Making time for kids? Study says quality trumps quantity

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Anonymous wrote:My aunt was a SAHM and 3 of her 5 kids have criminal records. My mother also stayed home and me and all of my siblings turned out well, no records, college educated, etc. Obviously it takes more than just having a SAHM for a child to turn out right.

Well...obviously. But whoever seriously argues that being in daycare at 6 moths old for 8 hours a day (or even younger, or even longer...) is better for a child than being home with Mom or Dad is just delusional. Sure...some don't think they have any other option than to go back to work with their baby barely being born and that's what people argue here. You do NOT have to go back to work when your child is 3 months old. If you choose to, fine. But stop justifying your choice with made up reasoning. We all know you could have stayed home but chose not to.

How wonderful for you that you are so knowledgeable about the financial situation of all working parents. Of course we can all take off as much time as we want! Why didn't I know that? Thank you for enlightening me!

Putting my student loans in forebearance (while they continue to accrue interest) and giving up the awesome healthcare that my job provides sounds like a great option for my family.

My 22 year old cousin without any real work experience who got knocked up by a married man is going to be moving back in with her parents. She'll be able to spend as much time as she wants taking care of her infant. I guess that would be a preferable situation than having a dual income family with job stability, flexible hours, and parents with graduate defrees.

Oh PP, what would I have ever done without you to tell me what I can and cannot do!

Work from home if you need the money...I know you hadn't thought of that so you're welcome.

I work from home, and I know you hadn't thought of this so you're welcome in advance - most employers require that you show you have childcare if you work from home. Working from home requires actual working, not subsidized, extended maternity leave. It's working. I had to sign a contract that shows that my child is taken care of by someone else during work hours. I know the feds do this too. So your flip solution means nothing.

But your child would be so much better off being plopped in front of the TV while you work rather than spending time with an engaged childcare provider doing language activites, crafts, etc. Children must be with their mothers (not even fathers count according to some PPs) ALL THE TIME during the FORMATIVE years or else you are having someone else raise them. There are no other options that count.

Don't forget that it is also better to spend their days in the carseat, strapped into a gross Target cart, staring glassy-eyed at Mommy drinking her Starbucks etc than engaged with an experienced childcare provider who's an expert in development of kids that age.

Again - hilarious. Why is it that I see plenty of "glassy-eyed" babies and toddlers strapped into their Target (or Wal-Mart) seats while accompanied by their non-English speaking nannies, who are usually on the phone while aimlessly walking the aisles? Why is it that most childcare providers aren't "experts in development of kids," but rather extremely poorly paid, immigrant women with little to no English language skills? Do you really think your child is somehow being stimulated in these situations?

Ahh, the racist bitch again? My kids not with a nanny, btw. High quality childcare centers absolutely do the things pp described. Or do you believe classes are pointless too?

How is pointing out that the vast majority of childcare providers don't speak English as their first language in any way "racist"? You're so ridiculous it's painful.

You're despicable.
- new poster

Over dramatic much? And yet, you still haven't even answered the question: how does plainly speaking the obvious (and the truth), "racist"? Answer: it doesn't. PP is exactly right.

Stop! Please stop. You're being terrible and, I agree, racist and xenophobic.
- SAHM

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if any of the posters so far have taken a step back, read their own posts and went "Oh wow...that person wrote something I thought was horrible - and then all I did was go back and write the same kind of judgmental, nasty, bitchy, name-calling stuff..."

Don't get mad just cause we tell it like it is,
If you really think you're not doing your infant a disservice,
Well keep taking them to daycare,
What will be will be

Interesting that you saw yourself in that post.

What I have ZERO problem with is someone saying they could never personally work and put their child in a daycare because of their own ideas or beliefs or values. No problem. What I have a TON of problem with is that same person saying that I have harmed my kid by doing so. You are absolutely entitled to your beliefs and values. You are not entitled to tell me or anyone else that because we don't share those beliefs or values or have financial constraints you don't face or are a single parent, etc. that we have harmed our children. And no, you are not entitled to an opinion when it involves children other than your own.

Plus, learn now to punctuate properly.

Actually I am entitled to an opinion about just about anything in the entire universe. You have your opinions about this as well. I am also entitled to voice my opinion whenever and where ever I want. Like in this thread. Of course if I say young kids should be with their parents working Moms don't like to hear that...that doesn't mean my opinion is wrong. It just means those Moms have a different opinion.

You are not entitled to have an opinion about me. Period. You don't know me. So if you want to say that you're entitled to an uneducated opinion based purely on ignorance, well, OK, I'll have to give that to you. I don't have an opinion about you other than the fact that you present yourself as entirely ignorant, as evidenced by the way you write and fail to punctuate. That's based on evidence.

And another poster quick to throw a random insult based on usage of English language...yes, English isn't my first language. I am doing VERY well for that. And I have an educated opinion about you now, based on the fact that you judge me without knowing me just as you claimed I did in my post...see how that goes? I guess you are entitled to an "uneducated opinion based purely on ignorance" as well, hm?

Keep going. Now you're just entertaining us.

Seriously, too damn funny. Grammar and punctuation are objective facts, not opinion. I don't have an "opinion" on the excessive use of commas and failure to use periods or line breaks. Those are rules that are easily followed. If you want to be taken seriously, learn them.

Another objective fact? Most childcare providers are not native English speakers. If you want to be taken seriously, admit the truth. It's a nice distraction for you ladies to pounce on someone based on his/her grammar and punctuation, but that's really all it is: a silly diversion to try and change the subject.

I haven't chimed in on that aspect of daycare. You must have me confused with someone else. You're arguing with numerous people. Still having fun?

Again - you are not speaking to the person you think you're speaking to. Sorry this is proving difficult for you to follow, but you are also "arguing with numerous people".

When you quote a thread, then respond to the person directly above your post and say "you", 99.99% of the time you should be referring to the immediate PP. Let's keep up.

This is so damn confusing!

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Anonymous wrote:My aunt was a SAHM and 3 of her 5 kids have criminal records. My mother also stayed home and me and all of my siblings turned out well, no records, college educated, etc. Obviously it takes more than just having a SAHM for a child to turn out right.

Well...obviously. But whoever seriously argues that being in daycare at 6 moths old for 8 hours a day (or even younger, or even longer...) is better for a child than being home with Mom or Dad is just delusional. Sure...some don't think they have any other option than to go back to work with their baby barely being born and that's what people argue here. You do NOT have to go back to work when your child is 3 months old. If you choose to, fine. But stop justifying your choice with made up reasoning. We all know you could have stayed home but chose not to.

How wonderful for you that you are so knowledgeable about the financial situation of all working parents. Of course we can all take off as much time as we want! Why didn't I know that? Thank you for enlightening me!

Putting my student loans in forebearance (while they continue to accrue interest) and giving up the awesome healthcare that my job provides sounds like a great option for my family.

My 22 year old cousin without any real work experience who got knocked up by a married man is going to be moving back in with her parents. She'll be able to spend as much time as she wants taking care of her infant. I guess that would be a preferable situation than having a dual income family with job stability, flexible hours, and parents with graduate defrees.

Oh PP, what would I have ever done without you to tell me what I can and cannot do!

Work from home if you need the money...I know you hadn't thought of that so you're welcome.

I work from home, and I know you hadn't thought of this so you're welcome in advance - most employers require that you show you have childcare if you work from home. Working from home requires actual working, not subsidized, extended maternity leave. It's working. I had to sign a contract that shows that my child is taken care of by someone else during work hours. I know the feds do this too. So your flip solution means nothing.

But your child would be so much better off being plopped in front of the TV while you work rather than spending time with an engaged childcare provider doing language activites, crafts, etc. Children must be with their mothers (not even fathers count according to some PPs) ALL THE TIME during the FORMATIVE years or else you are having someone else raise them. There are no other options that count.

Don't forget that it is also better to spend their days in the carseat, strapped into a gross Target cart, staring glassy-eyed at Mommy drinking her Starbucks etc than engaged with an experienced childcare provider who's an expert in development of kids that age.

Again - hilarious. Why is it that I see plenty of "glassy-eyed" babies and toddlers strapped into their Target (or Wal-Mart) seats while accompanied by their non-English speaking nannies, who are usually on the phone while aimlessly walking the aisles? Why is it that most childcare providers aren't "experts in development of kids," but rather extremely poorly paid, immigrant women with little to no English language skills? Do you really think your child is somehow being stimulated in these situations?

Ahh, the racist bitch again? My kids not with a nanny, btw. High quality childcare centers absolutely do the things pp described. Or do you believe classes are pointless too?

How is pointing out that the vast majority of childcare providers don't speak English as their first language in any way "racist"? You're so ridiculous it's painful.

You're despicable.
- new poster

Over dramatic much? And yet, you still haven't even answered the question: how does plainly speaking the obvious (and the truth), "racist"? Answer: it doesn't. PP is exactly right.

Stop! Please stop. You're being terrible and, I agree, racist and xenophobic.
- SAHM

Curious: if your childcare provider wasn't able to communicate with your child in his/her native language, would this be ok with you?

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Anonymous wrote:My aunt was a SAHM and 3 of her 5 kids have criminal records. My mother also stayed home and me and all of my siblings turned out well, no records, college educated, etc. Obviously it takes more than just having a SAHM for a child to turn out right.

Well...obviously. But whoever seriously argues that being in daycare at 6 moths old for 8 hours a day (or even younger, or even longer...) is better for a child than being home with Mom or Dad is just delusional. Sure...some don't think they have any other option than to go back to work with their baby barely being born and that's what people argue here. You do NOT have to go back to work when your child is 3 months old. If you choose to, fine. But stop justifying your choice with made up reasoning. We all know you could have stayed home but chose not to.

How wonderful for you that you are so knowledgeable about the financial situation of all working parents. Of course we can all take off as much time as we want! Why didn't I know that? Thank you for enlightening me!

Putting my student loans in forebearance (while they continue to accrue interest) and giving up the awesome healthcare that my job provides sounds like a great option for my family.

My 22 year old cousin without any real work experience who got knocked up by a married man is going to be moving back in with her parents. She'll be able to spend as much time as she wants taking care of her infant. I guess that would be a preferable situation than having a dual income family with job stability, flexible hours, and parents with graduate defrees.

Oh PP, what would I have ever done without you to tell me what I can and cannot do!

Work from home if you need the money...I know you hadn't thought of that so you're welcome.

I work from home, and I know you hadn't thought of this so you're welcome in advance - most employers require that you show you have childcare if you work from home. Working from home requires actual working, not subsidized, extended maternity leave. It's working. I had to sign a contract that shows that my child is taken care of by someone else during work hours. I know the feds do this too. So your flip solution means nothing.

But your child would be so much better off being plopped in front of the TV while you work rather than spending time with an engaged childcare provider doing language activites, crafts, etc. Children must be with their mothers (not even fathers count according to some PPs) ALL THE TIME during the FORMATIVE years or else you are having someone else raise them. There are no other options that count.

Don't forget that it is also better to spend their days in the carseat, strapped into a gross Target cart, staring glassy-eyed at Mommy drinking her Starbucks etc than engaged with an experienced childcare provider who's an expert in development of kids that age.

Again - hilarious. Why is it that I see plenty of "glassy-eyed" babies and toddlers strapped into their Target (or Wal-Mart) seats while accompanied by their non-English speaking nannies, who are usually on the phone while aimlessly walking the aisles? Why is it that most childcare providers aren't "experts in development of kids," but rather extremely poorly paid, immigrant women with little to no English language skills? Do you really think your child is somehow being stimulated in these situations?

Ahh, the racist bitch again? My kids not with a nanny, btw. High quality childcare centers absolutely do the things pp described. Or do you believe classes are pointless too?

How is pointing out that the vast majority of childcare providers don't speak English as their first language in any way "racist"? You're so ridiculous it's painful.

You're despicable.
- new poster

Over dramatic much? And yet, you still haven't even answered the question: how does plainly speaking the obvious (and the truth), "racist"? Answer: it doesn't. PP is exactly right.

Stop! Please stop. You're being terrible and, I agree, racist and xenophobic.
- SAHM

Curious: if your childcare provider wasn't able to communicate with your child in his/her native language, would this be ok with you?

I know someone who specifically hired a nanny who spoke another language so that her child would learn that language. So for them, it was not only OK but preferred.

See how things work? Different strokes for different folks. If it wasn't Ok with someone they wouldn't hire that childcare provider. Done and done.

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Responding to above posts but not quoting because they are too long. There is a big difference between a non-native English speaker and one who cannot communicate in English at all. IME (and this is limited to the daycares I myself have visited or used, I don't profess to know the characteristics of "most" daycares in the DC area like some posters) child care workers have fallen into the former category. Accredited, licensed daycares are unlikely to hire someone who doesn't speak English, and no, I wouldn't put DC in a daycare if I myself could not communicate with the workers. For us, there have been no consequences or detriment to DC learning the English language despite it not being the first language of some of the daycare workers. And she entered kindergarden knowing a fair amount of Spanish too! We're now trying to make sure she maintains it. It's far easier for a young child to learn a language than waiting u til they are in middle school.

But no one is forcing you to do the same. What is it, do you think children who attend daycare need ESOL or something? Lol.

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Of course no issues with English as a second language, but broken English IS a problem.

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If so many children are being cared for by non-English speaking caregivers, then why isn't there a crisis in the DC area of American-born children entering kindergarten with broken English skills?

I don't think all those ESOL classes are full of daycare kids.

Wow, it's amazing how far some people will go in claiming daycare is awful in order to justify their own choice in how to raise their children. If you are so pleased as punch with yourselves for being SAHM then just be happy with that. Why are you trying so very hard to prove your way is better?

Plenty of SAHMs are well adjusted, educated, and secure in their life choices. But wow ... some literally have nothing going for them so their entire identity is wrapped up in SAH. My guess is that these are the SAHMs who cannot find a job that will cover the cost of quality childcare or who have absentee spouses so they are default single parents. I feel sorry for your children that your entire self esteem is wrapped up in being a "better" parent than everyone else. The same goes for working moms who get their self esteem from their career and tell SAHMs they are worthless.

To all you normal moms, this post isn't about you. Most of us also have identities (hobbies, possibly careers, volunteer activities, loving marriages, etc.) and don't need to resort to shaming other moms to feel good about ourselves. I wish we could start our own forum and kick out the zealots.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, it's amazing how far some people will go in claiming daycare is awful in order to justify their own choice in how to raise their children. If you are so pleased as punch with yourselves for being SAHM then just be happy with that. Why are you trying so very hard to prove your way is better?

I feel this way about many of the zealous posters on a variety of topics. They're trying SO hard to prove a point to the world that I think they're trying to convince themselves of something instead.

There are many ways to skin a cat and raise a child. I hate it when some people act like they discovered the magic formula to either.

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Anonymous wrote:My aunt was a SAHM and 3 of her 5 kids have criminal records. My mother also stayed home and me and all of my siblings turned out well, no records, college educated, etc. Obviously it takes more than just having a SAHM for a child to turn out right.

Well...obviously. But whoever seriously argues that being in daycare at 6 moths old for 8 hours a day (or even younger, or even longer...) is better for a child than being home with Mom or Dad is just delusional. Sure...some don't think they have any other option than to go back to work with their baby barely being born and that's what people argue here. You do NOT have to go back to work when your child is 3 months old. If you choose to, fine. But stop justifying your choice with made up reasoning. We all know you could have stayed home but chose not to.

How wonderful for you that you are so knowledgeable about the financial situation of all working parents. Of course we can all take off as much time as we want! Why didn't I know that? Thank you for enlightening me!

Putting my student loans in forebearance (while they continue to accrue interest) and giving up the awesome healthcare that my job provides sounds like a great option for my family.

My 22 year old cousin without any real work experience who got knocked up by a married man is going to be moving back in with her parents. She'll be able to spend as much time as she wants taking care of her infant. I guess that would be a preferable situation than having a dual income family with job stability, flexible hours, and parents with graduate defrees.

Oh PP, what would I have ever done without you to tell me what I can and cannot do!

Work from home if you need the money...I know you hadn't thought of that so you're welcome.

I work from home, and I know you hadn't thought of this so you're welcome in advance - most employers require that you show you have childcare if you work from home. Working from home requires actual working, not subsidized, extended maternity leave. It's working. I had to sign a contract that shows that my child is taken care of by someone else during work hours. I know the feds do this too. So your flip solution means nothing.

But your child would be so much better off being plopped in front of the TV while you work rather than spending time with an engaged childcare provider doing language activites, crafts, etc. Children must be with their mothers (not even fathers count according to some PPs) ALL THE TIME during the FORMATIVE years or else you are having someone else raise them. There are no other options that count.

Don't forget that it is also better to spend their days in the carseat, strapped into a gross Target cart, staring glassy-eyed at Mommy drinking her Starbucks etc than engaged with an experienced childcare provider who's an expert in development of kids that age.

Again - hilarious. Why is it that I see plenty of "glassy-eyed" babies and toddlers strapped into their Target (or Wal-Mart) seats while accompanied by their non-English speaking nannies, who are usually on the phone while aimlessly walking the aisles? Why is it that most childcare providers aren't "experts in development of kids," but rather extremely poorly paid, immigrant women with little to no English language skills? Do you really think your child is somehow being stimulated in these situations?

Ahh, the racist bitch again? My kids not with a nanny, btw. High quality childcare centers absolutely do the things pp described. Or do you believe classes are pointless too?

How is pointing out that the vast majority of childcare providers don't speak English as their first language in any way "racist"? You're so ridiculous it's painful.

You're despicable.
- new poster

Over dramatic much? And yet, you still haven't even answered the question: how does plainly speaking the obvious (and the truth), "racist"? Answer: it doesn't. PP is exactly right.

Stop! Please stop. You're being terrible and, I agree, racist and xenophobic.
- SAHM

Curious: if your childcare provider wasn't able to communicate with your child in his/her native language, would this be ok with you?

Do you really think the educated working moms on this site are choosing childcare providers who can't communicate with their children? Get out of your bubble, princess.

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Anonymous wrote:My aunt was a SAHM and 3 of her 5 kids have criminal records. My mother also stayed home and me and all of my siblings turned out well, no records, college educated, etc. Obviously it takes more than just having a SAHM for a child to turn out right.

Well...obviously. But whoever seriously argues that being in daycare at 6 moths old for 8 hours a day (or even younger, or even longer...) is better for a child than being home with Mom or Dad is just delusional. Sure...some don't think they have any other option than to go back to work with their baby barely being born and that's what people argue here. You do NOT have to go back to work when your child is 3 months old. If you choose to, fine. But stop justifying your choice with made up reasoning. We all know you could have stayed home but chose not to.

How wonderful for you that you are so knowledgeable about the financial situation of all working parents. Of course we can all take off as much time as we want! Why didn't I know that? Thank you for enlightening me!

Putting my student loans in forebearance (while they continue to accrue interest) and giving up the awesome healthcare that my job provides sounds like a great option for my family.

My 22 year old cousin without any real work experience who got knocked up by a married man is going to be moving back in with her parents. She'll be able to spend as much time as she wants taking care of her infant. I guess that would be a preferable situation than having a dual income family with job stability, flexible hours, and parents with graduate defrees.

Oh PP, what would I have ever done without you to tell me what I can and cannot do!

Work from home if you need the money...I know you hadn't thought of that so you're welcome.

I work from home, and I know you hadn't thought of this so you're welcome in advance - most employers require that you show you have childcare if you work from home. Working from home requires actual working, not subsidized, extended maternity leave. It's working. I had to sign a contract that shows that my child is taken care of by someone else during work hours. I know the feds do this too. So your flip solution means nothing.

But your child would be so much better off being plopped in front of the TV while you work rather than spending time with an engaged childcare provider doing language activites, crafts, etc. Children must be with their mothers (not even fathers count according to some PPs) ALL THE TIME during the FORMATIVE years or else you are having someone else raise them. There are no other options that count.

Don't forget that it is also better to spend their days in the carseat, strapped into a gross Target cart, staring glassy-eyed at Mommy drinking her Starbucks etc than engaged with an experienced childcare provider who's an expert in development of kids that age.

Again - hilarious. Why is it that I see plenty of "glassy-eyed" babies and toddlers strapped into their Target (or Wal-Mart) seats while accompanied by their non-English speaking nannies, who are usually on the phone while aimlessly walking the aisles? Why is it that most childcare providers aren't "experts in development of kids," but rather extremely poorly paid, immigrant women with little to no English language skills? Do you really think your child is somehow being stimulated in these situations?

Ahh, the racist bitch again? My kids not with a nanny, btw. High quality childcare centers absolutely do the things pp described. Or do you believe classes are pointless too?

How is pointing out that the vast majority of childcare providers don't speak English as their first language in any way "racist"? You're so ridiculous it's painful.

You're despicable.
- new poster

Over dramatic much? And yet, you still haven't even answered the question: how does plainly speaking the obvious (and the truth), "racist"? Answer: it doesn't. PP is exactly right.

Stop! Please stop. You're being terrible and, I agree, racist and xenophobic.
- SAHM

Curious: if your childcare provider wasn't able to communicate with your child in his/her native language, would this be ok with you?

Do you really think the educated working moms on this site are choosing childcare providers who can't communicate with their children? Get out of your bubble, princess.

You're the one in a bubble, sweets. Just visit your neighborhood park to see for yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:If so many children are being cared for by non-English speaking caregivers, then why isn't there a crisis in the DC area of American-born children entering kindergarten with broken English skills?

I don't think all those ESOL classes are full of daycare kids.

Wow, it's amazing how far some people will go in claiming daycare is awful in order to justify their own choice in how to raise their children. If you are so pleased as punch with yourselves for being SAHM then just be happy with that. Why are you trying so very hard to prove your way is better?

Plenty of SAHMs are well adjusted, educated, and secure in their life choices. But wow ... some literally have nothing going for them so their entire identity is wrapped up in SAH. My guess is that these are the SAHMs who cannot find a job that will cover the cost of quality childcare or who have absentee spouses so they are default single parents. I feel sorry for your children that your entire self esteem is wrapped up in being a "better" parent than everyone else. The same goes for working moms who get their self esteem from their career and tell SAHMs they are worthless.

To all you normal moms, this post isn't about you. Most of us also have identities (hobbies, possibly careers, volunteer activities, loving marriages, etc.) and don't need to resort to shaming other moms to feel good about ourselves. I wish we could start our own forum and kick out the zealots.

Hello. There IS a crisis. It's politely called "special needs." Speech therapy galore.

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PP, the more you try to convince us all how much more superior and all knowing you are about childcare, the more we all think you are nutso and feel bad for you.

You clearly keep posting because you need to convince yourself of something. You do not sound like a secure person.

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Anonymous wrote:PP, the more you try to convince us all how much more superior and all knowing you are about childcare, the more we all think you are nutso and feel bad for you.

You clearly keep posting because you need to convince yourself of something. You do not sound like a secure person.

This was to the 13:59 poster.

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Anonymous wrote:If so many children are being cared for by non-English speaking caregivers, then why isn't there a crisis in the DC area of American-born children entering kindergarten with broken English skills?

I don't think all those ESOL classes are full of daycare kids.

Wow, it's amazing how far some people will go in claiming daycare is awful in order to justify their own choice in how to raise their children. If you are so pleased as punch with yourselves for being SAHM then just be happy with that. Why are you trying so very hard to prove your way is better?

Plenty of SAHMs are well adjusted, educated, and secure in their life choices. But wow ... some literally have nothing going for them so their entire identity is wrapped up in SAH. My guess is that these are the SAHMs who cannot find a job that will cover the cost of quality childcare or who have absentee spouses so they are default single parents. I feel sorry for your children that your entire self esteem is wrapped up in being a "better" parent than everyone else. The same goes for working moms who get their self esteem from their career and tell SAHMs they are worthless.

To all you normal moms, this post isn't about you. Most of us also have identities (hobbies, possibly careers, volunteer activities, loving marriages, etc.) and don't need to resort to shaming other moms to feel good about ourselves. I wish we could start our own forum and kick out the zealots.

Hello. There IS a crisis. It's politely called "special needs." Speech therapy galore.

Funny how I know SAHMs whose kids have speech and language issues. What can they blame it on if these problems are allegedly caused by childcare? Also, the child mind is much more adept at picking up differences and adapting to hearing multiple languages. I have never seen a single study claim children being exposed to multiple languages are somehow harmed. In fact the opposite is quite true.

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PSA: please snip the posts you quote so that they are actually relevant. I skim right through walls of quotes.