Women who say they aren't voting on the single issue of abortion rights

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Anonymous wrote:Sooo many forms of birth control.

I know women who managed to not get pregnant despite having sex. They probably used 2 forms at a time.

I’ve been having sex multiple times a week for decades and I’ve only gotten pregnant when I didn’t use birth control. I knew what I was doing. I’ve never had an abortion. It’s an archaic, irrelevant procedure. We might as well be arguing about the right to bleed out infections with leeches.

60 to 90% women with genetically abnormal pregnancies choose to abort. This procedure is very much in demand and will remain so for as long as women have a choice. Data shows women overwhelmingly choose to terminate genetically abnormal pregnancies.

Genetically abnormal or emergency abortions are not the ones Republicans are against limiting

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sooo many forms of birth control.

I know women who managed to not get pregnant despite having sex. They probably used 2 forms at a time.

I’ve been having sex multiple times a week for decades and I’ve only gotten pregnant when I didn’t use birth control. I knew what I was doing. I’ve never had an abortion. It’s an archaic, irrelevant procedure. We might as well be arguing about the right to bleed out infections with leeches.

60 to 90% women with genetically abnormal pregnancies choose to abort. This procedure is very much in demand and will remain so for as long as women have a choice. Data shows women overwhelmingly choose to terminate genetically abnormal pregnancies.

Genetically abnormal or emergency abortions are not the ones Republicans are against limiting

Some of them are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sooo many forms of birth control.

I know women who managed to not get pregnant despite having sex. They probably used 2 forms at a time.

I’ve been having sex multiple times a week for decades and I’ve only gotten pregnant when I didn’t use birth control. I knew what I was doing. I’ve never had an abortion. It’s an archaic, irrelevant procedure. We might as well be arguing about the right to bleed out infections with leeches.

60 to 90% women with genetically abnormal pregnancies choose to abort. This procedure is very much in demand and will remain so for as long as women have a choice. Data shows women overwhelmingly choose to terminate genetically abnormal pregnancies.

Genetically abnormal or emergency abortions are not the ones Republicans are against limiting

Some of them are.

Not really.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Abortion numbers have actually increased since Dobbs. Funny how that works!

As a mom of two daughters, reproductive freedom is my top voting issue. Same with my first time presidential election voting daughter. We showed up and voted last week.

Nice to you know you're raising your daughter in fear of false dilemmas without the critical stamina to understand that women are in far worse danger of subjugation under the regime that is allowing men to invade their spaces, their jobs, their sports. You are not being a good role model for your daughter when you teach her that the most important issue for electing a president is how far along in pregnancy a woman can abort her child. Question: has Harris said how she will overturn the Scotus decision?

What a load of bologna. I am definitely raising my daughters and sons to be able to see through that kind of b*******.

Explain to your sons and daughters the critical importance of reproductive rights and explain to them how to fight and vote to get them.

Why do you keep saying reproductive rights when what you mean is abortion? You can turn yourself inside out all you want, you are still advocating for ending the lives of fetuses. These are not 'clumps of cells.' These are fully-formed, human beings, who, after about 12 weeks, have to be pulled apart and killed in utero.

Ok scoldylocks, I wouldn't even have kids to teach if it wasn't for IVF like millions of other moms. And darling, some of the embryos don't make it when you do IVF.

I've got this issue covered with my kids. I don't need any help from the likes of you.

I'm the PP you're responding to, and I also had my children through IVF--actual IVF, not the IUI, as the Walzes did then lied about. In any event, it is a red herring to talk about "reproductive rights" and you know it. You are not voting about IVF, you are voting about abortion and cannot be honest with yourself. I am fully aware of how IVF works by the way. And you know what else, two of my IVF babies were born at 20 weeks. I held them for the 2 hours they lived and breathed outside of my uterus. Kissed them and told them how much I loved them. Are you the kind of person who calls those "clumps of cells?"

Well then from one IVF mom to another.... I don't know why you don't understand this..... but the destruction of Roe threatens IVF as a fertility treatment. If you want to fully protect access to IVF and some other fertility treatments...And yes also abortion, which is the flip side of fertility treatments, Daniel then we then we need to fight to get back the protections of Roe. Voting for Harris it's the beginning of this process.

[Anonymous]

Abortion is at the state level now. What are you all expecting from the president at this point on abortion. This is so stupid and makes no sense as there is nothing trump or anyone can do about the issue now. Take it up with the states. Its like no one on here understands how this works.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Abortion is at the state level now. What are you all expecting from the president at this point on abortion. This is so stupid and makes no sense as there is nothing trump or anyone can do about the issue now. Take it up with the states. Its like no one on here understands how this works.

Oh hell no. You're not going to "states rights" away or basic reproductive freedoms. You think women don't have the patience and fortitude for a long fight over this until we win? you would be incorrect.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sooo many forms of birth control.

I know women who managed to not get pregnant despite having sex. They probably used 2 forms at a time.

I’ve been having sex multiple times a week for decades and I’ve only gotten pregnant when I didn’t use birth control. I knew what I was doing. I’ve never had an abortion. It’s an archaic, irrelevant procedure. We might as well be arguing about the right to bleed out infections with leeches.

60 to 90% women with genetically abnormal pregnancies choose to abort. This procedure is very much in demand and will remain so for as long as women have a choice. Data shows women overwhelmingly choose to terminate genetically abnormal pregnancies.

Genetically abnormal or emergency abortions are not the ones Republicans are against limiting

Some of them are.

Not really.

You’re saying it’s easy to terminate a genetically abnormal pregnancy at 20 weeks in a republican controlled state? I don’t think that’s correct.

[Anonymous]

I'm not a single issue voter. I will vote for Harris because of many, many, many issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Roe v Wade is back in the states. If you live in the DC metro area, it’s a wonder why anyone would make abortion their litmus test. It’s going to be accessible for you or your loved ones up to nine months even in Wash DC

Some of us aren’t sociopaths so we care about other people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Abortion is at the state level now. What are you all expecting from the president at this point on abortion. This is so stupid and makes no sense as there is nothing trump or anyone can do about the issue now. Take it up with the states. It’s like no one on here understands how this works.

^^^ still hasn’t read the Dobbs decision

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Anonymous wrote:Once again forced birthers end up looking like a bag of clowns, all accusations and their own weird Life News takes on what they think pro choice people want, and the flimsiest understanding of any of the issues. Like weird little bits of slag formed in the weak fires of right wing propaganda, they’re off their rockers.

I’m pro-choice but I think in this thread, the extremist death up until birth people look by far the worst.

Timestamp of the poster who said “up until birth”?

Still waiting on this.

Unless…PP is a liar.

Already answered. The posters who compared a fetus to a diseased liver, and that it could be removed exactly like a diseased liver up until the moment of birth.

Abortion up to birth? Link to the post or to an actual story on this.

The liver poster is on pages 28-30 of this thread. And yes, that poster was horrifying.

There are several posts so I am just giving you the page range.

I just went back. This is false.

Someone said they didn’t need to know details of any medical procedure and gave the example of a procedure to remove a liver.

And no one said up to birth. Zero. There was just some nut throwing out ridiculous strawmen left and right.

Forced birthers don’t act in good faith. Ironic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Roe v Wade is back in the states. If you live in the DC metro area, it’s a wonder why anyone would make abortion their litmus test. It’s going to be accessible for you or your loved ones up to nine months even in Wash DC

Some of us aren’t sociopaths so we care about other people.

Except for the unborn.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Abortion numbers have actually increased since Dobbs. Funny how that works!

As a mom of two daughters, reproductive freedom is my top voting issue. Same with my first time presidential election voting daughter. We showed up and voted last week.

Nice to you know you're raising your daughter in fear of false dilemmas without the critical stamina to understand that women are in far worse danger of subjugation under the regime that is allowing men to invade their spaces, their jobs, their sports. You are not being a good role model for your daughter when you teach her that the most important issue for electing a president is how far along in pregnancy a woman can abort her child. Question: has Harris said how she will overturn the Scotus decision?

What a load of bologna. I am definitely raising my daughters and sons to be able to see through that kind of b*******.

Explain to your sons and daughters the critical importance of reproductive rights and explain to them how to fight and vote to get them.

Why do you keep saying reproductive rights when what you mean is abortion? You can turn yourself inside out all you want, you are still advocating for ending the lives of fetuses. These are not 'clumps of cells.' These are fully-formed, human beings, who, after about 12 weeks, have to be pulled apart and killed in utero.

Ok scoldylocks, I wouldn't even have kids to teach if it wasn't for IVF like millions of other moms. And darling, some of the embryos don't make it when you do IVF.

I've got this issue covered with my kids. I don't need any help from the likes of you.

I'm the PP you're responding to, and I also had my children through IVF--actual IVF, not the IUI, as the Walzes did then lied about. In any event, it is a red herring to talk about "reproductive rights" and you know it. You are not voting about IVF, you are voting about abortion and cannot be honest with yourself. I am fully aware of how IVF works by the way. And you know what else, two of my IVF babies were born at 20 weeks. I held them for the 2 hours they lived and breathed outside of my uterus. Kissed them and told them how much I loved them. Are you the kind of person who calls those "clumps of cells?"

Well then from one IVF mom to another.... I don't know why you don't understand this..... but the destruction of Roe threatens IVF as a fertility treatment. If you want to fully protect access to IVF and some other fertility treatments...And yes also abortion, which is the flip side of fertility treatments, Daniel then we then we need to fight to get back the protections of Roe. Voting for Harris it's the beginning of this process.

Actually, as an"IVF mom" (though, I don't know identify myself that way), I am hopeful that the technology is as close as it sounds to not have to produce and discard embryos. I am a massive hypocrite, because the discarding of embryos bothers me. I did not discard any. We had multiple rounds--as I mentioned, two of them were delivered and died at 20 weeks, and the rest were used in multiple attempts. It would pain me to discard of them. Nonetheless, not a single state has taken a step to ban IVF, so again, red herring.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sooo many forms of birth control.

I know women who managed to not get pregnant despite having sex. They probably used 2 forms at a time.

I’ve been having sex multiple times a week for decades and I’ve only gotten pregnant when I didn’t use birth control. I knew what I was doing. I’ve never had an abortion. It’s an archaic, irrelevant procedure. We might as well be arguing about the right to bleed out infections with leeches.

60 to 90% women with genetically abnormal pregnancies choose to abort. This procedure is very much in demand and will remain so for as long as women have a choice. Data shows women overwhelmingly choose to terminate genetically abnormal pregnancies.

Genetically abnormal or emergency abortions are not the ones Republicans are against limiting

Some of them are.

Not really.

You’re saying it’s easy to terminate a genetically abnormal pregnancy at 20 weeks in a republican controlled state? I don’t think that’s correct.

Nor should it be. This is part of the issue. Timing and reasons for termination. Sanger is so joyful, as she watches seeing people terminate any babies that aren't perfect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Abortion numbers have actually increased since Dobbs. Funny how that works!

As a mom of two daughters, reproductive freedom is my top voting issue. Same with my first time presidential election voting daughter. We showed up and voted last week.

Nice to you know you're raising your daughter in fear of false dilemmas without the critical stamina to understand that women are in far worse danger of subjugation under the regime that is allowing men to invade their spaces, their jobs, their sports. You are not being a good role model for your daughter when you teach her that the most important issue for electing a president is how far along in pregnancy a woman can abort her child. Question: has Harris said how she will overturn the Scotus decision?

What a load of bologna. I am definitely raising my daughters and sons to be able to see through that kind of b*******.

Explain to your sons and daughters the critical importance of reproductive rights and explain to them how to fight and vote to get them.

Why do you keep saying reproductive rights when what you mean is abortion? You can turn yourself inside out all you want, you are still advocating for ending the lives of fetuses. These are not 'clumps of cells.' These are fully-formed, human beings, who, after about 12 weeks, have to be pulled apart and killed in utero.

Ok scoldylocks, I wouldn't even have kids to teach if it wasn't for IVF like millions of other moms. And darling, some of the embryos don't make it when you do IVF.

I've got this issue covered with my kids. I don't need any help from the likes of you.

I'm the PP you're responding to, and I also had my children through IVF--actual IVF, not the IUI, as the Walzes did then lied about. In any event, it is a red herring to talk about "reproductive rights" and you know it. You are not voting about IVF, you are voting about abortion and cannot be honest with yourself. I am fully aware of how IVF works by the way. And you know what else, two of my IVF babies were born at 20 weeks. I held them for the 2 hours they lived and breathed outside of my uterus. Kissed them and told them how much I loved them. Are you the kind of person who calls those "clumps of cells?"

Well then from one IVF mom to another.... I don't know why you don't understand this..... but the destruction of Roe threatens IVF as a fertility treatment. If you want to fully protect access to IVF and some other fertility treatments...And yes also abortion, which is the flip side of fertility treatments, Daniel then we then we need to fight to get back the protections of Roe. Voting for Harris it's the beginning of this process.

Actually, as an"IVF mom" (though, I don't know identify myself that way), I am hopeful that the technology is as close as it sounds to not have to produce and discard embryos. I am a massive hypocrite, because the discarding of embryos bothers me. I did not discard any. We had multiple rounds--as I mentioned, two of them were delivered and died at 20 weeks, and the rest were used in multiple attempts. It would pain me to discard of them. Nonetheless, not a single state has taken a step to ban IVF, so again, red herring.

The technology will NEVER work like you describe. It's based on playing the odds, just like nature is.