I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I strongly suspect that undercover cops are involved in the vandalism, easy too since everyone is wearing masks.

Caught one.


The cops are also jamming signals so no one can livestream, and blocking EMTs from getting to people who have been hit by the rubber bullets.
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Anonymous wrote:Local Twin Citian here - reports are that many of the looters aren't from here. And the missing story is the very large peaceful protests going on.


Why aren't the cops doing anything to curb the massive destruction and violence?


They are. I live two doors down from the St. Paul Police Chief. They are working hard to use non-violent methods to quell the destruction.

What? Are they inept? Who told them to stand down?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I strongly suspect that undercover cops are involved in the vandalism, easy too since everyone is wearing masks.

Yeah, OK nutter. It was all “cops.”
Anonymous
I didn't say it was all cops. I said they were involved in the vandalism. Once the vandalism starts it becomes a free-for-all but don't believe for a second that it doesn't help the cops to demonize protesters.

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Anonymous wrote:I strongly suspect that undercover cops are involved in the vandalism, easy too since everyone is wearing masks.

Yeah, OK nutter. It was all “cops.”

There’s been a cop already identified as starting some of the violence last night.
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No. Continuing to push looting as THE big issue here is the sign of a racist. How many posts have you made about the arson vs. the injustice of the police not being arrested yet?



The focus definitely needs to go back to the injustice tbat was done by the police. The problem is that it's hard for people to support the actions of some of the rioters now that they started looting. If they are serious about getting support from these rallies, then they really need to stop breaking things and looting stores. I get that these may have insurance but a lot of people will become conflicted now because supporting the rally would seem to support these actions as well. I understand that not everyone is doing it, but the small percentage of people who do are ruining it for everyone. Maybe they just went TV here in the first place to take advantage of the situation, idk, and no, just because they are angry doesn't mean they should go around trashing and looting. They point of the rally should be to draw attention to the injustices.



Focus on the actual issue....the extensive racism and the dirty cops who think they are untouchable.


As I posted earlier:

The fact that these officers were being filmed by bystanders and still continued to engage in that conduct shows you everything about the culture of the Minneapolis Police Department,” said Michelle Gross, the president of Communities United Against Police Brutality. “They feel they’re immune to any kind of accountability. They feel they can get away with it.”

While politicians and activists in Minneapolis embrace the language of racial justice, some critics say they often fail to put those words into action.

There have been some hard-won police reforms, including a change to the use-of-force manual requiring that officers intervene when they see colleagues using excessive force.

One of the biggest challenges to reforming the department, analysts say, is the city’s powerful police union. It established its power in local politics in the 1970s, when Charles A. Stenvig, a former head of the Police Officers Federation of Minneapolis, served three terms as mayor on a “law and order” platform.

Lt. Bob Kroll, the head of the union, was accused in Chief Arradondo’s lawsuit of calling a black congressman who was Muslim a “terrorist” and of wearing a motorcycle jacket with a badge that said “white power.” Lieutenant Kroll did not respond to messages seeking comment.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/27/us/minneapolis-police.html


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I strongly suspect that undercover cops are involved in the vandalism, easy too since everyone is wearing masks.

Yeah, OK nutter. It was all “cops.”

There’s been a cop already identified as starting some of the violence last night.


Our AG Keith Ellison is already looking into this. https://twitter.com/keithellison/status/1266127105621983238
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^^ because they can. So far they have. George Floyd was arrested much faster for a much smaller, non-violent crime. Justice is a joke. No lives matter.
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Of course they are.

Lock them up. And fry the MFers.
Anonymous
Turns out the cop who knelt on George Floyd's neck and killed him was his co-worker. If they had any kind of negative interactions previously this is pre-meditated murder.

(Sorry if this was posted already but with the huge quote threads their have been 10 pages at least since 10PM EST)

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To the best of their abilities, the police chief, mayor, and district attorney should:
Charge and hold all of the officers involved ASAP - tomorrow AM
Break up the police union (or force out the current bigot in charge)
Stop teargassing people
Hold a candlelight vigil
Hold townhall meetings to let people express themselves
Support programs to rebuild community and trust
Push tons of de-escalation training and ongoing programs
Push tons of racial awareness training and ongoing programs

I’m sure there are better ideas out there. These are just what came to mind right now.


These are great ideas. Sadly, too late now.
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NP here, and this is for the PP and any other cop or cop-adjacent lurker who is reading this thread. I do have sympathy for the non-racist cops. It must sting to be judged by the racist ones' behavior. But just "not being racist yourself" and "not having killed a Black person" is not the end of your obligation here. The bar is higher than that. Racism is systemic everywhere including in law enforcement, and clearly -- since we've been dealing with viral murders of Black men since Emmett Till -- public awareness isn't going to stop it. You want to be an actual good cop?

- Advocate for radical transparency. You know why we don't trust the police? Because you all close ranks around your "bad apples" 99% of the time. Stop it. Conduct your internal investigations transparently. Be open about what's going on. Maybe some sunlight will stop you from moving the cops who have a "tendency to use force too much with certain populations" to desk jobs or different precincts so they can keep their pensions.

- Advocate for systemic overhauls to root out the racism in your department. There is racism in your department. It's everywhere. Let people report it knowing they'll be supported by their higher ups. Create a culture where combating racism is taken seriously as a police value, and not as "a PC thing we have to do to appease the SJWs." Support real consequences for racism, even at the early stages, so it doesn't take root, fester and escalate.

- Advocate for the de-escalation of police generally. WTH are you all doing with discarded SWAT equipment and TANKS?! This isn't Call of Duty. You aren't military. Become a part of the population you are sworn to serve and protect. Study the effects of police de-escalation generally. Remember, your goal is not to "win" every encounter with your "authority." Your goal is to keep people safe. Keep your ego out of it, and for god's sake, send back the armored trucks.

There are so many more things you can actually do to address the problem. And if you do, I'm willing to bet that people will stop judging all cops by the ones who murder Black people. Stop patting yourself on the back for not being one of them, and redirect your energy to things that will make a difference.


More good ideas that it's too late for Minneapolis to implement.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I strongly suspect that undercover cops are involved in the vandalism, easy too since everyone is wearing masks.

Yeah, OK nutter. It was all “cops.”

There’s been a cop already identified as starting some of the violence last night.


You got a source or just talking out of your ass? You sound unhinged.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I strongly suspect that undercover cops are involved in the vandalism, easy too since everyone is wearing masks.

Yeah, OK nutter. It was all “cops.”

There’s been a cop already identified as starting some of the violence last night.


You got a source or just talking out of your ass? You sound unhinged.


There are sources up thread. I’m not the person you quoted.
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