Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:350+ pages, most are which consists of posts trying to convince everyone that the shooter was far right MAGA.

And like most of the lies told by the Democrat left, this one is now going down in flames.

This post uses a few recognizable rhetorical strategies:

1. **Dismissive framing** – “350+ pages” is used not to engage with arguments but to belittle the effort, portraying it as excessive and misguided.

2. **Ad hominem/generalization** – By labeling it “lies told by the Democrat left,” the writer doesn’t address evidence but attacks a whole political group, suggesting dishonesty is inherent to them.

3. **Triumphalist language** – “Going down in flames” is a metaphor meant to suggest total defeat of the opposing narrative, regardless of whether the facts support that claim.

4. **False dichotomy** – The framing implies only two options exist: either the shooter was “far right MAGA” (supposedly disproven) or the opposing claim (left-wing radicalization) must be true. That leaves no room for complexity.

So, this is an example of **partisan polemic rhetoric**, heavy on ridicule, exaggeration, and group-label attacks, rather than evidence-based argument.

Thx chat got, I’ll pass

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's disgusting how all of these people professing to be so angered and distraught over the shooting of Charlie Kirk have

JACK SHIT

to say about any of the other violent, ideologically motivated shootings going on, like the one in Colorado.

https://coloradosun.com/2025/09/12/evergreen-high-school-shooting-suspect-social-media/

You people are dishonest, disingenuous and full of crap.

Did any victims die? No

Did anyone famous in a natl scale die? No.

How many people get shot and killed daily in America? With or without gang on gang shootings?

CO boy was a social media influenced shooter who injured two and then killed himself.

Do you want him to get more attention so other troubled young men do the same? Or what do you want?

We want gun control for starters.

Just remember Charlie could be here tonight reading Goodnight Moon to his kids.

Trans or not, he probably still would be if Robinson wasn't raised in a gun-obsessed family.

Yes trans is irrelevant.

Have you been on reddit lately? I doubt it. I can only imagine what's going on discord. It's relevant. Very.

So then what? Grab their guns? Deny their purchase of guns? Please do it. Set precedent.

Yes first take away the trans peoples’ guns, that would be a good start. Then go from there.

So take away everyone’s guns?

Seems extreme

Ideally

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's disgusting how all of these people professing to be so angered and distraught over the shooting of Charlie Kirk have

JACK SHIT

to say about any of the other violent, ideologically motivated shootings going on, like the one in Colorado.

https://coloradosun.com/2025/09/12/evergreen-high-school-shooting-suspect-social-media/

You people are dishonest, disingenuous and full of crap.

Did any victims die? No

Did anyone famous in a natl scale die? No.

How many people get shot and killed daily in America? With or without gang on gang shootings?

CO boy was a social media influenced shooter who injured two and then killed himself.

Do you want him to get more attention so other troubled young men do the same? Or what do you want?

We want gun control for starters.

Just remember Charlie could be here tonight reading Goodnight Moon to his kids.

I doubt it. Childcare is women's work.

Reading a book to your child is not “childcare.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's disgusting how all of these people professing to be so angered and distraught over the shooting of Charlie Kirk have

JACK SHIT

to say about any of the other violent, ideologically motivated shootings going on, like the one in Colorado.

https://coloradosun.com/2025/09/12/evergreen-high-school-shooting-suspect-social-media/

You people are dishonest, disingenuous and full of crap.

Did any victims die? No

Did anyone famous in a natl scale die? No.

How many people get shot and killed daily in America? With or without gang on gang shootings?

CO boy was a social media influenced shooter who injured two and then killed himself.

Do you want him to get more attention so other troubled young men do the same? Or what do you want?

We want gun control for starters.

Just remember Charlie could be here tonight reading Goodnight Moon to his kids.

Trans or not, he probably still would be if Robinson wasn't raised in a gun-obsessed family.

Yes trans is irrelevant.

Have you been on reddit lately? I doubt it. I can only imagine what's going on discord. It's relevant. Very.

So then what? Grab their guns? Deny their purchase of guns? Please do it. Set precedent.

Yes first take away the trans peoples’ guns, that would be a good start. Then go from there.

So take away everyone’s guns?

Seems extreme

Why do you need a gun?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's disgusting how all of these people professing to be so angered and distraught over the shooting of Charlie Kirk have

JACK SHIT

to say about any of the other violent, ideologically motivated shootings going on, like the one in Colorado.

https://coloradosun.com/2025/09/12/evergreen-high-school-shooting-suspect-social-media/

You people are dishonest, disingenuous and full of crap.

Did any victims die? No

Did anyone famous in a natl scale die? No.

How many people get shot and killed daily in America? With or without gang on gang shootings?

CO boy was a social media influenced shooter who injured two and then killed himself.

Do you want him to get more attention so other troubled young men do the same? Or what do you want?

We want gun control for starters.

Just remember Charlie could be here tonight reading Goodnight Moon to his kids.

I doubt it. Childcare is women's work.

Reading a book to your child is not “childcare.”

My dad didn’t even know what school we went to. He dropped me off to the wrong prek and decades later it still traumatizes me.

Yes, unfortunately for those types, any involvement with the young kids beyond financial is “women’s work”. They don’t care how damaging having an emotionally distant father or husband is on a young family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:350+ pages, most are which consists of posts trying to convince everyone that the shooter was far right MAGA.

And like most of the lies told by the Democrat left, this one is now going down in flames.

This post uses a few recognizable rhetorical strategies:

1. **Dismissive framing** – “350+ pages” is used not to engage with arguments but to belittle the effort, portraying it as excessive and misguided.

2. **Ad hominem/generalization** – By labeling it “lies told by the Democrat left,” the writer doesn’t address evidence but attacks a whole political group, suggesting dishonesty is inherent to them.

3. **Triumphalist language** – “Going down in flames” is a metaphor meant to suggest total defeat of the opposing narrative, regardless of whether the facts support that claim.

4. **False dichotomy** – The framing implies only two options exist: either the shooter was “far right MAGA” (supposedly disproven) or the opposing claim (left-wing radicalization) must be true. That leaves no room for complexity.

So, this is an example of **partisan polemic rhetoric**, heavy on ridicule, exaggeration, and group-label attacks, rather than evidence-based argument.

Thx chat got, I’ll pass

Glad you have been informed of your rhetoric fallacy. You had to read the post to make a comment on it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's disgusting how all of these people professing to be so angered and distraught over the shooting of Charlie Kirk have

JACK SHIT

to say about any of the other violent, ideologically motivated shootings going on, like the one in Colorado.

https://coloradosun.com/2025/09/12/evergreen-high-school-shooting-suspect-social-media/

You people are dishonest, disingenuous and full of crap.

Did any victims die? No

Did anyone famous in a natl scale die? No.

How many people get shot and killed daily in America? With or without gang on gang shootings?

CO boy was a social media influenced shooter who injured two and then killed himself.

Do you want him to get more attention so other troubled young men do the same? Or what do you want?

We want gun control for starters.

Just remember Charlie could be here tonight reading Goodnight Moon to his kids.

I doubt it. Childcare is women's work.

Well now his kids don’t have a dad at all. They will never even remember him. That would be my main life mission as his widow.

Well now he should have thought about that over choosing a career of inciting vicious political division. But nah, he chose that over raising his kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's disgusting how all of these people professing to be so angered and distraught over the shooting of Charlie Kirk have

JACK SHIT

to say about any of the other violent, ideologically motivated shootings going on, like the one in Colorado.

https://coloradosun.com/2025/09/12/evergreen-high-school-shooting-suspect-social-media/

You people are dishonest, disingenuous and full of crap.

Did any victims die? No

Did anyone famous in a natl scale die? No.

How many people get shot and killed daily in America? With or without gang on gang shootings?

CO boy was a social media influenced shooter who injured two and then killed himself.

Do you want him to get more attention so other troubled young men do the same? Or what do you want?

Ehhh, not a very good reply there. You're saying that school shootings are so normalized as to be irrelevant to any discourse. This is the very environment that CK was part of creating.

A gun suicide in a high school will never get the attention of a sniper attack and killing of a fairly well known public figure.

Sorry. But that’s true everywhere in the world.

Also true, if every shooting was newscasts everywhere at all times, people would indeed tune out. Even in countries with more handgun or assault weapon bans and difficult processes- like Mexico.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's disgusting how all of these people professing to be so angered and distraught over the shooting of Charlie Kirk have

JACK SHIT

to say about any of the other violent, ideologically motivated shootings going on, like the one in Colorado.

https://coloradosun.com/2025/09/12/evergreen-high-school-shooting-suspect-social-media/

You people are dishonest, disingenuous and full of crap.

Did any victims die? No

Did anyone famous in a natl scale die? No.

How many people get shot and killed daily in America? With or without gang on gang shootings?

CO boy was a social media influenced shooter who injured two and then killed himself.

Do you want him to get more attention so other troubled young men do the same? Or what do you want?

We want gun control for starters.

Just remember Charlie could be here tonight reading Goodnight Moon to his kids.

Trans or not, he probably still would be if Robinson wasn't raised in a gun-obsessed family.

Yes trans is irrelevant.

Trans is relevent because it changes the meaning of two of his meme engravings. Making him someone who was torn between his internet reality and his life reality and very cliche.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's disgusting how all of these people professing to be so angered and distraught over the shooting of Charlie Kirk have

JACK SHIT

to say about any of the other violent, ideologically motivated shootings going on, like the one in Colorado.

https://coloradosun.com/2025/09/12/evergreen-high-school-shooting-suspect-social-media/

You people are dishonest, disingenuous and full of crap.

Did any victims die? No

Did anyone famous in a natl scale die? No.

How many people get shot and killed daily in America? With or without gang on gang shootings?

CO boy was a social media influenced shooter who injured two and then killed himself.

Do you want him to get more attention so other troubled young men do the same? Or what do you want?

We want gun control for starters.

Just remember Charlie could be here tonight reading Goodnight Moon to his kids.

I doubt it. Childcare is women's work.

Reading a book to your child is not “childcare.”

My dad didn’t even know what school we went to. He dropped me off to the wrong prek and decades later it still traumatizes me.

Yes, unfortunately for those types, any involvement with the young kids beyond financial is “women’s work”. They don’t care how damaging having an emotionally distant father or husband is on a young family.

But from a child’s perspective, it would be nice if Daddy was still here. It would be nice to be able to remember your dad. His kids won’t have this experience. All because of a gun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[twitter]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's disgusting how all of these people professing to be so angered and distraught over the shooting of Charlie Kirk have

JACK SHIT

to say about any of the other violent, ideologically motivated shootings going on, like the one in Colorado.

https://coloradosun.com/2025/09/12/evergreen-high-school-shooting-suspect-social-media/

You people are dishonest, disingenuous and full of crap.

Did any victims die? No

Did anyone famous in a natl scale die? No.

How many people get shot and killed daily in America? With or without gang on gang shootings?

CO boy was a social media influenced shooter who injured two and then killed himself.

Do you want him to get more attention so other troubled young men do the same? Or what do you want?

We want gun control for starters.

Just remember Charlie could be here tonight reading Goodnight Moon to his kids.

Trans or not, he probably still would be if Robinson wasn't raised in a gun-obsessed family.

Yes trans is irrelevant.

Have you been on reddit lately? I doubt it. I can only imagine what's going on discord. It's relevant. Very.

So then what? Grab their guns? Deny their purchase of guns? Please do it. Set precedent.

Yes first take away the trans peoples’ guns, that would be a good start. Then go from there.

So take away everyone’s guns?

Seems extreme

Why do you need a gun?

Americans don't NEED guns. They just want guns. They want to emulate fake personas they see in the tv they watch, the games they play and so on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's disgusting how all of these people professing to be so angered and distraught over the shooting of Charlie Kirk have

JACK SHIT

to say about any of the other violent, ideologically motivated shootings going on, like the one in Colorado.

https://coloradosun.com/2025/09/12/evergreen-high-school-shooting-suspect-social-media/

You people are dishonest, disingenuous and full of crap.

Did any victims die? No

Did anyone famous in a natl scale die? No.

How many people get shot and killed daily in America? With or without gang on gang shootings?

CO boy was a social media influenced shooter who injured two and then killed himself.

Do you want him to get more attention so other troubled young men do the same? Or what do you want?

So you want to give THIS story more attention so other troubled young men participate in political violence? Or what do you want?

No one but echo chamber social media is doing that. Attention and speculation or regurg the press release.

Mass media is reporting the facts from the FBI and governor on the case. That is all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's disgusting how all of these people professing to be so angered and distraught over the shooting of Charlie Kirk have

JACK SHIT

to say about any of the other violent, ideologically motivated shootings going on, like the one in Colorado.

https://coloradosun.com/2025/09/12/evergreen-high-school-shooting-suspect-social-media/

You people are dishonest, disingenuous and full of crap.

Did any victims die? No

Did anyone famous in a natl scale die? No.

How many people get shot and killed daily in America? With or without gang on gang shootings?

CO boy was a social media influenced shooter who injured two and then killed himself.

Do you want him to get more attention so other troubled young men do the same? Or what do you want?

We want gun control for starters.

Just remember Charlie could be here tonight reading Goodnight Moon to his kids.

Trans or not, he probably still would be if Robinson wasn't raised in a gun-obsessed family.

Yes trans is irrelevant.

Trans is relevent because it changes the meaning of two of his meme engravings. Making him someone who was torn between his internet reality and his life reality and very cliche.

It could be part of the story...but then we get to the 'so what?' What is to be done? Take their guns? Go for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's disgusting how all of these people professing to be so angered and distraught over the shooting of Charlie Kirk have

JACK SHIT

to say about any of the other violent, ideologically motivated shootings going on, like the one in Colorado.

https://coloradosun.com/2025/09/12/evergreen-high-school-shooting-suspect-social-media/

You people are dishonest, disingenuous and full of crap.

Did any victims die? No

Did anyone famous in a natl scale die? No.

How many people get shot and killed daily in America? With or without gang on gang shootings?

CO boy was a social media influenced shooter who injured two and then killed himself.

Do you want him to get more attention so other troubled young men do the same? Or what do you want?

We want gun control for starters.

Just remember Charlie could be here tonight reading Goodnight Moon to his kids.

Trans or not, he probably still would be if Robinson wasn't raised in a gun-obsessed family.

Yes trans is irrelevant.

Trans is relevent because it changes the meaning of two of his meme engravings. Making him someone who was torn between his internet reality and his life reality and very cliche.

His meme engravings don't matter either actually. What only matters is that this particular individual decided to murder someone. That's it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[twitter]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's disgusting how all of these people professing to be so angered and distraught over the shooting of Charlie Kirk have

JACK SHIT

to say about any of the other violent, ideologically motivated shootings going on, like the one in Colorado.

https://coloradosun.com/2025/09/12/evergreen-high-school-shooting-suspect-social-media/

You people are dishonest, disingenuous and full of crap.

Did any victims die? No

Did anyone famous in a natl scale die? No.

How many people get shot and killed daily in America? With or without gang on gang shootings?

CO boy was a social media influenced shooter who injured two and then killed himself.

Do you want him to get more attention so other troubled young men do the same? Or what do you want?

We want gun control for starters.

Just remember Charlie could be here tonight reading Goodnight Moon to his kids.

Trans or not, he probably still would be if Robinson wasn't raised in a gun-obsessed family.

Yes trans is irrelevant.

Have you been on reddit lately? I doubt it. I can only imagine what's going on discord. It's relevant. Very.

So then what? Grab their guns? Deny their purchase of guns? Please do it. Set precedent.

Yes first take away the trans peoples’ guns, that would be a good start. Then go from there.

So take away everyone’s guns?

Seems extreme

Why do you need a gun?

I don’t need one. I was replying to a poster that said we start by taking away guns from trans people and go from there. I assume that means confiscating other people’s firearms. Even the NRA said that was a terrible idea and I tend to agree. Vulnerable populations need to be able to protect themselves. That’s sad. I do believe Americans have some right to access firearms, but there are restrictions on that freedom just like every other freedom.