Fire in upper NW?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:he did it alone. There would be other arrest by now. I really didn't want it to be so. How vulnerable we all are if one person can inflict so much horror.

So that was Wint seen in the Porsche on NY ave and running from the burning car? Not sure if his hair and build fit the descriptions of what's been reported.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At the time of his arrest DW was accompanied by two women in the car and two men in the box truck one of whom was identified as his brother. Later it was stated that one of the men in the box truck was his younger brother, Darrell. He has another 30 y.o. brother with a history of violent behavior, http://www6.montgomerycountymd.gov/Apps/Police/News/NA_details.asp?NaID=834
When police searched the box truck two knives were among the items recovered. It has also been stated that in addition to his own firing from AIW, he had a relative who also had been fired from AIW. To put this together, two angry and violent brothers both with an ax to grind for what they perceived they were owed for unjust firings decide to seek revenge on SS and his family. They were prepared to leave no witnesses and armed themselves with knives to carry out the crime. How does JW fit in? SS's phone was trying to reach him at 11:46 but he did not receive the call because he was shopping at Lowes. Why was Savvas calling an hour after the money drop? Perhaps JW skimmed a few hundred from the cash delivery and someone noticed.

SS called JW at 11:46am, but JW did not answer?? I didn't know this. Wow, I wonder what JW was calling about.

I read that JW called SS at that time, not the other way around. Let me see if I can find the article.

[Anonymous]

I agree, think he did it alone. They haven't charged anyone else. It really did not take a rocket scientist, he just did it and it worked for.him, until science identified him. Now on to death penalty phase. If anyone helped him he would have given them up by now, he has nothing.left to lose but his pathetic life.

[Anonymous]

Savopoulos called Wallace at 11:54 a.m on Thursday, May 14, but the call was not answered, records show. It was the last incoming or outgoing call Savopoulos made or answered before the fire and his murder, which police say occurred sometime between noon and 1:24 P.M Thursday, when Washington emergency personnel were dispatched after reports of a house fire.

http://www.nate-thayer.com/owner-docs-of-savopoulos-700000-race-car-seized-from-jordan-wallace-in-d-c-murder-probe/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree, think he did it alone. They haven't charged anyone else. It really did not take a rocket scientist, he just did it and it worked for.him, until science identified him. Now on to death penalty phase. If anyone helped him he would have given them up by now, he has nothing.left to lose but his pathetic life.

He may not be so willing to give up the accomplice if it is his brother.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Savopoulos called Wallace at 11:54 a.m on Thursday, May 14, but the call was not answered, records show. It was the last incoming or outgoing call Savopoulos made or answered before the fire and his murder, which police say occurred sometime between noon and 1:24 P.M Thursday, when Washington emergency personnel were dispatched after reports of a house fire.

http://www.nate-thayer.com/owner-docs-of-savopoulos-700000-race-car-seized-from-jordan-wallace-in-d-c-murder-probe/

Thanks for the link. If true, I agree that is highly suspicious behavior on the assistant's part. If innocent, wouldn't he have immediately responded to his boss' text? Even if driving, wouldn't he have pulled over to respond to his boss' text ?? After dropping off $40,000??!!

But, Please help me understand this:

We can presume that all the texts/calls from Mr. Savapoulos' phone at that point were either made under duress or by Wint himself. If JW was an accomplice, he would have known the calls weren't coming from Mr. Savapoulos himself, but from Wint. Wouldn't he have picked up the call so he could talk with his co-conspirator?

I am very torn about this!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Savopoulos called Wallace at 11:54 a.m on Thursday, May 14, but the call was not answered, records show. It was the last incoming or outgoing call Savopoulos made or answered before the fire and his murder, which police say occurred sometime between noon and 1:24 P.M Thursday, when Washington emergency personnel were dispatched after reports of a house fire.

http://www.nate-thayer.com/owner-docs-of-savopoulos-700000-race-car-seized-from-jordan-wallace-in-d-c-murder-probe/

Thanks for the link. If true, I agree that is highly suspicious behavior on the assistant's part. If innocent, wouldn't he have immediately responded to his boss' text? Even if driving, wouldn't he have pulled over to respond to his boss' text ?? After dropping off $40,000??!!

But, Please help me understand this:

We can presume that all the texts/calls from Mr. Savapoulos' phone at that point were either made under duress or by Wint himself. If JW was an accomplice, he would have known the calls weren't coming from Mr. Savapoulos himself, but from Wint. Wouldn't he have picked up the call so he could talk with his co-conspirator?

I am very torn about this!

I think you can safely assume that he didn't hear the phone ringing. I know that when I am at Home Depot or Lowes, it is near impossible to receive or make calls because of the steel building construction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Savopoulos called Wallace at 11:54 a.m on Thursday, May 14, but the call was not answered, records show. It was the last incoming or outgoing call Savopoulos made or answered before the fire and his murder, which police say occurred sometime between noon and 1:24 P.M Thursday, when Washington emergency personnel were dispatched after reports of a house fire.

http://www.nate-thayer.com/owner-docs-of-savopoulos-700000-race-car-seized-from-jordan-wallace-in-d-c-murder-probe/

Thanks for the link. If true, I agree that is highly suspicious behavior on the assistant's part. If innocent, wouldn't he have immediately responded to his boss' text? Even if driving, wouldn't he have pulled over to respond to his boss' text ?? After dropping off $40,000??!!

But, Please help me understand this:

We can presume that all the texts/calls from Mr. Savapoulos' phone at that point were either made under duress or by Wint himself. If JW was an accomplice, he would have known the calls weren't coming from Mr. Savapoulos himself, but from Wint. Wouldn't he have picked up the call so he could talk with his co-conspirator?

I am very torn about this!

Probably just a signal call from DW to JW using SS's phone (jobs done you can leave lowes now you have you alibi)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Savopoulos called Wallace at 11:54 a.m on Thursday, May 14, but the call was not answered, records show. It was the last incoming or outgoing call Savopoulos made or answered before the fire and his murder, which police say occurred sometime between noon and 1:24 P.M Thursday, when Washington emergency personnel were dispatched after reports of a house fire.

http://www.nate-thayer.com/owner-docs-of-savopoulos-700000-race-car-seized-from-jordan-wallace-in-d-c-murder-probe/

Thanks for the link. If true, I agree that is highly suspicious behavior on the assistant's part. If innocent, wouldn't he have immediately responded to his boss' text? Even if driving, wouldn't he have pulled over to respond to his boss' text ?? After dropping off $40,000??!!

But, Please help me understand this:

We can presume that all the texts/calls from Mr. Savapoulos' phone at that point were either made under duress or by Wint himself. If JW was an accomplice, he would have known the calls weren't coming from Mr. Savapoulos himself, but from Wint. Wouldn't he have picked up the call so he could talk with his co-conspirator?

I am very torn about this!

Probably just a signal call from DW to JW using SS's phone (jobs done you can leave lowes now you have you alibi)

Excellent point.

[Anonymous]

Were all the previous communications between Mr. Savapoulos and JW texts and not voice messages?

Because if so, what was posted above makes a frightening amount of sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree, think he did it alone. They haven't charged anyone else. It really did not take a rocket scientist, he just did it and it worked for.him, until science identified him. Now on to death penalty phase. If anyone helped him he would have given them up by now, he has nothing.left to lose but his pathetic life.

Well, according to his former "attorney," he's a gentle man who could be trusted with your grandmother...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Savopoulos called Wallace at 11:54 a.m on Thursday, May 14, but the call was not answered, records show. It was the last incoming or outgoing call Savopoulos made or answered before the fire and his murder, which police say occurred sometime between noon and 1:24 P.M Thursday, when Washington emergency personnel were dispatched after reports of a house fire.

http://www.nate-thayer.com/owner-docs-of-savopoulos-700000-race-car-seized-from-jordan-wallace-in-d-c-murder-probe/

Thanks for the link. If true, I agree that is highly suspicious behavior on the assistant's part. If innocent, wouldn't he have immediately responded to his boss' text? Even if driving, wouldn't he have pulled over to respond to his boss' text ?? After dropping off $40,000??!!

But, Please help me understand this:

We can presume that all the texts/calls from Mr. Savapoulos' phone at that point were either made under duress or by Wint himself. If JW was an accomplice, he would have known the calls weren't coming from Mr. Savapoulos himself, but from Wint. Wouldn't he have picked up the call so he could talk with his co-conspirator?

I am very torn about this!

I think you can safely assume that he didn't hear the phone ringing. I know that when I am at Home Depot or Lowes, it is near impossible to receive or make calls because of the steel building construction.

In that scenario, wouldn't JW have checked his phone the moment he left Home Depot/Lowe's to see if his boss had tried to contact him?
Rather than waiting until he heard about the fire to contact them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Savopoulos called Wallace at 11:54 a.m on Thursday, May 14, but the call was not answered, records show. It was the last incoming or outgoing call Savopoulos made or answered before the fire and his murder, which police say occurred sometime between noon and 1:24 P.M Thursday, when Washington emergency personnel were dispatched after reports of a house fire.

http://www.nate-thayer.com/owner-docs-of-savopoulos-700000-race-car-seized-from-jordan-wallace-in-d-c-murder-probe/

Thanks for the link. If true, I agree that is highly suspicious behavior on the assistant's part. If innocent, wouldn't he have immediately responded to his boss' text? Even if driving, wouldn't he have pulled over to respond to his boss' text ?? After dropping off $40,000??!!

But, Please help me understand this:

We can presume that all the texts/calls from Mr. Savapoulos' phone at that point were either made under duress or by Wint himself. If JW was an accomplice, he would have known the calls weren't coming from Mr. Savapoulos himself, but from Wint. Wouldn't he have picked up the call so he could talk with his co-conspirator?

I am very torn about this!

I think you can safely assume that he didn't hear the phone ringing. I know that when I am at Home Depot or Lowes, it is near impossible to receive or make calls because of the steel building construction.

In that scenario, wouldn't JW have checked his phone the moment he left Home Depot/Lowe's to see if his boss had tried to contact him?
Rather than waiting until he heard about the fire to contact them?

If it were just a missed call, with no voicemail or text, wouldn't you assume it wasn't important and didn't require follow up?

[Anonymous]

Also, if we was doing any sort of construction at the Dojo, then he may not have even heard the ring tone.

[Anonymous]

^^That's a good point. Which is what is making this hard for me: it seems that for every questionable behavior on the assistant's part, there is also an innocent explanation that is possible.

Probably why I'm having a hard time feeling strongly one way or the other about him being involved.