Taylor's Swift's new album - let's GOOOOO

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Anonymous wrote:These haters are so unhinged. They obsess with mean girl behavior. Taylor has done a lot of good in the world and she rocks


Criticizing Taylor's work is always fair game. That's how art work. It doesn't matter what else you do -- many artists have done a ton of charitable work or are just very exceptionally good people, and they will still get critical reviews (by professional critics and by regular people) because that's the gig. You have the privilege of sharing your artistic work with the world, and letting them receive it as they will.

The random criticism of her relationships or just hating on the way she looks or just vague attacks on her being washed up or middle aged or fake or whatever... some of that is mean girl behavior but it's easy to ignore.

But criticizing her music or her videos or her dancing or the concept of her album? That's always fair game.


Disappointed in this album. She comes off as an insecure mean girl and unconscious racist.

DP. I thought I was the only one who noticed the latter but a lot of people on Reddit and X said the same thing. I think it’s probably normal for her to feel a bit insecure when her fiancé has ever only been publicly linked to black women. The savage reference is particularly weird because Megan Thee stallion allegedly rejected him.


People on reddit and Twitter always think everything is racist. There's a line about an onyx sky or something and they think it's racist against his ex.

Except she directly references the ex in the same song. And said herself that it’s about when relationships don’t work out.

https://www.glamour.com/story/taylor-swifts-opalite-lyrics-decoded


She's talking about times were dark with that girl, and now they have created happiness. She surely does not mean to literally say "your ex was dark skinned and now you have me, a white chick."

The word onyx and onyx imagery are much more linked to blackness than the word “dark” but nice try.
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Anonymous wrote:"Opalite" is about Travis's ex girlfriend he dated for five years? It's so gross to be a billionaire with this sort of platform attacking a random middle class Black woman who dated your fiancé.

Because she’s insecure even though she shouldn’t be. Travis would never leave her money and fame for some middle class rando.
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Sorry but it’s pretty gay for a woman to brag about a man’s penis size. She’s overcompensating.
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Anonymous wrote:Matty, Charli xcx, George Daniel and their social circle must all be laughing their arses off at Swift’s meathead boyfriend, his and her ridiculous wardrobes at games, and their super cringy antics. Swift was sophisticated when she was dating Euro boys, now she looks like a flyover rube.


Their social circle? It never occurred to me that Charli had any class whatsoever. I mean, I saw photos of her cringy wedding dresses…


And there's this



The poor waitstaff at that dinner. Good grief.
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Anonymous wrote:Matty, Charli xcx, George Daniel and their social circle must all be laughing their arses off at Swift’s meathead boyfriend, his and her ridiculous wardrobes at games, and their super cringy antics. Swift was sophisticated when she was dating Euro boys, now she looks like a flyover rube.




That is one unwholesome looking group. 🤮
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Anonymous wrote:"Opalite" is about Travis's ex girlfriend he dated for five years? It's so gross to be a billionaire with this sort of platform attacking a random middle class Black woman who dated your fiancé.


No, it's about Taylor coming out of her depression.

What about this is even about Taylor:

“ You couldn't understand it
Why you felt alone
You were in it for real
She was in her phone
And you were just a pose”
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Anonymous wrote:"Opalite" is about Travis's ex girlfriend he dated for five years? It's so gross to be a billionaire with this sort of platform attacking a random middle class Black woman who dated your fiancé.


What does her race and “class” (??) have to do with anything? You sound idiotic, trying to make this a racial thing.
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I miss Jack Antonoff and Aaron Dessner.
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Anonymous wrote:This album was mailed in. This is what happens when you wait too long to settle down. She should have married Calvin Harris ten years ago. Even Harris ended up with some gold digger who previously rejected him. Taylor's lost her aura and is about to marry a meathead doofus.


She sounds happier, a bit jaded, and more at ease with herself. It’s a fun album. Less innocent, more playful. I don’t think she mails much of anything in, and it’s interesting how the album is conjuring opposite opinions to the point of controversy. It will be interesting to see where she takes her music next.


She's in the twilight of her forgettable career. It's highly unlikely that, twenty years from now, if her song is randomly played that a kid will enthusiastically ask: who sings this ?
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Anonymous wrote:Matty is sexy


I guess if you like skinny, greasy, drugged out white boys, then the world (especially the rust belt) is your oyster. Have at it sis.


The skinny,drugged out white boy is the one she was with .
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:These haters are so unhinged. They obsess with mean girl behavior. Taylor has done a lot of good in the world and she rocks


Criticizing Taylor's work is always fair game. That's how art work. It doesn't matter what else you do -- many artists have done a ton of charitable work or are just very exceptionally good people, and they will still get critical reviews (by professional critics and by regular people) because that's the gig. You have the privilege of sharing your artistic work with the world, and letting them receive it as they will.

The random criticism of her relationships or just hating on the way she looks or just vague attacks on her being washed up or middle aged or fake or whatever... some of that is mean girl behavior but it's easy to ignore.

But criticizing her music or her videos or her dancing or the concept of her album? That's always fair game.


Disappointed in this album. She comes off as an insecure mean girl and unconscious racist.

DP. I thought I was the only one who noticed the latter but a lot of people on Reddit and X said the same thing. I think it’s probably normal for her to feel a bit insecure when her fiancé has ever only been publicly linked to black women. The savage reference is particularly weird because Megan Thee stallion allegedly rejected him.


People on reddit and Twitter always think everything is racist. There's a line about an onyx sky or something and they think it's racist against his ex.

Except she directly references the ex in the same song. And said herself that it’s about when relationships don’t work out.

https://www.glamour.com/story/taylor-swifts-opalite-lyrics-decoded


She's talking about times were dark with that girl, and now they have created happiness. She surely does not mean to literally say "your ex was dark skinned and now you have me, a white chick."

The word onyx and onyx imagery are much more linked to blackness than the word “dark” but nice try.


Here is the line

Sleepless in the onyx night
But now the sky is opalite

Look up onyx night or onyx star or even the gemstone onyx

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Anonymous wrote:Matty is sexy


I guess if you like skinny, greasy, drugged out white boys, then the world (especially the rust belt) is your oyster. Have at it sis.


The skinny,drugged out white boy is the one she was with .

She loves herself a bad boy
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This album was mailed in. This is what happens when you wait too long to settle down. She should have married Calvin Harris ten years ago. Even Harris ended up with some gold digger who previously rejected him. Taylor's lost her aura and is about to marry a meathead doofus.


She sounds happier, a bit jaded, and more at ease with herself. It’s a fun album. Less innocent, more playful. I don’t think she mails much of anything in, and it’s interesting how the album is conjuring opposite opinions to the point of controversy. It will be interesting to see where she takes her music next.


She's in the twilight of her forgettable career. It's highly unlikely that, twenty years from now, if her song is randomly played that a kid will enthusiastically ask: who sings this ?


I have to agree with this.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"Opalite" is about Travis's ex girlfriend he dated for five years? It's so gross to be a billionaire with this sort of platform attacking a random middle class Black woman who dated your fiancé.


It's not only psychopathic mean girl bullying of a lone non-famous Black woman, it's flat out embarrassing she has to reach back to her man's past relationship for song material.


Agreed. Both this and Actually Romantic are weird to me because it demonstrates that she's sitting around thinking/imagining what people like Travis's ex, or Matty's circle of friends, are doing now that she and Travis have moved on from them. That's a very unhealthy mentality, and is a weird thing to be thinking about right before getting engaged. It's very backwards looking and makes me wonder if she's making decisions for her own happiness and satisfaction, or if it's about proving these other people wrong or showing them up.


I’m surprised this is sparking such a reaction tbh because these songs aren’t new for Taylor and I don’t think it means she’s not a girls girl or doesn’t support other female artists. I also suspect it goes way beyond a response to Sympathy is a Knife.


What could Charli possibly have done that would merit being called out for a public flogging the way Taylor is doing it? Like assume Charli does call Taylor "Boring Barbie" behind her back and did celebrate Matty breaking up with her. So? This is not some great offense. Charli is married to Matty's best friend and bandmate. Of course she is going to support Matty in the breakup. So she uses some random insult about Taylor privately? Who cares. Have you never made fun of someone one of your friends used to date? Please.

The stuff about Travis's ex is more attenuated to me. Yes I see the references in the lyrics but it's not obvious unless you know a LOT of details about these people's lives. Whereas the Charli stuff is very overt and it's easy to see what she's saying, and it's clear the entire song is not just about Charli but intended as some kind of public insult. It's tacky and petty and completely unnecessary.

Taylor could have written a song about her feelings about the Charli situation without so explicitly attacking and referencing Charli. And it also would have made the song more universal and easy to identify with. But it's obvious she wanted to punish Charli. It's so vindictive.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"Opalite" is about Travis's ex girlfriend he dated for five years? It's so gross to be a billionaire with this sort of platform attacking a random middle class Black woman who dated your fiancé.


It's not only psychopathic mean girl bullying of a lone non-famous Black woman, it's flat out embarrassing she has to reach back to her man's past relationship for song material.


Agreed. Both this and Actually Romantic are weird to me because it demonstrates that she's sitting around thinking/imagining what people like Travis's ex, or Matty's circle of friends, are doing now that she and Travis have moved on from them. That's a very unhealthy mentality, and is a weird thing to be thinking about right before getting engaged. It's very backwards looking and makes me wonder if she's making decisions for her own happiness and satisfaction, or if it's about proving these other people wrong or showing them up.


I’m surprised this is sparking such a reaction tbh because these songs aren’t new for Taylor and I don’t think it means she’s not a girls girl or doesn’t support other female artists. I also suspect it goes way beyond a response to Sympathy is a Knife.


What could Charli possibly have done that would merit being called out for a public flogging the way Taylor is doing it? Like assume Charli does call Taylor "Boring Barbie" behind her back and did celebrate Matty breaking up with her. So? This is not some great offense. Charli is married to Matty's best friend and bandmate. Of course she is going to support Matty in the breakup. So she uses some random insult about Taylor privately? Who cares. Have you never made fun of someone one of your friends used to date? Please.

The stuff about Travis's ex is more attenuated to me. Yes I see the references in the lyrics but it's not obvious unless you know a LOT of details about these people's lives. Whereas the Charli stuff is very overt and it's easy to see what she's saying, and it's clear the entire song is not just about Charli but intended as some kind of public insult. It's tacky and petty and completely unnecessary.

Taylor could have written a song about her feelings about the Charli situation without so explicitly attacking and referencing Charli. And it also would have made the song more universal and easy to identify with. But it's obvious she wanted to punish Charli. It's so vindictive.


Yup the way it all all leads back to her being upset that Matty broke up with her. So the heroin chic crew talked about her after the break up. At her big age that shouldn't bother her to the point she's devalued her own writing capabilities. I defend her making music about people because it can be a great introspective journey. Some of her music can be juvenile but in my opinion she does good at being witty with it. This was weird and uncalled for.
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