Jogger Chased and Shot

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Jury selection for the Georgia case begins today.

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Finally. One step closer, HOPEFULLY, to justice.

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I watched various video on the internet. He was in someone else's home that was already framed in. They didn't appear to block him in as reported, he could have easily left the situation yet he punched and tried to get the shot gun. There are multiples problems with this case.

I have no idea what video you watched that showed him NOT being blocked in, and with the opportnity to "leave the situation." That's definitely not what I saw in the video.

However, I do wish they'd stop referring to him as "doing nothing more than jogging." He was not a runner/jogger. His murder has aboslutely nothing to do with running.

He could have run left or right, or further down the road. Instead he ran around the truck, and violently punched him over and over while grabbing the shot gun. The guy that video taped it just got there as it happened. He shouldn't be in jail. What if Arbery did get the gun?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwie1dia57jzAhVdLDQIHTNBAuYQtwJ6BAgCEAM&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DwLN4PAJEYc8&usg=AOvVaw3rXlELZxdfjWaJUguSkqQp

Arbery had been chased down by men in a truck with a gun and was fighting for his life. That's why he punched and grabbed the gun. He knew he was trapped and couldn't out run a bullet by funning "left or right" (where? Into people's yards? He still wouldn't have been able to out run a bullet.) It's very reasonable to see that he felt his only chance was to attempt to disarm them.

I don't know enough about the guy who taped from behind and exactly what his charges are to speak to whether or not he should be in jail.

I thought the guy who taped it also participated in chasing him with his truck and actually hit him with his truck. He was an active participant in his murder.

From all the video it looked like he barely drove up when the shooting happened. Except for taping it I didn't see where he was involved. Maybe there's better video out there I didn't see.

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I watched various video on the internet. He was in someone else's home that was already framed in. They didn't appear to block him in as reported, he could have easily left the situation yet he punched and tried to get the shot gun. There are multiples problems with this case.

I have no idea what video you watched that showed him NOT being blocked in, and with the opportnity to "leave the situation." That's definitely not what I saw in the video.

However, I do wish they'd stop referring to him as "doing nothing more than jogging." He was not a runner/jogger. His murder has aboslutely nothing to do with running.

He could have run left or right, or further down the road. Instead he ran around the truck, and violently punched him over and over while grabbing the shot gun. The guy that video taped it just got there as it happened. He shouldn't be in jail. What if Arbery did get the gun?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwie1dia57jzAhVdLDQIHTNBAuYQtwJ6BAgCEAM&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DwLN4PAJEYc8&usg=AOvVaw3rXlELZxdfjWaJUguSkqQp

Arbery had been chased down by men in a truck with a gun and was fighting for his life. That's why he punched and grabbed the gun. He knew he was trapped and couldn't out run a bullet by funning "left or right" (where? Into people's yards? He still wouldn't have been able to out run a bullet.) It's very reasonable to see that he felt his only chance was to attempt to disarm them.

I don't know enough about the guy who taped from behind and exactly what his charges are to speak to whether or not he should be in jail.

I thought the guy who taped it also participated in chasing him with his truck and actually hit him with his truck. He was an active participant in his murder.

From all the video it looked like he barely drove up when the shooting happened. Except for taping it I didn't see where he was involved. Maybe there's better video out there I didn't see.

He basically blocked his exit

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Anonymous wrote:Finally. One step closer, HOPEFULLY, to justice.

Who really knows given all the media spin and opinion. I would say all the idiots in this scenario have paid the price.
Poor decisions in life sure can mess one up!

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Could have stopped and put hand in air.

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Anonymous wrote:Could have stopped and put hand in air.

What?! Why?

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Anonymous wrote:Finally. One step closer, HOPEFULLY, to justice.

Who really knows given all the media spin and opinion. I would say all the idiots in this scenario have paid the price.
Poor decisions in life sure can mess one up!

Exactly.

There are no innocent parties here. Literally everyone involved is a bad guy of some degree. All made bad decisions. Any one of them doing something different would’ve stopped the whole thing. But none of them did.

[Anonymous]

Curious people enter construction sites all the time. I’ve done so as a white woman. At no point did I consider it trespassing, although it was, and at no point would I have been killed.

It was murder.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Finally. One step closer, HOPEFULLY, to justice.

Who really knows given all the media spin and opinion. I would say all the idiots in this scenario have paid the price.
Poor decisions in life sure can mess one up!

Exactly.

There are no innocent parties here. Literally everyone involved is a bad guy of some degree. All made bad decisions. Any one of them doing something different would’ve stopped the whole thing. But none of them did.

yep. A. was on probation I read for stealing a tv. It was apparent he was casing out that place, so wasn't his first time. I was amazed he chose to run around the truck to punch the guy in the face. Then try to get the shot gun. If he had the shot gun it would be the other guy who was killed. Travis stated he told him to stop when he saw him advancing toward the gun.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Finally. One step closer, HOPEFULLY, to justice.

Who really knows given all the media spin and opinion. I would say all the idiots in this scenario have paid the price.
Poor decisions in life sure can mess one up!

Exactly.

There are no innocent parties here. Literally everyone involved is a bad guy of some degree. All made bad decisions. Any one of them doing something different would’ve stopped the whole thing. But none of them did.

yep. A. was on probation I read for stealing a tv. It was apparent he was casing out that place, so wasn't his first time. I was amazed he chose to run around the truck to punch the guy in the face. Then try to get the shot gun. If he had the shot gun it would be the other guy who was killed. Travis stated he told him to stop when he saw him advancing toward the gun.

Uh, the jogger was acting in self-defense. Men in cars with multiple guns were trying to hunt him down.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Finally. One step closer, HOPEFULLY, to justice.

Who really knows given all the media spin and opinion. I would say all the idiots in this scenario have paid the price.
Poor decisions in life sure can mess one up!

Exactly.

There are no innocent parties here. Literally everyone involved is a bad guy of some degree. All made bad decisions. Any one of them doing something different would’ve stopped the whole thing. But none of them did.

yep. A. was on probation I read for stealing a tv. It was apparent he was casing out that place, so wasn't his first time. I was amazed he chose to run around the truck to punch the guy in the face. Then try to get the shot gun. If he had the shot gun it would be the other guy who was killed. Travis stated he told him to stop when he saw him advancing toward the gun.

Uh, the jogger was acting in self-defense. Men in cars with multiple guns were trying to hunt him down.

He was not jogging!!! “Man acting in self defense” sure. But he was not out on a jog. No one wears long baggy khaki shorts and a white cotton t shirt to go for a run—especially not someone with significant athletic experience like AA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:[
I watched various video on the internet. He was in someone else's home that was already framed in. They didn't appear to block him in as reported, he could have easily left the situation yet he punched and tried to get the shot gun. There are multiples problems with this case.

I have no idea what video you watched that showed him NOT being blocked in, and with the opportnity to "leave the situation." That's definitely not what I saw in the video.

However, I do wish they'd stop referring to him as "doing nothing more than jogging." He was not a runner/jogger. His murder has aboslutely nothing to do with running.

He could have run left or right, or further down the road. Instead he ran around the truck, and violently punched him over and over while grabbing the shot gun. The guy that video taped it just got there as it happened. He shouldn't be in jail. What if Arbery did get the gun?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwie1dia57jzAhVdLDQIHTNBAuYQtwJ6BAgCEAM&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DwLN4PAJEYc8&usg=AOvVaw3rXlELZxdfjWaJUguSkqQp

Arbery had been chased down by men in a truck with a gun and was fighting for his life. That's why he punched and grabbed the gun. He knew he was trapped and couldn't out run a bullet by funning "left or right" (where? Into people's yards? He still wouldn't have been able to out run a bullet.) It's very reasonable to see that he felt his only chance was to attempt to disarm them.

I don't know enough about the guy who taped from behind and exactly what his charges are to speak to whether or not he should be in jail.

I'm the pp that started my post "Arbery had been chased down by men..."

I'm watching the video more carefully now and I'm not understanding why you are saying "he could ahve run left or right or further down the road.
He ran up and their truck was blocking the road right down the middle. The man with the gun is standing to the left of the truck. AA DID run to pass the truck on the right side, so it seems he was going to try to run past them. Then you hear the other man (not AA) yell something, you can see AA's feet run towards him, and then the gun is shot.
Again, I don't understand why you say that he could have run in a different direction--it appears he tried to do that as much as possible--if he was looking for a physical confrontation he would have charged towards the man with the gun on the left side of the truck. Instead he chose to go on the opposite side of the truck, as far as possible from the man with the gun while still trying to just get past them.

This guy has a realistic view on what happened and why. Exactly what I saw as well from the videos. Read the comments as well-

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiimKmg8brzAhXGs54KHVCbDjUQFnoECAUQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DWljQd53vnOk&usg=AOvVaw3ZMcF85LIjpico_DsK3CjJ

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Finally. One step closer, HOPEFULLY, to justice.

Who really knows given all the media spin and opinion. I would say all the idiots in this scenario have paid the price.
Poor decisions in life sure can mess one up!

Exactly.

There are no innocent parties here. Literally everyone involved is a bad guy of some degree. All made bad decisions. Any one of them doing something different would’ve stopped the whole thing. But none of them did.

Sure. If Abrery had simply known his place, he might be alive!

Consider that the local DA is now facing charges for the coverup of this incident. But yes, everyone was equally bad.

I highly doubt you'd say that if it was your kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Finally. One step closer, HOPEFULLY, to justice.

Who really knows given all the media spin and opinion. I would say all the idiots in this scenario have paid the price.
Poor decisions in life sure can mess one up!

Exactly.

There are no innocent parties here. Literally everyone involved is a bad guy of some degree. All made bad decisions. Any one of them doing something different would’ve stopped the whole thing. But none of them did.

yep. A. was on probation I read for stealing a tv. It was apparent he was casing out that place, so wasn't his first time. I was amazed he chose to run around the truck to punch the guy in the face. Then try to get the shot gun. If he had the shot gun it would be the other guy who was killed. Travis stated he told him to stop when he saw him advancing toward the gun.

Look, here's the deal - the law authorizes citizens to use deadly force to protect themselves from death or serious bodily harm. Some states allow it for protecting your home (the castle doctrine) or the (IMO misguided) stand your ground. None of the above apply in this case. At all. Even if the defendant was on probation for stealing a TV.

You can't chase someone down in a truck with guns brandished and then fire the gun when the person tries to get away and claim self-defense. It may still work in Georgia and because we are a sick and messed up society, but this was a murder by any legal definition.