How does Trayon White still have a job?
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Anonymous
^I'm concerned that this poster seems hell-bent on making this a "blacks against Jews" discussion. From what I can gather, this seems to be a single poster ranting about the plight of black people in America vs other minorities. Trying to make broader, by saying it's a blacks against Jews issue seems suspicious. Again, I think we need to be careful not to get baited, one way or another. |
Anonymous
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Black person here. Keep in mind that this is an anonymous forum, so it's impossible to know whether people are who they say they are. IRL, I honestly have not heard of any resentment towards Jews by other AAs.
I grew up in the South and did not really know any Jewish people growing up, never learned about the Holocaust in school, and really didn't meet any self-identified Jews until grad school. My Jewish classmates basically schooled me on a lot of things at that time. At worst I've possibly detected indifference towards Jews among a segment of AAs (again, particularly in the South) but not outright anti-Semitism, especially among people who grew up as I did in predominantly AA settings where people don't know Jews or know much about their history, and some may see them as just another group of white people. However, I currently live in a black and Jewish neighborhood in DC where everyone gets along wonderfully. I like that our kids are growing up learning about each other's cultures, history, holidays, etc. Also, please keep in mind that the people who post here are not necessarily representative of a community's sentiments towards a particular group of people--opinions on the Internet come with a large selection bias. |
Anonymous
I'm bout to do my due diligence for a few but y'all go ahead and do me a favor and let me know if this is venomous. |
Anonymous
I appreciate your post, and it's possible that the people showing themselves as angry and antisemtitc black males - which they do in their posts - are not who they pretend to be. Still, the hatred and resentment they exoress is so visceral at a gut level that I tend to believe it is real. That said, you'll note that I did not say I am reconsidering my donations to the program helping poor black children, as I don't want to punish children for the prejudice of their parents. Still, it does take discipline for me to continue my support when that help is attacked as being "patronizing." I'm not asking for accolades for donating to black causes, but I don't expect to be attacked for it either. Finally, your poat provides nice counterpoint to the seeming black-hatred-for-Jews posts I've been seeing, and is very reassuring. Thank you. |
Anonymous
NP Ah look at you being dismissive by calling what previous PP said a 'nice rant' , by the same token isn't what you wrote a 'nice rant' too? What makes you think that your attempt to 'all lives matter' the subject is the correct course ?Standing against bigotry and being the continued victim of bigotry are two completely different things . One can choose to stand against all forms of bigotry without negating the fact there is a group that's been and continues to be disproportionately affected by all forms of bigotry , Jews are not getting killed by cops and being let go by complicit juries , Jewish kids are not disciplined on a higher and harsher level than non Jewish kids , there has never been a sustained effort at the local,state and federal level to incarcerate as many Jewish men as possible , Jews ( particularly men) are not paid less than their black counterparts even if and when experience and competence are equal,Jews are not victims of slumlords in ways the minorities are victims of Jewish slumlords ( Kushner co. Anyone?) , Jews are not given harsher sentences for crimes they commit compared to other groups , the list is far from exhaustive At no point in your comment did you even bother to acknowledge this , you instead chose to say we stand together or grow marginalized which is laughable . Provide me evidence of Jewish marginalization in 2018 America and I'm sure it won't even be compelling enough to warrant a comparison to the examples I cited above. At your core you're a fundamentally dishonest person and such dishonesty is driving away all kinds of people from you |
Anonymous
P.S. I'd just add that I don't think this view is correct at all, in case it wasn't clear. I'm just commenting about views among some people who have not had much exposure to Jewish people and are less well-educated on Jewish culture/religion/history. |
Anonymous
Is it possible that the angry rants against Jews throughout this forum is from just one black man, intent on driving more division beween blacks and Jews? We need more black people to come out and say that Trayon White is wrong and should resign, and did the black man upthread a couple of posts. |
Anonymous
No matter how many times you peddle the side-by-side argument , it doesn't change the facts on the ground .Respect is a two way street , when you insist on having people see things your way and choose to be dismiss their perspective . Expect a blowback , you've never respected them to begin with . |
Anonymous
Isn't it funny how we've quickly reached the conclusion that it must be a BLACK MAN . Hopefully you now see the pertinence of previous posters arguments . It can't be black woman , a Caucasian or any other minority , nope it has tombe a BLACK MAN . Thanks for proving the point , now argue with your keyboard |
Anonymous
What is with this "how many times you peddle" business? There is more than one poster sharing the same views. To my ears, that sounded like a completely new poster, actually. |
Anonymous
because he SAID he was a black man! |
Anonymous
I'm a 50 year old black male. I was raised in the South. I went to HBCUs for undergrad and graduate school in different parts of the country. NOT ONCE, in any of those places, did I come across ANY anti-Semitism. On the other hand, in all of those settings - the South and the HBCUs - it was commonplace for black people to discuss its plight, the cause of which was largely believed stemmed from systemic discrimination from white people. Jews just did not (and still do not) factor into these discussions. |
Anonymous
9:06 here, late 30s black woman from the South who also attended an HBCU for undergrad. Agree with these sentiments. |
Anonymous
1. It didn't start out as the State in Germany. It started out as bands of bigots who organized and got elected to office. You know, like the kind of people who elected Donald Trump and them marched in Charlottesville. 2. No, Jews do not have much to fear right now, today, from state institutions designed to protect citizens. Black people do, and that is a bigger problem, right now, today. When Douglas high school was shot up, very little attention was paid to the fact that it has a huge Jewish population, and the shooter hated Jews. Even those media-savvy kids knew a focus on anti-semitism as a motive would lessen sympathy for their cause, at the same time they were using that position to also address gun violence in communities of color. They were speaking to left-leaning Americans, and they attempted to fold in communities of color while down-playing Jewishness. That would not have happened 50 years ago. |
Anonymous
I am a [liberal] Jew who also grew up in the South. I didn't have meaningful interactions with large numbers of black people until I became a personal trainer and started working in a gym in my 20s. I think this may be different for blacks and Jews who grew up in cities where both groups had large numbers and lived together in working-class communities in the 1920s-60s. In the South, the Jewish population has always been very small, outside of a handful of large cities. I do think it gives me a different perspective, however, when I hear the argument that white people have all been turning a blind eye to police brutality and other blatant discrimination in the black community. Until the advent of the internet, we really didn't hear much about it. Black people experienced it every day, but white people only heard about particularly egregious incidents in their communities. A lot of people of color don't believe that; they believe because the discrimination was so prevalent all these years, we white people just didn't care enough about it to fight it. But you readily admit you knew little or nothing about Jews and anti-semitism because you hadn't experienced the world as a Jew or as someone who interacted much with Jewish people. Why is it so hard to believe that a lot of white people, including white liberals, are only in the last few years being "schooled" (as this PP calls it) in the extent and brutality of discrimination against AAs and people of color in the US? The internet has allowed us to see these incidents in bulk, in real time, and from all over the US, even if we don't personally know a lot of African Americans. |