Wuhan virus (coronavirus) arrives in the USA

[Anonymous]

I have also come to the conclusion that it will spread widely here as well. I don’t see our government able to contain it with so many coming in on various flights and through our evacuees. A military quarantine center is opening 15 miles from me for Americans who were evacuated. Other than being prepared, there isn’t much to do. I do wish there were more first-hand stories from people who have recovered so we know what to expect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It seems like this was somewhat under control until: 1) the outbreak in South Korea that has been traced to some kind of secretive church sect; 2) Iran having the virus and deaths for a while and not doing or saying anything, starting it in the Middle East; and 3) the race to quarantine the virus on cruise ships, with bad results.

I think Iran is going to give the virus its second wind and handle it worse than China.

It seemed like it was under control only because it isn’t noticed until a bunch of pneumonia cases pop up in an area. In reality, it was being spread around for 2 weeks prior to those hospitalizations. It’s mostly mild, then bam. That’s when hospitals start testing people.

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Anonymous wrote:I would like go know more about the health workers who have been infected outside China. So, for instance, the Iranian health minister. One would assume he is washing his hands, not sharing drinks, not greeting people outside his family with a kiss.

It’s a very easy virus to catch and no one has immunity to it. So everyone will get it unless they take Ebola level precautions.

That’s why whole provinces in China have basically shut down. Everyone staying at home as much as possible. No travel that’s not absolutely necessary.

For over a month.

It takes a while for us to adjust to this reality but the pictures and videos you have been seeing out of China weren’t fear mongering. And the Chinese aren’t that different from us here in the US. We keep trying to say, well those are Chinese people. It only affects elderly Chinese man who smoke. And so on. They have that pollution there. They have that healthcare there.

The body bag videos were definitely fearmongering or misinformation, at best.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would like go know more about the health workers who have been infected outside China. So, for instance, the Iranian health minister. One would assume he is washing his hands, not sharing drinks, not greeting people outside his family with a kiss.

It’s a very easy virus to catch and no one has immunity to it. So everyone will get it unless they take Ebola level precautions.

That’s why whole provinces in China have basically shut down. Everyone staying at home as much as possible. No travel that’s not absolutely necessary.

For over a month.

It takes a while for us to adjust to this reality but the pictures and videos you have been seeing out of China weren’t fear mongering. And the Chinese aren’t that different from us here in the US. We keep trying to say, well those are Chinese people. It only affects elderly Chinese man who smoke. And so on. They have that pollution there. They have that healthcare there.

The body bag videos were definitely fearmongering or misinformation, at best.

How were body bags misinformation?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm glad to see others say the US response has been...underwhelming. I don't feel confident at all we have a good plan. We aren't testing people, we have some limited quarantines for a very small population. What ARE we doing? Who ARE we monitoring? Maybe the CDC really does see the writing on the wall and figures we will just need to deal with the fallout of this spreading. You can't contain a virus that is asymptomatic for weeks while contagious unless you have a reliable, fast, and cheap test. I wish I knew what the top minds were thinking.

What top minds? Our current administration has slashed budgets and fired epidemic response teams.

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Anonymous wrote:I would like go know more about the health workers who have been infected outside China. So, for instance, the Iranian health minister. One would assume he is washing his hands, not sharing drinks, not greeting people outside his family with a kiss.

It’s a very easy virus to catch and no one has immunity to it. So everyone will get it unless they take Ebola level precautions.

That’s why whole provinces in China have basically shut down. Everyone staying at home as much as possible. No travel that’s not absolutely necessary.

For over a month.

It takes a while for us to adjust to this reality but the pictures and videos you have been seeing out of China weren’t fear mongering. And the Chinese aren’t that different from us here in the US. We keep trying to say, well those are Chinese people. It only affects elderly Chinese man who smoke. And so on. They have that pollution there. They have that healthcare there.

The body bag videos were definitely fearmongering or misinformation, at best.

How were body bags misinformation?

Videos weren't from reputable sources or verifiable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The cat's out of the bag and it isn't going back in. Unless you are going to wear a mask for the rest of your life, there is probably no point. This virus is here to stay and it sounds like it will keep killing. Over time, we will likely develop some kinds of immunity to it. Maybe it will weaken and become like any other cold. Honestly, the human race gets what it deserves. We've known this is a risk for a long time. Didn't stop folks from eating wild animals, however, and it won't stop them now. Most of us will be fine and recover. Some will not.

For now, I've stocked up on a few non-perishables and stopped taking the Metro. It would be good if we could at least get a handle on what treatments are most effective before most of us get sick. I figure if I can delay getting it for a few months, that will be best.

Now, those of us who are considered “at risk population” need to figure out what to do. We may cancel elderly MIL’s non-essential medical appointments.

PP who wrote "cat's out of the bag" here

Completely agree. The reason I'm now driving to work is that my 85 year old father is asthmatic and I see him all the time. I think me and my kid will probably be OK (45, healthy) and my kid is 14 (touch of asthma), but Dad is clearly in the at-risk population. Scary, but I think he's not especially worried. Not like he has a death wish or anything, but pneumonia is probably what is going to kill him anyway. I just don't want to be the vector that hastens that.

My 84 year old mom has her own apartment in a retirement community. I'm going to make sure that her freezer is well stocked with microwave meals just in case she needs to stay inside for awhile. She also has the option of room service if she needs it. There may come a point that when we visit her we'll wear masks just to be on the safe side.

I don't see my healthy older teenagers curtailing their activities over this. Dh and I are mid 50's but in reasonably good health with good immune systems. I think life will go on as normal for us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The cat's out of the bag and it isn't going back in. Unless you are going to wear a mask for the rest of your life, there is probably no point. This virus is here to stay and it sounds like it will keep killing. Over time, we will likely develop some kinds of immunity to it. Maybe it will weaken and become like any other cold. Honestly, the human race gets what it deserves. We've known this is a risk for a long time. Didn't stop folks from eating wild animals, however, and it won't stop them now. Most of us will be fine and recover. Some will not.

For now, I've stocked up on a few non-perishables and stopped taking the Metro. It would be good if we could at least get a handle on what treatments are most effective before most of us get sick. I figure if I can delay getting it for a few months, that will be best.

Now, those of us who are considered “at risk population” need to figure out what to do. We may cancel elderly MIL’s non-essential medical appointments.

PP who wrote "cat's out of the bag" here

Completely agree. The reason I'm now driving to work is that my 85 year old father is asthmatic and I see him all the time. I think me and my kid will probably be OK (45, healthy) and my kid is 14 (touch of asthma), but Dad is clearly in the at-risk population. Scary, but I think he's not especially worried. Not like he has a death wish or anything, but pneumonia is probably what is going to kill him anyway. I just don't want to be the vector that hastens that.

My 84 year old mom has her own apartment in a retirement community. I'm going to make sure that her freezer is well stocked with microwave meals just in case she needs to stay inside for awhile. She also has the option of room service if she needs it. There may come a point that when we visit her we'll wear masks just to be on the safe side.

I don't see my healthy older teenagers curtailing their activities over this. Dh and I are mid 50's but in reasonably good health with good immune systems. I think life will go on as normal for us.

Yeah, I am really just concerned about my MIL. I assume there's a good chance the rest of us will catch it and will be fine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would like go know more about the health workers who have been infected outside China. So, for instance, the Iranian health minister. One would assume he is washing his hands, not sharing drinks, not greeting people outside his family with a kiss.

It’s a very easy virus to catch and no one has immunity to it. So everyone will get it unless they take Ebola level precautions.

That’s why whole provinces in China have basically shut down. Everyone staying at home as much as possible. No travel that’s not absolutely necessary.

For over a month.

It takes a while for us to adjust to this reality but the pictures and videos you have been seeing out of China weren’t fear mongering. And the Chinese aren’t that different from us here in the US. We keep trying to say, well those are Chinese people. It only affects elderly Chinese man who smoke. And so on. They have that pollution there. They have that healthcare there.

The body bag videos were definitely fearmongering or misinformation, at best.

How were body bags misinformation?

Videos weren't from reputable sources or verifiable.

Neither were the ‘official’ numbers.

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[Anonymous]

This is the best piece I have read recently. Time to switch tactics from quarantines.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/02/covid-vaccine/607000/?fbclid=IwAR1fJh1YLoWaLVIuyKG8_xhKBz9JfTszf9rjAVG9aGY1rmQklUt_9mNNm2o

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Well, except the CDC has shat the bed on this. They f-ed up the testing which is why we are WAY underreported in the US. Not sure I trust them at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is WHO resisting on calling COVID-19 a pandemic?

What’s the criteria?

The WHO announced yesterday or Sunday that it no longer uses the term pandemic.

But it does have “pandemic bonds” outstanding, which would stop paying out to investors if a pandemic is declared, so that the money could be used to fight the pandemic. Hmm....

Absolute nonsense. The bonds were issued by the World Bank and have clearly defined triggers, none of which involve the WHO calling it a pandemic. You could argue that the triggers are too slow, but that is a different question.

[Anonymous]

Yes, how can we be so critical of other countries responses (including China, which literally locked down entire cities), when our own countries doesn’t even have the capability, organization or experienced leadership?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, how can we be so critical of other countries responses (including China, which literally locked down entire cities), when our own countries doesn’t even have the capability, organization or experienced leadership?

Can't disagree with you. Our CDC's response is shockingly bad.