I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight

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Anonymous wrote:why are people rioting?? America agrees this is terrible

Im a white conservative trump supporter, support cops, etc. Once I watched the video, I would tell anyone it's beyond disgusting

The black community is hurting themselves acting like this and rioting. Giving the media what it wants. Stop it!

"The black community" aren't the only people protesting...


True, but they’re the only ones looting.


Focusing on the looting = waving the confederate flag.

Did you get our your special tiki torches out on Memorial Day?


This is a weak statement.

The rioting and looting were a result of the reaction to this awful death.
They are hurting innocent business owners, destroying property, and causing the taxpayers of the city undue costs.

The police station and police cars that were damaged and destroyed? They'll be repaired and replaced - at the taxpayers expense.

Rioting and looting is just stupid and short sighted. Many were simply taking advantage of a bad situation. The people there who were protesting should speak out against these criminals.


The only criminals we really need to focus on right now are the killer cops.

Your continued focus on looting says a lot about you.



Really? Looting going on right now at the Target in Minneapolis.
When you come out to protest, and you start stealing stuff, you become a thief.
When you come out to protest, and you start burning stuff, you become an arsonist.
Thieves and arsonists are criminals.

The justice system will take care of the cops. Hopefully, the justice system will also take care of the criminals who are taking advantage of this situation.


Looting isn’t the issue here.
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Really?

- what about all the sick people who depended on the pharmacy for their life-saving medications?
- how about those who depended on the Target minute clinic?
- and now the Target employees there are unemployed. For what?

Those looters just victimized countless innocent people right there in their own community.

But you don’t think it’s an issue at all??!?


+1000 There are consequences for innocent people who did nothing wrong. There is absolutely nothing high and mighty about looting and rioting. It's out of control mob behavior.



In response to an out-of-control racist police force who MURDERED someone because of the color of their skin.



So in retaliation you get to steal a big screen t.v. from Target and torch a nearby apartment complex? Explain to me how this rights any wrongs? Answer: it doesn't. Two wrongs do not make a right.


Omg. Fock the TVs. Fock the windows. Fock Target. Those.do.not.matter.

I’m disgusted by the vile racist scum that are more worried about a TV than a man who lost his life because of the color of his skin.

WTF is wrong with you? Were your parents racist?



So now, people who oppose the looting and destruction of property are “vile racist scum?” “Fock” you!


Yes, “fock” you for caring more about a TV than a man’s life.


Just stop.
It is not about an f'ing TV. They are burning the city. Throwing Molotov cocktails into random cars just to watch them burn. Looting business and destroying everyone that's left.









How in the hell does this help in the killing of a black man??????


Anyone?


At least they're wearing masks

But they are not social distancing.
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Anonymous wrote:why are people rioting?? America agrees this is terrible

Im a white conservative trump supporter, support cops, etc. Once I watched the video, I would tell anyone it's beyond disgusting

The black community is hurting themselves acting like this and rioting. Giving the media what it wants. Stop it!

"The black community" aren't the only people protesting...


True, but they’re the only ones looting.


Focusing on the looting = waving the confederate flag.

Did you get our your special tiki torches out on Memorial Day?


This is a weak statement.

The rioting and looting were a result of the reaction to this awful death.
They are hurting innocent business owners, destroying property, and causing the taxpayers of the city undue costs.

The police station and police cars that were damaged and destroyed? They'll be repaired and replaced - at the taxpayers expense.

Rioting and looting is just stupid and short sighted. Many were simply taking advantage of a bad situation. The people there who were protesting should speak out against these criminals.


The only criminals we really need to focus on right now are the killer cops.

Your continued focus on looting says a lot about you.



Really? Looting going on right now at the Target in Minneapolis.
When you come out to protest, and you start stealing stuff, you become a thief.
When you come out to protest, and you start burning stuff, you become an arsonist.
Thieves and arsonists are criminals.

The justice system will take care of the cops. Hopefully, the justice system will also take care of the criminals who are taking advantage of this situation.


Looting isn’t the issue here.
. . .


Really?

- what about all the sick people who depended on the pharmacy for their life-saving medications?
- how about those who depended on the Target minute clinic?
- and now the Target employees there are unemployed. For what?

Those looters just victimized countless innocent people right there in their own community.

But you don’t think it’s an issue at all??!?


Black lives matter more than Target stores. It's pretty simple. And I live in South Minneapolis. I've gone to that Target many times. We have hundreds more and tons of Minute Clinics. This is Minneapolis, HQ of Target - we aren't suffering for retail options. Get a sense of perspective.
We only had one George Floyd, and we can't bring him back.

You are a simpering idiot. A lot of independent businesses were also destroyed. A lot of those people probably had all of their life savings poured into those businesses and now they are left with nothing because a bunch of poser knuckleheads who probably didn’t even know the dead guy’s name used this tragedy as an excuse to loot and steal. Would you say to these business owners that the looting doesn’t matter? Or that they deserved it? What if that was your business?


The only idiot is the one who thinks business losses are a bigger issue than police brutality.

It’s not an either or situation, dummy. You can be against both. And opposing the looting and arson which could easily have killed numerous other people and in fact DID result in another man’s death does not mean that one is valuing property over human life. But you seem stubborn and lacking in critical thinking skills so it is really no wonder that you can’t comprehend this.


Go crawl in a hole and stop antagonizing people here. We see your racism for what it is.

Yeah, everyone who opposes theft and arson is now a racist according to you. What a nutjob!


No. Continuing to push looting as THE big issue here is the sign of a racist. How many posts have you made about the arson vs. the injustice of the police not being arrested yet?



The focus definitely needs to go back to the injustice tbat was done by the police. The problem is that it's hard for people to support the actions of some of the rioters now that they started looting. If they are serious about getting support from these rallies, then they really need to stop breaking things and looting stores. I get that these may have insurance but a lot of people will become conflicted now because supporting the rally would seem to support these actions as well. I understand that not everyone is doing it, but the small percentage of people who do are ruining it for everyone. Maybe they just went TV here in the first place to take advantage of the situation, idk, and no, just because they are angry doesn't mean they should go around trashing and looting. They point of the rally should be to draw attention to the injustices.


You should really study political violence. They aren't doing this because they're angry. They are doing this to gain leverage in their negotiation with the state- it's quid pro quo. Don't allow cops to kill black people and we won't burn your city to the ground. It's a reasonable deal, Minneapolis should take it.

What about the thousands of innocent people, most of whom are black, who will be negatively affected by the decision of a few to destroy the neighborhood? Are they just collateral damage? You don’t seem to have any concern for them. Very strange worldview you have.


My worldview comes from a career of studying terrorism, and yes it is strange because we like to say that these things are ineffective. However, political violence that doesn't kill civilians is incredibly effective at garnering sympathy. So you can say it isn't rational, and it might make you more comfortable to think that the world doesn't reward such behavior, but it does. Their actions are not only rational but politically astute.
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Anonymous wrote:Local Twin Citian here - reports are that many of the looters aren't from here. And the missing story is the very large peaceful protests going on.


Why aren't the cops doing anything to curb the massive destruction and violence?
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Anonymous wrote:why are people rioting?? America agrees this is terrible

Im a white conservative trump supporter, support cops, etc. Once I watched the video, I would tell anyone it's beyond disgusting

The black community is hurting themselves acting like this and rioting. Giving the media what it wants. Stop it!

"The black community" aren't the only people protesting...


True, but they’re the only ones looting.


Focusing on the looting = waving the confederate flag.

Did you get our your special tiki torches out on Memorial Day?


This is a weak statement.

The rioting and looting were a result of the reaction to this awful death.
They are hurting innocent business owners, destroying property, and causing the taxpayers of the city undue costs.

The police station and police cars that were damaged and destroyed? They'll be repaired and replaced - at the taxpayers expense.

Rioting and looting is just stupid and short sighted. Many were simply taking advantage of a bad situation. The people there who were protesting should speak out against these criminals.


The only criminals we really need to focus on right now are the killer cops.

Your continued focus on looting says a lot about you.



Really? Looting going on right now at the Target in Minneapolis.
When you come out to protest, and you start stealing stuff, you become a thief.
When you come out to protest, and you start burning stuff, you become an arsonist.
Thieves and arsonists are criminals.

The justice system will take care of the cops. Hopefully, the justice system will also take care of the criminals who are taking advantage of this situation.


Looting isn’t the issue here.
. . .


Really?

- what about all the sick people who depended on the pharmacy for their life-saving medications?
- how about those who depended on the Target minute clinic?
- and now the Target employees there are unemployed. For what?

Those looters just victimized countless innocent people right there in their own community.

But you don’t think it’s an issue at all??!?


Black lives matter more than Target stores. It's pretty simple. And I live in South Minneapolis. I've gone to that Target many times. We have hundreds more and tons of Minute Clinics. This is Minneapolis, HQ of Target - we aren't suffering for retail options. Get a sense of perspective.
We only had one George Floyd, and we can't bring him back.

You are a simpering idiot. A lot of independent businesses were also destroyed. A lot of those people probably had all of their life savings poured into those businesses and now they are left with nothing because a bunch of poser knuckleheads who probably didn’t even know the dead guy’s name used this tragedy as an excuse to loot and steal. Would you say to these business owners that the looting doesn’t matter? Or that they deserved it? What if that was your business?


The only idiot is the one who thinks business losses are a bigger issue than police brutality.

It’s not an either or situation, dummy. You can be against both. And opposing the looting and arson which could easily have killed numerous other people and in fact DID result in another man’s death does not mean that one is valuing property over human life. But you seem stubborn and lacking in critical thinking skills so it is really no wonder that you can’t comprehend this.


Go crawl in a hole and stop antagonizing people here. We see your racism for what it is.

Yeah, everyone who opposes theft and arson is now a racist according to you. What a nutjob!


No. Continuing to push looting as THE big issue here is the sign of a racist. How many posts have you made about the arson vs. the injustice of the police not being arrested yet?



The focus definitely needs to go back to the injustice tbat was done by the police. The problem is that it's hard for people to support the actions of some of the rioters now that they started looting. If they are serious about getting support from these rallies, then they really need to stop breaking things and looting stores. I get that these may have insurance but a lot of people will become conflicted now because supporting the rally would seem to support these actions as well. I understand that not everyone is doing it, but the small percentage of people who do are ruining it for everyone. Maybe they just went TV here in the first place to take advantage of the situation, idk, and no, just because they are angry doesn't mean they should go around trashing and looting. They point of the rally should be to draw attention to the injustices.


You should really study political violence. They aren't doing this because they're angry. They are doing this to gain leverage in their negotiation with the state- it's quid pro quo. Don't allow cops to kill black people and we won't burn your city to the ground. It's a reasonable deal, Minneapolis should take it.

What about the thousands of innocent people, most of whom are black, who will be negatively affected by the decision of a few to destroy the neighborhood? Are they just collateral damage? You don’t seem to have any concern for them. Very strange worldview you have.

Exactly.
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Anonymous wrote:why are people rioting?? America agrees this is terrible

Im a white conservative trump supporter, support cops, etc. Once I watched the video, I would tell anyone it's beyond disgusting

The black community is hurting themselves acting like this and rioting. Giving the media what it wants. Stop it!

"The black community" aren't the only people protesting...


True, but they’re the only ones looting.


Focusing on the looting = waving the confederate flag.

Did you get our your special tiki torches out on Memorial Day?


This is a weak statement.

The rioting and looting were a result of the reaction to this awful death.
They are hurting innocent business owners, destroying property, and causing the taxpayers of the city undue costs.

The police station and police cars that were damaged and destroyed? They'll be repaired and replaced - at the taxpayers expense.

Rioting and looting is just stupid and short sighted. Many were simply taking advantage of a bad situation. The people there who were protesting should speak out against these criminals.


The only criminals we really need to focus on right now are the killer cops.

Your continued focus on looting says a lot about you.



Really? Looting going on right now at the Target in Minneapolis.
When you come out to protest, and you start stealing stuff, you become a thief.
When you come out to protest, and you start burning stuff, you become an arsonist.
Thieves and arsonists are criminals.

The justice system will take care of the cops. Hopefully, the justice system will also take care of the criminals who are taking advantage of this situation.


Looting isn’t the issue here.
. . .


Really?

- what about all the sick people who depended on the pharmacy for their life-saving medications?
- how about those who depended on the Target minute clinic?
- and now the Target employees there are unemployed. For what?

Those looters just victimized countless innocent people right there in their own community.

But you don’t think it’s an issue at all??!?


Black lives matter more than Target stores. It's pretty simple. And I live in South Minneapolis. I've gone to that Target many times. We have hundreds more and tons of Minute Clinics. This is Minneapolis, HQ of Target - we aren't suffering for retail options. Get a sense of perspective.
We only had one George Floyd, and we can't bring him back.

You are a simpering idiot. A lot of independent businesses were also destroyed. A lot of those people probably had all of their life savings poured into those businesses and now they are left with nothing because a bunch of poser knuckleheads who probably didn’t even know the dead guy’s name used this tragedy as an excuse to loot and steal. Would you say to these business owners that the looting doesn’t matter? Or that they deserved it? What if that was your business?


The only idiot is the one who thinks business losses are a bigger issue than police brutality.

It’s not an either or situation, dummy. You can be against both. And opposing the looting and arson which could easily have killed numerous other people and in fact DID result in another man’s death does not mean that one is valuing property over human life. But you seem stubborn and lacking in critical thinking skills so it is really no wonder that you can’t comprehend this.


Go crawl in a hole and stop antagonizing people here. We see your racism for what it is.

Yeah, everyone who opposes theft and arson is now a racist according to you. What a nutjob!


No. Continuing to push looting as THE big issue here is the sign of a racist. How many posts have you made about the arson vs. the injustice of the police not being arrested yet?



The focus definitely needs to go back to the injustice tbat was done by the police. The problem is that it's hard for people to support the actions of some of the rioters now that they started looting. If they are serious about getting support from these rallies, then they really need to stop breaking things and looting stores. I get that these may have insurance but a lot of people will become conflicted now because supporting the rally would seem to support these actions as well. I understand that not everyone is doing it, but the small percentage of people who do are ruining it for everyone. Maybe they just went TV here in the first place to take advantage of the situation, idk, and no, just because they are angry doesn't mean they should go around trashing and looting. They point of the rally should be to draw attention to the injustices.


You should really study political violence. They aren't doing this because they're angry. They are doing this to gain leverage in their negotiation with the state- it's quid pro quo. Don't allow cops to kill black people and we won't burn your city to the ground. It's a reasonable deal, Minneapolis should take it.

What about the thousands of innocent people, most of whom are black, who will be negatively affected by the decision of a few to destroy the neighborhood? Are they just collateral damage? You don’t seem to have any concern for them. Very strange worldview you have.


My worldview comes from a career of studying terrorism, and yes it is strange because we like to say that these things are ineffective. However, political violence that doesn't kill civilians is incredibly effective at garnering sympathy. So you can say it isn't rational, and it might make you more comfortable to think that the world doesn't reward such behavior, but it does. Their actions are not only rational but politically astute.

But a civilian WAS killed in this situation and there could have been a lot more. This is too dangerous of a proposition to encourage or condone. It can have endless unintended consequences.
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Yes, and while that is sad, one accidental death is not likely to make them take a huge reputational hit. They are still net positive by rioting. I think it's sad that it's going on, but most people observing the situation are going to side with the protestors- fires and stolen liquor and all- because of the incredible savagery of the police in the video. We are literally a nation founded on the idea that the State's power should be restrained. This issue will probably quickly be combined with sentiment that the covid response was an overreach-then bam! Bipartisan support. Really, MN should fold. They should fold quickly and deeply because they are 100% screwed.
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Anonymous wrote:But destroying businesses that have food, clothing and other essential items for these communities — perhaps never to be rebuilt — makes no sense. Why punish the very communities who are subject to police brutality?


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Why aren't cops doing their job now?
Should they be fired if it's a waste of taxpayer money?
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Anonymous wrote:Yes, and while that is sad, one accidental death is not likely to make them take a huge reputational hit. They are still net positive by rioting. I think it's sad that it's going on, but most people observing the situation are going to side with the protestors- fires and stolen liquor and all- because of the incredible savagery of the police in the video. We are literally a nation founded on the idea that the State's power should be restrained. This issue will probably quickly be combined with sentiment that the covid response was an overreach-then bam! Bipartisan support. Really, MN should fold. They should fold quickly and deeply because they are 100% screwed.


You guys, please stop feeding this troll. I could have told you that she is a clueless academic who knows nothing about the real world, or more specifically, law enforcement. I highly doubt most black people are condoning the destruction of a city anyway. It format take many people to set fire, especially when the police are standing down.
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Why do they loot and set fires? Because it generates more interest than peaceful protests, and as such makes perfect sense.
For g's sake, nothing else seems to get people's attention to the fact that every black child has to have 'the lecture' from their parents, 'don't talk back, just do what the man says, no matter what they say or do to you just say yes ma'am, yes sir, try not to get them mad'. This country is so off the rails to not immediately arrest the guy who tortured and killed someone, there are any number of witnesses, and yet this man is walking around free, maybe booking a ticket to a safe haven. I'm so sick of these incidents and the stupidity of the cop culture that protects even the most brazen and sickening violence against black people just because someone gave them a badge to wear.
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Anonymous wrote:Local Twin Citian here - reports are that many of the looters aren't from here. And the missing story is the very large peaceful protests going on.


Why aren't the cops doing anything to curb the massive destruction and violence?


They are. I live two doors down from the St. Paul Police Chief. They are working hard to use non-violent methods to quell the destruction.
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Anonymous wrote:Yes, and while that is sad, one accidental death is not likely to make them take a huge reputational hit. They are still net positive by rioting. I think it's sad that it's going on, but most people observing the situation are going to side with the protestors- fires and stolen liquor and all- because of the incredible savagery of the police in the video. We are literally a nation founded on the idea that the State's power should be restrained. This issue will probably quickly be combined with sentiment that the covid response was an overreach-then bam! Bipartisan support. Really, MN should fold. They should fold quickly and deeply because they are 100% screwed.


You guys, please stop feeding this troll. I could have told you that she is a clueless academic who knows nothing about the real world, or more specifically, law enforcement. I highly doubt most black people are condoning the destruction of a city anyway. It format take many people to set fire, especially when the police are standing down.


Hi, I'm not an academic and used to work in law enforcement. Trolls say things to inflame people, which I'm obviously not doing. I'm arguing that the national view will be more sympathetic to the rioters than the government in this case. I mean, look at the Drudge Report right now. It's practically a love letter to the protesters. You might not want to hear these things, but contrary information is often the most valuable.
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I strongly suspect that undercover cops are involved in the vandalism, easy too since everyone is wearing masks.
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Anonymous wrote:Yes, and while that is sad, one accidental death is not likely to make them take a huge reputational hit. They are still net positive by rioting. I think it's sad that it's going on, but most people observing the situation are going to side with the protestors- fires and stolen liquor and all- because of the incredible savagery of the police in the video. We are literally a nation founded on the idea that the State's power should be restrained. This issue will probably quickly be combined with sentiment that the covid response was an overreach-then bam! Bipartisan support. Really, MN should fold. They should fold quickly and deeply because they are 100% screwed.


You guys, please stop feeding this troll. I could have told you that she is a clueless academic who knows nothing about the real world, or more specifically, law enforcement. I highly doubt most black people are condoning the destruction of a city anyway. It format take many people to set fire, especially when the police are standing down.


Hi, I'm not an academic and used to work in law enforcement. Trolls say things to inflame people, which I'm obviously not doing. I'm arguing that the national view will be more sympathetic to the rioters than the government in this case. I mean, look at the Drudge Report right now. It's practically a love letter to the protesters. You might not want to hear these things, but contrary information is often the most valuable.


Who is it sympathetic to? Because I can tell you it’s not for me or my family who thinks like me. We represent a large diverse age range. I think they degrade themselves to do that. What is Drudge Report? Is that some far left tv reporting? The news are not facts. People are too afraid to speak because of the backlash. The looti g always gets the message lost. Looting happens in hurricanes etc. they will now be looked at as thugs. Did Floyd actually use a fake bill? That’s all people will be asking.
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