Fairfax Murder

[Anonymous]

The fact that he didn’t talk to police till he had a lawyer is not an indication of guilt. In his shoes I would never talk to police till k had a lawyer and neither should denying else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You can’t shoot someone and then stab someone and stage it to seem like the shot guy stabbed. And you can’t stage that the guy you haven’t shot yet stabbed someone. And the person you haven’t shot/stabbed isn’t hanging around waiting for you to finish the other part. It doesn’t make sense. If the husband did it, he would have shot them both.

people attempt to stage murders all the time. If this was open and shut then the case would not be still open. Is it still open? YES there are also two people the Au Pair and the husband, there are two dead people Christine and Joe. It is possible that one person held a gun to Joe while the Christine was murdered then shot and killed Joe. It is possible that one person shot Joe while the other stabbed Christine. If it was clear that Joe had murdered Christine the case would have been closed and announced already. It has not been closed, it's not been announced.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The fact that he didn’t talk to police till he had a lawyer is not an indication of guilt. In his shoes I would never talk to police till k had a lawyer and neither should denying else.

he waited until his wife died in at the hospital, he found out she was still alive after police and rescue arrived, he refused to speak for hours, sounds very guilty me!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact that he didn’t talk to police till he had a lawyer is not an indication of guilt. In his shoes I would never talk to police till k had a lawyer and neither should denying else.

he waited until his wife died in at the hospital, he found out she was still alive after police and rescue arrived, he refused to speak for hours, sounds very guilty me!

Sounds like a smart choice to me! Of course he might be guilty but decision to wait for a lawyer is neither here nor there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can’t shoot someone and then stab someone and stage it to seem like the shot guy stabbed. And you can’t stage that the guy you haven’t shot yet stabbed someone. And the person you haven’t shot/stabbed isn’t hanging around waiting for you to finish the other part. It doesn’t make sense. If the husband did it, he would have shot them both.

people attempt to stage murders all the time. If this was open and shut then the case would not be still open. Is it still open? YES there are also two people the Au Pair and the husband, there are two dead people Christine and Joe. It is possible that one person held a gun to Joe while the Christine was murdered then shot and killed Joe. It is possible that one person shot Joe while the other stabbed Christine. If it was clear that Joe had murdered Christine the case would have been closed and announced already. It has not been closed, it's not been announced.

Agree with this. Many murder cases are closed quickly when there’s obvious evidence. Just scroll through the FCPD blog. This has obviously not been clear cut.

[Anonymous]

Can someone just call and ask if this investigation is still open? They

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone just call and ask if this investigation is still open? They

it is still open, you can likely see online that it is. I do know for sure that it is personally.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, do you mean the Herndon story? This one? https://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2023/02/fairfax-co-police-woman-stabbed-to-death-man-shot-to-death-inside-home/

Super weird. The couple looks so vanilla on FB.

How many times are people going to express surprise that some psychopath put flattering posts of themselves on Facebook.

FB is not people's real life guys. You should know that BY NOW.

(And murderers do not come with warning labels. Which is why our society's default policy should not be, "Let's give everyone a gun, and see who can handle access to a lethal weapon.")

In this case the husband is the gun and weapons owner. Ryan had no criminal record of violence, stalking, sexual violence, or any crimes at all. Rarely do people have a violent breakdown at age 39. No one is lusting after blaming anyone for what they do as consenting adults. The facts seem to be that Ryan was there consensually. I'm not playing sleuth here. I am saying based on what I know I see it as the husband with the knowledge and aid of the Au Pair, I have no idea if they had an affair but I believe the thirteen minute phone call silent phone drop while your wife bleeds out is beyond damning.

I am with you but interested in your thoughts on the husband leaving for work, then coming back when the au pair called him...?

Would you please link the article where it says the husband left for work and then came back?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone just call and ask if this investigation is still open? They

It is open. FFX co posts without fail when its closed and they have not.

https://fcpdnews.wordpress.com/2023/02/25/investigationunderwayafterwomanstabbedmanshotinherndonhome/

[Anonymous]

"The 38-year-old husband was treated at an area hospital for a minor injury to his leg"

Stab?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"The 38-year-old husband was treated at an area hospital for a minor injury to his leg"

Stab?

I guess when you are stabbing your wife and shooting someone you might get a boo boo on your leg.

In several of the police interviews or articles they say the wound was very small or minor.

[Anonymous]

Look it’s possible the husband did but the poster who was friends with the man killed is not convincing me by saying it couldn’t be him because he was a nice guy and loved to have sex. Wtf-he could definitely be a killer! If the husband is guilty I am confident they can charge him eventually. But at this point it seems unseemly to mouth off about based on the fact that the other guy was sex positive or whatever.

[Anonymous]

The other guy just doesn’t seem to have any motive. Possible that the husband got wife to come downstairs to talk, then stabbed her? Then other guy hears her screaming, comes downstairs and is shot when he goes to help her. If husband was injured the wife may have been able to pull the knife away or got hold of a different knife to try to fight back. The au pair may have started to call police when she heard the scuffle, then husband told her to hang up, then she called back after it was all over. That suggests to me she was not in on it, otherwise she would not have dialed 911 at first.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look it’s possible the husband did but the poster who was friends with the man killed is not convincing me by saying it couldn’t be him because he was a nice guy and loved to have sex. Wtf-he could definitely be a killer! If the husband is guilty I am confident they can charge him eventually. But at this point it seems unseemly to mouth off about based on the fact that the other guy was sex positive or whatever.

nobody suggested or said that having a sex positive attitude or life style made you innocent of crimes it just doesn't make you GUILTY of crimes either. Being a nice person and non violent and not having a criminal record at all makes a person less likely of being a violent first time murderer at age 39. Remember this person appears to have had many positive functioning relationships in his life. The crime is an act of passion, that is not typically the casual lover or hook up. It is typically the husband or someone who is severally mentally off, just violent, or has another motive but not a friendly hook up. If people appear to be defending Joe Ryan it's because they do not believe he did it. It isn't just one person on this message board, it appears to be many people that both knew him and just read about the case. Believe whatever you like but many people seem to believe it was the husband and likely had help from the Au Pair who killed both victims Christine and Joe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The other guy just doesn’t seem to have any motive. Possible that the husband got wife to come downstairs to talk, then stabbed her? Then other guy hears her screaming, comes downstairs and is shot when he goes to help her. If husband was injured the wife may have been able to pull the knife away or got hold of a different knife to try to fight back. The au pair may have started to call police when she heard the scuffle, then husband told her to hang up, then she called back after it was all over. That suggests to me she was not in on it, otherwise she would not have dialed 911 at first.

She was found in an upstairs bedroom per police.