Billionaire heiress abducted during her Friday morning run in Memphis

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Well, I hope she is found alive. Thoughts and Prayers. USA is a very dangerous place for women and school children. I feel so bad for her children and her family.

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Can people start being careful and cautious, please? USA is a dangerous place. Don't do stupid things like go for jogs solo.

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So....have a load of octogenarians infiltrated DCUM? Because all this stuff about "OMG he had tattoos" and "I can't believe he LET her run at 4am" and "Why didn't they live in a nicer house" reeks of the sort of shit old grannies would be talking about.

*Also a bunch of loser middle class housewives making stuff up about debutantes and country clubs and all sorts of other "upper class" stuff is just freaking hilarious!!!

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Anonymous wrote:What is going on? Sounds like a nasty POS criminal is responsible for this. Does it matter if the husband had tattoos, was or wasn’t employed, or even was or wasn’t an addict. Seems he had nothing to do with this so let’s not tear apart the poor man dealing with an awful situation.

Watch this 60 clip with the sound off.

What is the inference regarding his body language? Yes, he touches his face 6 or 7 times in 60 seconds. Does that infer a guilty conscience or just that he might be on drugs?

I’m not saying he did it (have no idea), but in forensic psychology terms, it’s often an indicator of guilt.

Maybe he felt guilty over not dissuading her from running at 4am in a dangerous town.

Just a guess

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Anonymous wrote:I thought Memphis was a really violent and poor town? They live in Memphis proper? Is there like a historic mansion ritzy sliver of town rich people still live in?

Public record shows they paid $600k for a charming 3k sq/ft cape cod style home a couple years ago. Pretty big money for Memphis. And not a home you can afford on just a pre-k teacher’s salary. Near the university and a couple golf courses, which seems like the concentrated pocket of wealth for the otherwise downtrodden city.

It’s really not. A simple Zillow search will show you hundreds of houses that sold for more (in many cases, much more) than $600k in the area immediately surrounding the University of Memphis in the past couple of years.

In what world is a $600k house big money? It doesn't seem like she had access to the family wealth, at least not much of it. She was the granddaughter - might have gotten caught up with the older gen and not trickled down to her.

In most of the U.S. Step outside your ultra privileged bubble once in a while.

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Anonymous wrote:Within Tennessee, more than 100% of the communities have a lower crime rate than Memphis. In fact, after researching dangerous places to live, NeighborhoodScout found Memphis to be one of the top 100 most dangerous cities in the U.S.A.

My oldest son works in logistics and they advise truckers not to stop in Memphis. It’s THAT bad.

NP - I really had no idea, wow. Is it mostly property crime, or violent crime? (Or both?) And why there ?

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Anonymous wrote:1. k-12 at Hutchison: $300k
2. bachelor's at Baylor: $250k
3. master's at Belmont: $100k

A Southern elite with $650k+ in private education and she's only a pre-K "teacher" at age 34? Anyone in education knows pre-K isn't actually a teacher and you certainly don't need $650k in credentials to do it. Something very odd about all of this, especially how a gal like this even lets a man like him orbit her.

Whether she's a preK or kindergarten teacher (I've heard both), i cannot believe you made such a critical condescending comment. We should be glad to have and encourage well-educated teachers at all grade levels. If she doesn't need a high-paying job, what's it to you? Many people love teaching young children.

She presumably didn’t meet her husband until her late 20s and didn’t have children until around age 30. So she’s been a pre-K teacher for 10 years (since age 23 or 24 after getting her master’s in Nashville), well before marriage and kids came into the picture, and hasn’t advanced? It’s a bit strange.

hardly. princess diana was a preschool teacher aide before marrying. definitely one of the paths of young women w/established family money who are basically waiting to get married.

You proved my point. Diana was a teenage pre-k teacher. Diana married at year 20. This year 34 gal has elite diploma, bachelor’s and master’s degrees, and she’s doing a job she’s overqualified for.

I’m about to blow your mind. Some people WANT to be preschool teachers. They don’t WANT to “advance beyond it.” And when they have family money, they can do what they want.

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Anonymous wrote:So far, from the lovely people on this thread, we’ve learned that the victim was:

1) A slutty slutterson who doesn’t even wear her full red gown and white wimple while running

2) A wrinkled crone who is aging too quickly

3) An over-exaggerating smiler

4) A teacher but probably a lazy trust fund teacher who is taking a job from someone who really needs it but who is also lazy but also she shouldn’t be working

5) A selfish, slutty, stupid athlete who runs at the wrong time of day but also doesn’t even run fast enough to run away from someone who surprised her, maybe with a weapon, like geez girl why couldn’t you outsprint him

6) On drugs herself. We’re just guessing, but maybe probably

Good thing when bad things happen, angels among us swoop in to help. Y’all are like those helpers that Mr. Rogers always told us to look for in a bad situation.

No one called her a “slut” except you. Weirdo.

I don’t think anyone criticized her attire; perfectly acceptable for running in the summer in the South. There were legitimate other concerns expressed in this thread - time of day, level of crime in Memphis, husband’s checkered past, etc.

One obnoxious old schoolmarm early in the thread bleated about how she iNcReAsEd hEr rIsK by wearing summer appropriate running clothes in the hot as hell South, but somehow PP has generalized it beyond that, because they’re not very bright.

It was hot as hell at 4:30 am? Ok.

Yes. Do you not understand humidity in Tennessee? It is never “cool” this time of year, even in the middle of the night, and certainly not when you’re distance running. Duh.

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Anonymous wrote:1. k-12 at Hutchison: $300k
2. bachelor's at Baylor: $250k
3. master's at Belmont: $100k

A Southern elite with $650k+ in private education and she's only a pre-K "teacher" at age 34? Anyone in education knows pre-K isn't actually a teacher and you certainly don't need $650k in credentials to do it. Something very odd about all of this, especially how a gal like this even lets a man like him orbit her.

Whether she's a preK or kindergarten teacher (I've heard both), i cannot believe you made such a critical condescending comment. We should be glad to have and encourage well-educated teachers at all grade levels. If she doesn't need a high-paying job, what's it to you? Many people love teaching young children.

She presumably didn’t meet her husband until her late 20s and didn’t have children until around age 30. So she’s been a pre-K teacher for 10 years (since age 23 or 24 after getting her master’s in Nashville), well before marriage and kids came into the picture, and hasn’t advanced? It’s a bit strange.

hardly. princess diana was a preschool teacher aide before marrying. definitely one of the paths of young women w/established family money who are basically waiting to get married.

You proved my point. Diana was a teenage pre-k teacher. Diana married at year 20. This year 34 gal has elite diploma, bachelor’s and master’s degrees, and she’s doing a job she’s overqualified for.

Maybe she likes the job? If she was happy why did she have to chase the paycheck?

Sure. Or maybe there’s some there there. All of the pre-k teachers I know are fresh out of undergrad and do it for a year or two.

And those i know make a career out of it and don’t do it for the money because they are already wealthy. They like the hours and like kids. Imagine that.

I know two preschool teachers old enough to collect Social Security. They continue to teach because they love the kids and helping them learn and prepare for kindergarten. PP is ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:So far, from the lovely people on this thread, we’ve learned that the victim was:

1) A slutty slutterson who doesn’t even wear her full red gown and white wimple while running

2) A wrinkled crone who is aging too quickly

3) An over-exaggerating smiler

4) A teacher but probably a lazy trust fund teacher who is taking a job from someone who really needs it but who is also lazy but also she shouldn’t be working

5) A selfish, slutty, stupid athlete who runs at the wrong time of day but also doesn’t even run fast enough to run away from someone who surprised her, maybe with a weapon, like geez girl why couldn’t you outsprint him

6) On drugs herself. We’re just guessing, but maybe probably

Good thing when bad things happen, angels among us swoop in to help. Y’all are like those helpers that Mr. Rogers always told us to look for in a bad situation.

No one called her a “slut” except you. Weirdo.

I don’t think anyone criticized her attire; perfectly acceptable for running in the summer in the South. There were legitimate other concerns expressed in this thread - time of day, level of crime in Memphis, husband’s checkered past, etc.

One obnoxious old schoolmarm early in the thread bleated about how she iNcReAsEd hEr rIsK by wearing summer appropriate running clothes in the hot as hell South, but somehow PP has generalized it beyond that, because they’re not very bright.

It was hot as hell at 4:30 am? Ok.

Yes. Do you not understand humidity in Tennessee? It is never “cool” this time of year, even in the middle of the night, and certainly not when you’re distance running. Duh.

If only they lived next to a D1 university with a nine-figure Nike deal and world class indoor athletic training facilities…

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Anonymous wrote:Oh no, I didn't realize that the fact that my husband's tattoos make him a criminal!! Thank you DCUM for letting me know!!!

DCUM hates tattoos. Not “classy.”

It's not just the tattoos and it's not like he has just one inconspicuous tattoo. He has very sketchy sleeve tattoos, tattoos on his knee and calve, on his chest, even on his hands. And he's an admitted substance abuser. And he looks disheveled.

DP. I don’t have any tattoos. Not into them at all. But I rarely see people under the age of 35 who don’t have them these days. Like all over their bodies. In no way is this an indication of propensity for crime.

B.S. Note she has none or at least none visible. I assure you there were plenty of eligible bachelor's at whatever country club she grew up in, private school, Baylor, Belmont, and in her church and marathon orbits who also didn't have their bodies covered in sketchy tattoos.

But clearly, she, unlike you, was not a snob and didn’t care about his tattoos, so not sure why you continue to perseverate about it.

Yes, she clearly had poor judgment. Maybe she should have. Because a husband with a spec of class and IQ wouldn’t let his wife run around that hellish town at 4AM.

“There have been at least 100 incidents classified as kidnapping in Memphis this year, according to public safety data posted on the city's website."

So you’re doubling down on “snob.” Huh. Interesting choice.

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Anonymous wrote:Folks getting irritated at the husband "letting" her run at 4am in one of the most lawless towns in the U.S. is interesting. Is it okay for your husband to go have beers for an hour after work and drive home? Is it okay for him to skydive every weekend? Or maybe take up bullriding? Of course not. You'd push back on all of that because you're his wife, he's the father of your children. Just as this "man" should have pushed back on her nutty 4am running routine. At the very least, he's clearly no southern gentleman, that's for sure.

What a fool.

Of course he should have supported her in her effort to prepare for running marathons and wear whatever she wanted to wear and then had some heart-to-heart discussions with her on what would be most reasonable for their family. Folks are inarticulately in saying that what a husband worth his salt should have done was not "allow" or "let" her run alone during those early morning hours was that he should have helped her figure out how to accommodate her desire to have long runs within their family's schedule and in a safe and prudent way. If that meant discussing hiring a baby sitter for when she got off of work or hiring a cook to prepare dinner, or hiring a baby sitter for the evening hours so that he could drive along her running route, then that is what one does to keep a loved one safe.

It’s Memphis in the summer. It’s hot as hell and even more humid. Early morning is by far the coolest time to run. “When she got off work” it would be blazing, and it barely cools down at all in the “evenings” until late at night. Just stop.

If only she could afford a treadmill or an athletic club membership with an indoor track. You’re right, she HAD to run around by herself at 4am in the most dangerous and unpredictable town in America.

Marathon runners don’t train on flat, climate controlled indoor tracks and certainly not on treadmills. You have NO idea whatsoever what you’re talking about. Just take the L and move on.

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Anonymous wrote:Within Tennessee, more than 100% of the communities have a lower crime rate than Memphis. In fact, after researching dangerous places to live, NeighborhoodScout found Memphis to be one of the top 100 most dangerous cities in the U.S.A.

My oldest son works in logistics and they advise truckers not to stop in Memphis. It’s THAT bad.

NP - I really had no idea, wow. Is it mostly property crime, or violent crime? (Or both?) And why there ?

Here are a few crime stats for Memphis in 2021:
1. Ranked the No. 1 most dangerous city in US
2. Ranked 2nd highest homicide rate in any US metro area
3. Memphis violent crime was 237% higher than the national average
4. Violent crimes in Memphis are 506% higher than the national average
5. Nearly 250 murders, half unsolved

Husband is a real gentleman for letting his wife run around such a town solo at 4 a.m.

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Anonymous wrote:Within Tennessee, more than 100% of the communities have a lower crime rate than Memphis. In fact, after researching dangerous places to live, NeighborhoodScout found Memphis to be one of the top 100 most dangerous cities in the U.S.A.

My oldest son works in logistics and they advise truckers not to stop in Memphis. It’s THAT bad.

NP - I really had no idea, wow. Is it mostly property crime, or violent crime? (Or both?) And why there ?

Here are a few crime stats for Memphis in 2021:
1. Ranked the No. 1 most dangerous city in US
2. Ranked 2nd highest homicide rate in any US metro area
3. Memphis violent crime was 237% higher than the national average
4. Violent crimes in Memphis are 506% higher than the national average
5. Nearly 250 murders, half unsolved

Husband is a real gentleman for letting his wife run around such a town solo at 4 a.m.

Does your husband give you permission to be on message boards writing nonsense at such a late hour?

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Anonymous wrote:So far, from the lovely people on this thread, we’ve learned that the victim was:

1) A slutty slutterson who doesn’t even wear her full red gown and white wimple while running

2) A wrinkled crone who is aging too quickly

3) An over-exaggerating smiler

4) A teacher but probably a lazy trust fund teacher who is taking a job from someone who really needs it but who is also lazy but also she shouldn’t be working

5) A selfish, slutty, stupid athlete who runs at the wrong time of day but also doesn’t even run fast enough to run away from someone who surprised her, maybe with a weapon, like geez girl why couldn’t you outsprint him

6) On drugs herself. We’re just guessing, but maybe probably

Good thing when bad things happen, angels among us swoop in to help. Y’all are like those helpers that Mr. Rogers always told us to look for in a bad situation.

No one called her a “slut” except you. Weirdo.

I don’t think anyone criticized her attire; perfectly acceptable for running in the summer in the South. There were legitimate other concerns expressed in this thread - time of day, level of crime in Memphis, husband’s checkered past, etc.

One obnoxious old schoolmarm early in the thread bleated about how she iNcReAsEd hEr rIsK by wearing summer appropriate running clothes in the hot as hell South, but somehow PP has generalized it beyond that, because they’re not very bright.

It was hot as hell at 4:30 am? Ok.

Yes. Do you not understand humidity in Tennessee? It is never “cool” this time of year, even in the middle of the night, and certainly not when you’re distance running. Duh.

If only they lived next to a D1 university with a nine-figure Nike deal and world class indoor athletic training facilities…

Thanks for letting us know you know nothing about how distance runners train (pro tip: it’s not indoors on flat tracks in the air conditioning).