Fire in upper NW?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You might be interested in this post on Websleuths. The writer makes the point this crime was personal, doubtfully motivated by greed.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?281668-DC-Savvas-Savopoulos-family-amp-Veralicia-Figueroa-murdered-Daron-Wint-Arrested-9/page47

Very interesting about the different companies in NY and MD with similar names. He definitely has a point. It really makes sense.

I completely agree... I saw the same report about paying back the Guyanese workers when I was researching... here is the person who posted on the Websleuths (I am not posting his/her entire post, just the part about Wint possibly feeling left out of a payout)

Please bear with me here.
We know DDW has connections to NYC and we are told his girlfriend lives in Brooklyn. It is also likely he has connection to the Guyanese community in NYC as well.

On Monday, May 18, 2015 the New York Daily News reported:
...Nearly three dozen construction workers — mostly Guyanese immigrants — got back pay Monday totaling close to $1 million after a city probe found they’d been ripped off by their employer.

The checks for the North American Iron Works employees — who worked on city schools and the Queens Museum from 2010 to 2012 — ranged from $382 to $73,801, according to city Controller Scott Stringer’s office....

Link:
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.2227392

The announcement/press conference occurred on Monday, May 18th. In the photograph in the Observer article, NYC Controller, Scott Stringer is at the podium and he is surrounded by North American Iron Works employees. It is probable the knowledge of funds being recouped for the workers was disseminated among the community in the weeks or week before the May 18th announcement. DWW may have even known some of those receiving compensation.

It is possible that DDW felt slighted, cheated, possibly jealous and became angry and volatile. With the timing of this payout, it is plausible DDW approach the SS family on May 13, 2015 to settle whatever he perceived was denied him or done to him. This wasn't a straight up, robbery, burglary related to greed. This crime was personal and unique to DWW. He was enraged, he escalated and exacted his violent revenge on this poor family.
DDW DNA, blood evidence and likely additional evidence will assure either life in prison or if possible through case circumstances/locales, the death penalty.
If the death penalty applies, it may still be life in prison because it's possible there are significant mitigating factors in his background and/or he is mentally ill.

Although DDW will never leave prison, it is still hard to accept this dangerous man was free in the community to commit this horrible crime at all.

Peace to those who loved the victims of this crime.

Maybe it was the totality of perceived injustices that propelled Wint to act. The past history of AIW relative firing and him no longer working there (reason unknown), the possibility of the knowledge of the lawsuit of the NY Guyanese iron workers and maybe the Baltimore headlines of unrest and then his own challenges with being civil that snowballed horribly. This could be part of the motive. I guess I realize that no matter what is given as the explanation it is -- never ever enough to warrant such behavior or even remotely make sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Savopoulos called Wallace at 11:54 a.m on Thursday, May 14, but the call was not answered, records show. It was the last incoming or outgoing call Savopoulos made or answered before the fire and his murder, which police say occurred sometime between noon and 1:24 P.M Thursday, when Washington emergency personnel were dispatched after reports of a house fire.

http://www.nate-thayer.com/owner-docs-of-savopoulos-700000-race-car-seized-from-jordan-wallace-in-d-c-murder-probe/

Thanks for the link. If true, I agree that is highly suspicious behavior on the assistant's part. If innocent, wouldn't he have immediately responded to his boss' text? Even if driving, wouldn't he have pulled over to respond to his boss' text ?? After dropping off $40,000??!!

But, Please help me understand this:

We can presume that all the texts/calls from Mr. Savapoulos' phone at that point were either made under duress or by Wint himself. If JW was an accomplice, he would have known the calls weren't coming from Mr. Savapoulos himself, but from Wint. Wouldn't he have picked up the call so he could talk with his co-conspirator?

I am very torn about this!

I think you can safely assume that he didn't hear the phone ringing. I know that when I am at Home Depot or Lowes, it is near impossible to receive or make calls because of the steel building construction.

In that scenario, wouldn't JW have checked his phone the moment he left Home Depot/Lowe's to see if his boss had tried to contact him?
Rather than waiting until he heard about the fire to contact them?

If it were just a missed call, with no voicemail or text, wouldn't you assume it wasn't important and didn't require follow up?

Perhaps. But again, why would that contact have been a regular call versus text message? Since the call was either made under duress by Mr. Savapoulos, or by Wint, why a voice call at that time? At that point, Wint or accomplice would have been able to check the garage and seen the money was there. Why else would they need to call JW?
Unless maybe the phone was dropped and automatically redialed the previous number?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Savopoulos called Wallace at 11:54 a.m on Thursday, May 14, but the call was not answered, records show. It was the last incoming or outgoing call Savopoulos made or answered before the fire and his murder, which police say occurred sometime between noon and 1:24 P.M Thursday, when Washington emergency personnel were dispatched after reports of a house fire.

http://www.nate-thayer.com/owner-docs-of-savopoulos-700000-race-car-seized-from-jordan-wallace-in-d-c-murder-probe/

Thanks for the link. If true, I agree that is highly suspicious behavior on the assistant's part. If innocent, wouldn't he have immediately responded to his boss' text? Even if driving, wouldn't he have pulled over to respond to his boss' text ?? After dropping off $40,000??!!

But, Please help me understand this:

We can presume that all the texts/calls from Mr. Savapoulos' phone at that point were either made under duress or by Wint himself. If JW was an accomplice, he would have known the calls weren't coming from Mr. Savapoulos himself, but from Wint. Wouldn't he have picked up the call so he could talk with his co-conspirator?

I am very torn about this!

If you are like me, you also keep forgetting about "burner phones" which could be used in tandem with the other registered phones for devious purposes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:[b]Savopoulos called Wallace at 11:54 a.m on Thursday, May 14, but the call was not answered, records show.[b] It was the last incoming or outgoing call Savopoulos made or answered before the fire and his murder, which police say occurred sometime between noon and 1:24 P.M Thursday, when Washington emergency personnel were dispatched after reports of a house fire.

http://www.nate-thayer.com/owner-docs-of-savopoulos-700000-race-car-seized-from-jordan-wallace-in-d-c-murder-probe/

So here's my question, do we know that SS made the call (did he leave a voice message) or was there a called made from SS's phone to Wallace's and no VM left?

[Anonymous]

*** Pardon me if you all have discussed these ideas, I've read a lot of your postings but not every single post on all 372 pages. ***

IMO Jordan has done something fishy, but I'm just not sure it's at the level of being a direct accomplice to torture and murder. He strikes me as more savvaay than that -- kill off his new potential for who knows what SS's money and connections would bring him?

I don't think looking into Jordan's cell phone/text records necesissarly means he's a suspect. His exchanges between AIG and SS at a minimum help LE with their timeline. That doesn't explain the car search unless he was also being threatened/manipulated and LE felt Wint had been in Jordan's car. Would help explain his lies, thinking he had to give whatever answer was most likely to satisfy LE to save his own skin.

*** Any chance Jordan was being threatened by Wint? Possibly forced to give up everything he knew about the patterns of SS household So Wint could craft his plan, being told he'd be tracked down and killed or his girl friend killed if he didn't just act like life was normal? Wint tells Jordan he's just going to extort money not that he plans so go as far as he did.

*** In other forums, some folks are suggesting that Wint acted alone at the house or their would have been other arrests by now. Any thoughts on that?

*** Anyone know the final out come on the brother of the man who was part of the lawnservice crew? The brother hadn't been able to find or contact the lawnservice man all day on May 14 so he sat in front of the Sav house hoping to learn something. (Can't remember wher I saw that -- sorry for no link.) guess it's far fetched that someone in lawnservice involved since we don't know if there have been any CD related the them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You might be interested in this post on Websleuths. The writer makes the point this crime was personal, doubtfully motivated by greed.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?281668-DC-Savvas-Savopoulos-family-amp-Veralicia-Figueroa-murdered-Daron-Wint-Arrested-9/page47

Very interesting about the different companies in NY and MD with similar names. He definitely has a point. It really makes sense.

I completely agree... I saw the same report about paying back the Guyanese workers when I was researching... here is the person who posted on the Websleuths (I am not posting his/her entire post, just the part about Wint possibly feeling left out of a payout)

Please bear with me here.
We know DDW has connections to NYC and we are told his girlfriend lives in Brooklyn. It is also likely he has connection to the Guyanese community in NYC as well.

On Monday, May 18, 2015 the New York Daily News reported:
...Nearly three dozen construction workers — mostly Guyanese immigrants — got back pay Monday totaling close to $1 million after a city probe found they’d been ripped off by their employer.

The checks for the North American Iron Works employees — who worked on city schools and the Queens Museum from 2010 to 2012 — ranged from $382 to $73,801, according to city Controller Scott Stringer’s office....

Link:
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.2227392

The announcement/press conference occurred on Monday, May 18th. In the photograph in the Observer article, NYC Controller, Scott Stringer is at the podium and he is surrounded by North American Iron Works employees. It is probable the knowledge of funds being recouped for the workers was disseminated among the community in the weeks or week before the May 18th announcement. DWW may have even known some of those receiving compensation.

It is possible that DDW felt slighted, cheated, possibly jealous and became angry and volatile. With the timing of this payout, it is plausible DDW approach the SS family on May 13, 2015 to settle whatever he perceived was denied him or done to him. This wasn't a straight up, robbery, burglary related to greed. This crime was personal and unique to DWW. He was enraged, he escalated and exacted his violent revenge on this poor family.
DDW DNA, blood evidence and likely additional evidence will assure either life in prison or if possible through case circumstances/locales, the death penalty.
If the death penalty applies, it may still be life in prison because it's possible there are significant mitigating factors in his background and/or he is mentally ill.

Although DDW will never leave prison, it is still hard to accept this dangerous man was free in the community to commit this horrible crime at all.

Peace to those who loved the victims of this crime.

Maybe it was the totality of perceived injustices that propelled Wint to act. The past history of AIW relative firing and him no longer working there (reason unknown), the possibility of the knowledge of the lawsuit of the NY Guyanese iron workers and maybe the Baltimore headlines of unrest and then his own challenges with being civil that snowballed horribly. This could be part of the motive. I guess I realize that no matter what is given as the explanation it is -- never ever enough to warrant such behavior or even remotely make sense.

This is not the same company. Savaas ran American Iron Works. This article is about North American Iron Works in New York City.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You might be interested in this post on Websleuths. The writer makes the point this crime was personal, doubtfully motivated by greed.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?281668-DC-Savvas-Savopoulos-family-amp-Veralicia-Figueroa-murdered-Daron-Wint-Arrested-9/page47

Very interesting about the different companies in NY and MD with similar names. He definitely has a point. It really makes sense.

I completely agree... I saw the same report about paying back the Guyanese workers when I was researching... here is the person who posted on the Websleuths (I am not posting his/her entire post, just the part about Wint possibly feeling left out of a payout)

Please bear with me here.
We know DDW has connections to NYC and we are told his girlfriend lives in Brooklyn. It is also likely he has connection to the Guyanese community in NYC as well.

On Monday, May 18, 2015 the New York Daily News reported:
...Nearly three dozen construction workers — mostly Guyanese immigrants — got back pay Monday totaling close to $1 million after a city probe found they’d been ripped off by their employer.

The checks for the North American Iron Works employees — who worked on city schools and the Queens Museum from 2010 to 2012 — ranged from $382 to $73,801, according to city Controller Scott Stringer’s office....

Link:
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.2227392

The announcement/press conference occurred on Monday, May 18th. In the photograph in the Observer article, NYC Controller, Scott Stringer is at the podium and he is surrounded by North American Iron Works employees. It is probable the knowledge of funds being recouped for the workers was disseminated among the community in the weeks or week before the May 18th announcement. DWW may have even known some of those receiving compensation.

It is possible that DDW felt slighted, cheated, possibly jealous and became angry and volatile. With the timing of this payout, it is plausible DDW approach the SS family on May 13, 2015 to settle whatever he perceived was denied him or done to him. This wasn't a straight up, robbery, burglary related to greed. This crime was personal and unique to DWW. He was enraged, he escalated and exacted his violent revenge on this poor family.
DDW DNA, blood evidence and likely additional evidence will assure either life in prison or if possible through case circumstances/locales, the death penalty.
If the death penalty applies, it may still be life in prison because it's possible there are significant mitigating factors in his background and/or he is mentally ill.

Although DDW will never leave prison, it is still hard to accept this dangerous man was free in the community to commit this horrible crime at all.

Peace to those who loved the victims of this crime.

Maybe it was the totality of perceived injustices that propelled Wint to act. The past history of AIW relative firing and him no longer working there (reason unknown), the possibility of the knowledge of the lawsuit of the NY Guyanese iron workers and maybe the Baltimore headlines of unrest and then his own challenges with being civil that snowballed horribly. This could be part of the motive. I guess I realize that no matter what is given as the explanation it is -- never ever enough to warrant such behavior or even remotely make sense.

This is not the same company. Savaas ran American Iron Works. This article is about North American Iron Works in New York City.

--
Yes ---that is known, that there are 2 different iron companies.
It is the possible connection with any fellow Guyanese iron workers that were in NY, where his GF lives that might have added motivation

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Savopoulos called Wallace at 11:54 a.m on Thursday, May 14, but the call was not answered, records show. It was the last incoming or outgoing call Savopoulos made or answered before the fire and his murder, which police say occurred sometime between noon and 1:24 P.M Thursday, when Washington emergency personnel were dispatched after reports of a house fire.

http://www.nate-thayer.com/owner-docs-of-savopoulos-700000-race-car-seized-from-jordan-wallace-in-d-c-murder-probe/

Thanks for the link. If true, I agree that is highly suspicious behavior on the assistant's part. If innocent, wouldn't he have immediately responded to his boss' text? Even if driving, wouldn't he have pulled over to respond to his boss' text ?? After dropping off $40,000??!!

But, Please help me understand this:

We can presume that all the texts/calls from Mr. Savapoulos' phone at that point were either made under duress or by Wint himself. If JW was an accomplice, he would have known the calls weren't coming from Mr. Savapoulos himself, but from Wint. Wouldn't he have picked up the call so he could talk with his co-conspirator?

I am very torn about this!

I think you can safely assume that he didn't hear the phone ringing. I know that when I am at Home Depot or Lowes, it is near impossible to receive or make calls because of the steel building construction.

If he were involved in an ongoing murder (maybe) and/or in communication with his boss about a massive amount of cash that was at one point in his possession (definitely), you'd think he would be on high alert for his phone ringing..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You might be interested in this post on Websleuths. The writer makes the point this crime was personal, doubtfully motivated by greed.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?281668-DC-Savvas-Savopoulos-family-amp-Veralicia-Figueroa-murdered-Daron-Wint-Arrested-9/page47

Very interesting about the different companies in NY and MD with similar names. He definitely has a point. It really makes sense.

I completely agree... I saw the same report about paying back the Guyanese workers when I was researching... here is the person who posted on the Websleuths (I am not posting his/her entire post, just the part about Wint possibly feeling left out of a payout)

Please bear with me here.
We know DDW has connections to NYC and we are told his girlfriend lives in Brooklyn. It is also likely he has connection to the Guyanese community in NYC as well.

On Monday, May 18, 2015 the New York Daily News reported:
...Nearly three dozen construction workers — mostly Guyanese immigrants — got back pay Monday totaling close to $1 million after a city probe found they’d been ripped off by their employer.

The checks for the North American Iron Works employees — who worked on city schools and the Queens Museum from 2010 to 2012 — ranged from $382 to $73,801, according to city Controller Scott Stringer’s office....

Link:
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.2227392

The announcement/press conference occurred on Monday, May 18th. In the photograph in the Observer article, NYC Controller, Scott Stringer is at the podium and he is surrounded by North American Iron Works employees. It is probable the knowledge of funds being recouped for the workers was disseminated among the community in the weeks or week before the May 18th announcement. DWW may have even known some of those receiving compensation.

It is possible that DDW felt slighted, cheated, possibly jealous and became angry and volatile. With the timing of this payout, it is plausible DDW approach the SS family on May 13, 2015 to settle whatever he perceived was denied him or done to him. This wasn't a straight up, robbery, burglary related to greed. This crime was personal and unique to DWW. He was enraged, he escalated and exacted his violent revenge on this poor family.
DDW DNA, blood evidence and likely additional evidence will assure either life in prison or if possible through case circumstances/locales, the death penalty.
If the death penalty applies, it may still be life in prison because it's possible there are significant mitigating factors in his background and/or he is mentally ill.

Although DDW will never leave prison, it is still hard to accept this dangerous man was free in the community to commit this horrible crime at all.

Peace to those who loved the victims of this crime.

Maybe it was the totality of perceived injustices that propelled Wint to act. The past history of AIW relative firing and him no longer working there (reason unknown), the possibility of the knowledge of the lawsuit of the NY Guyanese iron workers and maybe the Baltimore headlines of unrest and then his own challenges with being civil that snowballed horribly. This could be part of the motive. I guess I realize that no matter what is given as the explanation it is -- never ever enough to warrant such behavior or even remotely make sense.

This is not the same company. Savaas ran American Iron Works. This article is about North American Iron Works in New York City.

We know that. The original poster's point was maybe the story provoked Wint. The execution of this crime is clearly so personal for Wint.

Just My Opinion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You might be interested in this post on Websleuths. The writer makes the point this crime was personal, doubtfully motivated by greed.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?281668-DC-Savvas-Savopoulos-family-amp-Veralicia-Figueroa-murdered-Daron-Wint-Arrested-9/page47

Very interesting about the different companies in NY and MD with similar names. He definitely has a point. It really makes sense.

I completely agree... I saw the same report about paying back the Guyanese workers when I was researching... here is the person who posted on the Websleuths (I am not posting his/her entire post, just the part about Wint possibly feeling left out of a payout)

Please bear with me here.
We know DDW has connections to NYC and we are told his girlfriend lives in Brooklyn. It is also likely he has connection to the Guyanese community in NYC as well.

On Monday, May 18, 2015 the New York Daily News reported:
...Nearly three dozen construction workers — mostly Guyanese immigrants — got back pay Monday totaling close to $1 million after a city probe found they’d been ripped off by their employer.

The checks for the North American Iron Works employees — who worked on city schools and the Queens Museum from 2010 to 2012 — ranged from $382 to $73,801, according to city Controller Scott Stringer’s office....

Link:
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.2227392

The announcement/press conference occurred on Monday, May 18th. In the photograph in the Observer article, NYC Controller, Scott Stringer is at the podium and he is surrounded by North American Iron Works employees. It is probable the knowledge of funds being recouped for the workers was disseminated among the community in the weeks or week before the May 18th announcement. DWW may have even known some of those receiving compensation.

It is possible that DDW felt slighted, cheated, possibly jealous and became angry and volatile. With the timing of this payout, it is plausible DDW approach the SS family on May 13, 2015 to settle whatever he perceived was denied him or done to him. This wasn't a straight up, robbery, burglary related to greed. This crime was personal and unique to DWW. He was enraged, he escalated and exacted his violent revenge on this poor family.
DDW DNA, blood evidence and likely additional evidence will assure either life in prison or if possible through case circumstances/locales, the death penalty.
If the death penalty applies, it may still be life in prison because it's possible there are significant mitigating factors in his background and/or he is mentally ill.

Although DDW will never leave prison, it is still hard to accept this dangerous man was free in the community to commit this horrible crime at all.

Peace to those who loved the victims of this crime.

Maybe it was the totality of perceived injustices that propelled Wint to act. The past history of AIW relative firing and him no longer working there (reason unknown), the possibility of the knowledge of the lawsuit of the NY Guyanese iron workers and maybe the Baltimore headlines of unrest and then his own challenges with being civil that snowballed horribly. This could be part of the motive. I guess I realize that no matter what is given as the explanation it is -- never ever enough to warrant such behavior or even remotely make sense.

This is not the same company. Savaas ran American Iron Works. This article is about North American Iron Works in New York City.

We know that. The original poster's point was maybe the story provoked Wint. The execution of this crime is clearly so personal for Wint.

Just My Opinion.

Thanks….Yes that is exactly what I meant.
There are some personalities that actually keep tally or accumulate perceived "injustices' to them and then "go off" b/c their sense of extreme injustice has reached in their distorted view, too much. So all of these things provoked him. ITA with the personal component on part of Wint b/c of the knife and the manner it was used. I think it screams of that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You might be interested in this post on Websleuths. The writer makes the point this crime was personal, doubtfully motivated by greed.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?281668-DC-Savvas-Savopoulos-family-amp-Veralicia-Figueroa-murdered-Daron-Wint-Arrested-9/page47

Very interesting about the different companies in NY and MD with similar names. He definitely has a point. It really makes sense.

I completely agree... I saw the same report about paying back the Guyanese workers when I was researching... here is the person who posted on the Websleuths (I am not posting his/her entire post, just the part about Wint possibly feeling left out of a payout)

Please bear with me here.
We know DDW has connections to NYC and we are told his girlfriend lives in Brooklyn. It is also likely he has connection to the Guyanese community in NYC as well.

On Monday, May 18, 2015 the New York Daily News reported:
...Nearly three dozen construction workers — mostly Guyanese immigrants — got back pay Monday totaling close to $1 million after a city probe found they’d been ripped off by their employer.

The checks for the North American Iron Works employees — who worked on city schools and the Queens Museum from 2010 to 2012 — ranged from $382 to $73,801, according to city Controller Scott Stringer’s office....

Link:
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.2227392

The announcement/press conference occurred on Monday, May 18th. In the photograph in the Observer article, NYC Controller, Scott Stringer is at the podium and he is surrounded by North American Iron Works employees. It is probable the knowledge of funds being recouped for the workers was disseminated among the community in the weeks or week before the May 18th announcement. DWW may have even known some of those receiving compensation.

It is possible that DDW felt slighted, cheated, possibly jealous and became angry and volatile. With the timing of this payout, it is plausible DDW approach the SS family on May 13, 2015 to settle whatever he perceived was denied him or done to him. This wasn't a straight up, robbery, burglary related to greed. This crime was personal and unique to DWW. He was enraged, he escalated and exacted his violent revenge on this poor family.
DDW DNA, blood evidence and likely additional evidence will assure either life in prison or if possible through case circumstances/locales, the death penalty.
If the death penalty applies, it may still be life in prison because it's possible there are significant mitigating factors in his background and/or he is mentally ill.

Although DDW will never leave prison, it is still hard to accept this dangerous man was free in the community to commit this horrible crime at all.

Peace to those who loved the victims of this crime.

Maybe it was the totality of perceived injustices that propelled Wint to act. The past history of AIW relative firing and him no longer working there (reason unknown), the possibility of the knowledge of the lawsuit of the NY Guyanese iron workers and maybe the Baltimore headlines of unrest and then his own challenges with being civil that snowballed horribly. This could be part of the motive. I guess I realize that no matter what is given as the explanation it is -- never ever enough to warrant such behavior or even remotely make sense.

This is not the same company. Savaas ran American Iron Works. This article is about North American Iron Works in New York City.

We know that. The original poster's point was maybe the story provoked Wint. The execution of this crime is clearly so personal for Wint.

Just My Opinion.

Speculation here... And maybe Wint didn't realize they were two different companies.

[Anonymous]

I think a major link lies in the child. The child was the one tortured and burned beyond recognition. That's a reflection of true hatred. Even some of the harshest criminals would feel some level of remorse for children.

This may have been covered, but why were the 2 daughters away at a boarding school but not the boy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think a major link lies in the child. The child was the one tortured and burned beyond recognition. That's a reflection of true hatred. Even some of the harshest criminals would feel some level of remorse for children.

This may have been covered, but why were the 2 daughters away at a boarding school but not the boy?

Obviously used as leverage.
Daughters are much older.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You might be interested in this post on Websleuths. The writer makes the point this crime was personal, doubtfully motivated by greed.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?281668-DC-Savvas-Savopoulos-family-amp-Veralicia-Figueroa-murdered-Daron-Wint-Arrested-9/page47

Very interesting about the different companies in NY and MD with similar names. He definitely has a point. It really makes sense.

I completely agree... I saw the same report about paying back the Guyanese workers when I was researching... here is the person who posted on the Websleuths (I am not posting his/her entire post, just the part about Wint possibly feeling left out of a payout)

Please bear with me here.
We know DDW has connections to NYC and we are told his girlfriend lives in Brooklyn. It is also likely he has connection to the Guyanese community in NYC as well.

On Monday, May 18, 2015 the New York Daily News reported:
...Nearly three dozen construction workers — mostly Guyanese immigrants — got back pay Monday totaling close to $1 million after a city probe found they’d been ripped off by their employer.

The checks for the North American Iron Works employees — who worked on city schools and the Queens Museum from 2010 to 2012 — ranged from $382 to $73,801, according to city Controller Scott Stringer’s office....

Link:
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.2227392

The announcement/press conference occurred on Monday, May 18th. In the photograph in the Observer article, NYC Controller, Scott Stringer is at the podium and he is surrounded by North American Iron Works employees. It is probable the knowledge of funds being recouped for the workers was disseminated among the community in the weeks or week before the May 18th announcement. DWW may have even known some of those receiving compensation.

It is possible that DDW felt slighted, cheated, possibly jealous and became angry and volatile. With the timing of this payout, it is plausible DDW approach the SS family on May 13, 2015 to settle whatever he perceived was denied him or done to him. This wasn't a straight up, robbery, burglary related to greed. This crime was personal and unique to DWW. He was enraged, he escalated and exacted his violent revenge on this poor family.
DDW DNA, blood evidence and likely additional evidence will assure either life in prison or if possible through case circumstances/locales, the death penalty.
If the death penalty applies, it may still be life in prison because it's possible there are significant mitigating factors in his background and/or he is mentally ill.

Although DDW will never leave prison, it is still hard to accept this dangerous man was free in the community to commit this horrible crime at all.

Peace to those who loved the victims of this crime.

Maybe it was the totality of perceived injustices that propelled Wint to act. The past history of AIW relative firing and him no longer working there (reason unknown), the possibility of the knowledge of the lawsuit of the NY Guyanese iron workers and maybe the Baltimore headlines of unrest and then his own challenges with being civil that snowballed horribly. This could be part of the motive. I guess I realize that no matter what is given as the explanation it is -- never ever enough to warrant such behavior or even remotely make sense.

This is not the same company. Savaas ran American Iron Works. This article is about North American Iron Works in New York City.

We know that. The original poster's point was maybe the story provoked Wint. The execution of this crime is clearly so personal for Wint.

Just My Opinion.

Speculation here... And maybe Wint didn't realize they were two different companies.

OR he grouped all similar companies together …. such as all iron companies/ construction companies and concluded in his mind that AIW probably acted like the iron company in NY that was involved in the lawsuit.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree, think he did it alone. They haven't charged anyone else. It really did not take a rocket scientist, he just did it and it worked for.him, until science identified him. Now on to death penalty phase. If anyone helped him he would have given them up by now, he has nothing.left to lose but his pathetic life.

Likely more than one person - referenced earlier in this thread - Several construction worker type vests were found in the garage of the house. A man with short hair (Wint has long dreads) wearing same vest as those found at scene was seen driving the Porsche erratically down New York Ave & they found same type of vest in the Porsche when it was found in the church lot.