Hayfield Football Coach Fired

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:What we have here is a mini culture war among those involved with high school football, but this same thing can happen in other situations where DEI goes wild. On the one hand, there is the "Traditional" view of High School football:
(1) Local guys in the high school (ONLY, with just a few allowable exceptions) turn out for the team.
(2) These are local "student-athletes" so they must keep their grades up or cannot participate.
(3) The local band, cheerleaders, parents, booster club, etc. support the team and vice versa, in the name of "school spirit" of friendly rivalry with the other schools in their district.

Unfortunately, this traditional view, which was universal among high school and colleges at one time, has been severely eroded what with active recruiting, big money from TV deals and recently NIT, as well as legalization of gambling. Fairfax County seems to be one of few bastions of this traditional view, while other districts in the state, private/parochial schools, and colleges have been corrupted to treat the program the same as professional football.

The other view is that of the Football Fanatic:
(1) High school football (as with the pros) should have the goal of gathering the best team for that high school the same way as the pros do by recruiting the best talent possible from ANYWHERE.
(2) Emphasis is strictly on football--academics be damned.
(3) This group completely eschews the traditional view, and demands that their view is the only one.

When DEI gets involved, this allows for the unscrupulous (such as group around Coach Overton) to "groom" an eminently Black (with perhaps few Hispanic) group of students with the lofty goal of making sure that they get football college scholarships---that as minorities they would never have gotten, by any means at the expense of all of the other football players at the school, i.e., completely unfair and unethical. The corruptive grooming starts at an early age with Club football starting at the early age of 8-10. Then there is the monetary corruption with high fees for Club sports, questionable fund-rasing by Boosters at the high school level (The Karen religious nutcase), questionable fees to high school players, and illegal use of school facilities for club sports. In the Hayfield situation the Football Fanatic pardigm (with all its ethical and financial corruption) becomes essentially "Ghetto"

In the Hayfield case the Footbal Fanatics yell racism due to white supremacy of the football program in Fairfax County, but this is NOT true, e.g. the original whistleblower was a black woman and her football player son at Hayfield. The Hayfield fanatics are the racist ones for blaming everything on white supremacy---classic case of the "pot calling the kettle black" (the pun on black is ironic!)

This situation was not "nipped in the bud" by Supt and School Board back in spring 2024 (whistleblower) due to a misplaced concern for "equity" by the Supt. She even stated in August that the internal investigation did not find Hayfield to be doing offensive recruiting nor other violations. I think it was the black asst superintendent that was really responsible for that investigation, with the Supt just rubber-stamping it. However, it was completely obvious by Nov to the VHSL that ethics had been violated when (1) Hayfield "whupped asses" of all other Fairfax teams with lopsided scores, (2) demise of football at Overton's previous Freedom High in Prince William Co, (3) local Hayfield players being replaced by the transfers---hence the ban on playoffs. THe School Board was equally complacent by ignoring the whole thing (in spite of 3 members calling for an external investigation back in August when Supt made her statement). Hayfield parents made last ditch effort with injunction allowing them to play first playoff game. The the final straw (at least made public) was the Fritz scandal.

Typical white supremacist jargon above. Stick a Black face on it, pretend she was the one responsible, and claim it can’t be racism.

The Black woman they are talking about had no power to do this. We’ve heard about other coaches organizing, complaining, and making racist statements about Hayfield. Parents at Madison, Lake Braddock, west Springfield, Chantilly, and etc were upset and complaining after getting blown out.

Then there is this racist and ambitious LBGTB school board member has jumped on the story to gain political momentum at the expense of the Hayfield students. We have VHSL representatives from historically racist areas that barred Hayfield. There is racism all over this story.

I do think Reid made the right decision to withdraw Hayfield because it’s just gotten to be too much. Especially with the text messages. The outsiders just wouldn’t let the kids play. But it’s disingenuous to pretend some disgruntled Black parent is the one who shut the Hayfield football program down this season.

False claims of racism AND homophobia all in one comment! You also inadvertently dragged yourself: "The outsiders just wouldn’t let the kids play." Yup, that's exactly what the Hayfraud transfers did. Man you are stupid. This is so on-brand for the Hayfraud crowd.

If I was one of those coaches just slandered, I'd be calling a lawyer and subpoening the info here. Idiots forget that ip addresses are logged.

Yet again you drag yourself. I am dying to know where you got your law degree from after that dumpster fire of a post.

Man oh man you are the walking punchline to a joke...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Madison put up a fight, but came up short. Would Hayfield have had a better chance of winning the championship?

Perhaps they would have. But they had zero chance of earning the championship. Cheaters never earn anything, not that the Hayfraud supporters understand that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Madison put up a fight, but came up short. Would Hayfield have had a better chance of winning the championship?

Perhaps they would have. But they had zero chance of earning the championship. Cheaters never earn anything, not that the Hayfraud supporters understand that.

That’s not true. We’ve have cheaters win the highest accomplishments, even a US Presidency.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Madison put up a fight, but came up short. Would Hayfield have had a better chance of winning the championship?

They weren't a real team so its not relevant

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What we have here is a mini culture war among those involved with high school football, but this same thing can happen in other situations where DEI goes wild. On the one hand, there is the "Traditional" view of High School football:
(1) Local guys in the high school (ONLY, with just a few allowable exceptions) turn out for the team.
(2) These are local "student-athletes" so they must keep their grades up or cannot participate.
(3) The local band, cheerleaders, parents, booster club, etc. support the team and vice versa, in the name of "school spirit" of friendly rivalry with the other schools in their district.

Unfortunately, this traditional view, which was universal among high school and colleges at one time, has been severely eroded what with active recruiting, big money from TV deals and recently NIT, as well as legalization of gambling. Fairfax County seems to be one of few bastions of this traditional view, while other districts in the state, private/parochial schools, and colleges have been corrupted to treat the program the same as professional football.

The other view is that of the Football Fanatic:
(1) High school football (as with the pros) should have the goal of gathering the best team for that high school the same way as the pros do by recruiting the best talent possible from ANYWHERE.
(2) Emphasis is strictly on football--academics be damned.
(3) This group completely eschews the traditional view, and demands that their view is the only one.

When DEI gets involved, this allows for the unscrupulous (such as group around Coach Overton) to "groom" an eminently Black (with perhaps few Hispanic) group of students with the lofty goal of making sure that they get football college scholarships---that as minorities they would never have gotten, by any means at the expense of all of the other football players at the school, i.e., completely unfair and unethical. The corruptive grooming starts at an early age with Club football starting at the early age of 8-10. Then there is the monetary corruption with high fees for Club sports, questionable fund-rasing by Boosters at the high school level (The Karen religious nutcase), questionable fees to high school players, and illegal use of school facilities for club sports. In the Hayfield situation the Football Fanatic pardigm (with all its ethical and financial corruption) becomes essentially "Ghetto"

In the Hayfield case the Footbal Fanatics yell racism due to white supremacy of the football program in Fairfax County, but this is NOT true, e.g. the original whistleblower was a black woman and her football player son at Hayfield. The Hayfield fanatics are the racist ones for blaming everything on white supremacy---classic case of the "pot calling the kettle black" (the pun on black is ironic!)

This situation was not "nipped in the bud" by Supt and School Board back in spring 2024 (whistleblower) due to a misplaced concern for "equity" by the Supt. She even stated in August that the internal investigation did not find Hayfield to be doing offensive recruiting nor other violations. I think it was the black asst superintendent that was really responsible for that investigation, with the Supt just rubber-stamping it. However, it was completely obvious by Nov to the VHSL that ethics had been violated when (1) Hayfield "whupped asses" of all other Fairfax teams with lopsided scores, (2) demise of football at Overton's previous Freedom High in Prince William Co, (3) local Hayfield players being replaced by the transfers---hence the ban on playoffs. THe School Board was equally complacent by ignoring the whole thing (in spite of 3 members calling for an external investigation back in August when Supt made her statement). Hayfield parents made last ditch effort with injunction allowing them to play first playoff game. The the final straw (at least made public) was the Fritz scandal.

Typical white supremacist jargon above. Stick a Black face on it, pretend she was the one responsible, and claim it can’t be racism.

The Black woman they are talking about had no power to do this. We’ve heard about other coaches organizing, complaining, and making racist statements about Hayfield. Parents at Madison, Lake Braddock, west Springfield, Chantilly, and etc were upset and complaining after getting blown out.

Then there is this racist and ambitious LBGTB school board member has jumped on the story to gain political momentum at the expense of the Hayfield students. We have VHSL representatives from historically racist areas that barred Hayfield. There is racism all over this story.

I do think Reid made the right decision to withdraw Hayfield because it’s just gotten to be too much. Especially with the text messages. The outsiders just wouldn’t let the kids play. But it’s disingenuous to pretend some disgruntled Black parent is the one who shut the Hayfield football program down this season.

LBGTB…😂🤣😂

Or whatever you are calling the Dunn’s lifestyle. Doubt he was a football player or anytype of athlete. He doesn’t seem like to type be interested in sports at all, but is so outspoken on how things should be.

He doesn’t know sports, he just knows how to pander to a white supremacist.

Welp, we know your lifestyle just by reading your comments: LSFBT. Lame Shit-For-Brains Twit

The insults are unnecessary. We are better than that people.

Oh…I’m sorry. Just got caught up in the general tone of the other comments in this thread….. I couldn’t resist
It’s hard when stupid people leave themselves so wide open. Now, ya’ gotta admit that my insult was creative and kinda’ funny🤷🏼

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Madison put up a fight, but came up short. Would Hayfield have had a better chance of winning the championship?

Perhaps they would have. But they had zero chance of earning the championship. Cheaters never earn anything, not that the Hayfraud supporters understand that.

That’s not true. We’ve have cheaters win the highest accomplishments, even a US Presidency.

+10000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Madison put up a fight, but came up short. Would Hayfield have had a better chance of winning the championship?

Perhaps they would have. But they had zero chance of earning the championship. Cheaters never earn anything, not that the Hayfraud supporters understand that.

That’s not true. We’ve have cheaters win the highest accomplishments, even a US Presidency.

Yikes. Yet another person with garbage reading comprehension skills. There is a difference in meaning between the words "earn" and "win." I have to assume you are a relative of Overton based on your comment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What we have here is a mini culture war among those involved with high school football, but this same thing can happen in other situations where DEI goes wild. On the one hand, there is the "Traditional" view of High School football:
(1) Local guys in the high school (ONLY, with just a few allowable exceptions) turn out for the team.
(2) These are local "student-athletes" so they must keep their grades up or cannot participate.
(3) The local band, cheerleaders, parents, booster club, etc. support the team and vice versa, in the name of "school spirit" of friendly rivalry with the other schools in their district.

Unfortunately, this traditional view, which was universal among high school and colleges at one time, has been severely eroded what with active recruiting, big money from TV deals and recently NIT, as well as legalization of gambling. Fairfax County seems to be one of few bastions of this traditional view, while other districts in the state, private/parochial schools, and colleges have been corrupted to treat the program the same as professional football.

The other view is that of the Football Fanatic:
(1) High school football (as with the pros) should have the goal of gathering the best team for that high school the same way as the pros do by recruiting the best talent possible from ANYWHERE.
(2) Emphasis is strictly on football--academics be damned.
(3) This group completely eschews the traditional view, and demands that their view is the only one.

When DEI gets involved, this allows for the unscrupulous (such as group around Coach Overton) to "groom" an eminently Black (with perhaps few Hispanic) group of students with the lofty goal of making sure that they get football college scholarships---that as minorities they would never have gotten, by any means at the expense of all of the other football players at the school, i.e., completely unfair and unethical. The corruptive grooming starts at an early age with Club football starting at the early age of 8-10. Then there is the monetary corruption with high fees for Club sports, questionable fund-rasing by Boosters at the high school level (The Karen religious nutcase), questionable fees to high school players, and illegal use of school facilities for club sports. In the Hayfield situation the Football Fanatic pardigm (with all its ethical and financial corruption) becomes essentially "Ghetto"

In the Hayfield case the Footbal Fanatics yell racism due to white supremacy of the football program in Fairfax County, but this is NOT true, e.g. the original whistleblower was a black woman and her football player son at Hayfield. The Hayfield fanatics are the racist ones for blaming everything on white supremacy---classic case of the "pot calling the kettle black" (the pun on black is ironic!)

This situation was not "nipped in the bud" by Supt and School Board back in spring 2024 (whistleblower) due to a misplaced concern for "equity" by the Supt. She even stated in August that the internal investigation did not find Hayfield to be doing offensive recruiting nor other violations. I think it was the black asst superintendent that was really responsible for that investigation, with the Supt just rubber-stamping it. However, it was completely obvious by Nov to the VHSL that ethics had been violated when (1) Hayfield "whupped asses" of all other Fairfax teams with lopsided scores, (2) demise of football at Overton's previous Freedom High in Prince William Co, (3) local Hayfield players being replaced by the transfers---hence the ban on playoffs. THe School Board was equally complacent by ignoring the whole thing (in spite of 3 members calling for an external investigation back in August when Supt made her statement). Hayfield parents made last ditch effort with injunction allowing them to play first playoff game. The the final straw (at least made public) was the Fritz scandal.

Typical white supremacist jargon above. Stick a Black face on it, pretend she was the one responsible, and claim it can’t be racism.

The Black woman they are talking about had no power to do this. We’ve heard about other coaches organizing, complaining, and making racist statements about Hayfield. Parents at Madison, Lake Braddock, west Springfield, Chantilly, and etc were upset and complaining after getting blown out.

Then there is this racist and ambitious LBGTB school board member has jumped on the story to gain political momentum at the expense of the Hayfield students. We have VHSL representatives from historically racist areas that barred Hayfield. There is racism all over this story.

I do think Reid made the right decision to withdraw Hayfield because it’s just gotten to be too much. Especially with the text messages. The outsiders just wouldn’t let the kids play. But it’s disingenuous to pretend some disgruntled Black parent is the one who shut the Hayfield football program down this season.

LBGTB…😂🤣😂

Or whatever you are calling the Dunn’s lifestyle. Doubt he was a football player or anytype of athlete. He doesn’t seem like to type be interested in sports at all, but is so outspoken on how things should be.

He doesn’t know sports, he just knows how to pander to a white supremacist.

Welp, we know your lifestyle just by reading your comments: LSFBT. Lame Shit-For-Brains Twit

The insults are unnecessary. We are better than that people.

Oh…I’m sorry. Just got caught up in the general tone of the other comments in this thread….. I couldn’t resist
It’s hard when stupid people leave themselves so wide open. Now, ya’ gotta admit that my insult was creative and kinda’ funny🤷🏼

You have no reason to apologize. The comically stupid need to be put in their place, which is all you did. It is the only way they will learn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Madison put up a fight, but came up short. Would Hayfield have had a better chance of winning the championship?

They weren't a real team so its not relevant

They were too real. You should call them Real Deal Hayfield.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Madison put up a fight, but came up short. Would Hayfield have had a better chance of winning the championship?

They weren't a real team so its not relevant

They were too real. You should call them Real Deal Hayfield.

Your comment was funny. The only decent team they played embarrassed them and exposed Overton as an overmatched coach.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Madison put up a fight, but came up short. Would Hayfield have had a better chance of winning the championship?

They weren't a real team so its not relevant

They were too real. You should call them Real Deal Hayfield.

Your comment was funny. The only decent team they played embarrassed them and exposed Overton as an overmatched coach.

You guys sure wanted to keep Real Deal Hayfield out of Madison’s path.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Madison put up a fight, but came up short. Would Hayfield have had a better chance of winning the championship?

They weren't a real team so its not relevant

They were too real. You should call them Real Deal Hayfield.

Your comment was funny. The only decent team they played embarrassed them and exposed Overton as an overmatched coach.

You guys sure wanted to keep Real Deal Hayfield out of Madison’s path.

“Real Deal Hayfield”?

Are you guys trying to give yourselves a nickname and get it to stick? Oh man that’s just sad.

You continue to make yourselves even more of a punchline every time you post and you don’t even realize it. Please do go on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Madison put up a fight, but came up short. Would Hayfield have had a better chance of winning the championship?

They weren't a real team so its not relevant

They were too real. You should call them Real Deal Hayfield.

Yes. They were real. Real bad or blatant at lying and cheating. If you’re gonna recruit, don’t stack your new public high school team with multiple players from a different public school, where you formerly worked and coached, with players from that team which won the previous two state championships and then pretend they all magically moved into the school district where you where recently hired at and currently coach. Those rosters are public record and can be found easily online for both schools and for both years. Common sense would dictate that most people would have thought this was a bad idea from the start, but common sense seems to be lacking in this situation. Anyway, enjoy fantasy land.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Madison put up a fight, but came up short. Would Hayfield have had a better chance of winning the championship?

They weren't a real team so its not relevant

They were too real. You should call them Real Deal Hayfield.

Yes. They were real. Real bad or blatant at lying and cheating. If you’re gonna recruit, don’t stack your new public high school team with multiple players from a different public school, where you formerly worked and coached, with players from that team which won the previous two state championships and then pretend they all magically moved into the school district where you where recently hired at and currently coach. Those rosters are public record and can be found easily online for both schools and for both years. Common sense would dictate that most people would have thought this was a bad idea from the start, but common sense seems to be lacking in this situation. Anyway, enjoy fantasy land.

There wouldn’t have been any scandal if the coach was white though.

[Anonymous]

A white coach would have known he'd be caught and would have cared about his reputation more. Overton didn't care about his reputation and was overconfident in how much you can play the system. People who feel they have nothing to lose and think they can rig a system often go down this way. Overton didn't really try to work with the system. He felt he was above it.

The only person let go so far I believe was white and there are plenty of white people in FCPS that have been through the ringer for things they have done. If you've done something awful and stupid in FCPS people here will find out about it and expose you no matter your race.