Taylor's Swift's new album - let's GOOOOO

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Anonymous wrote:These haters are so unhinged. They obsess with mean girl behavior. Taylor has done a lot of good in the world and she rocks

Criticizing Taylor's work is always fair game. That's how art work. It doesn't matter what else you do -- many artists have done a ton of charitable work or are just very exceptionally good people, and they will still get critical reviews (by professional critics and by regular people) because that's the gig. You have the privilege of sharing your artistic work with the world, and letting them receive it as they will.

The random criticism of her relationships or just hating on the way she looks or just vague attacks on her being washed up or middle aged or fake or whatever... some of that is mean girl behavior but it's easy to ignore.

But criticizing her music or her videos or her dancing or the concept of her album? That's always fair game.

Disappointed in this album. She comes off as an insecure mean girl and unconscious racist.

DP. I thought I was the only one who noticed the latter but a lot of people on Reddit and X said the same thing. I think it’s probably normal for her to feel a bit insecure when her fiancé has ever only been publicly linked to black women. The savage reference is particularly weird because Megan Thee stallion allegedly rejected him.

People on reddit and Twitter always think everything is racist. There's a line about an onyx sky or something and they think it's racist against his ex.

Except she directly references the ex in the same song. And said herself that it’s about when relationships don’t work out.

https://www.glamour.com/story/taylor-swifts-opalite-lyrics-decoded

She's talking about times were dark with that girl, and now they have created happiness. She surely does not mean to literally say "your ex was dark skinned and now you have me, a white chick."

The word onyx and onyx imagery are much more linked to blackness than the word “dark” but nice try.

Here is the line

Sleepless in the onyx night
But now the sky is opalite

Look up onyx night or onyx star or even the gemstone onyx

The previous poster is correct.

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two posters here are completely unhinged about and obsessed with matty healy. i guarantee you ts does not think about him nearly as much as you do.

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Anonymous wrote:These haters are so unhinged. They obsess with mean girl behavior. Taylor has done a lot of good in the world and she rocks

Criticizing Taylor's work is always fair game. That's how art work. It doesn't matter what else you do -- many artists have done a ton of charitable work or are just very exceptionally good people, and they will still get critical reviews (by professional critics and by regular people) because that's the gig. You have the privilege of sharing your artistic work with the world, and letting them receive it as they will.

The random criticism of her relationships or just hating on the way she looks or just vague attacks on her being washed up or middle aged or fake or whatever... some of that is mean girl behavior but it's easy to ignore.

But criticizing her music or her videos or her dancing or the concept of her album? That's always fair game.

Disappointed in this album. She comes off as an insecure mean girl and unconscious racist.

DP. I thought I was the only one who noticed the latter but a lot of people on Reddit and X said the same thing. I think it’s probably normal for her to feel a bit insecure when her fiancé has ever only been publicly linked to black women. The savage reference is particularly weird because Megan Thee stallion allegedly rejected him.

People on reddit and Twitter always think everything is racist. There's a line about an onyx sky or something and they think it's racist against his ex.

Except she directly references the ex in the same song. And said herself that it’s about when relationships don’t work out.

https://www.glamour.com/story/taylor-swifts-opalite-lyrics-decoded

She's talking about times were dark with that girl, and now they have created happiness. She surely does not mean to literally say "your ex was dark skinned and now you have me, a white chick."

The word onyx and onyx imagery are much more linked to blackness than the word “dark” but nice try.

Here is the line

Sleepless in the onyx night
But now the sky is opalite

Look up onyx night or onyx star or even the gemstone onyx

The previous poster is correct.

This take is nuts. If she had a problem with it, she wouldn't be marrying him. And her body count is too high for her to be complaining about anyone else's and she knows it. She does not care at all about Kayla.

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If she's so racist why even date a man who has been with black women?

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Anonymous wrote:If she's so racist why even date a man who has been with black women?

Because she’s the textbook definition of a “pick me!”

Funny how her last four or five exes have gone on to date/marry WOC.

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Anonymous wrote:I really like the song Wish List. I’m surprised she wrote it for Travis. It sounds just like “And if my wishes came true, it would’ve been you” and “I like shiny things, but I’d marry you with paper rings.” Those deep desires don’t transfer to every man a woman dates. My bet is it’s at least partly inspired by Matty Healy, still. The lyric about asking the world to leave them the f&ck alone, “and they do, wow” makes no sense for Travis. No one is bothering and canceling them the way they did when she went public with Matty.
Wish List is the continuation of But Daddy I Love Him: the heat dies down and she gets back together with him. Her parents and the fans lets them be and she is having his baby.

Elizabeth Taylor has shades of the anxious attachment that was all over Lover. Cornelia Street: “and baby I’m so terrified of if you ever walk away/ I’d never walk Cornelia Street again.” Elizabeth Taylor: “And if you ever leave me high and dry / I’d cry my eyes violet Elizabeth Taylor.” Mind you, Elizabeth Taylor is one of about 4 songs I like on this album but nevertheless, she is ENDLESSLY retreading the same themes she’s been writing about for the last 8 years. There’s no forward progression.

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Anonymous wrote:Taylor is revered for her pettiness and vengefulness. It’s part of how fans relate to her.

Yeah, I never get the criticism here. Any show, any book, any movie, any music we listen to it’s all about people figuring their crap out.

“ I’ve been in therapy for years and I’m finally figuring out how to own my own stuff and not rely on other people to meet needs I am responsible for meeting on my own” is great in real life but we want to see that journey not just hear about the destination.

This is not a People magazine cover story. It’s an album.

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Some of you are really clueless. Charli absolutely loves this and loves the relevance. They all do.

You act like it’s some deep offense…come on….she’s in on the joke. don’t take it so seriously - it’s just a diss track and it’s great for everyone’s career.

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Anonymous wrote:Taylor is revered for her pettiness and vengefulness. It’s part of how fans relate to her.

Yeah, I never get the criticism here. Any show, any book, any movie, any music we listen to it’s all about people figuring their crap out.

“ I’ve been in therapy for years and I’m finally figuring out how to own my own stuff and not rely on other people to meet needs I am responsible for meeting on my own” is great in real life but we want to see that journey not just hear about the destination.

This is not a People magazine cover story. It’s an album.

If people want to like her for her pettiness and vengefulness, I get that. I’m glad some of her fans are owning up to that because they used to berate/insult anyone who called her that. I guess they are maturing? I DO have a problem with someone who is consistently punching down and using vengeance as a platform being called a “good role model” for young girls. I can only see that being a plus if you want to perpetuate mean girl culture.

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Anonymous wrote:Some of you are really clueless. Charli absolutely loves this and loves the relevance. They all do.

You act like it’s some deep offense…come on….she’s in on the joke. don’t take it so seriously - it’s just a diss track and it’s great for everyone’s career.

The “any press is good press” has been taken to an extreme especially in federal politics. I’m ready to move away from “disses” being a vehicle to generate popularity. It clearly isn’t healthy.

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Anonymous wrote:These haters are so unhinged. They obsess with mean girl behavior. Taylor has done a lot of good in the world and she rocks

Criticizing Taylor's work is always fair game. That's how art work. It doesn't matter what else you do -- many artists have done a ton of charitable work or are just very exceptionally good people, and they will still get critical reviews (by professional critics and by regular people) because that's the gig. You have the privilege of sharing your artistic work with the world, and letting them receive it as they will.

The random criticism of her relationships or just hating on the way she looks or just vague attacks on her being washed up or middle aged or fake or whatever... some of that is mean girl behavior but it's easy to ignore.

But criticizing her music or her videos or her dancing or the concept of her album? That's always fair game.

Disappointed in this album. She comes off as an insecure mean girl and unconscious racist.

DP. I thought I was the only one who noticed the latter but a lot of people on Reddit and X said the same thing. I think it’s probably normal for her to feel a bit insecure when her fiancé has ever only been publicly linked to black women. The savage reference is particularly weird because Megan Thee stallion allegedly rejected him.

People on reddit and Twitter always think everything is racist. There's a line about an onyx sky or something and they think it's racist against his ex.

Except she directly references the ex in the same song. And said herself that it’s about when relationships don’t work out.

https://www.glamour.com/story/taylor-swifts-opalite-lyrics-decoded

She's talking about times were dark with that girl, and now they have created happiness. She surely does not mean to literally say "your ex was dark skinned and now you have me, a white chick."

The word onyx and onyx imagery are much more linked to blackness than the word “dark” but nice try.

Here is the line

Sleepless in the onyx night
But now the sky is opalite

Look up onyx night or onyx star or even the gemstone onyx

The previous poster is correct.

This take is nuts. If she had a problem with it, she wouldn't be marrying him. And her body count is too high for her to be complaining about anyone else's and she knows it. She does not care at all about Kayla.

+1 these black women are spinning out that he went black and then went back. Pathetic.

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Anonymous wrote:This album was mailed in. This is what happens when you wait too long to settle down. She should have married Calvin Harris ten years ago. Even Harris ended up with some gold digger who previously rejected him. Taylor's lost her aura and is about to marry a meathead doofus.

She sounds happier, a bit jaded, and more at ease with herself. It’s a fun album. Less innocent, more playful. I don’t think she mails much of anything in, and it’s interesting how the album is conjuring opposite opinions to the point of controversy. It will be interesting to see where she takes her music next.

She's in the twilight of her forgettable career. It's highly unlikely that, twenty years from now, if her song is randomly played that a kid will enthusiastically ask: who sings this ?

This is when you know people are haters and jealous for no reason. The haters like this are psycho. Forgettable career? Countless Grammies and the number one album of all time, makes a ton and has helped tons of people.

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Anonymous wrote:This album was mailed in. This is what happens when you wait too long to settle down. She should have married Calvin Harris ten years ago. Even Harris ended up with some gold digger who previously rejected him. Taylor's lost her aura and is about to marry a meathead doofus.

She sounds happier, a bit jaded, and more at ease with herself. It’s a fun album. Less innocent, more playful. I don’t think she mails much of anything in, and it’s interesting how the album is conjuring opposite opinions to the point of controversy. It will be interesting to see where she takes her music next.

She's in the twilight of her forgettable career. It's highly unlikely that, twenty years from now, if her song is randomly played that a kid will enthusiastically ask: who sings this ?

This is when you know people are haters and jealous for no reason. The haters like this are psycho. Forgettable career? Countless Grammies and the number one album of all time, makes a ton and has helped tons of people.

Correction- number 1 tour of all time

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Listened to the album last night and freakin’ loved it. My best friend loved it, as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Some of you are really clueless. Charli absolutely loves this and loves the relevance. They all do.

You act like it’s some deep offense…come on….she’s in on the joke. don’t take it so seriously - it’s just a diss track and it’s great for everyone’s career.

The “any press is good press” has been taken to an extreme especially in federal politics. I’m ready to move away from “disses” being a vehicle to generate popularity. It clearly isn’t healthy.

I’m not saying it’s a good thing and I don’t particularly find it interesting, but that oh my god Charli poor Charli we must protect her at all costs is ridiculous. The joke is on us and they are all in on it.