TJ Discrimination Case

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Anonymous wrote:^^^ we are not Asian, BTW. But I am no less offended by the bigotry and blatant racism of the current SB. Why they have not all resigned in shame is beyond me.

Really? I think they're great. They are the first school board to fight on behalf of all children to ensure these special programs aren't just limited to wealthy schools where parents buy their children outside enrichment.

It benefits few kids, but they can always count on the stooges thinking a few kids from schools like Poe and Whitman getting into TJ is a major coup. Meanwhile even more of the other schools begin circle the toilet.

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The other counties pay for a number of seats under the new system and have a hard cap. FWIW - Fairfax admits something like 3% of its 8th graders to TJ. Arlington admits about 1%. It is much harder to get in from one of these neighboring counties than it is from Fairfax.

That's fine if it's a hard cap. I read that each Loudoun middle school also gets 1.5% of its eighth graders an automatic seat.

That could be the cap for the Loundoun magnet high schools. I do think Loundoun has a good number of seats at TJ so maybe it is 1.5% for each MS as well.

Loudoun has this minimum for Academies of Loudoun, and also a maximum for each middle school. The top middle schools in Fairfax would have much less admissions to TJ under Loudoun's system.

Despite all the complaints Fairfax really does cater to the UMC families to ensure they get the most out of their enrichment $$$.

Lots of $$$ gets spent on special needs and low income families (Title 1). It just doesn’t produce the same results.

If you looked at the data, even more money being spent on special needs in UMC areas. Almost half the kids in DC's class have some accommodation like extra time for some disability which only a private diagnosis could uncover. In fact, a recent NYT article stated that there's been a 300% increase in these cases in UMC areas over the past decade. Personally, one of DC's friends got this diagnosis just so they could get extra time on their SAT, but as far as I can tell they're a perfectly normal kid.

You have no clue how the kid learns or processes. LDs are hidden disabilities that can cause a ton of issues. They are not cheap to have diagnosed, an eval can cost in the thousands of dollars, so I doubt that there are many parents out “buying a diagnosis” so their kid can have more time to do better on the SAT. And kids who receive accommodations for the SATs, or other tests, have it noted on the test so that the Colleges they are applying to are aware that there was a difference in how the kid took the test.

I am an adult with LDs and ADHD who had accommodations for the SAT and the GRE. You would never tell from looking at me that numbers and letters move for me or that my processing requires verbalization. My SATs ended up in the 1300’s and I had a solid GPA from high school but school was work for me. You would have had no way of knowing any of that looking at me.

UMC parents have more resources to do independent testing. The school won’t test unless your child is failing in school, so parents who notice that there is an issue and want to have it checked out can pay for that testing. And UMC parents tend to be more invested in their kids education and more likely to see that there is an issue and have it investigated. Also, UMC parents are more likely to know the law surrounding kids with LDs,ADHD and other issues are pursue help for their kids then poor families or families new to the US who don’t speak English.

I am sure that there are some unethical hacks out there selling diagnoses, I would guess that the schools know who those people are. I would also guess that there are not too many of them because it is a great way to lose your license and all your income if you are busted.

The cheat is ADHD

It sounds like anyone who says they have problems focusing sometimes has ADHD and qualifies.

that's not how it works.

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The other counties pay for a number of seats under the new system and have a hard cap. FWIW - Fairfax admits something like 3% of its 8th graders to TJ. Arlington admits about 1%. It is much harder to get in from one of these neighboring counties than it is from Fairfax.

That's fine if it's a hard cap. I read that each Loudoun middle school also gets 1.5% of its eighth graders an automatic seat.

That could be the cap for the Loundoun magnet high schools. I do think Loundoun has a good number of seats at TJ so maybe it is 1.5% for each MS as well.

Loudoun has this minimum for Academies of Loudoun, and also a maximum for each middle school. The top middle schools in Fairfax would have much less admissions to TJ under Loudoun's system.

Despite all the complaints Fairfax really does cater to the UMC families to ensure they get the most out of their enrichment $$$.

Lots of $$$ gets spent on special needs and low income families (Title 1). It just doesn’t produce the same results.

If you looked at the data, even more money being spent on special needs in UMC areas. Almost half the kids in DC's class have some accommodation like extra time for some disability which only a private diagnosis could uncover. In fact, a recent NYT article stated that there's been a 300% increase in these cases in UMC areas over the past decade. Personally, one of DC's friends got this diagnosis just so they could get extra time on their SAT, but as far as I can tell they're a perfectly normal kid.

You have no clue how the kid learns or processes. LDs are hidden disabilities that can cause a ton of issues. They are not cheap to have diagnosed, an eval can cost in the thousands of dollars, so I doubt that there are many parents out “buying a diagnosis” so their kid can have more time to do better on the SAT. And kids who receive accommodations for the SATs, or other tests, have it noted on the test so that the Colleges they are applying to are aware that there was a difference in how the kid took the test.

I am an adult with LDs and ADHD who had accommodations for the SAT and the GRE. You would never tell from looking at me that numbers and letters move for me or that my processing requires verbalization. My SATs ended up in the 1300’s and I had a solid GPA from high school but school was work for me. You would have had no way of knowing any of that looking at me.

UMC parents have more resources to do independent testing. The school won’t test unless your child is failing in school, so parents who notice that there is an issue and want to have it checked out can pay for that testing. And UMC parents tend to be more invested in their kids education and more likely to see that there is an issue and have it investigated. Also, UMC parents are more likely to know the law surrounding kids with LDs,ADHD and other issues are pursue help for their kids then poor families or families new to the US who don’t speak English.

I am sure that there are some unethical hacks out there selling diagnoses, I would guess that the schools know who those people are. I would also guess that there are not too many of them because it is a great way to lose your license and all your income if you are busted.

The cheat is ADHD

It sounds like anyone who says they have problems focusing sometimes has ADHD and qualifies.

that's not how it works.

Let me rephrase that then, anyone who has problems focusing (or just isn't very bright) but can afford a private diagnosis,

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ we are not Asian, BTW. But I am no less offended by the bigotry and blatant racism of the current SB. Why they have not all resigned in shame is beyond me.

Really? I think they're great. They are the first school board to fight on behalf of all children to ensure these special programs aren't just limited to wealthy schools where parents buy their children outside enrichment.

Although that may be true, many posters preferred the old system where they could buy their way into TJ.

$8

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All I know is that the URM lady who works as an admin assistant at my wife's company with an IQ of like 90 now has a daughter at TJ so we know the new system is doing too well lol

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Anonymous wrote:All I know is that the URM lady who works as an admin assistant at my wife's company with an IQ of like 90 now has a daughter at TJ so we know the new system is doing too well lol

There are some many things wrong with this post I can't even...

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Anonymous wrote:All I know is that the URM lady who works as an admin assistant at my wife's company with an IQ of like 90 now has a daughter at TJ so we know the new system is doing too well lol

There are some many things wrong with this post I can't even...

It helps them feel less bitter by talking made-up trash who cares. I know it's frustrating for a lot of parents since the new system is harder to game, and they need to vent somewhere.

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The other counties pay for a number of seats under the new system and have a hard cap. FWIW - Fairfax admits something like 3% of its 8th graders to TJ. Arlington admits about 1%. It is much harder to get in from one of these neighboring counties than it is from Fairfax.

That's fine if it's a hard cap. I read that each Loudoun middle school also gets 1.5% of its eighth graders an automatic seat.

That could be the cap for the Loundoun magnet high schools. I do think Loundoun has a good number of seats at TJ so maybe it is 1.5% for each MS as well.

Loudoun has this minimum for Academies of Loudoun, and also a maximum for each middle school. The top middle schools in Fairfax would have much less admissions to TJ under Loudoun's system.

Despite all the complaints Fairfax really does cater to the UMC families to ensure they get the most out of their enrichment $$$.

Lots of $$$ gets spent on special needs and low income families (Title 1). It just doesn’t produce the same results.

If you looked at the data, even more money being spent on special needs in UMC areas. Almost half the kids in DC's class have some accommodation like extra time for some disability which only a private diagnosis could uncover. In fact, a recent NYT article stated that there's been a 300% increase in these cases in UMC areas over the past decade. Personally, one of DC's friends got this diagnosis just so they could get extra time on their SAT, but as far as I can tell they're a perfectly normal kid.

You have no clue how the kid learns or processes. LDs are hidden disabilities that can cause a ton of issues. They are not cheap to have diagnosed, an eval can cost in the thousands of dollars, so I doubt that there are many parents out “buying a diagnosis” so their kid can have more time to do better on the SAT. And kids who receive accommodations for the SATs, or other tests, have it noted on the test so that the Colleges they are applying to are aware that there was a difference in how the kid took the test.

I am an adult with LDs and ADHD who had accommodations for the SAT and the GRE. You would never tell from looking at me that numbers and letters move for me or that my processing requires verbalization. My SATs ended up in the 1300’s and I had a solid GPA from high school but school was work for me. You would have had no way of knowing any of that looking at me.

UMC parents have more resources to do independent testing. The school won’t test unless your child is failing in school, so parents who notice that there is an issue and want to have it checked out can pay for that testing. And UMC parents tend to be more invested in their kids education and more likely to see that there is an issue and have it investigated. Also, UMC parents are more likely to know the law surrounding kids with LDs,ADHD and other issues are pursue help for their kids then poor families or families new to the US who don’t speak English.

I am sure that there are some unethical hacks out there selling diagnoses, I would guess that the schools know who those people are. I would also guess that there are not too many of them because it is a great way to lose your license and all your income if you are busted.

The cheat is ADHD

It sounds like anyone who says they have problems focusing sometimes has ADHD and qualifies.

that's not how it works.

Let me rephrase that then, anyone who has problems focusing (or just isn't very bright) but can afford a private diagnosis,

+100

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All I know is that the URM lady who works as an admin assistant at my wife's company with an IQ of like 90 now has a daughter at TJ so we know the new system is doing too well lol

There are some many things wrong with this post I can't even...

It helps them feel less bitter by talking made-up trash who cares. I know it's frustrating for a lot of parents since the new system is harder to game, and they need to vent somewhere.

Actually, the new system is easier to game.

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Anonymous wrote:All I know is that the URM lady who works as an admin assistant at my wife's company with an IQ of like 90 now has a daughter at TJ so we know the new system is doing too well lol

There are some many things wrong with this post I can't even...

It helps them feel less bitter by talking made-up trash who cares. I know it's frustrating for a lot of parents since the new system is harder to game, and they need to vent somewhere.

Actually, the new system is easier to game.

Well, you used to be able to buy the test answers so it was easier for people with money.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All I know is that the URM lady who works as an admin assistant at my wife's company with an IQ of like 90 now has a daughter at TJ so we know the new system is doing too well lol

There are some many things wrong with this post I can't even...

It helps them feel less bitter by talking made-up trash who cares. I know it's frustrating for a lot of parents since the new system is harder to game, and they need to vent somewhere.

Actually, the new system is easier to game.

Well, you used to be able to buy the test answers so it was easier for people with money.

Where did you buy your answers?

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Anonymous wrote:All I know is that the URM lady who works as an admin assistant at my wife's company with an IQ of like 90 now has a daughter at TJ so we know the new system is doing too well lol

There are some many things wrong with this post I can't even...

It helps them feel less bitter by talking made-up trash who cares. I know it's frustrating for a lot of parents since the new system is harder to game, and they need to vent somewhere.

Actually, the new system is easier to game.

Well, you used to be able to buy the test answers so it was easier for people with money.

Where did you buy your answers?

The prep centers were conducting exit interviews on students who had taken the test. This allowed them to compile question banks. Many of these questions would show up in subsequent years. It wasn't really a big secret. Everyone knew it was going on. How do you think one prep center got 30% of those admitted in one year? Do you think it was talent? LOLOL

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Anonymous wrote:All I know is that the URM lady who works as an admin assistant at my wife's company with an IQ of like 90 now has a daughter at TJ so we know the new system is doing too well lol

There are some many things wrong with this post I can't even...

It helps them feel less bitter by talking made-up trash who cares. I know it's frustrating for a lot of parents since the new system is harder to game, and they need to vent somewhere.

Actually, the new system is easier to game.

Well, you used to be able to buy the test answers so it was easier for people with money.

Where did you buy your answers?

The prep centers were conducting exit interviews on students who had taken the test. This allowed them to compile question banks. Many of these questions would show up in subsequent years. It wasn't really a big secret. Everyone knew it was going on. How do you think one prep center got 30% of those admitted in one year? Do you think it was talent? LOLOL

#veryfakenews

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ we are not Asian, BTW. But I am no less offended by the bigotry and blatant racism of the current SB. Why they have not all resigned in shame is beyond me.

Really? I think they're great. They are the first school board to fight on behalf of all children to ensure these special programs aren't just limited to wealthy schools where parents buy their children outside enrichment.

Although that may be true, many posters preferred the old system where they could buy their way into TJ.

$8

lol

[Anonymous]

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The prep centers were conducting exit interviews on students who had taken the test. This allowed them to compile question banks.

There is no evidence for this, just you guessing that's how the prep center did it. Perhaps they actually acquired tests directly.

Why are you making up 'facts'.