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Anonymous wrote:Do you think school board will amend with new changes from Reid’s proposal or just remove some of her changes? I hope nothing new - maybe just add to list of things to look at in future?

They might put some of the Map 4 changes back into play (WSHS comes to mind)

There are some very upset Cardinal Forest families at Reid's last minute changes that switched that Keene Mill island down near White Oaks, Shannon Station, from getting rezoned to White Oaks elementary and Lake Braddock in Map 4, to Reid rezoning them to Cardinal Forest, putting Cardinal Forest well over capacity, and also rezoning walkable Cardinal Forest neighborhoods from Cardinal Forest to farther away Keene Mill elementary.

Moving Shannon Station to White Oaks in Map 4 eliminated an attendance island and decreased West Springfield High School by around 100 students. It also lowered transportation costs by sending them to a closer school, and sent Shannon Station to equivalent schools with the same programs. The Shannon Station move was low hanging fruit and met every last one of the four rezoning mandates given to the BRAC committee by the school board.

Reid's map keeps everyone at WSHS. Reid keeps the recommendation from Map 4 to move two SPAs from Rolling Valley to Saratoga, but leaves one Rolling Valley SPA from the Parkway area at status quo (Rolling Valley > Key > Lewis), which means that instead of being a roughly 60/40 split feeder between WSHS and Lewis, Rolling Valley is now less than 10% split going to Lewis.

What Reid did to the WSHS maps by keeping Emerald Chase at WSHS and rezoning Rolling Valley the way that she did, puts a huge target on WSHS for mid cycle rezoning in the next year or two.

Sandy Anderson openly stated this at the school board meeting last week. Anderson's term goes through 2028. Rezoning WSHS has been her consistent, stated goal since soon after she was sworn in. If she can find a way to rezone neighborhoods out of WSHS in an off cycle rezoning before her term ends, and move RV into WSHS, then she will definitely try.

If you know the history and follow the process, it is clear that Reid's map, trying to keep everyone happy, is the worst case scenario for WSHS as it means continuous, mid cycle rezoning.

I sincerely hope that the school board adopts Map 4 for WSHS, for at least Shannon Station. Or, if they leave Shannon Station at WSHS, then I hope they rezone SPA 8922 along the Parkway to Saratoga, along with the rest of the Rolling Valley Lewis schools.

In my opinion, that is the best way to protect WSHS from mid cycle rezoning.

One correction to my post.

School board elections are odd years in FairfaxCounty, 2019, 2023, 2027...

The term ends in January 2028, while the election is November 2027, roughly 22 months from now.

This school board has roughly 2 years to continue to make their mark on our kids' education. I think they are counting on voters completely forgetting about this rezoning mess by the next election.

Hard to do that when Sandy Anderson promised that this is just the start and they’re planning to continue looking at a variety of schools starting in January from the superintendent’s list.

Is anyone familiar with her origin story? I’m genuinely curious why she’s so singularly focused on WSHS. How does someone wake up one day and decide that rezoning this one school becomes their life’s mission?

Some people just think they know best. They claim to "care more" than you do. "Savior" mentality.

A white suburban woman knows what is good for poor black, Latino and Asian children than their own parents. These women are the real racists.

Correct.

Those two white women who argued for more boundary changes are just trying to get more kids like theirs in their classrooms. I question their motives. The only one who seemed to be truly crunchy was the elderly woman with short hair who clearly doesn’t have kids in the school district, but even her children probably benefited from the system she is now trying to change.

So some FCPS schools are designated for black, Latino, and Asian students? That is what you can read from your statement.

Lewis is closing in on only 1500 students this year and will almost certainly start next year around 1450 if nothing is done. It is not like the other FCPS schools simply in the NUMBER of students, be they white, black, Latino, Asian, or other.

But they are doing something. They’re looking at stopping transfers out by adding programming. That’s what Reid said.

And it looks like they are going to add Bren Mar Park elementary before the 5 year review. Which also helps relieve capacity issues at Edison so is a good change.

I have no idea why we’re suddenly bringing up a NYT podcast from an entirely different cultural era … definitely not a relevant piece of media in these extremely different times.

It’s not clear it’s a good change. It quickly got tabled for this cycle whereas they went ahead with the other last-minute changes to move kids out of Glasgow/Justice to Poe/Falls Church and Holmes/Annandale. They ended up getting a lot of push back from the Beech Tree families, but they hadn’t tabled those changes like they had with Bren Mar Park.

It isn’t a change that is being proposed to add kids to Lewis - rather, it is to take kids out of Edison. Edison needs to get rid of some students in order to accommodate growth in the region - they’ve already broken ground on a large neighborhood in Kingstowne where the old Top Golf used to be and that area will for sure be zoned for Edison. Never mind when the Franconia government center gets redeveloped in a few years. I know BMP would like to end up back at Annandale but Annandale also can’t accommodate more students at this point.

All of Bren Mar Park went to Annandale before 2011. Bren Mar Park ES used to be two different schools - Edsall Park ES covered the area north of the Beltway and west of 395, and Bren Mar Park ES the area north of the Beltway an east of 395. One area is Springfield and the other Alexandria. They closed Edsall Park decades ago. To get to Edison now, the Edsall Park area has to cross both 395 and the Beltway. The Bren Mar area just has to cross the Beltway.

Annandale has capacity to take back the Edsall Park area, and that area would no longer have to cross either the Beltway or 395. The Bren Mar area is better served by Edison. None of these folks want to go to Lewis, and they should not be moved there just to give West Springfield families comfort that someone else is getting moved instead.

So you propose making a split feeder out of BMP and sending some to Annandale and keeping some at Edison? It’s not a bad idea on paper and does get some kids out of Edison - but not sure if it’s enough kids to accommodate the new neighborhoods. And then you run into the K-5/K-6 school problems as BMP is currently a K-5 school whereas the rest of Edison and all of Lewis have K-6 elementaries.

And again - this is not about adding kids to Lewis to prop it up, it’s about reducing enrollment at Edison. I would agree if Annandale could pick up all of BMP, that is where they should go. But they can’t at this point without worsening the crowding there and then creating a spillover effect into Justice, Falls Church, Woodson etc. From a purely logistical standpoint and affecting the smallest number of schools, BMP to Lewis makes sense right now.

The CIP now has West Springfield at 114% this fall and Edison at 103%. Any future adjustments should be based on updated numbers.

Annandale could probably pick up all of BMP if needed but it’s those from west of 395 who would be most receptive to that move.

Their starting point with Lewis needs to be replacing IB with AP, which would curtail transfers. As for Edison, they can monitor enrollments to see if the projected increase in students materializes. They have Edison at 109% in 2030, but that still well below West Springfield’s current and projected capacity utilization.

Some of the elementary feeders into WSHS are heading down to below 90% capacity. All of the feeders are smaller than the classes they are replacing, some significantly like class of 2030 being 150 fewer students than graduating class of 2026.

Yet FCPS continues to show growth at WSHS in spite of the WSHS feeder schools steadily losing enrollment each year.

Either the CIP math ain't mathing at WSHS, or there is something really fishy happening with transfers into WSHS, and possible widespread residency fraud.

WSHS needs a residency check and transfer into the school frozen.

What West Springfield needs is for the parents who are so insecure about being redistricted some day to stop pitching alternative scenarios that move around other people’s kids at other schools instead. It only serves to call renewed attention to which high school FCPS currently considers and projects to be the most overcrowded in the county: WSHS.

How about you mind your business and just give those WSHS parents credit. I didn't hear them advocating for kicking or moving anyone out. They did their freaking homework, they understood the assignment, and they pushed back hard. Do the residency checks, keep limiting transfers, keep watching the declining numbers. Improving programing before you start playing ping-ponging kids around.

Residency checks are routinely done. This is a red herring.

I have not once been asked to resubmit residency information after 10 years in the FCPS system. It is very easy to use a previous address to stay at a school. Or to use someone else's address to enroll ... someone on this site asked about doing that just the other week!

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think school board will amend with new changes from Reid’s proposal or just remove some of her changes? I hope nothing new - maybe just add to list of things to look at in future?

They might put some of the Map 4 changes back into play (WSHS comes to mind)

There are some very upset Cardinal Forest families at Reid's last minute changes that switched that Keene Mill island down near White Oaks, Shannon Station, from getting rezoned to White Oaks elementary and Lake Braddock in Map 4, to Reid rezoning them to Cardinal Forest, putting Cardinal Forest well over capacity, and also rezoning walkable Cardinal Forest neighborhoods from Cardinal Forest to farther away Keene Mill elementary.

Moving Shannon Station to White Oaks in Map 4 eliminated an attendance island and decreased West Springfield High School by around 100 students. It also lowered transportation costs by sending them to a closer school, and sent Shannon Station to equivalent schools with the same programs. The Shannon Station move was low hanging fruit and met every last one of the four rezoning mandates given to the BRAC committee by the school board.

Reid's map keeps everyone at WSHS. Reid keeps the recommendation from Map 4 to move two SPAs from Rolling Valley to Saratoga, but leaves one Rolling Valley SPA from the Parkway area at status quo (Rolling Valley > Key > Lewis), which means that instead of being a roughly 60/40 split feeder between WSHS and Lewis, Rolling Valley is now less than 10% split going to Lewis.

What Reid did to the WSHS maps by keeping Emerald Chase at WSHS and rezoning Rolling Valley the way that she did, puts a huge target on WSHS for mid cycle rezoning in the next year or two.

Sandy Anderson openly stated this at the school board meeting last week. Anderson's term goes through 2028. Rezoning WSHS has been her consistent, stated goal since soon after she was sworn in. If she can find a way to rezone neighborhoods out of WSHS in an off cycle rezoning before her term ends, and move RV into WSHS, then she will definitely try.

If you know the history and follow the process, it is clear that Reid's map, trying to keep everyone happy, is the worst case scenario for WSHS as it means continuous, mid cycle rezoning.

I sincerely hope that the school board adopts Map 4 for WSHS, for at least Shannon Station. Or, if they leave Shannon Station at WSHS, then I hope they rezone SPA 8922 along the Parkway to Saratoga, along with the rest of the Rolling Valley Lewis schools.

In my opinion, that is the best way to protect WSHS from mid cycle rezoning.

One correction to my post.

School board elections are odd years in FairfaxCounty, 2019, 2023, 2027...

The term ends in January 2028, while the election is November 2027, roughly 22 months from now.

This school board has roughly 2 years to continue to make their mark on our kids' education. I think they are counting on voters completely forgetting about this rezoning mess by the next election.

Hard to do that when Sandy Anderson promised that this is just the start and they’re planning to continue looking at a variety of schools starting in January from the superintendent’s list.

Is anyone familiar with her origin story? I’m genuinely curious why she’s so singularly focused on WSHS. How does someone wake up one day and decide that rezoning this one school becomes their life’s mission?

Some people just think they know best. They claim to "care more" than you do. "Savior" mentality.

A white suburban woman knows what is good for poor black, Latino and Asian children than their own parents. These women are the real racists.

Correct.

Those two white women who argued for more boundary changes are just trying to get more kids like theirs in their classrooms. I question their motives. The only one who seemed to be truly crunchy was the elderly woman with short hair who clearly doesn’t have kids in the school district, but even her children probably benefited from the system she is now trying to change.

So some FCPS schools are designated for black, Latino, and Asian students? That is what you can read from your statement.

Lewis is closing in on only 1500 students this year and will almost certainly start next year around 1450 if nothing is done. It is not like the other FCPS schools simply in the NUMBER of students, be they white, black, Latino, Asian, or other.

But they are doing something. They’re looking at stopping transfers out by adding programming. That’s what Reid said.

And it looks like they are going to add Bren Mar Park elementary before the 5 year review. Which also helps relieve capacity issues at Edison so is a good change.

I have no idea why we’re suddenly bringing up a NYT podcast from an entirely different cultural era … definitely not a relevant piece of media in these extremely different times.

It’s not clear it’s a good change. It quickly got tabled for this cycle whereas they went ahead with the other last-minute changes to move kids out of Glasgow/Justice to Poe/Falls Church and Holmes/Annandale. They ended up getting a lot of push back from the Beech Tree families, but they hadn’t tabled those changes like they had with Bren Mar Park.

It isn’t a change that is being proposed to add kids to Lewis - rather, it is to take kids out of Edison. Edison needs to get rid of some students in order to accommodate growth in the region - they’ve already broken ground on a large neighborhood in Kingstowne where the old Top Golf used to be and that area will for sure be zoned for Edison. Never mind when the Franconia government center gets redeveloped in a few years. I know BMP would like to end up back at Annandale but Annandale also can’t accommodate more students at this point.

All of Bren Mar Park went to Annandale before 2011. Bren Mar Park ES used to be two different schools - Edsall Park ES covered the area north of the Beltway and west of 395, and Bren Mar Park ES the area north of the Beltway an east of 395. One area is Springfield and the other Alexandria. They closed Edsall Park decades ago. To get to Edison now, the Edsall Park area has to cross both 395 and the Beltway. The Bren Mar area just has to cross the Beltway.

Annandale has capacity to take back the Edsall Park area, and that area would no longer have to cross either the Beltway or 395. The Bren Mar area is better served by Edison. None of these folks want to go to Lewis, and they should not be moved there just to give West Springfield families comfort that someone else is getting moved instead.

So you propose making a split feeder out of BMP and sending some to Annandale and keeping some at Edison? It’s not a bad idea on paper and does get some kids out of Edison - but not sure if it’s enough kids to accommodate the new neighborhoods. And then you run into the K-5/K-6 school problems as BMP is currently a K-5 school whereas the rest of Edison and all of Lewis have K-6 elementaries.

And again - this is not about adding kids to Lewis to prop it up, it’s about reducing enrollment at Edison. I would agree if Annandale could pick up all of BMP, that is where they should go. But they can’t at this point without worsening the crowding there and then creating a spillover effect into Justice, Falls Church, Woodson etc. From a purely logistical standpoint and affecting the smallest number of schools, BMP to Lewis makes sense right now.

The CIP now has West Springfield at 114% this fall and Edison at 103%. Any future adjustments should be based on updated numbers.

Annandale could probably pick up all of BMP if needed but it’s those from west of 395 who would be most receptive to that move.

Their starting point with Lewis needs to be replacing IB with AP, which would curtail transfers. As for Edison, they can monitor enrollments to see if the projected increase in students materializes. They have Edison at 109% in 2030, but that still well below West Springfield’s current and projected capacity utilization.

Some of the elementary feeders into WSHS are heading down to below 90% capacity. All of the feeders are smaller than the classes they are replacing, some significantly like class of 2030 being 150 fewer students than graduating class of 2026.

Yet FCPS continues to show growth at WSHS in spite of the WSHS feeder schools steadily losing enrollment each year.

Either the CIP math ain't mathing at WSHS, or there is something really fishy happening with transfers into WSHS, and possible widespread residency fraud.

WSHS needs a residency check and transfer into the school frozen.

What West Springfield needs is for the parents who are so insecure about being redistricted some day to stop pitching alternative scenarios that move around other people’s kids at other schools instead. It only serves to call renewed attention to which high school FCPS currently considers and projects to be the most overcrowded in the county: WSHS.

How about you mind your business and just give those WSHS parents credit. I didn't hear them advocating for kicking or moving anyone out. They did their freaking homework, they understood the assignment, and they pushed back hard. Do the residency checks, keep limiting transfers, keep watching the declining numbers. Improving programing before you start playing ping-ponging kids around.

Some of them are pushing for Bren Mar Park to get moved to Lewis. Try to keep up.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think school board will amend with new changes from Reid’s proposal or just remove some of her changes? I hope nothing new - maybe just add to list of things to look at in future?

They might put some of the Map 4 changes back into play (WSHS comes to mind)

There are some very upset Cardinal Forest families at Reid's last minute changes that switched that Keene Mill island down near White Oaks, Shannon Station, from getting rezoned to White Oaks elementary and Lake Braddock in Map 4, to Reid rezoning them to Cardinal Forest, putting Cardinal Forest well over capacity, and also rezoning walkable Cardinal Forest neighborhoods from Cardinal Forest to farther away Keene Mill elementary.

Moving Shannon Station to White Oaks in Map 4 eliminated an attendance island and decreased West Springfield High School by around 100 students. It also lowered transportation costs by sending them to a closer school, and sent Shannon Station to equivalent schools with the same programs. The Shannon Station move was low hanging fruit and met every last one of the four rezoning mandates given to the BRAC committee by the school board.

Reid's map keeps everyone at WSHS. Reid keeps the recommendation from Map 4 to move two SPAs from Rolling Valley to Saratoga, but leaves one Rolling Valley SPA from the Parkway area at status quo (Rolling Valley > Key > Lewis), which means that instead of being a roughly 60/40 split feeder between WSHS and Lewis, Rolling Valley is now less than 10% split going to Lewis.

What Reid did to the WSHS maps by keeping Emerald Chase at WSHS and rezoning Rolling Valley the way that she did, puts a huge target on WSHS for mid cycle rezoning in the next year or two.

Sandy Anderson openly stated this at the school board meeting last week. Anderson's term goes through 2028. Rezoning WSHS has been her consistent, stated goal since soon after she was sworn in. If she can find a way to rezone neighborhoods out of WSHS in an off cycle rezoning before her term ends, and move RV into WSHS, then she will definitely try.

If you know the history and follow the process, it is clear that Reid's map, trying to keep everyone happy, is the worst case scenario for WSHS as it means continuous, mid cycle rezoning.

I sincerely hope that the school board adopts Map 4 for WSHS, for at least Shannon Station. Or, if they leave Shannon Station at WSHS, then I hope they rezone SPA 8922 along the Parkway to Saratoga, along with the rest of the Rolling Valley Lewis schools.

In my opinion, that is the best way to protect WSHS from mid cycle rezoning.

One correction to my post.

School board elections are odd years in FairfaxCounty, 2019, 2023, 2027...

The term ends in January 2028, while the election is November 2027, roughly 22 months from now.

This school board has roughly 2 years to continue to make their mark on our kids' education. I think they are counting on voters completely forgetting about this rezoning mess by the next election.

Hard to do that when Sandy Anderson promised that this is just the start and they’re planning to continue looking at a variety of schools starting in January from the superintendent’s list.

Is anyone familiar with her origin story? I’m genuinely curious why she’s so singularly focused on WSHS. How does someone wake up one day and decide that rezoning this one school becomes their life’s mission?

Some people just think they know best. They claim to "care more" than you do. "Savior" mentality.

A white suburban woman knows what is good for poor black, Latino and Asian children than their own parents. These women are the real racists.

Correct.

Those two white women who argued for more boundary changes are just trying to get more kids like theirs in their classrooms. I question their motives. The only one who seemed to be truly crunchy was the elderly woman with short hair who clearly doesn’t have kids in the school district, but even her children probably benefited from the system she is now trying to change.

So some FCPS schools are designated for black, Latino, and Asian students? That is what you can read from your statement.

Lewis is closing in on only 1500 students this year and will almost certainly start next year around 1450 if nothing is done. It is not like the other FCPS schools simply in the NUMBER of students, be they white, black, Latino, Asian, or other.

But they are doing something. They’re looking at stopping transfers out by adding programming. That’s what Reid said.

And it looks like they are going to add Bren Mar Park elementary before the 5 year review. Which also helps relieve capacity issues at Edison so is a good change.

I have no idea why we’re suddenly bringing up a NYT podcast from an entirely different cultural era … definitely not a relevant piece of media in these extremely different times.

It’s not clear it’s a good change. It quickly got tabled for this cycle whereas they went ahead with the other last-minute changes to move kids out of Glasgow/Justice to Poe/Falls Church and Holmes/Annandale. They ended up getting a lot of push back from the Beech Tree families, but they hadn’t tabled those changes like they had with Bren Mar Park.

It isn’t a change that is being proposed to add kids to Lewis - rather, it is to take kids out of Edison. Edison needs to get rid of some students in order to accommodate growth in the region - they’ve already broken ground on a large neighborhood in Kingstowne where the old Top Golf used to be and that area will for sure be zoned for Edison. Never mind when the Franconia government center gets redeveloped in a few years. I know BMP would like to end up back at Annandale but Annandale also can’t accommodate more students at this point.

All of Bren Mar Park went to Annandale before 2011. Bren Mar Park ES used to be two different schools - Edsall Park ES covered the area north of the Beltway and west of 395, and Bren Mar Park ES the area north of the Beltway an east of 395. One area is Springfield and the other Alexandria. They closed Edsall Park decades ago. To get to Edison now, the Edsall Park area has to cross both 395 and the Beltway. The Bren Mar area just has to cross the Beltway.

Annandale has capacity to take back the Edsall Park area, and that area would no longer have to cross either the Beltway or 395. The Bren Mar area is better served by Edison. None of these folks want to go to Lewis, and they should not be moved there just to give West Springfield families comfort that someone else is getting moved instead.

So you propose making a split feeder out of BMP and sending some to Annandale and keeping some at Edison? It’s not a bad idea on paper and does get some kids out of Edison - but not sure if it’s enough kids to accommodate the new neighborhoods. And then you run into the K-5/K-6 school problems as BMP is currently a K-5 school whereas the rest of Edison and all of Lewis have K-6 elementaries.

And again - this is not about adding kids to Lewis to prop it up, it’s about reducing enrollment at Edison. I would agree if Annandale could pick up all of BMP, that is where they should go. But they can’t at this point without worsening the crowding there and then creating a spillover effect into Justice, Falls Church, Woodson etc. From a purely logistical standpoint and affecting the smallest number of schools, BMP to Lewis makes sense right now.

The CIP now has West Springfield at 114% this fall and Edison at 103%. Any future adjustments should be based on updated numbers.

Annandale could probably pick up all of BMP if needed but it’s those from west of 395 who would be most receptive to that move.

Their starting point with Lewis needs to be replacing IB with AP, which would curtail transfers. As for Edison, they can monitor enrollments to see if the projected increase in students materializes. They have Edison at 109% in 2030, but that still well below West Springfield’s current and projected capacity utilization.

Some of the elementary feeders into WSHS are heading down to below 90% capacity. All of the feeders are smaller than the classes they are replacing, some significantly like class of 2030 being 150 fewer students than graduating class of 2026.

Yet FCPS continues to show growth at WSHS in spite of the WSHS feeder schools steadily losing enrollment each year.

Either the CIP math ain't mathing at WSHS, or there is something really fishy happening with transfers into WSHS, and possible widespread residency fraud.

WSHS needs a residency check and transfer into the school frozen.

What West Springfield needs is for the parents who are so insecure about being redistricted some day to stop pitching alternative scenarios that move around other people’s kids at other schools instead. It only serves to call renewed attention to which high school FCPS currently considers and projects to be the most overcrowded in the county: WSHS.

How about you mind your business and just give those WSHS parents credit. I didn't hear them advocating for kicking or moving anyone out. They did their freaking homework, they understood the assignment, and they pushed back hard. Do the residency checks, keep limiting transfers, keep watching the declining numbers. Improving programing before you start playing ping-ponging kids around.

Residency checks are routinely done. This is a red herring.

I have not once been asked to resubmit residency information after 10 years in the FCPS system. It is very easy to use a previous address to stay at a school. Or to use someone else's address to enroll ... someone on this site asked about doing that just the other week!

Cool anecdotal evidence.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think school board will amend with new changes from Reid’s proposal or just remove some of her changes? I hope nothing new - maybe just add to list of things to look at in future?

They might put some of the Map 4 changes back into play (WSHS comes to mind)

There are some very upset Cardinal Forest families at Reid's last minute changes that switched that Keene Mill island down near White Oaks, Shannon Station, from getting rezoned to White Oaks elementary and Lake Braddock in Map 4, to Reid rezoning them to Cardinal Forest, putting Cardinal Forest well over capacity, and also rezoning walkable Cardinal Forest neighborhoods from Cardinal Forest to farther away Keene Mill elementary.

Moving Shannon Station to White Oaks in Map 4 eliminated an attendance island and decreased West Springfield High School by around 100 students. It also lowered transportation costs by sending them to a closer school, and sent Shannon Station to equivalent schools with the same programs. The Shannon Station move was low hanging fruit and met every last one of the four rezoning mandates given to the BRAC committee by the school board.

Reid's map keeps everyone at WSHS. Reid keeps the recommendation from Map 4 to move two SPAs from Rolling Valley to Saratoga, but leaves one Rolling Valley SPA from the Parkway area at status quo (Rolling Valley > Key > Lewis), which means that instead of being a roughly 60/40 split feeder between WSHS and Lewis, Rolling Valley is now less than 10% split going to Lewis.

What Reid did to the WSHS maps by keeping Emerald Chase at WSHS and rezoning Rolling Valley the way that she did, puts a huge target on WSHS for mid cycle rezoning in the next year or two.

Sandy Anderson openly stated this at the school board meeting last week. Anderson's term goes through 2028. Rezoning WSHS has been her consistent, stated goal since soon after she was sworn in. If she can find a way to rezone neighborhoods out of WSHS in an off cycle rezoning before her term ends, and move RV into WSHS, then she will definitely try.

If you know the history and follow the process, it is clear that Reid's map, trying to keep everyone happy, is the worst case scenario for WSHS as it means continuous, mid cycle rezoning.

I sincerely hope that the school board adopts Map 4 for WSHS, for at least Shannon Station. Or, if they leave Shannon Station at WSHS, then I hope they rezone SPA 8922 along the Parkway to Saratoga, along with the rest of the Rolling Valley Lewis schools.

In my opinion, that is the best way to protect WSHS from mid cycle rezoning.

One correction to my post.

School board elections are odd years in FairfaxCounty, 2019, 2023, 2027...

The term ends in January 2028, while the election is November 2027, roughly 22 months from now.

This school board has roughly 2 years to continue to make their mark on our kids' education. I think they are counting on voters completely forgetting about this rezoning mess by the next election.

Hard to do that when Sandy Anderson promised that this is just the start and they’re planning to continue looking at a variety of schools starting in January from the superintendent’s list.

Is anyone familiar with her origin story? I’m genuinely curious why she’s so singularly focused on WSHS. How does someone wake up one day and decide that rezoning this one school becomes their life’s mission?

Some people just think they know best. They claim to "care more" than you do. "Savior" mentality.

A white suburban woman knows what is good for poor black, Latino and Asian children than their own parents. These women are the real racists.

Correct.

Those two white women who argued for more boundary changes are just trying to get more kids like theirs in their classrooms. I question their motives. The only one who seemed to be truly crunchy was the elderly woman with short hair who clearly doesn’t have kids in the school district, but even her children probably benefited from the system she is now trying to change.

So some FCPS schools are designated for black, Latino, and Asian students? That is what you can read from your statement.

Lewis is closing in on only 1500 students this year and will almost certainly start next year around 1450 if nothing is done. It is not like the other FCPS schools simply in the NUMBER of students, be they white, black, Latino, Asian, or other.

But they are doing something. They’re looking at stopping transfers out by adding programming. That’s what Reid said.

And it looks like they are going to add Bren Mar Park elementary before the 5 year review. Which also helps relieve capacity issues at Edison so is a good change.

I have no idea why we’re suddenly bringing up a NYT podcast from an entirely different cultural era … definitely not a relevant piece of media in these extremely different times.

It’s not clear it’s a good change. It quickly got tabled for this cycle whereas they went ahead with the other last-minute changes to move kids out of Glasgow/Justice to Poe/Falls Church and Holmes/Annandale. They ended up getting a lot of push back from the Beech Tree families, but they hadn’t tabled those changes like they had with Bren Mar Park.

It isn’t a change that is being proposed to add kids to Lewis - rather, it is to take kids out of Edison. Edison needs to get rid of some students in order to accommodate growth in the region - they’ve already broken ground on a large neighborhood in Kingstowne where the old Top Golf used to be and that area will for sure be zoned for Edison. Never mind when the Franconia government center gets redeveloped in a few years. I know BMP would like to end up back at Annandale but Annandale also can’t accommodate more students at this point.

All of Bren Mar Park went to Annandale before 2011. Bren Mar Park ES used to be two different schools - Edsall Park ES covered the area north of the Beltway and west of 395, and Bren Mar Park ES the area north of the Beltway an east of 395. One area is Springfield and the other Alexandria. They closed Edsall Park decades ago. To get to Edison now, the Edsall Park area has to cross both 395 and the Beltway. The Bren Mar area just has to cross the Beltway.

Annandale has capacity to take back the Edsall Park area, and that area would no longer have to cross either the Beltway or 395. The Bren Mar area is better served by Edison. None of these folks want to go to Lewis, and they should not be moved there just to give West Springfield families comfort that someone else is getting moved instead.

So you propose making a split feeder out of BMP and sending some to Annandale and keeping some at Edison? It’s not a bad idea on paper and does get some kids out of Edison - but not sure if it’s enough kids to accommodate the new neighborhoods. And then you run into the K-5/K-6 school problems as BMP is currently a K-5 school whereas the rest of Edison and all of Lewis have K-6 elementaries.

And again - this is not about adding kids to Lewis to prop it up, it’s about reducing enrollment at Edison. I would agree if Annandale could pick up all of BMP, that is where they should go. But they can’t at this point without worsening the crowding there and then creating a spillover effect into Justice, Falls Church, Woodson etc. From a purely logistical standpoint and affecting the smallest number of schools, BMP to Lewis makes sense right now.

The CIP now has West Springfield at 114% this fall and Edison at 103%. Any future adjustments should be based on updated numbers.

Annandale could probably pick up all of BMP if needed but it’s those from west of 395 who would be most receptive to that move.

Their starting point with Lewis needs to be replacing IB with AP, which would curtail transfers. As for Edison, they can monitor enrollments to see if the projected increase in students materializes. They have Edison at 109% in 2030, but that still well below West Springfield’s current and projected capacity utilization.

Some of the elementary feeders into WSHS are heading down to below 90% capacity. All of the feeders are smaller than the classes they are replacing, some significantly like class of 2030 being 150 fewer students than graduating class of 2026.

Yet FCPS continues to show growth at WSHS in spite of the WSHS feeder schools steadily losing enrollment each year.

Either the CIP math ain't mathing at WSHS, or there is something really fishy happening with transfers into WSHS, and possible widespread residency fraud.

WSHS needs a residency check and transfer into the school frozen.

What West Springfield needs is for the parents who are so insecure about being redistricted some day to stop pitching alternative scenarios that move around other people’s kids at other schools instead. It only serves to call renewed attention to which high school FCPS currently considers and projects to be the most overcrowded in the county: WSHS.

How about you mind your business and just give those WSHS parents credit. I didn't hear them advocating for kicking or moving anyone out. They did their freaking homework, they understood the assignment, and they pushed back hard. Do the residency checks, keep limiting transfers, keep watching the declining numbers. Improving programing before you start playing ping-ponging kids around.

Some of them are pushing for Bren Mar Park to get moved to Lewis. Try to keep up.

Why would any WSHS parent be pushing Bren Mar Park to go to Lewis? It is not like they are currently at WSHS and they were never considered to be moved there. I am a heavily involved WSHS parent on the boundary issue and have not heard this mentioned by anyone at any WSHS elementary pyramid.

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They might put some of the Map 4 changes back into play (WSHS comes to mind)

There are some very upset Cardinal Forest families at Reid's last minute changes that switched that Keene Mill island down near White Oaks, Shannon Station, from getting rezoned to White Oaks elementary and Lake Braddock in Map 4, to Reid rezoning them to Cardinal Forest, putting Cardinal Forest well over capacity, and also rezoning walkable Cardinal Forest neighborhoods from Cardinal Forest to farther away Keene Mill elementary.

Moving Shannon Station to White Oaks in Map 4 eliminated an attendance island and decreased West Springfield High School by around 100 students. It also lowered transportation costs by sending them to a closer school, and sent Shannon Station to equivalent schools with the same programs. The Shannon Station move was low hanging fruit and met every last one of the four rezoning mandates given to the BRAC committee by the school board.

Reid's map keeps everyone at WSHS. Reid keeps the recommendation from Map 4 to move two SPAs from Rolling Valley to Saratoga, but leaves one Rolling Valley SPA from the Parkway area at status quo (Rolling Valley > Key > Lewis), which means that instead of being a roughly 60/40 split feeder between WSHS and Lewis, Rolling Valley is now less than 10% split going to Lewis.

What Reid did to the WSHS maps by keeping Emerald Chase at WSHS and rezoning Rolling Valley the way that she did, puts a huge target on WSHS for mid cycle rezoning in the next year or two.

Sandy Anderson openly stated this at the school board meeting last week. Anderson's term goes through 2028. Rezoning WSHS has been her consistent, stated goal since soon after she was sworn in. If she can find a way to rezone neighborhoods out of WSHS in an off cycle rezoning before her term ends, and move RV into WSHS, then she will definitely try.

If you know the history and follow the process, it is clear that Reid's map, trying to keep everyone happy, is the worst case scenario for WSHS as it means continuous, mid cycle rezoning.

I sincerely hope that the school board adopts Map 4 for WSHS, for at least Shannon Station. Or, if they leave Shannon Station at WSHS, then I hope they rezone SPA 8922 along the Parkway to Saratoga, along with the rest of the Rolling Valley Lewis schools.

In my opinion, that is the best way to protect WSHS from mid cycle rezoning.

One correction to my post.

School board elections are odd years in FairfaxCounty, 2019, 2023, 2027...

The term ends in January 2028, while the election is November 2027, roughly 22 months from now.

This school board has roughly 2 years to continue to make their mark on our kids' education. I think they are counting on voters completely forgetting about this rezoning mess by the next election.

Hard to do that when Sandy Anderson promised that this is just the start and they’re planning to continue looking at a variety of schools starting in January from the superintendent’s list.

Is anyone familiar with her origin story? I’m genuinely curious why she’s so singularly focused on WSHS. How does someone wake up one day and decide that rezoning this one school becomes their life’s mission?

Some people just think they know best. They claim to "care more" than you do. "Savior" mentality.

A white suburban woman knows what is good for poor black, Latino and Asian children than their own parents. These women are the real racists.

Correct.

Those two white women who argued for more boundary changes are just trying to get more kids like theirs in their classrooms. I question their motives. The only one who seemed to be truly crunchy was the elderly woman with short hair who clearly doesn’t have kids in the school district, but even her children probably benefited from the system she is now trying to change.

So some FCPS schools are designated for black, Latino, and Asian students? That is what you can read from your statement.

Lewis is closing in on only 1500 students this year and will almost certainly start next year around 1450 if nothing is done. It is not like the other FCPS schools simply in the NUMBER of students, be they white, black, Latino, Asian, or other.

But they are doing something. They’re looking at stopping transfers out by adding programming. That’s what Reid said.

And it looks like they are going to add Bren Mar Park elementary before the 5 year review. Which also helps relieve capacity issues at Edison so is a good change.

I have no idea why we’re suddenly bringing up a NYT podcast from an entirely different cultural era … definitely not a relevant piece of media in these extremely different times.

It’s not clear it’s a good change. It quickly got tabled for this cycle whereas they went ahead with the other last-minute changes to move kids out of Glasgow/Justice to Poe/Falls Church and Holmes/Annandale. They ended up getting a lot of push back from the Beech Tree families, but they hadn’t tabled those changes like they had with Bren Mar Park.

It isn’t a change that is being proposed to add kids to Lewis - rather, it is to take kids out of Edison. Edison needs to get rid of some students in order to accommodate growth in the region - they’ve already broken ground on a large neighborhood in Kingstowne where the old Top Golf used to be and that area will for sure be zoned for Edison. Never mind when the Franconia government center gets redeveloped in a few years. I know BMP would like to end up back at Annandale but Annandale also can’t accommodate more students at this point.

All of Bren Mar Park went to Annandale before 2011. Bren Mar Park ES used to be two different schools - Edsall Park ES covered the area north of the Beltway and west of 395, and Bren Mar Park ES the area north of the Beltway an east of 395. One area is Springfield and the other Alexandria. They closed Edsall Park decades ago. To get to Edison now, the Edsall Park area has to cross both 395 and the Beltway. The Bren Mar area just has to cross the Beltway.

Annandale has capacity to take back the Edsall Park area, and that area would no longer have to cross either the Beltway or 395. The Bren Mar area is better served by Edison. None of these folks want to go to Lewis, and they should not be moved there just to give West Springfield families comfort that someone else is getting moved instead.

So you propose making a split feeder out of BMP and sending some to Annandale and keeping some at Edison? It’s not a bad idea on paper and does get some kids out of Edison - but not sure if it’s enough kids to accommodate the new neighborhoods. And then you run into the K-5/K-6 school problems as BMP is currently a K-5 school whereas the rest of Edison and all of Lewis have K-6 elementaries.

And again - this is not about adding kids to Lewis to prop it up, it’s about reducing enrollment at Edison. I would agree if Annandale could pick up all of BMP, that is where they should go. But they can’t at this point without worsening the crowding there and then creating a spillover effect into Justice, Falls Church, Woodson etc. From a purely logistical standpoint and affecting the smallest number of schools, BMP to Lewis makes sense right now.

The CIP now has West Springfield at 114% this fall and Edison at 103%. Any future adjustments should be based on updated numbers.

Annandale could probably pick up all of BMP if needed but it’s those from west of 395 who would be most receptive to that move.

Their starting point with Lewis needs to be replacing IB with AP, which would curtail transfers. As for Edison, they can monitor enrollments to see if the projected increase in students materializes. They have Edison at 109% in 2030, but that still well below West Springfield’s current and projected capacity utilization.

Some of the elementary feeders into WSHS are heading down to below 90% capacity. All of the feeders are smaller than the classes they are replacing, some significantly like class of 2030 being 150 fewer students than graduating class of 2026.

Yet FCPS continues to show growth at WSHS in spite of the WSHS feeder schools steadily losing enrollment each year.

Either the CIP math ain't mathing at WSHS, or there is something really fishy happening with transfers into WSHS, and possible widespread residency fraud.

WSHS needs a residency check and transfer into the school frozen.

What West Springfield needs is for the parents who are so insecure about being redistricted some day to stop pitching alternative scenarios that move around other people’s kids at other schools instead. It only serves to call renewed attention to which high school FCPS currently considers and projects to be the most overcrowded in the county: WSHS.

How about you mind your business and just give those WSHS parents credit. I didn't hear them advocating for kicking or moving anyone out. They did their freaking homework, they understood the assignment, and they pushed back hard. Do the residency checks, keep limiting transfers, keep watching the declining numbers. Improving programing before you start playing ping-ponging kids around.

Some of them are pushing for Bren Mar Park to get moved to Lewis. Try to keep up.

I have been to literally every single meeting and have never heard them advocate for moving Bren Mar Park, or frankly to move anyone out of the WSHS boundary. I've heard them advocate not to let any new neighbors in, which seems fair and logical. No offense, but I doubt most don't even know where Bren Mark Park is. Keep up.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think school board will amend with new changes from Reid’s proposal or just remove some of her changes? I hope nothing new - maybe just add to list of things to look at in future?

They might put some of the Map 4 changes back into play (WSHS comes to mind)

There are some very upset Cardinal Forest families at Reid's last minute changes that switched that Keene Mill island down near White Oaks, Shannon Station, from getting rezoned to White Oaks elementary and Lake Braddock in Map 4, to Reid rezoning them to Cardinal Forest, putting Cardinal Forest well over capacity, and also rezoning walkable Cardinal Forest neighborhoods from Cardinal Forest to farther away Keene Mill elementary.

Moving Shannon Station to White Oaks in Map 4 eliminated an attendance island and decreased West Springfield High School by around 100 students. It also lowered transportation costs by sending them to a closer school, and sent Shannon Station to equivalent schools with the same programs. The Shannon Station move was low hanging fruit and met every last one of the four rezoning mandates given to the BRAC committee by the school board.

Reid's map keeps everyone at WSHS. Reid keeps the recommendation from Map 4 to move two SPAs from Rolling Valley to Saratoga, but leaves one Rolling Valley SPA from the Parkway area at status quo (Rolling Valley > Key > Lewis), which means that instead of being a roughly 60/40 split feeder between WSHS and Lewis, Rolling Valley is now less than 10% split going to Lewis.

What Reid did to the WSHS maps by keeping Emerald Chase at WSHS and rezoning Rolling Valley the way that she did, puts a huge target on WSHS for mid cycle rezoning in the next year or two.

Sandy Anderson openly stated this at the school board meeting last week. Anderson's term goes through 2028. Rezoning WSHS has been her consistent, stated goal since soon after she was sworn in. If she can find a way to rezone neighborhoods out of WSHS in an off cycle rezoning before her term ends, and move RV into WSHS, then she will definitely try.

If you know the history and follow the process, it is clear that Reid's map, trying to keep everyone happy, is the worst case scenario for WSHS as it means continuous, mid cycle rezoning.

I sincerely hope that the school board adopts Map 4 for WSHS, for at least Shannon Station. Or, if they leave Shannon Station at WSHS, then I hope they rezone SPA 8922 along the Parkway to Saratoga, along with the rest of the Rolling Valley Lewis schools.

In my opinion, that is the best way to protect WSHS from mid cycle rezoning.

One correction to my post.

School board elections are odd years in FairfaxCounty, 2019, 2023, 2027...

The term ends in January 2028, while the election is November 2027, roughly 22 months from now.

This school board has roughly 2 years to continue to make their mark on our kids' education. I think they are counting on voters completely forgetting about this rezoning mess by the next election.

Hard to do that when Sandy Anderson promised that this is just the start and they’re planning to continue looking at a variety of schools starting in January from the superintendent’s list.

Is anyone familiar with her origin story? I’m genuinely curious why she’s so singularly focused on WSHS. How does someone wake up one day and decide that rezoning this one school becomes their life’s mission?

Some people just think they know best. They claim to "care more" than you do. "Savior" mentality.

A white suburban woman knows what is good for poor black, Latino and Asian children than their own parents. These women are the real racists.

Correct.

Those two white women who argued for more boundary changes are just trying to get more kids like theirs in their classrooms. I question their motives. The only one who seemed to be truly crunchy was the elderly woman with short hair who clearly doesn’t have kids in the school district, but even her children probably benefited from the system she is now trying to change.

So some FCPS schools are designated for black, Latino, and Asian students? That is what you can read from your statement.

Lewis is closing in on only 1500 students this year and will almost certainly start next year around 1450 if nothing is done. It is not like the other FCPS schools simply in the NUMBER of students, be they white, black, Latino, Asian, or other.

But they are doing something. They’re looking at stopping transfers out by adding programming. That’s what Reid said.

And it looks like they are going to add Bren Mar Park elementary before the 5 year review. Which also helps relieve capacity issues at Edison so is a good change.

I have no idea why we’re suddenly bringing up a NYT podcast from an entirely different cultural era … definitely not a relevant piece of media in these extremely different times.

It’s not clear it’s a good change. It quickly got tabled for this cycle whereas they went ahead with the other last-minute changes to move kids out of Glasgow/Justice to Poe/Falls Church and Holmes/Annandale. They ended up getting a lot of push back from the Beech Tree families, but they hadn’t tabled those changes like they had with Bren Mar Park.

It isn’t a change that is being proposed to add kids to Lewis - rather, it is to take kids out of Edison. Edison needs to get rid of some students in order to accommodate growth in the region - they’ve already broken ground on a large neighborhood in Kingstowne where the old Top Golf used to be and that area will for sure be zoned for Edison. Never mind when the Franconia government center gets redeveloped in a few years. I know BMP would like to end up back at Annandale but Annandale also can’t accommodate more students at this point.

All of Bren Mar Park went to Annandale before 2011. Bren Mar Park ES used to be two different schools - Edsall Park ES covered the area north of the Beltway and west of 395, and Bren Mar Park ES the area north of the Beltway an east of 395. One area is Springfield and the other Alexandria. They closed Edsall Park decades ago. To get to Edison now, the Edsall Park area has to cross both 395 and the Beltway. The Bren Mar area just has to cross the Beltway.

Annandale has capacity to take back the Edsall Park area, and that area would no longer have to cross either the Beltway or 395. The Bren Mar area is better served by Edison. None of these folks want to go to Lewis, and they should not be moved there just to give West Springfield families comfort that someone else is getting moved instead.

So you propose making a split feeder out of BMP and sending some to Annandale and keeping some at Edison? It’s not a bad idea on paper and does get some kids out of Edison - but not sure if it’s enough kids to accommodate the new neighborhoods. And then you run into the K-5/K-6 school problems as BMP is currently a K-5 school whereas the rest of Edison and all of Lewis have K-6 elementaries.

And again - this is not about adding kids to Lewis to prop it up, it’s about reducing enrollment at Edison. I would agree if Annandale could pick up all of BMP, that is where they should go. But they can’t at this point without worsening the crowding there and then creating a spillover effect into Justice, Falls Church, Woodson etc. From a purely logistical standpoint and affecting the smallest number of schools, BMP to Lewis makes sense right now.

The CIP now has West Springfield at 114% this fall and Edison at 103%. Any future adjustments should be based on updated numbers.

Annandale could probably pick up all of BMP if needed but it’s those from west of 395 who would be most receptive to that move.

Their starting point with Lewis needs to be replacing IB with AP, which would curtail transfers. As for Edison, they can monitor enrollments to see if the projected increase in students materializes. They have Edison at 109% in 2030, but that still well below West Springfield’s current and projected capacity utilization.

Some of the elementary feeders into WSHS are heading down to below 90% capacity. All of the feeders are smaller than the classes they are replacing, some significantly like class of 2030 being 150 fewer students than graduating class of 2026.

Yet FCPS continues to show growth at WSHS in spite of the WSHS feeder schools steadily losing enrollment each year.

Either the CIP math ain't mathing at WSHS, or there is something really fishy happening with transfers into WSHS, and possible widespread residency fraud.

WSHS needs a residency check and transfer into the school frozen.

What West Springfield needs is for the parents who are so insecure about being redistricted some day to stop pitching alternative scenarios that move around other people’s kids at other schools instead. It only serves to call renewed attention to which high school FCPS currently considers and projects to be the most overcrowded in the county: WSHS.

How about you mind your business and just give those WSHS parents credit. I didn't hear them advocating for kicking or moving anyone out. They did their freaking homework, they understood the assignment, and they pushed back hard. Do the residency checks, keep limiting transfers, keep watching the declining numbers. Improving programing before you start playing ping-ponging kids around.

Residency checks are routinely done. This is a red herring.

I have not once been asked to resubmit residency information after 10 years in the FCPS system. It is very easy to use a previous address to stay at a school. Or to use someone else's address to enroll ... someone on this site asked about doing that just the other week!

Cool anecdotal evidence.

I'm not OP, but this is a fact. Residency checks outside of first registration do not happen. Reid herself said they have literally only one person's job to check for ALL of Fairfax country.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think school board will amend with new changes from Reid’s proposal or just remove some of her changes? I hope nothing new - maybe just add to list of things to look at in future?

They might put some of the Map 4 changes back into play (WSHS comes to mind)

There are some very upset Cardinal Forest families at Reid's last minute changes that switched that Keene Mill island down near White Oaks, Shannon Station, from getting rezoned to White Oaks elementary and Lake Braddock in Map 4, to Reid rezoning them to Cardinal Forest, putting Cardinal Forest well over capacity, and also rezoning walkable Cardinal Forest neighborhoods from Cardinal Forest to farther away Keene Mill elementary.

Moving Shannon Station to White Oaks in Map 4 eliminated an attendance island and decreased West Springfield High School by around 100 students. It also lowered transportation costs by sending them to a closer school, and sent Shannon Station to equivalent schools with the same programs. The Shannon Station move was low hanging fruit and met every last one of the four rezoning mandates given to the BRAC committee by the school board.

Reid's map keeps everyone at WSHS. Reid keeps the recommendation from Map 4 to move two SPAs from Rolling Valley to Saratoga, but leaves one Rolling Valley SPA from the Parkway area at status quo (Rolling Valley > Key > Lewis), which means that instead of being a roughly 60/40 split feeder between WSHS and Lewis, Rolling Valley is now less than 10% split going to Lewis.

What Reid did to the WSHS maps by keeping Emerald Chase at WSHS and rezoning Rolling Valley the way that she did, puts a huge target on WSHS for mid cycle rezoning in the next year or two.

Sandy Anderson openly stated this at the school board meeting last week. Anderson's term goes through 2028. Rezoning WSHS has been her consistent, stated goal since soon after she was sworn in. If she can find a way to rezone neighborhoods out of WSHS in an off cycle rezoning before her term ends, and move RV into WSHS, then she will definitely try.

If you know the history and follow the process, it is clear that Reid's map, trying to keep everyone happy, is the worst case scenario for WSHS as it means continuous, mid cycle rezoning.

I sincerely hope that the school board adopts Map 4 for WSHS, for at least Shannon Station. Or, if they leave Shannon Station at WSHS, then I hope they rezone SPA 8922 along the Parkway to Saratoga, along with the rest of the Rolling Valley Lewis schools.

In my opinion, that is the best way to protect WSHS from mid cycle rezoning.

One correction to my post.

School board elections are odd years in FairfaxCounty, 2019, 2023, 2027...

The term ends in January 2028, while the election is November 2027, roughly 22 months from now.

This school board has roughly 2 years to continue to make their mark on our kids' education. I think they are counting on voters completely forgetting about this rezoning mess by the next election.

Hard to do that when Sandy Anderson promised that this is just the start and they’re planning to continue looking at a variety of schools starting in January from the superintendent’s list.

Is anyone familiar with her origin story? I’m genuinely curious why she’s so singularly focused on WSHS. How does someone wake up one day and decide that rezoning this one school becomes their life’s mission?

Some people just think they know best. They claim to "care more" than you do. "Savior" mentality.

A white suburban woman knows what is good for poor black, Latino and Asian children than their own parents. These women are the real racists.

Correct.

Those two white women who argued for more boundary changes are just trying to get more kids like theirs in their classrooms. I question their motives. The only one who seemed to be truly crunchy was the elderly woman with short hair who clearly doesn’t have kids in the school district, but even her children probably benefited from the system she is now trying to change.

So some FCPS schools are designated for black, Latino, and Asian students? That is what you can read from your statement.

Lewis is closing in on only 1500 students this year and will almost certainly start next year around 1450 if nothing is done. It is not like the other FCPS schools simply in the NUMBER of students, be they white, black, Latino, Asian, or other.

But they are doing something. They’re looking at stopping transfers out by adding programming. That’s what Reid said.

And it looks like they are going to add Bren Mar Park elementary before the 5 year review. Which also helps relieve capacity issues at Edison so is a good change.

I have no idea why we’re suddenly bringing up a NYT podcast from an entirely different cultural era … definitely not a relevant piece of media in these extremely different times.

It’s not clear it’s a good change. It quickly got tabled for this cycle whereas they went ahead with the other last-minute changes to move kids out of Glasgow/Justice to Poe/Falls Church and Holmes/Annandale. They ended up getting a lot of push back from the Beech Tree families, but they hadn’t tabled those changes like they had with Bren Mar Park.

It isn’t a change that is being proposed to add kids to Lewis - rather, it is to take kids out of Edison. Edison needs to get rid of some students in order to accommodate growth in the region - they’ve already broken ground on a large neighborhood in Kingstowne where the old Top Golf used to be and that area will for sure be zoned for Edison. Never mind when the Franconia government center gets redeveloped in a few years. I know BMP would like to end up back at Annandale but Annandale also can’t accommodate more students at this point.

All of Bren Mar Park went to Annandale before 2011. Bren Mar Park ES used to be two different schools - Edsall Park ES covered the area north of the Beltway and west of 395, and Bren Mar Park ES the area north of the Beltway an east of 395. One area is Springfield and the other Alexandria. They closed Edsall Park decades ago. To get to Edison now, the Edsall Park area has to cross both 395 and the Beltway. The Bren Mar area just has to cross the Beltway.

Annandale has capacity to take back the Edsall Park area, and that area would no longer have to cross either the Beltway or 395. The Bren Mar area is better served by Edison. None of these folks want to go to Lewis, and they should not be moved there just to give West Springfield families comfort that someone else is getting moved instead.

So you propose making a split feeder out of BMP and sending some to Annandale and keeping some at Edison? It’s not a bad idea on paper and does get some kids out of Edison - but not sure if it’s enough kids to accommodate the new neighborhoods. And then you run into the K-5/K-6 school problems as BMP is currently a K-5 school whereas the rest of Edison and all of Lewis have K-6 elementaries.

And again - this is not about adding kids to Lewis to prop it up, it’s about reducing enrollment at Edison. I would agree if Annandale could pick up all of BMP, that is where they should go. But they can’t at this point without worsening the crowding there and then creating a spillover effect into Justice, Falls Church, Woodson etc. From a purely logistical standpoint and affecting the smallest number of schools, BMP to Lewis makes sense right now.

The CIP now has West Springfield at 114% this fall and Edison at 103%. Any future adjustments should be based on updated numbers.

Annandale could probably pick up all of BMP if needed but it’s those from west of 395 who would be most receptive to that move.

Their starting point with Lewis needs to be replacing IB with AP, which would curtail transfers. As for Edison, they can monitor enrollments to see if the projected increase in students materializes. They have Edison at 109% in 2030, but that still well below West Springfield’s current and projected capacity utilization.

Some of the elementary feeders into WSHS are heading down to below 90% capacity. All of the feeders are smaller than the classes they are replacing, some significantly like class of 2030 being 150 fewer students than graduating class of 2026.

Yet FCPS continues to show growth at WSHS in spite of the WSHS feeder schools steadily losing enrollment each year.

Either the CIP math ain't mathing at WSHS, or there is something really fishy happening with transfers into WSHS, and possible widespread residency fraud.

WSHS needs a residency check and transfer into the school frozen.

What West Springfield needs is for the parents who are so insecure about being redistricted some day to stop pitching alternative scenarios that move around other people’s kids at other schools instead. It only serves to call renewed attention to which high school FCPS currently considers and projects to be the most overcrowded in the county: WSHS.

How about you mind your business and just give those WSHS parents credit. I didn't hear them advocating for kicking or moving anyone out. They did their freaking homework, they understood the assignment, and they pushed back hard. Do the residency checks, keep limiting transfers, keep watching the declining numbers. Improving programing before you start playing ping-ponging kids around.

Residency checks are routinely done. This is a red herring.

I have not once been asked to resubmit residency information after 10 years in the FCPS system. It is very easy to use a previous address to stay at a school. Or to use someone else's address to enroll ... someone on this site asked about doing that just the other week!

Cool anecdotal evidence.

I'm not OP, but this is a fact. Residency checks outside of first registration do not happen. Reid herself said they have literally only one person's job to check for ALL of Fairfax country.

False.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think school board will amend with new changes from Reid’s proposal or just remove some of her changes? I hope nothing new - maybe just add to list of things to look at in future?

They might put some of the Map 4 changes back into play (WSHS comes to mind)

There are some very upset Cardinal Forest families at Reid's last minute changes that switched that Keene Mill island down near White Oaks, Shannon Station, from getting rezoned to White Oaks elementary and Lake Braddock in Map 4, to Reid rezoning them to Cardinal Forest, putting Cardinal Forest well over capacity, and also rezoning walkable Cardinal Forest neighborhoods from Cardinal Forest to farther away Keene Mill elementary.

Moving Shannon Station to White Oaks in Map 4 eliminated an attendance island and decreased West Springfield High School by around 100 students. It also lowered transportation costs by sending them to a closer school, and sent Shannon Station to equivalent schools with the same programs. The Shannon Station move was low hanging fruit and met every last one of the four rezoning mandates given to the BRAC committee by the school board.

Reid's map keeps everyone at WSHS. Reid keeps the recommendation from Map 4 to move two SPAs from Rolling Valley to Saratoga, but leaves one Rolling Valley SPA from the Parkway area at status quo (Rolling Valley > Key > Lewis), which means that instead of being a roughly 60/40 split feeder between WSHS and Lewis, Rolling Valley is now less than 10% split going to Lewis.

What Reid did to the WSHS maps by keeping Emerald Chase at WSHS and rezoning Rolling Valley the way that she did, puts a huge target on WSHS for mid cycle rezoning in the next year or two.

Sandy Anderson openly stated this at the school board meeting last week. Anderson's term goes through 2028. Rezoning WSHS has been her consistent, stated goal since soon after she was sworn in. If she can find a way to rezone neighborhoods out of WSHS in an off cycle rezoning before her term ends, and move RV into WSHS, then she will definitely try.

If you know the history and follow the process, it is clear that Reid's map, trying to keep everyone happy, is the worst case scenario for WSHS as it means continuous, mid cycle rezoning.

I sincerely hope that the school board adopts Map 4 for WSHS, for at least Shannon Station. Or, if they leave Shannon Station at WSHS, then I hope they rezone SPA 8922 along the Parkway to Saratoga, along with the rest of the Rolling Valley Lewis schools.

In my opinion, that is the best way to protect WSHS from mid cycle rezoning.

One correction to my post.

School board elections are odd years in FairfaxCounty, 2019, 2023, 2027...

The term ends in January 2028, while the election is November 2027, roughly 22 months from now.

This school board has roughly 2 years to continue to make their mark on our kids' education. I think they are counting on voters completely forgetting about this rezoning mess by the next election.

Hard to do that when Sandy Anderson promised that this is just the start and they’re planning to continue looking at a variety of schools starting in January from the superintendent’s list.

Is anyone familiar with her origin story? I’m genuinely curious why she’s so singularly focused on WSHS. How does someone wake up one day and decide that rezoning this one school becomes their life’s mission?

Some people just think they know best. They claim to "care more" than you do. "Savior" mentality.

A white suburban woman knows what is good for poor black, Latino and Asian children than their own parents. These women are the real racists.

Correct.

Those two white women who argued for more boundary changes are just trying to get more kids like theirs in their classrooms. I question their motives. The only one who seemed to be truly crunchy was the elderly woman with short hair who clearly doesn’t have kids in the school district, but even her children probably benefited from the system she is now trying to change.

So some FCPS schools are designated for black, Latino, and Asian students? That is what you can read from your statement.

Lewis is closing in on only 1500 students this year and will almost certainly start next year around 1450 if nothing is done. It is not like the other FCPS schools simply in the NUMBER of students, be they white, black, Latino, Asian, or other.

But they are doing something. They’re looking at stopping transfers out by adding programming. That’s what Reid said.

And it looks like they are going to add Bren Mar Park elementary before the 5 year review. Which also helps relieve capacity issues at Edison so is a good change.

I have no idea why we’re suddenly bringing up a NYT podcast from an entirely different cultural era … definitely not a relevant piece of media in these extremely different times.

It’s not clear it’s a good change. It quickly got tabled for this cycle whereas they went ahead with the other last-minute changes to move kids out of Glasgow/Justice to Poe/Falls Church and Holmes/Annandale. They ended up getting a lot of push back from the Beech Tree families, but they hadn’t tabled those changes like they had with Bren Mar Park.

It isn’t a change that is being proposed to add kids to Lewis - rather, it is to take kids out of Edison. Edison needs to get rid of some students in order to accommodate growth in the region - they’ve already broken ground on a large neighborhood in Kingstowne where the old Top Golf used to be and that area will for sure be zoned for Edison. Never mind when the Franconia government center gets redeveloped in a few years. I know BMP would like to end up back at Annandale but Annandale also can’t accommodate more students at this point.

All of Bren Mar Park went to Annandale before 2011. Bren Mar Park ES used to be two different schools - Edsall Park ES covered the area north of the Beltway and west of 395, and Bren Mar Park ES the area north of the Beltway an east of 395. One area is Springfield and the other Alexandria. They closed Edsall Park decades ago. To get to Edison now, the Edsall Park area has to cross both 395 and the Beltway. The Bren Mar area just has to cross the Beltway.

Annandale has capacity to take back the Edsall Park area, and that area would no longer have to cross either the Beltway or 395. The Bren Mar area is better served by Edison. None of these folks want to go to Lewis, and they should not be moved there just to give West Springfield families comfort that someone else is getting moved instead.

So you propose making a split feeder out of BMP and sending some to Annandale and keeping some at Edison? It’s not a bad idea on paper and does get some kids out of Edison - but not sure if it’s enough kids to accommodate the new neighborhoods. And then you run into the K-5/K-6 school problems as BMP is currently a K-5 school whereas the rest of Edison and all of Lewis have K-6 elementaries.

And again - this is not about adding kids to Lewis to prop it up, it’s about reducing enrollment at Edison. I would agree if Annandale could pick up all of BMP, that is where they should go. But they can’t at this point without worsening the crowding there and then creating a spillover effect into Justice, Falls Church, Woodson etc. From a purely logistical standpoint and affecting the smallest number of schools, BMP to Lewis makes sense right now.

The CIP now has West Springfield at 114% this fall and Edison at 103%. Any future adjustments should be based on updated numbers.

Annandale could probably pick up all of BMP if needed but it’s those from west of 395 who would be most receptive to that move.

Their starting point with Lewis needs to be replacing IB with AP, which would curtail transfers. As for Edison, they can monitor enrollments to see if the projected increase in students materializes. They have Edison at 109% in 2030, but that still well below West Springfield’s current and projected capacity utilization.

Some of the elementary feeders into WSHS are heading down to below 90% capacity. All of the feeders are smaller than the classes they are replacing, some significantly like class of 2030 being 150 fewer students than graduating class of 2026.

Yet FCPS continues to show growth at WSHS in spite of the WSHS feeder schools steadily losing enrollment each year.

Either the CIP math ain't mathing at WSHS, or there is something really fishy happening with transfers into WSHS, and possible widespread residency fraud.

WSHS needs a residency check and transfer into the school frozen.

What West Springfield needs is for the parents who are so insecure about being redistricted some day to stop pitching alternative scenarios that move around other people’s kids at other schools instead. It only serves to call renewed attention to which high school FCPS currently considers and projects to be the most overcrowded in the county: WSHS.

How about you mind your business and just give those WSHS parents credit. I didn't hear them advocating for kicking or moving anyone out. They did their freaking homework, they understood the assignment, and they pushed back hard. Do the residency checks, keep limiting transfers, keep watching the declining numbers. Improving programing before you start playing ping-ponging kids around.

Some of them are pushing for Bren Mar Park to get moved to Lewis. Try to keep up.

I have been to literally every single meeting and have never heard them advocate for moving Bren Mar Park, or frankly to move anyone out of the WSHS boundary. I've heard them advocate not to let any new neighbors in, which seems fair and logical. No offense, but I doubt most don't even know where Bren Mark Park is. Keep up.

They are doing it on this thread today. Sorry, honey, you’re not fooling anyone.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think school board will amend with new changes from Reid’s proposal or just remove some of her changes? I hope nothing new - maybe just add to list of things to look at in future?

They might put some of the Map 4 changes back into play (WSHS comes to mind)

There are some very upset Cardinal Forest families at Reid's last minute changes that switched that Keene Mill island down near White Oaks, Shannon Station, from getting rezoned to White Oaks elementary and Lake Braddock in Map 4, to Reid rezoning them to Cardinal Forest, putting Cardinal Forest well over capacity, and also rezoning walkable Cardinal Forest neighborhoods from Cardinal Forest to farther away Keene Mill elementary.

Moving Shannon Station to White Oaks in Map 4 eliminated an attendance island and decreased West Springfield High School by around 100 students. It also lowered transportation costs by sending them to a closer school, and sent Shannon Station to equivalent schools with the same programs. The Shannon Station move was low hanging fruit and met every last one of the four rezoning mandates given to the BRAC committee by the school board.

Reid's map keeps everyone at WSHS. Reid keeps the recommendation from Map 4 to move two SPAs from Rolling Valley to Saratoga, but leaves one Rolling Valley SPA from the Parkway area at status quo (Rolling Valley > Key > Lewis), which means that instead of being a roughly 60/40 split feeder between WSHS and Lewis, Rolling Valley is now less than 10% split going to Lewis.

What Reid did to the WSHS maps by keeping Emerald Chase at WSHS and rezoning Rolling Valley the way that she did, puts a huge target on WSHS for mid cycle rezoning in the next year or two.

Sandy Anderson openly stated this at the school board meeting last week. Anderson's term goes through 2028. Rezoning WSHS has been her consistent, stated goal since soon after she was sworn in. If she can find a way to rezone neighborhoods out of WSHS in an off cycle rezoning before her term ends, and move RV into WSHS, then she will definitely try.

If you know the history and follow the process, it is clear that Reid's map, trying to keep everyone happy, is the worst case scenario for WSHS as it means continuous, mid cycle rezoning.

I sincerely hope that the school board adopts Map 4 for WSHS, for at least Shannon Station. Or, if they leave Shannon Station at WSHS, then I hope they rezone SPA 8922 along the Parkway to Saratoga, along with the rest of the Rolling Valley Lewis schools.

In my opinion, that is the best way to protect WSHS from mid cycle rezoning.

One correction to my post.

School board elections are odd years in FairfaxCounty, 2019, 2023, 2027...

The term ends in January 2028, while the election is November 2027, roughly 22 months from now.

This school board has roughly 2 years to continue to make their mark on our kids' education. I think they are counting on voters completely forgetting about this rezoning mess by the next election.

Hard to do that when Sandy Anderson promised that this is just the start and they’re planning to continue looking at a variety of schools starting in January from the superintendent’s list.

Is anyone familiar with her origin story? I’m genuinely curious why she’s so singularly focused on WSHS. How does someone wake up one day and decide that rezoning this one school becomes their life’s mission?

Some people just think they know best. They claim to "care more" than you do. "Savior" mentality.

A white suburban woman knows what is good for poor black, Latino and Asian children than their own parents. These women are the real racists.

Correct.

Those two white women who argued for more boundary changes are just trying to get more kids like theirs in their classrooms. I question their motives. The only one who seemed to be truly crunchy was the elderly woman with short hair who clearly doesn’t have kids in the school district, but even her children probably benefited from the system she is now trying to change.

So some FCPS schools are designated for black, Latino, and Asian students? That is what you can read from your statement.

Lewis is closing in on only 1500 students this year and will almost certainly start next year around 1450 if nothing is done. It is not like the other FCPS schools simply in the NUMBER of students, be they white, black, Latino, Asian, or other.

But they are doing something. They’re looking at stopping transfers out by adding programming. That’s what Reid said.

And it looks like they are going to add Bren Mar Park elementary before the 5 year review. Which also helps relieve capacity issues at Edison so is a good change.

I have no idea why we’re suddenly bringing up a NYT podcast from an entirely different cultural era … definitely not a relevant piece of media in these extremely different times.

It’s not clear it’s a good change. It quickly got tabled for this cycle whereas they went ahead with the other last-minute changes to move kids out of Glasgow/Justice to Poe/Falls Church and Holmes/Annandale. They ended up getting a lot of push back from the Beech Tree families, but they hadn’t tabled those changes like they had with Bren Mar Park.

It isn’t a change that is being proposed to add kids to Lewis - rather, it is to take kids out of Edison. Edison needs to get rid of some students in order to accommodate growth in the region - they’ve already broken ground on a large neighborhood in Kingstowne where the old Top Golf used to be and that area will for sure be zoned for Edison. Never mind when the Franconia government center gets redeveloped in a few years. I know BMP would like to end up back at Annandale but Annandale also can’t accommodate more students at this point.

All of Bren Mar Park went to Annandale before 2011. Bren Mar Park ES used to be two different schools - Edsall Park ES covered the area north of the Beltway and west of 395, and Bren Mar Park ES the area north of the Beltway an east of 395. One area is Springfield and the other Alexandria. They closed Edsall Park decades ago. To get to Edison now, the Edsall Park area has to cross both 395 and the Beltway. The Bren Mar area just has to cross the Beltway.

Annandale has capacity to take back the Edsall Park area, and that area would no longer have to cross either the Beltway or 395. The Bren Mar area is better served by Edison. None of these folks want to go to Lewis, and they should not be moved there just to give West Springfield families comfort that someone else is getting moved instead.

So you propose making a split feeder out of BMP and sending some to Annandale and keeping some at Edison? It’s not a bad idea on paper and does get some kids out of Edison - but not sure if it’s enough kids to accommodate the new neighborhoods. And then you run into the K-5/K-6 school problems as BMP is currently a K-5 school whereas the rest of Edison and all of Lewis have K-6 elementaries.

And again - this is not about adding kids to Lewis to prop it up, it’s about reducing enrollment at Edison. I would agree if Annandale could pick up all of BMP, that is where they should go. But they can’t at this point without worsening the crowding there and then creating a spillover effect into Justice, Falls Church, Woodson etc. From a purely logistical standpoint and affecting the smallest number of schools, BMP to Lewis makes sense right now.

The CIP now has West Springfield at 114% this fall and Edison at 103%. Any future adjustments should be based on updated numbers.

Annandale could probably pick up all of BMP if needed but it’s those from west of 395 who would be most receptive to that move.

Their starting point with Lewis needs to be replacing IB with AP, which would curtail transfers. As for Edison, they can monitor enrollments to see if the projected increase in students materializes. They have Edison at 109% in 2030, but that still well below West Springfield’s current and projected capacity utilization.

Some of the elementary feeders into WSHS are heading down to below 90% capacity. All of the feeders are smaller than the classes they are replacing, some significantly like class of 2030 being 150 fewer students than graduating class of 2026.

Yet FCPS continues to show growth at WSHS in spite of the WSHS feeder schools steadily losing enrollment each year.

Either the CIP math ain't mathing at WSHS, or there is something really fishy happening with transfers into WSHS, and possible widespread residency fraud.

WSHS needs a residency check and transfer into the school frozen.

What West Springfield needs is for the parents who are so insecure about being redistricted some day to stop pitching alternative scenarios that move around other people’s kids at other schools instead. It only serves to call renewed attention to which high school FCPS currently considers and projects to be the most overcrowded in the county: WSHS.

How about you mind your business and just give those WSHS parents credit. I didn't hear them advocating for kicking or moving anyone out. They did their freaking homework, they understood the assignment, and they pushed back hard. Do the residency checks, keep limiting transfers, keep watching the declining numbers. Improving programing before you start playing ping-ponging kids around.

Residency checks are routinely done. This is a red herring.

I have not once been asked to resubmit residency information after 10 years in the FCPS system. It is very easy to use a previous address to stay at a school. Or to use someone else's address to enroll ... someone on this site asked about doing that just the other week!

Cool anecdotal evidence.

I'm not OP, but this is a fact. Residency checks outside of first registration do not happen. Reid herself said they have literally only one person's job to check for ALL of Fairfax country.

False.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think school board will amend with new changes from Reid’s proposal or just remove some of her changes? I hope nothing new - maybe just add to list of things to look at in future?

They might put some of the Map 4 changes back into play (WSHS comes to mind)

There are some very upset Cardinal Forest families at Reid's last minute changes that switched that Keene Mill island down near White Oaks, Shannon Station, from getting rezoned to White Oaks elementary and Lake Braddock in Map 4, to Reid rezoning them to Cardinal Forest, putting Cardinal Forest well over capacity, and also rezoning walkable Cardinal Forest neighborhoods from Cardinal Forest to farther away Keene Mill elementary.

Moving Shannon Station to White Oaks in Map 4 eliminated an attendance island and decreased West Springfield High School by around 100 students. It also lowered transportation costs by sending them to a closer school, and sent Shannon Station to equivalent schools with the same programs. The Shannon Station move was low hanging fruit and met every last one of the four rezoning mandates given to the BRAC committee by the school board.

Reid's map keeps everyone at WSHS. Reid keeps the recommendation from Map 4 to move two SPAs from Rolling Valley to Saratoga, but leaves one Rolling Valley SPA from the Parkway area at status quo (Rolling Valley > Key > Lewis), which means that instead of being a roughly 60/40 split feeder between WSHS and Lewis, Rolling Valley is now less than 10% split going to Lewis.

What Reid did to the WSHS maps by keeping Emerald Chase at WSHS and rezoning Rolling Valley the way that she did, puts a huge target on WSHS for mid cycle rezoning in the next year or two.

Sandy Anderson openly stated this at the school board meeting last week. Anderson's term goes through 2028. Rezoning WSHS has been her consistent, stated goal since soon after she was sworn in. If she can find a way to rezone neighborhoods out of WSHS in an off cycle rezoning before her term ends, and move RV into WSHS, then she will definitely try.

If you know the history and follow the process, it is clear that Reid's map, trying to keep everyone happy, is the worst case scenario for WSHS as it means continuous, mid cycle rezoning.

I sincerely hope that the school board adopts Map 4 for WSHS, for at least Shannon Station. Or, if they leave Shannon Station at WSHS, then I hope they rezone SPA 8922 along the Parkway to Saratoga, along with the rest of the Rolling Valley Lewis schools.

In my opinion, that is the best way to protect WSHS from mid cycle rezoning.

One correction to my post.

School board elections are odd years in FairfaxCounty, 2019, 2023, 2027...

The term ends in January 2028, while the election is November 2027, roughly 22 months from now.

This school board has roughly 2 years to continue to make their mark on our kids' education. I think they are counting on voters completely forgetting about this rezoning mess by the next election.

Hard to do that when Sandy Anderson promised that this is just the start and they’re planning to continue looking at a variety of schools starting in January from the superintendent’s list.

Is anyone familiar with her origin story? I’m genuinely curious why she’s so singularly focused on WSHS. How does someone wake up one day and decide that rezoning this one school becomes their life’s mission?

Some people just think they know best. They claim to "care more" than you do. "Savior" mentality.

A white suburban woman knows what is good for poor black, Latino and Asian children than their own parents. These women are the real racists.

Correct.

Those two white women who argued for more boundary changes are just trying to get more kids like theirs in their classrooms. I question their motives. The only one who seemed to be truly crunchy was the elderly woman with short hair who clearly doesn’t have kids in the school district, but even her children probably benefited from the system she is now trying to change.

So some FCPS schools are designated for black, Latino, and Asian students? That is what you can read from your statement.

Lewis is closing in on only 1500 students this year and will almost certainly start next year around 1450 if nothing is done. It is not like the other FCPS schools simply in the NUMBER of students, be they white, black, Latino, Asian, or other.

But they are doing something. They’re looking at stopping transfers out by adding programming. That’s what Reid said.

And it looks like they are going to add Bren Mar Park elementary before the 5 year review. Which also helps relieve capacity issues at Edison so is a good change.

I have no idea why we’re suddenly bringing up a NYT podcast from an entirely different cultural era … definitely not a relevant piece of media in these extremely different times.

It’s not clear it’s a good change. It quickly got tabled for this cycle whereas they went ahead with the other last-minute changes to move kids out of Glasgow/Justice to Poe/Falls Church and Holmes/Annandale. They ended up getting a lot of push back from the Beech Tree families, but they hadn’t tabled those changes like they had with Bren Mar Park.

It isn’t a change that is being proposed to add kids to Lewis - rather, it is to take kids out of Edison. Edison needs to get rid of some students in order to accommodate growth in the region - they’ve already broken ground on a large neighborhood in Kingstowne where the old Top Golf used to be and that area will for sure be zoned for Edison. Never mind when the Franconia government center gets redeveloped in a few years. I know BMP would like to end up back at Annandale but Annandale also can’t accommodate more students at this point.

All of Bren Mar Park went to Annandale before 2011. Bren Mar Park ES used to be two different schools - Edsall Park ES covered the area north of the Beltway and west of 395, and Bren Mar Park ES the area north of the Beltway an east of 395. One area is Springfield and the other Alexandria. They closed Edsall Park decades ago. To get to Edison now, the Edsall Park area has to cross both 395 and the Beltway. The Bren Mar area just has to cross the Beltway.

Annandale has capacity to take back the Edsall Park area, and that area would no longer have to cross either the Beltway or 395. The Bren Mar area is better served by Edison. None of these folks want to go to Lewis, and they should not be moved there just to give West Springfield families comfort that someone else is getting moved instead.

So you propose making a split feeder out of BMP and sending some to Annandale and keeping some at Edison? It’s not a bad idea on paper and does get some kids out of Edison - but not sure if it’s enough kids to accommodate the new neighborhoods. And then you run into the K-5/K-6 school problems as BMP is currently a K-5 school whereas the rest of Edison and all of Lewis have K-6 elementaries.

And again - this is not about adding kids to Lewis to prop it up, it’s about reducing enrollment at Edison. I would agree if Annandale could pick up all of BMP, that is where they should go. But they can’t at this point without worsening the crowding there and then creating a spillover effect into Justice, Falls Church, Woodson etc. From a purely logistical standpoint and affecting the smallest number of schools, BMP to Lewis makes sense right now.

The CIP now has West Springfield at 114% this fall and Edison at 103%. Any future adjustments should be based on updated numbers.

Annandale could probably pick up all of BMP if needed but it’s those from west of 395 who would be most receptive to that move.

Their starting point with Lewis needs to be replacing IB with AP, which would curtail transfers. As for Edison, they can monitor enrollments to see if the projected increase in students materializes. They have Edison at 109% in 2030, but that still well below West Springfield’s current and projected capacity utilization.

Some of the elementary feeders into WSHS are heading down to below 90% capacity. All of the feeders are smaller than the classes they are replacing, some significantly like class of 2030 being 150 fewer students than graduating class of 2026.

Yet FCPS continues to show growth at WSHS in spite of the WSHS feeder schools steadily losing enrollment each year.

Either the CIP math ain't mathing at WSHS, or there is something really fishy happening with transfers into WSHS, and possible widespread residency fraud.

WSHS needs a residency check and transfer into the school frozen.

What West Springfield needs is for the parents who are so insecure about being redistricted some day to stop pitching alternative scenarios that move around other people’s kids at other schools instead. It only serves to call renewed attention to which high school FCPS currently considers and projects to be the most overcrowded in the county: WSHS.

How about you mind your business and just give those WSHS parents credit. I didn't hear them advocating for kicking or moving anyone out. They did their freaking homework, they understood the assignment, and they pushed back hard. Do the residency checks, keep limiting transfers, keep watching the declining numbers. Improving programing before you start playing ping-ponging kids around.

Some of them are pushing for Bren Mar Park to get moved to Lewis. Try to keep up.

I have been to literally every single meeting and have never heard them advocate for moving Bren Mar Park, or frankly to move anyone out of the WSHS boundary. I've heard them advocate not to let any new neighbors in, which seems fair and logical. No offense, but I doubt most don't even know where Bren Mark Park is. Keep up.

They are doing it on this thread today. Sorry, honey, you’re not fooling anyone.

Humm..an anonymous forum where anyone from anyway can pretend to be whoever they want, vs. What WSHS parents have said in public forums and meetings over the last 18 months? Where you born dense or did it come with age?

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think school board will amend with new changes from Reid’s proposal or just remove some of her changes? I hope nothing new - maybe just add to list of things to look at in future?

They might put some of the Map 4 changes back into play (WSHS comes to mind)

There are some very upset Cardinal Forest families at Reid's last minute changes that switched that Keene Mill island down near White Oaks, Shannon Station, from getting rezoned to White Oaks elementary and Lake Braddock in Map 4, to Reid rezoning them to Cardinal Forest, putting Cardinal Forest well over capacity, and also rezoning walkable Cardinal Forest neighborhoods from Cardinal Forest to farther away Keene Mill elementary.

Moving Shannon Station to White Oaks in Map 4 eliminated an attendance island and decreased West Springfield High School by around 100 students. It also lowered transportation costs by sending them to a closer school, and sent Shannon Station to equivalent schools with the same programs. The Shannon Station move was low hanging fruit and met every last one of the four rezoning mandates given to the BRAC committee by the school board.

Reid's map keeps everyone at WSHS. Reid keeps the recommendation from Map 4 to move two SPAs from Rolling Valley to Saratoga, but leaves one Rolling Valley SPA from the Parkway area at status quo (Rolling Valley > Key > Lewis), which means that instead of being a roughly 60/40 split feeder between WSHS and Lewis, Rolling Valley is now less than 10% split going to Lewis.

What Reid did to the WSHS maps by keeping Emerald Chase at WSHS and rezoning Rolling Valley the way that she did, puts a huge target on WSHS for mid cycle rezoning in the next year or two.

Sandy Anderson openly stated this at the school board meeting last week. Anderson's term goes through 2028. Rezoning WSHS has been her consistent, stated goal since soon after she was sworn in. If she can find a way to rezone neighborhoods out of WSHS in an off cycle rezoning before her term ends, and move RV into WSHS, then she will definitely try.

If you know the history and follow the process, it is clear that Reid's map, trying to keep everyone happy, is the worst case scenario for WSHS as it means continuous, mid cycle rezoning.

I sincerely hope that the school board adopts Map 4 for WSHS, for at least Shannon Station. Or, if they leave Shannon Station at WSHS, then I hope they rezone SPA 8922 along the Parkway to Saratoga, along with the rest of the Rolling Valley Lewis schools.

In my opinion, that is the best way to protect WSHS from mid cycle rezoning.

One correction to my post.

School board elections are odd years in FairfaxCounty, 2019, 2023, 2027...

The term ends in January 2028, while the election is November 2027, roughly 22 months from now.

This school board has roughly 2 years to continue to make their mark on our kids' education. I think they are counting on voters completely forgetting about this rezoning mess by the next election.

Hard to do that when Sandy Anderson promised that this is just the start and they’re planning to continue looking at a variety of schools starting in January from the superintendent’s list.

Is anyone familiar with her origin story? I’m genuinely curious why she’s so singularly focused on WSHS. How does someone wake up one day and decide that rezoning this one school becomes their life’s mission?

Some people just think they know best. They claim to "care more" than you do. "Savior" mentality.

A white suburban woman knows what is good for poor black, Latino and Asian children than their own parents. These women are the real racists.

Correct.

Those two white women who argued for more boundary changes are just trying to get more kids like theirs in their classrooms. I question their motives. The only one who seemed to be truly crunchy was the elderly woman with short hair who clearly doesn’t have kids in the school district, but even her children probably benefited from the system she is now trying to change.

So some FCPS schools are designated for black, Latino, and Asian students? That is what you can read from your statement.

Lewis is closing in on only 1500 students this year and will almost certainly start next year around 1450 if nothing is done. It is not like the other FCPS schools simply in the NUMBER of students, be they white, black, Latino, Asian, or other.

But they are doing something. They’re looking at stopping transfers out by adding programming. That’s what Reid said.

And it looks like they are going to add Bren Mar Park elementary before the 5 year review. Which also helps relieve capacity issues at Edison so is a good change.

I have no idea why we’re suddenly bringing up a NYT podcast from an entirely different cultural era … definitely not a relevant piece of media in these extremely different times.

It’s not clear it’s a good change. It quickly got tabled for this cycle whereas they went ahead with the other last-minute changes to move kids out of Glasgow/Justice to Poe/Falls Church and Holmes/Annandale. They ended up getting a lot of push back from the Beech Tree families, but they hadn’t tabled those changes like they had with Bren Mar Park.

It isn’t a change that is being proposed to add kids to Lewis - rather, it is to take kids out of Edison. Edison needs to get rid of some students in order to accommodate growth in the region - they’ve already broken ground on a large neighborhood in Kingstowne where the old Top Golf used to be and that area will for sure be zoned for Edison. Never mind when the Franconia government center gets redeveloped in a few years. I know BMP would like to end up back at Annandale but Annandale also can’t accommodate more students at this point.

All of Bren Mar Park went to Annandale before 2011. Bren Mar Park ES used to be two different schools - Edsall Park ES covered the area north of the Beltway and west of 395, and Bren Mar Park ES the area north of the Beltway an east of 395. One area is Springfield and the other Alexandria. They closed Edsall Park decades ago. To get to Edison now, the Edsall Park area has to cross both 395 and the Beltway. The Bren Mar area just has to cross the Beltway.

Annandale has capacity to take back the Edsall Park area, and that area would no longer have to cross either the Beltway or 395. The Bren Mar area is better served by Edison. None of these folks want to go to Lewis, and they should not be moved there just to give West Springfield families comfort that someone else is getting moved instead.

So you propose making a split feeder out of BMP and sending some to Annandale and keeping some at Edison? It’s not a bad idea on paper and does get some kids out of Edison - but not sure if it’s enough kids to accommodate the new neighborhoods. And then you run into the K-5/K-6 school problems as BMP is currently a K-5 school whereas the rest of Edison and all of Lewis have K-6 elementaries.

And again - this is not about adding kids to Lewis to prop it up, it’s about reducing enrollment at Edison. I would agree if Annandale could pick up all of BMP, that is where they should go. But they can’t at this point without worsening the crowding there and then creating a spillover effect into Justice, Falls Church, Woodson etc. From a purely logistical standpoint and affecting the smallest number of schools, BMP to Lewis makes sense right now.

The CIP now has West Springfield at 114% this fall and Edison at 103%. Any future adjustments should be based on updated numbers.

Annandale could probably pick up all of BMP if needed but it’s those from west of 395 who would be most receptive to that move.

Their starting point with Lewis needs to be replacing IB with AP, which would curtail transfers. As for Edison, they can monitor enrollments to see if the projected increase in students materializes. They have Edison at 109% in 2030, but that still well below West Springfield’s current and projected capacity utilization.

Some of the elementary feeders into WSHS are heading down to below 90% capacity. All of the feeders are smaller than the classes they are replacing, some significantly like class of 2030 being 150 fewer students than graduating class of 2026.

Yet FCPS continues to show growth at WSHS in spite of the WSHS feeder schools steadily losing enrollment each year.

Either the CIP math ain't mathing at WSHS, or there is something really fishy happening with transfers into WSHS, and possible widespread residency fraud.

WSHS needs a residency check and transfer into the school frozen.

What West Springfield needs is for the parents who are so insecure about being redistricted some day to stop pitching alternative scenarios that move around other people’s kids at other schools instead. It only serves to call renewed attention to which high school FCPS currently considers and projects to be the most overcrowded in the county: WSHS.

Yeah, no parents at WSHS are pitching other kids to get moved.

The only thing WSHS parents are asking is that our boundaries are left aline with no rezoning, that no kids are added to WSHS, that FCPS freezes transfers into WSHS while it is overcapacity by enforcing written district policy that if a school is closed to transfers, any students wanting a special program transfer must choose a different school, and that residency is checked at the transition years of 7th and 9th grade, with a full residency check of any high school slated for capacity rezoning.

The only thing they have asked related to other schools is that if a school has hundreds of students transferring out, then FCPS needs to review the causes of the transfers out (IB usually) and add programs (full slate of AP classes, evsn if the classes are in the 10-15 student range) to fix whatever issues are causing cetain schools to lose 10%-20% of their zoned population.

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DP. I am a little skeptical about how many are abusing the system. I am confident that some are--but I doubt it is a significant number--although, it is fraud and any fraud is too much.

As for checking, I think it would be ridiculous to have a staff checking every student. However, the schools should be responsible for reporting any situations that they question. That is where it would be found. If other parents are reporting it to the school, the school should report it for investigation.

One person should be enough.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think school board will amend with new changes from Reid’s proposal or just remove some of her changes? I hope nothing new - maybe just add to list of things to look at in future?

They might put some of the Map 4 changes back into play (WSHS comes to mind)

There are some very upset Cardinal Forest families at Reid's last minute changes that switched that Keene Mill island down near White Oaks, Shannon Station, from getting rezoned to White Oaks elementary and Lake Braddock in Map 4, to Reid rezoning them to Cardinal Forest, putting Cardinal Forest well over capacity, and also rezoning walkable Cardinal Forest neighborhoods from Cardinal Forest to farther away Keene Mill elementary.

Moving Shannon Station to White Oaks in Map 4 eliminated an attendance island and decreased West Springfield High School by around 100 students. It also lowered transportation costs by sending them to a closer school, and sent Shannon Station to equivalent schools with the same programs. The Shannon Station move was low hanging fruit and met every last one of the four rezoning mandates given to the BRAC committee by the school board.

Reid's map keeps everyone at WSHS. Reid keeps the recommendation from Map 4 to move two SPAs from Rolling Valley to Saratoga, but leaves one Rolling Valley SPA from the Parkway area at status quo (Rolling Valley > Key > Lewis), which means that instead of being a roughly 60/40 split feeder between WSHS and Lewis, Rolling Valley is now less than 10% split going to Lewis.

What Reid did to the WSHS maps by keeping Emerald Chase at WSHS and rezoning Rolling Valley the way that she did, puts a huge target on WSHS for mid cycle rezoning in the next year or two.

Sandy Anderson openly stated this at the school board meeting last week. Anderson's term goes through 2028. Rezoning WSHS has been her consistent, stated goal since soon after she was sworn in. If she can find a way to rezone neighborhoods out of WSHS in an off cycle rezoning before her term ends, and move RV into WSHS, then she will definitely try.

If you know the history and follow the process, it is clear that Reid's map, trying to keep everyone happy, is the worst case scenario for WSHS as it means continuous, mid cycle rezoning.

I sincerely hope that the school board adopts Map 4 for WSHS, for at least Shannon Station. Or, if they leave Shannon Station at WSHS, then I hope they rezone SPA 8922 along the Parkway to Saratoga, along with the rest of the Rolling Valley Lewis schools.

In my opinion, that is the best way to protect WSHS from mid cycle rezoning.

One correction to my post.

School board elections are odd years in FairfaxCounty, 2019, 2023, 2027...

The term ends in January 2028, while the election is November 2027, roughly 22 months from now.

This school board has roughly 2 years to continue to make their mark on our kids' education. I think they are counting on voters completely forgetting about this rezoning mess by the next election.

Hard to do that when Sandy Anderson promised that this is just the start and they’re planning to continue looking at a variety of schools starting in January from the superintendent’s list.

Is anyone familiar with her origin story? I’m genuinely curious why she’s so singularly focused on WSHS. How does someone wake up one day and decide that rezoning this one school becomes their life’s mission?

Some people just think they know best. They claim to "care more" than you do. "Savior" mentality.

A white suburban woman knows what is good for poor black, Latino and Asian children than their own parents. These women are the real racists.

Correct.

Those two white women who argued for more boundary changes are just trying to get more kids like theirs in their classrooms. I question their motives. The only one who seemed to be truly crunchy was the elderly woman with short hair who clearly doesn’t have kids in the school district, but even her children probably benefited from the system she is now trying to change.

So some FCPS schools are designated for black, Latino, and Asian students? That is what you can read from your statement.

Lewis is closing in on only 1500 students this year and will almost certainly start next year around 1450 if nothing is done. It is not like the other FCPS schools simply in the NUMBER of students, be they white, black, Latino, Asian, or other.

But they are doing something. They’re looking at stopping transfers out by adding programming. That’s what Reid said.

And it looks like they are going to add Bren Mar Park elementary before the 5 year review. Which also helps relieve capacity issues at Edison so is a good change.

I have no idea why we’re suddenly bringing up a NYT podcast from an entirely different cultural era … definitely not a relevant piece of media in these extremely different times.

It’s not clear it’s a good change. It quickly got tabled for this cycle whereas they went ahead with the other last-minute changes to move kids out of Glasgow/Justice to Poe/Falls Church and Holmes/Annandale. They ended up getting a lot of push back from the Beech Tree families, but they hadn’t tabled those changes like they had with Bren Mar Park.

It isn’t a change that is being proposed to add kids to Lewis - rather, it is to take kids out of Edison. Edison needs to get rid of some students in order to accommodate growth in the region - they’ve already broken ground on a large neighborhood in Kingstowne where the old Top Golf used to be and that area will for sure be zoned for Edison. Never mind when the Franconia government center gets redeveloped in a few years. I know BMP would like to end up back at Annandale but Annandale also can’t accommodate more students at this point.

All of Bren Mar Park went to Annandale before 2011. Bren Mar Park ES used to be two different schools - Edsall Park ES covered the area north of the Beltway and west of 395, and Bren Mar Park ES the area north of the Beltway an east of 395. One area is Springfield and the other Alexandria. They closed Edsall Park decades ago. To get to Edison now, the Edsall Park area has to cross both 395 and the Beltway. The Bren Mar area just has to cross the Beltway.

Annandale has capacity to take back the Edsall Park area, and that area would no longer have to cross either the Beltway or 395. The Bren Mar area is better served by Edison. None of these folks want to go to Lewis, and they should not be moved there just to give West Springfield families comfort that someone else is getting moved instead.

So you propose making a split feeder out of BMP and sending some to Annandale and keeping some at Edison? It’s not a bad idea on paper and does get some kids out of Edison - but not sure if it’s enough kids to accommodate the new neighborhoods. And then you run into the K-5/K-6 school problems as BMP is currently a K-5 school whereas the rest of Edison and all of Lewis have K-6 elementaries.

And again - this is not about adding kids to Lewis to prop it up, it’s about reducing enrollment at Edison. I would agree if Annandale could pick up all of BMP, that is where they should go. But they can’t at this point without worsening the crowding there and then creating a spillover effect into Justice, Falls Church, Woodson etc. From a purely logistical standpoint and affecting the smallest number of schools, BMP to Lewis makes sense right now.

The CIP now has West Springfield at 114% this fall and Edison at 103%. Any future adjustments should be based on updated numbers.

Annandale could probably pick up all of BMP if needed but it’s those from west of 395 who would be most receptive to that move.

Their starting point with Lewis needs to be replacing IB with AP, which would curtail transfers. As for Edison, they can monitor enrollments to see if the projected increase in students materializes. They have Edison at 109% in 2030, but that still well below West Springfield’s current and projected capacity utilization.

Some of the elementary feeders into WSHS are heading down to below 90% capacity. All of the feeders are smaller than the classes they are replacing, some significantly like class of 2030 being 150 fewer students than graduating class of 2026.

Yet FCPS continues to show growth at WSHS in spite of the WSHS feeder schools steadily losing enrollment each year.

Either the CIP math ain't mathing at WSHS, or there is something really fishy happening with transfers into WSHS, and possible widespread residency fraud.

WSHS needs a residency check and transfer into the school frozen.

What West Springfield needs is for the parents who are so insecure about being redistricted some day to stop pitching alternative scenarios that move around other people’s kids at other schools instead. It only serves to call renewed attention to which high school FCPS currently considers and projects to be the most overcrowded in the county: WSHS.

How about you mind your business and just give those WSHS parents credit. I didn't hear them advocating for kicking or moving anyone out. They did their freaking homework, they understood the assignment, and they pushed back hard. Do the residency checks, keep limiting transfers, keep watching the declining numbers. Improving programing before you start playing ping-ponging kids around.

Some of them are pushing for Bren Mar Park to get moved to Lewis. Try to keep up.

I have been to literally every single meeting and have never heard them advocate for moving Bren Mar Park, or frankly to move anyone out of the WSHS boundary. I've heard them advocate not to let any new neighbors in, which seems fair and logical. No offense, but I doubt most don't even know where Bren Mark Park is. Keep up.

They are doing it on this thread today. Sorry, honey, you’re not fooling anyone.

Humm..an anonymous forum where anyone from anyway can pretend to be whoever they want, vs. What WSHS parents have said in public forums and meetings over the last 18 months? Where you born dense or did it come with age?

This is their outlet for some to say the things they won’t say out loud in public. You really are a total idiot if you don’t understand how this forum operates.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think school board will amend with new changes from Reid’s proposal or just remove some of her changes? I hope nothing new - maybe just add to list of things to look at in future?

They might put some of the Map 4 changes back into play (WSHS comes to mind)

There are some very upset Cardinal Forest families at Reid's last minute changes that switched that Keene Mill island down near White Oaks, Shannon Station, from getting rezoned to White Oaks elementary and Lake Braddock in Map 4, to Reid rezoning them to Cardinal Forest, putting Cardinal Forest well over capacity, and also rezoning walkable Cardinal Forest neighborhoods from Cardinal Forest to farther away Keene Mill elementary.

Moving Shannon Station to White Oaks in Map 4 eliminated an attendance island and decreased West Springfield High School by around 100 students. It also lowered transportation costs by sending them to a closer school, and sent Shannon Station to equivalent schools with the same programs. The Shannon Station move was low hanging fruit and met every last one of the four rezoning mandates given to the BRAC committee by the school board.

Reid's map keeps everyone at WSHS. Reid keeps the recommendation from Map 4 to move two SPAs from Rolling Valley to Saratoga, but leaves one Rolling Valley SPA from the Parkway area at status quo (Rolling Valley > Key > Lewis), which means that instead of being a roughly 60/40 split feeder between WSHS and Lewis, Rolling Valley is now less than 10% split going to Lewis.

What Reid did to the WSHS maps by keeping Emerald Chase at WSHS and rezoning Rolling Valley the way that she did, puts a huge target on WSHS for mid cycle rezoning in the next year or two.

Sandy Anderson openly stated this at the school board meeting last week. Anderson's term goes through 2028. Rezoning WSHS has been her consistent, stated goal since soon after she was sworn in. If she can find a way to rezone neighborhoods out of WSHS in an off cycle rezoning before her term ends, and move RV into WSHS, then she will definitely try.

If you know the history and follow the process, it is clear that Reid's map, trying to keep everyone happy, is the worst case scenario for WSHS as it means continuous, mid cycle rezoning.

I sincerely hope that the school board adopts Map 4 for WSHS, for at least Shannon Station. Or, if they leave Shannon Station at WSHS, then I hope they rezone SPA 8922 along the Parkway to Saratoga, along with the rest of the Rolling Valley Lewis schools.

In my opinion, that is the best way to protect WSHS from mid cycle rezoning.

One correction to my post.

School board elections are odd years in FairfaxCounty, 2019, 2023, 2027...

The term ends in January 2028, while the election is November 2027, roughly 22 months from now.

This school board has roughly 2 years to continue to make their mark on our kids' education. I think they are counting on voters completely forgetting about this rezoning mess by the next election.

Hard to do that when Sandy Anderson promised that this is just the start and they’re planning to continue looking at a variety of schools starting in January from the superintendent’s list.

Is anyone familiar with her origin story? I’m genuinely curious why she’s so singularly focused on WSHS. How does someone wake up one day and decide that rezoning this one school becomes their life’s mission?

Some people just think they know best. They claim to "care more" than you do. "Savior" mentality.

A white suburban woman knows what is good for poor black, Latino and Asian children than their own parents. These women are the real racists.

Correct.

Those two white women who argued for more boundary changes are just trying to get more kids like theirs in their classrooms. I question their motives. The only one who seemed to be truly crunchy was the elderly woman with short hair who clearly doesn’t have kids in the school district, but even her children probably benefited from the system she is now trying to change.

So some FCPS schools are designated for black, Latino, and Asian students? That is what you can read from your statement.

Lewis is closing in on only 1500 students this year and will almost certainly start next year around 1450 if nothing is done. It is not like the other FCPS schools simply in the NUMBER of students, be they white, black, Latino, Asian, or other.

But they are doing something. They’re looking at stopping transfers out by adding programming. That’s what Reid said.

And it looks like they are going to add Bren Mar Park elementary before the 5 year review. Which also helps relieve capacity issues at Edison so is a good change.

I have no idea why we’re suddenly bringing up a NYT podcast from an entirely different cultural era … definitely not a relevant piece of media in these extremely different times.

It’s not clear it’s a good change. It quickly got tabled for this cycle whereas they went ahead with the other last-minute changes to move kids out of Glasgow/Justice to Poe/Falls Church and Holmes/Annandale. They ended up getting a lot of push back from the Beech Tree families, but they hadn’t tabled those changes like they had with Bren Mar Park.

It isn’t a change that is being proposed to add kids to Lewis - rather, it is to take kids out of Edison. Edison needs to get rid of some students in order to accommodate growth in the region - they’ve already broken ground on a large neighborhood in Kingstowne where the old Top Golf used to be and that area will for sure be zoned for Edison. Never mind when the Franconia government center gets redeveloped in a few years. I know BMP would like to end up back at Annandale but Annandale also can’t accommodate more students at this point.

All of Bren Mar Park went to Annandale before 2011. Bren Mar Park ES used to be two different schools - Edsall Park ES covered the area north of the Beltway and west of 395, and Bren Mar Park ES the area north of the Beltway an east of 395. One area is Springfield and the other Alexandria. They closed Edsall Park decades ago. To get to Edison now, the Edsall Park area has to cross both 395 and the Beltway. The Bren Mar area just has to cross the Beltway.

Annandale has capacity to take back the Edsall Park area, and that area would no longer have to cross either the Beltway or 395. The Bren Mar area is better served by Edison. None of these folks want to go to Lewis, and they should not be moved there just to give West Springfield families comfort that someone else is getting moved instead.

So you propose making a split feeder out of BMP and sending some to Annandale and keeping some at Edison? It’s not a bad idea on paper and does get some kids out of Edison - but not sure if it’s enough kids to accommodate the new neighborhoods. And then you run into the K-5/K-6 school problems as BMP is currently a K-5 school whereas the rest of Edison and all of Lewis have K-6 elementaries.

And again - this is not about adding kids to Lewis to prop it up, it’s about reducing enrollment at Edison. I would agree if Annandale could pick up all of BMP, that is where they should go. But they can’t at this point without worsening the crowding there and then creating a spillover effect into Justice, Falls Church, Woodson etc. From a purely logistical standpoint and affecting the smallest number of schools, BMP to Lewis makes sense right now.

The CIP now has West Springfield at 114% this fall and Edison at 103%. Any future adjustments should be based on updated numbers.

Annandale could probably pick up all of BMP if needed but it’s those from west of 395 who would be most receptive to that move.

Their starting point with Lewis needs to be replacing IB with AP, which would curtail transfers. As for Edison, they can monitor enrollments to see if the projected increase in students materializes. They have Edison at 109% in 2030, but that still well below West Springfield’s current and projected capacity utilization.

Some of the elementary feeders into WSHS are heading down to below 90% capacity. All of the feeders are smaller than the classes they are replacing, some significantly like class of 2030 being 150 fewer students than graduating class of 2026.

Yet FCPS continues to show growth at WSHS in spite of the WSHS feeder schools steadily losing enrollment each year.

Either the CIP math ain't mathing at WSHS, or there is something really fishy happening with transfers into WSHS, and possible widespread residency fraud.

WSHS needs a residency check and transfer into the school frozen.

What West Springfield needs is for the parents who are so insecure about being redistricted some day to stop pitching alternative scenarios that move around other people’s kids at other schools instead. It only serves to call renewed attention to which high school FCPS currently considers and projects to be the most overcrowded in the county: WSHS.

How about you mind your business and just give those WSHS parents credit. I didn't hear them advocating for kicking or moving anyone out. They did their freaking homework, they understood the assignment, and they pushed back hard. Do the residency checks, keep limiting transfers, keep watching the declining numbers. Improving programing before you start playing ping-ponging kids around.

Residency checks are routinely done. This is a red herring.

I have not once been asked to resubmit residency information after 10 years in the FCPS system. It is very easy to use a previous address to stay at a school. Or to use someone else's address to enroll ... someone on this site asked about doing that just the other week!

Cool anecdotal evidence.

I'm not OP, but this is a fact. Residency checks outside of first registration do not happen. Reid herself said they have literally only one person's job to check for ALL of Fairfax country.

False.

Cite your source, please

Cite yours?

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I spoke at the January 10th meeting and now I keep getting emails from board members and their reps asking for a copy of my remarks. Is this standard or do they really care to help?