OJ: Made in America (ESPN Doc)

[Anonymous]

http://espn.go.com/30for30/ojsimpsonmadeinamerica/

Anyone have thoughts on this documentary?

IMO, its a fascinating take of the events occurred. Particularly as it relates to race and law.

1) The images of the Nicole and her lover confirmed my thoughts that the crime was one of passion. It was overkill. A hired gun wouldn't go to such lengths. OJ is guilt as sin and he knows it.

2) Even though the bastard was guilty as sin, the LAPD blew the case. No way jury could convict when Fuhrman pleads the 5th on planting evidence. He also is a racist. I'm not sure I could have convicted just knowing that alone.

3) I never truly understood why AA's at the time where so happy that he got off. I thought it was simply b/c he was black and they felt unfairly treated by the police. I viewed it more as an "eye for and eye" from the Rodney King beating verdicts. It was much deeper than that. More like an eye for one million eyes.

I don't believe this approach to "retribution" is right, but I completely understand the sentiment now, and can't say I would't have felt the same way, if I lived the shoes of an AA at the time. The Goldman and Brown families deserved justice, justice. The shouldn't have to pay b/c LE and the criminal justice system was, and likely still is, is inherently racist institution. My guess is that for every Brown and Goldman family, there are 10 AA families that don't get justice and that are intentionally harassed and/or persecuted. Neither should happen, but it seems no one cares about the latter. I didn't realize this.

I actually see parallels b/t the protests and anger during the trial and the ones we have today in response to all these shootings of unarmed AAs. Makes me wonder how far we have some on this front, and if another trial like this were to occur, would we have a similar situation. I believe we would.

4) The Goldman family is ultimately the reason why OJ is jail now. Without the civil case judgement, OJ would be living wealthy on tropical islands. Instead he was scavenging for assets and that lead to his downfall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:http://espn.go.com/30for30/ojsimpsonmadeinamerica/

Anyone have thoughts on this documentary?

IMO, its a fascinating take of the events occurred. Particularly as it relates to race and law.

1) The images of the Nicole and her lover confirmed my thoughts that the crime was one of passion. It was overkill. A hired gun wouldn't go to such lengths. OJ is guilt as sin and he knows it.

2) Even though the bastard was guilty as sin, the LAPD blew the case. No way jury could convict when Fuhrman pleads the 5th on planting evidence. He also is a racist. I'm not sure I could have convicted just knowing that alone.

3) I never truly understood why AA's at the time where so happy that he got off. I thought it was simply b/c he was black and they felt unfairly treated by the police. I viewed it more as an "eye for and eye" from the Rodney King beating verdicts. It was much deeper than that. More like an eye for one million eyes.

I don't believe this approach to "retribution" is right, but I completely understand the sentiment now, and can't say I would't have felt the same way, if I lived the shoes of an AA at the time. The Goldman and Brown families deserved justice, justice. The shouldn't have to pay b/c LE and the criminal justice system was, and likely still is, is inherently racist institution. My guess is that for every Brown and Goldman family, there are 10 AA families that don't get justice and that are intentionally harassed and/or persecuted. Neither should happen, but it seems no one cares about the latter. I didn't realize this.

I actually see parallels b/t the protests and anger during the trial and the ones we have today in response to all these shootings of unarmed AAs. Makes me wonder how far we have some on this front, and if another trial like this were to occur, would we have a similar situation. I believe we would.

4) The Goldman family is ultimately the reason why OJ is jail now. Without the civil case judgement, OJ would be living wealthy on tropical islands. Instead he was scavenging for assets and that lead to his downfall.

The fact that you are referring to Goldman as “her lover” makes me seriously question the remainder of your post.

I came away thinking that Johnny Cochran was a race-baiting attorney who knew that his only hope in getting a guilty man free was to focus on race instead of the actual crime.
Glad OJ is in prison and I actually hope he dies there.

[Anonymous]

Did you watch the FX series "American Crime Story: People vs. OJ Simpson"?

We have 2 episodes to go. I don't want to watch the ESPN one until we've finished with the FX one.

It has been really fascinating. I have also been reading the Vanity Fair reality checks to see what details are true, false, or modified.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did you watch the FX series "American Crime Story: People vs. OJ Simpson"?

We have 2 episodes to go. I don't want to watch the ESPN one until we've finished with the FX one.

It has been really fascinating. I have also been reading the Vanity Fair reality checks to see what details are true, false, or modified.

I watched both. The ESPN series is ten times better than the FX one.
Real interviews with the actual people involved. And, real footage.
I watched the trial when it was going on in the 90’s.
Tragic for the Brown and Goldman families.
A real miscarriage of justice. OJ was guilty as sin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://espn.go.com/30for30/ojsimpsonmadeinamerica/

Anyone have thoughts on this documentary?

IMO, its a fascinating take of the events occurred. Particularly as it relates to race and law.

1) The images of the Nicole and her lover confirmed my thoughts that the crime was one of passion. It was overkill. A hired gun wouldn't go to such lengths. OJ is guilt as sin and he knows it.

2) Even though the bastard was guilty as sin, the LAPD blew the case. No way jury could convict when Fuhrman pleads the 5th on planting evidence. He also is a racist. I'm not sure I could have convicted just knowing that alone.

3) I never truly understood why AA's at the time where so happy that he got off. I thought it was simply b/c he was black and they felt unfairly treated by the police. I viewed it more as an "eye for and eye" from the Rodney King beating verdicts. It was much deeper than that. More like an eye for one million eyes.

I don't believe this approach to "retribution" is right, but I completely understand the sentiment now, and can't say I would't have felt the same way, if I lived the shoes of an AA at the time. The Goldman and Brown families deserved justice, justice. The shouldn't have to pay b/c LE and the criminal justice system was, and likely still is, is inherently racist institution. My guess is that for every Brown and Goldman family, there are 10 AA families that don't get justice and that are intentionally harassed and/or persecuted. Neither should happen, but it seems no one cares about the latter. I didn't realize this.

I actually see parallels b/t the protests and anger during the trial and the ones we have today in response to all these shootings of unarmed AAs. Makes me wonder how far we have some on this front, and if another trial like this were to occur, would we have a similar situation. I believe we would.

4) The Goldman family is ultimately the reason why OJ is jail now. Without the civil case judgement, OJ would be living wealthy on tropical islands. Instead he was scavenging for assets and that lead to his downfall.

The fact that you are referring to Goldman as “her lover” makes me seriously question the remainder of your post.

I came away thinking that Johnny Cochran was a race-baiting attorney who knew that his only hope in getting a guilty man free was to focus on race instead of the actual crime.
Glad OJ is in prison and I actually hope he dies there.

He didn't have to focus on race, the mistakes of the lapd and prosecution are what failed the Browns and Godlman families

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://espn.go.com/30for30/ojsimpsonmadeinamerica/

Anyone have thoughts on this documentary?

IMO, its a fascinating take of the events occurred. Particularly as it relates to race and law.

1) The images of the Nicole and her lover confirmed my thoughts that the crime was one of passion. It was overkill. A hired gun wouldn't go to such lengths. OJ is guilt as sin and he knows it.

2) Even though the bastard was guilty as sin, the LAPD blew the case. No way jury could convict when Fuhrman pleads the 5th on planting evidence. He also is a racist. I'm not sure I could have convicted just knowing that alone.

3) I never truly understood why AA's at the time where so happy that he got off. I thought it was simply b/c he was black and they felt unfairly treated by the police. I viewed it more as an "eye for and eye" from the Rodney King beating verdicts. It was much deeper than that. More like an eye for one million eyes.

I don't believe this approach to "retribution" is right, but I completely understand the sentiment now, and can't say I would't have felt the same way, if I lived the shoes of an AA at the time. The Goldman and Brown families deserved justice, justice. The shouldn't have to pay b/c LE and the criminal justice system was, and likely still is, is inherently racist institution. My guess is that for every Brown and Goldman family, there are 10 AA families that don't get justice and that are intentionally harassed and/or persecuted. Neither should happen, but it seems no one cares about the latter. I didn't realize this.

I actually see parallels b/t the protests and anger during the trial and the ones we have today in response to all these shootings of unarmed AAs. Makes me wonder how far we have some on this front, and if another trial like this were to occur, would we have a similar situation. I believe we would.

4) The Goldman family is ultimately the reason why OJ is jail now. Without the civil case judgement, OJ would be living wealthy on tropical islands. Instead he was scavenging for assets and that lead to his downfall.

The fact that you are referring to Goldman as “her lover” makes me seriously question the remainder of your post.

I came away thinking that Johnny Cochran was a race-baiting attorney who knew that his only hope in getting a guilty man free was to focus on race instead of the actual crime.
Glad OJ is in prison and I actually hope he dies there.

NP here. OP made a simple typo. No need to be rude.

Cochran did his job. The LAPD made it easy for him. If they weren't racist, OJ would haBe just been another murderer in jail. Not some symbol of historical injustice.

I do not agree with the circumstances on how OJ was convicted for robbery. The sentence was way too aggressive based on the crime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://espn.go.com/30for30/ojsimpsonmadeinamerica/

Anyone have thoughts on this documentary?

IMO, its a fascinating take of the events occurred. Particularly as it relates to race and law.

1) The images of the Nicole and her lover confirmed my thoughts that the crime was one of passion. It was overkill. A hired gun wouldn't go to such lengths. OJ is guilt as sin and he knows it.

2) Even though the bastard was guilty as sin, the LAPD blew the case. No way jury could convict when Fuhrman pleads the 5th on planting evidence. He also is a racist. I'm not sure I could have convicted just knowing that alone.

3) I never truly understood why AA's at the time where so happy that he got off. I thought it was simply b/c he was black and they felt unfairly treated by the police. I viewed it more as an "eye for and eye" from the Rodney King beating verdicts. It was much deeper than that. More like an eye for one million eyes.

I don't believe this approach to "retribution" is right, but I completely understand the sentiment now, and can't say I would't have felt the same way, if I lived the shoes of an AA at the time. The Goldman and Brown families deserved justice, justice. The shouldn't have to pay b/c LE and the criminal justice system was, and likely still is, is inherently racist institution. My guess is that for every Brown and Goldman family, there are 10 AA families that don't get justice and that are intentionally harassed and/or persecuted. Neither should happen, but it seems no one cares about the latter. I didn't realize this.

I actually see parallels b/t the protests and anger during the trial and the ones we have today in response to all these shootings of unarmed AAs. Makes me wonder how far we have some on this front, and if another trial like this were to occur, would we have a similar situation. I believe we would.

4) The Goldman family is ultimately the reason why OJ is jail now. Without the civil case judgement, OJ would be living wealthy on tropical islands. Instead he was scavenging for assets and that lead to his downfall.

The fact that you are referring to Goldman as “her lover” makes me seriously question the remainder of your post.

I came away thinking that Johnny Cochran was a race-baiting attorney who knew that his only hope in getting a guilty man free was to focus on race instead of the actual crime.
Glad OJ is in prison and I actually hope he dies there.

NP here. OP made a simple typo. No need to be rude.

Cochran did his job. The LAPD made it easy for him. If they weren't racist, OJ would haBe just been another murderer in jail. Not some symbol of historical injustice.

I do not agree with the circumstances on how OJ was convicted for robbery. The sentence was way too aggressive based on the crime.

You call that statement a typo???? LOL!!!!!
I don’t think you understand the meaning of “typo.”

[Anonymous]

Watching both the the FX series and ESPN doc, I came away fascinated with Johnnie Cochran. I didn't know much about his career and personal life outside of the OJ trial. I hear a biopic is being filmed about him, I'm really looking forward to watching.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://espn.go.com/30for30/ojsimpsonmadeinamerica/

Anyone have thoughts on this documentary?

IMO, its a fascinating take of the events occurred. Particularly as it relates to race and law.

1) The images of the Nicole and her lover confirmed my thoughts that the crime was one of passion. It was overkill. A hired gun wouldn't go to such lengths. OJ is guilt as sin and he knows it.

2) Even though the bastard was guilty as sin, the LAPD blew the case. No way jury could convict when Fuhrman pleads the 5th on planting evidence. He also is a racist. I'm not sure I could have convicted just knowing that alone.

3) I never truly understood why AA's at the time where so happy that he got off. I thought it was simply b/c he was black and they felt unfairly treated by the police. I viewed it more as an "eye for and eye" from the Rodney King beating verdicts. It was much deeper than that. More like an eye for one million eyes.

I don't believe this approach to "retribution" is right, but I completely understand the sentiment now, and can't say I would't have felt the same way, if I lived the shoes of an AA at the time. The Goldman and Brown families deserved justice, justice. The shouldn't have to pay b/c LE and the criminal justice system was, and likely still is, is inherently racist institution. My guess is that for every Brown and Goldman family, there are 10 AA families that don't get justice and that are intentionally harassed and/or persecuted. Neither should happen, but it seems no one cares about the latter. I didn't realize this.

I actually see parallels b/t the protests and anger during the trial and the ones we have today in response to all these shootings of unarmed AAs. Makes me wonder how far we have some on this front, and if another trial like this were to occur, would we have a similar situation. I believe we would.

4) The Goldman family is ultimately the reason why OJ is jail now. Without the civil case judgement, OJ would be living wealthy on tropical islands. Instead he was scavenging for assets and that lead to his downfall.

The fact that you are referring to Goldman as “her lover” makes me seriously question the remainder of your post.

I came away thinking that Johnny Cochran was a race-baiting attorney who knew that his only hope in getting a guilty man free was to focus on race instead of the actual crime.
Glad OJ is in prison and I actually hope he dies there.

NP here. OP made a simple typo. No need to be rude.

Cochran did his job. The LAPD made it easy for him. If they weren't racist, OJ would haBe just been another murderer in jail. Not some symbol of historical injustice.

I do not agree with the circumstances on how OJ was convicted for robbery. The sentence was way too aggressive based on the crime.

You call that statement a typo???? LOL!!!!!
I don’t think you understand the meaning of “typo.”

I know, right? That made me laugh.

Ron Goldman wasn't her lover. He was returning the damn glasses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://espn.go.com/30for30/ojsimpsonmadeinamerica/

Anyone have thoughts on this documentary?

IMO, its a fascinating take of the events occurred. Particularly as it relates to race and law.

1) The images of the Nicole and her lover confirmed my thoughts that the crime was one of passion. It was overkill. A hired gun wouldn't go to such lengths. OJ is guilt as sin and he knows it.

2) Even though the bastard was guilty as sin, the LAPD blew the case. No way jury could convict when Fuhrman pleads the 5th on planting evidence. He also is a racist. I'm not sure I could have convicted just knowing that alone.

3) I never truly understood why AA's at the time where so happy that he got off. I thought it was simply b/c he was black and they felt unfairly treated by the police. I viewed it more as an "eye for and eye" from the Rodney King beating verdicts. It was much deeper than that. More like an eye for one million eyes.

I don't believe this approach to "retribution" is right, but I completely understand the sentiment now, and can't say I would't have felt the same way, if I lived the shoes of an AA at the time. The Goldman and Brown families deserved justice, justice. The shouldn't have to pay b/c LE and the criminal justice system was, and likely still is, is inherently racist institution. My guess is that for every Brown and Goldman family, there are 10 AA families that don't get justice and that are intentionally harassed and/or persecuted. Neither should happen, but it seems no one cares about the latter. I didn't realize this.

I actually see parallels b/t the protests and anger during the trial and the ones we have today in response to all these shootings of unarmed AAs. Makes me wonder how far we have some on this front, and if another trial like this were to occur, would we have a similar situation. I believe we would.

4) The Goldman family is ultimately the reason why OJ is jail now. Without the civil case judgement, OJ would be living wealthy on tropical islands. Instead he was scavenging for assets and that lead to his downfall.

The fact that you are referring to Goldman as “her lover” makes me seriously question the remainder of your post.

I came away thinking that Johnny Cochran was a race-baiting attorney who knew that his only hope in getting a guilty man free was to focus on race instead of the actual crime.
Glad OJ is in prison and I actually hope he dies there.

The lover PP is referring to (I think) is the guy named Keith, who owned Meszzaluna. Lots of suggestions, including her diary entries, that a relationship with Marcus Allen also infuriated Simpson.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://espn.go.com/30for30/ojsimpsonmadeinamerica/

Anyone have thoughts on this documentary?

IMO, its a fascinating take of the events occurred. Particularly as it relates to race and law.

1) The images of the Nicole and her lover confirmed my thoughts that the crime was one of passion. It was overkill. A hired gun wouldn't go to such lengths. OJ is guilt as sin and he knows it.

2) Even though the bastard was guilty as sin, the LAPD blew the case. No way jury could convict when Fuhrman pleads the 5th on planting evidence. He also is a racist. I'm not sure I could have convicted just knowing that alone.

3) I never truly understood why AA's at the time where so happy that he got off. I thought it was simply b/c he was black and they felt unfairly treated by the police. I viewed it more as an "eye for and eye" from the Rodney King beating verdicts. It was much deeper than that. More like an eye for one million eyes.

I don't believe this approach to "retribution" is right, but I completely understand the sentiment now, and can't say I would't have felt the same way, if I lived the shoes of an AA at the time. The Goldman and Brown families deserved justice, justice. The shouldn't have to pay b/c LE and the criminal justice system was, and likely still is, is inherently racist institution. My guess is that for every Brown and Goldman family, there are 10 AA families that don't get justice and that are intentionally harassed and/or persecuted. Neither should happen, but it seems no one cares about the latter. I didn't realize this.

I actually see parallels b/t the protests and anger during the trial and the ones we have today in response to all these shootings of unarmed AAs. Makes me wonder how far we have some on this front, and if another trial like this were to occur, would we have a similar situation. I believe we would.

4) The Goldman family is ultimately the reason why OJ is jail now. Without the civil case judgement, OJ would be living wealthy on tropical islands. Instead he was scavenging for assets and that lead to his downfall.

The fact that you are referring to Goldman as “her lover” makes me seriously question the remainder of your post.

I came away thinking that Johnny Cochran was a race-baiting attorney who knew that his only hope in getting a guilty man free was to focus on race instead of the actual crime.
Glad OJ is in prison and I actually hope he dies there.

The lover PP is referring to (I think) is the guy named Keith, who owned Meszzaluna. Lots of suggestions, including her diary entries, that a relationship with Marcus Allen also infuriated Simpson.

This is the guy who was Nicole's lover. During the documentary he tells a story of how Simpson followed the back to her house, spied on them through the living room windows and watched the get intimate.

http://www.bustle.com/articles/166762-who-is-keith-zlomsowitch-nicole-brown-simpsons-boyfriend-gave-upsetting-testimony

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://espn.go.com/30for30/ojsimpsonmadeinamerica/

Anyone have thoughts on this documentary?

IMO, its a fascinating take of the events occurred. Particularly as it relates to race and law.

1) The images of the Nicole and her lover confirmed my thoughts that the crime was one of passion. It was overkill. A hired gun wouldn't go to such lengths. OJ is guilt as sin and he knows it.

2) Even though the bastard was guilty as sin, the LAPD blew the case. No way jury could convict when Fuhrman pleads the 5th on planting evidence. He also is a racist. I'm not sure I could have convicted just knowing that alone.

3) I never truly understood why AA's at the time where so happy that he got off. I thought it was simply b/c he was black and they felt unfairly treated by the police. I viewed it more as an "eye for and eye" from the Rodney King beating verdicts. It was much deeper than that. More like an eye for one million eyes.

I don't believe this approach to "retribution" is right, but I completely understand the sentiment now, and can't say I would't have felt the same way, if I lived the shoes of an AA at the time. The Goldman and Brown families deserved justice, justice. The shouldn't have to pay b/c LE and the criminal justice system was, and likely still is, is inherently racist institution. My guess is that for every Brown and Goldman family, there are 10 AA families that don't get justice and that are intentionally harassed and/or persecuted. Neither should happen, but it seems no one cares about the latter. I didn't realize this.

I actually see parallels b/t the protests and anger during the trial and the ones we have today in response to all these shootings of unarmed AAs. Makes me wonder how far we have some on this front, and if another trial like this were to occur, would we have a similar situation. I believe we would.

4) The Goldman family is ultimately the reason why OJ is jail now. Without the civil case judgement, OJ would be living wealthy on tropical islands. Instead he was scavenging for assets and that lead to his downfall.

The fact that you are referring to Goldman as “her lover” makes me seriously question the remainder of your post.

I came away thinking that Johnny Cochran was a race-baiting attorney who knew that his only hope in getting a guilty man free was to focus on race instead of the actual crime.
Glad OJ is in prison and I actually hope he dies there.

He didn't have to focus on race, the mistakes of the lapd and prosecution are what failed the Browns and Godlman families

True, but he chose to focus on race. And in his closing arguments he compared Mark Furhman (a nobody racist LAPD detective) to Hitler.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://espn.go.com/30for30/ojsimpsonmadeinamerica/

Anyone have thoughts on this documentary?

IMO, its a fascinating take of the events occurred. Particularly as it relates to race and law.

1) The images of the Nicole and her lover confirmed my thoughts that the crime was one of passion. It was overkill. A hired gun wouldn't go to such lengths. OJ is guilt as sin and he knows it.

2) Even though the bastard was guilty as sin, the LAPD blew the case. No way jury could convict when Fuhrman pleads the 5th on planting evidence. He also is a racist. I'm not sure I could have convicted just knowing that alone.

3) I never truly understood why AA's at the time where so happy that he got off. I thought it was simply b/c he was black and they felt unfairly treated by the police. I viewed it more as an "eye for and eye" from the Rodney King beating verdicts. It was much deeper than that. More like an eye for one million eyes.

I don't believe this approach to "retribution" is right, but I completely understand the sentiment now, and can't say I would't have felt the same way, if I lived the shoes of an AA at the time. The Goldman and Brown families deserved justice, justice. The shouldn't have to pay b/c LE and the criminal justice system was, and likely still is, is inherently racist institution. My guess is that for every Brown and Goldman family, there are 10 AA families that don't get justice and that are intentionally harassed and/or persecuted. Neither should happen, but it seems no one cares about the latter. I didn't realize this.

I actually see parallels b/t the protests and anger during the trial and the ones we have today in response to all these shootings of unarmed AAs. Makes me wonder how far we have some on this front, and if another trial like this were to occur, would we have a similar situation. I believe we would.

4) The Goldman family is ultimately the reason why OJ is jail now. Without the civil case judgement, OJ would be living wealthy on tropical islands. Instead he was scavenging for assets and that lead to his downfall.

The fact that you are referring to Goldman as “her lover” makes me seriously question the remainder of your post.

I came away thinking that Johnny Cochran was a race-baiting attorney who knew that his only hope in getting a guilty man free was to focus on race instead of the actual crime.
Glad OJ is in prison and I actually hope he dies there.

NP here. OP made a simple typo. No need to be rude.

Cochran did his job. The LAPD made it easy for him. If they weren't racist, OJ would haBe just been another murderer in jail. Not some symbol of historical injustice.

I do not agree with the circumstances on how OJ was convicted for robbery. The sentence was way too aggressive based on the crime.

This is one of the arguments from one of Cochran's attorneys who basically said it was payback - supposedly the judge held the jury past midnight so the sentence could be delivered on the same date as his acquittal day years earlier and the sentence was identical (in number of years - 33) to the civil award $33.0 million.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://espn.go.com/30for30/ojsimpsonmadeinamerica/

Anyone have thoughts on this documentary?

IMO, its a fascinating take of the events occurred. Particularly as it relates to race and law.

1) The images of the Nicole and her lover confirmed my thoughts that the crime was one of passion. It was overkill. A hired gun wouldn't go to such lengths. OJ is guilt as sin and he knows it.

2) Even though the bastard was guilty as sin, the LAPD blew the case. No way jury could convict when Fuhrman pleads the 5th on planting evidence. He also is a racist. I'm not sure I could have convicted just knowing that alone.

3) I never truly understood why AA's at the time where so happy that he got off. I thought it was simply b/c he was black and they felt unfairly treated by the police. I viewed it more as an "eye for and eye" from the Rodney King beating verdicts. It was much deeper than that. More like an eye for one million eyes.

I don't believe this approach to "retribution" is right, but I completely understand the sentiment now, and can't say I would't have felt the same way, if I lived the shoes of an AA at the time. The Goldman and Brown families deserved justice, justice. The shouldn't have to pay b/c LE and the criminal justice system was, and likely still is, is inherently racist institution. My guess is that for every Brown and Goldman family, there are 10 AA families that don't get justice and that are intentionally harassed and/or persecuted. Neither should happen, but it seems no one cares about the latter. I didn't realize this.

I actually see parallels b/t the protests and anger during the trial and the ones we have today in response to all these shootings of unarmed AAs. Makes me wonder how far we have some on this front, and if another trial like this were to occur, would we have a similar situation. I believe we would.

4) The Goldman family is ultimately the reason why OJ is jail now. Without the civil case judgement, OJ would be living wealthy on tropical islands. Instead he was scavenging for assets and that lead to his downfall.

The fact that you are referring to Goldman as “her lover” makes me seriously question the remainder of your post.

I came away thinking that Johnny Cochran was a race-baiting attorney who knew that his only hope in getting a guilty man free was to focus on race instead of the actual crime.
Glad OJ is in prison and I actually hope he dies there.

NP here. OP made a simple typo. No need to be rude.

Cochran did his job. The LAPD made it easy for him. If they weren't racist, OJ would haBe just been another murderer in jail. Not some symbol of historical injustice.

I do not agree with the circumstances on how OJ was convicted for robbery. The sentence was way too aggressive based on the crime.

This is one of the arguments from one of Cochran's attorneys who basically said it was payback - supposedly the judge held the jury past midnight so the sentence could be delivered on the same date as his acquittal day years earlier and the sentence was identical (in number of years - 33) to the civil award $33.0 million.

** verdict, not sentence

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you watch the FX series "American Crime Story: People vs. OJ Simpson"?

We have 2 episodes to go. I don't want to watch the ESPN one until we've finished with the FX one.

It has been really fascinating. I have also been reading the Vanity Fair reality checks to see what details are true, false, or modified.

I watched both. The ESPN series is ten times better than the FX one.
Real interviews with the actual people involved. And, real footage.
I watched the trial when it was going on in the 90’s.
Tragic for the Brown and Goldman families.
A real miscarriage of justice. OJ was guilty as sin.

I didn't think one program was necessarily better than the other. They were totally different projects. The acting in the mini-series was superb - Sarah Paulson, Sterling Brown, Courtney B. Vance, Nathan Lane - and I appreciate how they exposed the sexism directed at Clark at the time - ironic as the defense was playing a different discriminatory card during the trial.

And the documentary was fascinating in the way it showed how the black leaders in the 60s and 70s had given up on OJ even lifting a finger to help the cause, and then the trial shows how the least black black person ever benefits in the trial from being black. I also appreciated how the documentary detailed the Keystone Cops nature of the robbery, which finally got OJ behind bars. While we all knew the details from the murders, after viewing the trial for a year, I was never very sure how the robbery played out, and the doc handled it well.