Taylor's Feb Rec for Crown Boundary Study

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:i really dont understand the "save wootton" people. the "school" will still exist with the teachers and the programs. why do you cling to a crumbling building?

Because it isn't about the school or the education. It is about the property values.

That and the relatively normal human instinct to reflexively reject change of any kind. Which, while understandable, is not persuasive.

Their property values will not change over school boundaries. It may change because of what is going on in the country right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i really dont understand the "save wootton" people. the "school" will still exist with the teachers and the programs. why do you cling to a crumbling building?

Because it isn't about the school or the education. It is about the property values.

That and the relatively normal human instinct to reflexively reject change of any kind. Which, while understandable, is not persuasive.

Their property values will not change over school boundaries. It may change because of what is going on in the country right now.

What is going on in the country? How will whatever is going on affect property values?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i really dont understand the "save wootton" people. the "school" will still exist with the teachers and the programs. why do you cling to a crumbling building?

Because it isn't about the school or the education. It is about the property values.

That and the relatively normal human instinct to reflexively reject change of any kind. Which, while understandable, is not persuasive.

Their property values will not change over school boundaries. It may change because of what is going on in the country right now.

dumbest comment on this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i really dont understand the "save wootton" people. the "school" will still exist with the teachers and the programs. why do you cling to a crumbling building?

Because it isn't about the school or the education. It is about the property values.

That and the relatively normal human instinct to reflexively reject change of any kind. Which, while understandable, is not persuasive.

Their property values will not change over school boundaries. It may change because of what is going on in the country right now.

Not only will the property values change, but a huge draw for the county will be gone. High income earners that are looking to put down roots are looking at the ratio of home price to academic cluster success. Wootton clears that hurdle for many, and the resulting Crown will not. Taylor has no skin in the game and will not feel the effects, but the County will.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i really dont understand the "save wootton" people. the "school" will still exist with the teachers and the programs. why do you cling to a crumbling building?

Because it isn't about the school or the education. It is about the property values.

That and the relatively normal human instinct to reflexively reject change of any kind. Which, while understandable, is not persuasive.

Their property values will not change over school boundaries. It may change because of what is going on in the country right now.

Not only will the property values change, but a huge draw for the county will be gone. High income earners that are looking to put down roots are looking at the ratio of home price to academic cluster success. Wootton clears that hurdle for many, and the resulting Crown will not. Taylor has no skin in the game and will not feel the effects, but the County will.

1. There is no (research-backed) reason to believe that Wootton at Crown will be meaningfully less "successful" than the current location.
2. The county will not lose high income earners because of this move. There are plenty of other locations within the county with the same "ratio" that you describe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i really dont understand the "save wootton" people. the "school" will still exist with the teachers and the programs. why do you cling to a crumbling building?

Because it isn't about the school or the education. It is about the property values.

That and the relatively normal human instinct to reflexively reject change of any kind. Which, while understandable, is not persuasive.

Their property values will not change over school boundaries. It may change because of what is going on in the country right now.

Not only will the property values change, but a huge draw for the county will be gone. High income earners that are looking to put down roots are looking at the ratio of home price to academic cluster success. Wootton clears that hurdle for many, and the resulting Crown will not. Taylor has no skin in the game and will not feel the effects, but the County will.

1. There is no (research-backed) reason to believe that Wootton at Crown will be meaningfully less "successful" than the current location.
2. The county will not lose high income earners because of this move. There are plenty of other locations within the county with the same "ratio" that you describe.

Of course there isn’t any Crown specific research. It’s not open yet. But it’s common sense that there will be a dip (potentially significant, depending on the past performance of the non-Wootton kids who get to go to Crown). Wootton at Crown may recover in 5-10 years, but the damage will be done.

Yes, the county will lose high income earners, likely to Virginia, as there will be one less “W” school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i really dont understand the "save wootton" people. the "school" will still exist with the teachers and the programs. why do you cling to a crumbling building?

Because it isn't about the school or the education. It is about the property values.

That and the relatively normal human instinct to reflexively reject change of any kind. Which, while understandable, is not persuasive.

Their property values will not change over school boundaries. It may change because of what is going on in the country right now.

Not only will the property values change, but a huge draw for the county will be gone. High income earners that are looking to put down roots are looking at the ratio of home price to academic cluster success. Wootton clears that hurdle for many, and the resulting Crown will not. Taylor has no skin in the game and will not feel the effects, but the County will.

1. There is no (research-backed) reason to believe that Wootton at Crown will be meaningfully less "successful" than the current location.
2. The county will not lose high income earners because of this move. There are plenty of other locations within the county with the same "ratio" that you describe.

Of course there isn’t any Crown specific research. It’s not open yet. But it’s common sense that there will be a dip (potentially significant, depending on the past performance of the non-Wootton kids who get to go to Crown). Wootton at Crown may recover in 5-10 years, but the damage will be done.

Yes, the county will lose high income earners, likely to Virginia, as there will be one less “W” school.

Ohhhhh, so this really is about having Gaithersburg kids in your school and not about the prized location on Wootton Parkway. Whodathunkit?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i really dont understand the "save wootton" people. the "school" will still exist with the teachers and the programs. why do you cling to a crumbling building?

Because it isn't about the school or the education. It is about the property values.

That and the relatively normal human instinct to reflexively reject change of any kind. Which, while understandable, is not persuasive.

Their property values will not change over school boundaries. It may change because of what is going on in the country right now.

Not only will the property values change, but a huge draw for the county will be gone. High income earners that are looking to put down roots are looking at the ratio of home price to academic cluster success. Wootton clears that hurdle for many, and the resulting Crown will not. Taylor has no skin in the game and will not feel the effects, but the County will.

1. There is no (research-backed) reason to believe that Wootton at Crown will be meaningfully less "successful" than the current location.
2. The county will not lose high income earners because of this move. There are plenty of other locations within the county with the same "ratio" that you describe.

Of course there isn’t any Crown specific research. It’s not open yet. But it’s common sense that there will be a dip (potentially significant, depending on the past performance of the non-Wootton kids who get to go to Crown). Wootton at Crown may recover in 5-10 years, but the damage will be done.

Yes, the county will lose high income earners, likely to Virginia, as there will be one less “W” school.

Ohhhhh, so this really is about having Gaithersburg kids in your school and not about the prized location on Wootton Parkway. Whodathunkit?

Wootton is partly Gaithersburg.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i really dont understand the "save wootton" people. the "school" will still exist with the teachers and the programs. why do you cling to a crumbling building?

Because it isn't about the school or the education. It is about the property values.

That and the relatively normal human instinct to reflexively reject change of any kind. Which, while understandable, is not persuasive.

Their property values will not change over school boundaries. It may change because of what is going on in the country right now.

Not only will the property values change, but a huge draw for the county will be gone. High income earners that are looking to put down roots are looking at the ratio of home price to academic cluster success. Wootton clears that hurdle for many, and the resulting Crown will not. Taylor has no skin in the game and will not feel the effects, but the County will.

1. There is no (research-backed) reason to believe that Wootton at Crown will be meaningfully less "successful" than the current location.
2. The county will not lose high income earners because of this move. There are plenty of other locations within the county with the same "ratio" that you describe.

Of course there isn’t any Crown specific research. It’s not open yet. But it’s common sense that there will be a dip (potentially significant, depending on the past performance of the non-Wootton kids who get to go to Crown). Wootton at Crown may recover in 5-10 years, but the damage will be done.

Yes, the county will lose high income earners, likely to Virginia, as there will be one less “W” school.

There is research, cited multiple times on this thread, that contradicts your "common sense."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i really dont understand the "save wootton" people. the "school" will still exist with the teachers and the programs. why do you cling to a crumbling building?

Because it isn't about the school or the education. It is about the property values.

That and the relatively normal human instinct to reflexively reject change of any kind. Which, while understandable, is not persuasive.

Their property values will not change over school boundaries. It may change because of what is going on in the country right now.

Not only will the property values change, but a huge draw for the county will be gone. High income earners that are looking to put down roots are looking at the ratio of home price to academic cluster success. Wootton clears that hurdle for many, and the resulting Crown will not. Taylor has no skin in the game and will not feel the effects, but the County will.

1. There is no (research-backed) reason to believe that Wootton at Crown will be meaningfully less "successful" than the current location.
2. The county will not lose high income earners because of this move. There are plenty of other locations within the county with the same "ratio" that you describe.

Of course there isn’t any Crown specific research. It’s not open yet. But it’s common sense that there will be a dip (potentially significant, depending on the past performance of the non-Wootton kids who get to go to Crown). Wootton at Crown may recover in 5-10 years, but the damage will be done.

Yes, the county will lose high income earners, likely to Virginia, as there will be one less “W” school.

There is research, cited multiple times on this thread, that contradicts your "common sense."

Feel free to share the research. I’d like to read it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i really dont understand the "save wootton" people. the "school" will still exist with the teachers and the programs. why do you cling to a crumbling building?

Because it isn't about the school or the education. It is about the property values.

That and the relatively normal human instinct to reflexively reject change of any kind. Which, while understandable, is not persuasive.

Their property values will not change over school boundaries. It may change because of what is going on in the country right now.

Not only will the property values change, but a huge draw for the county will be gone. High income earners that are looking to put down roots are looking at the ratio of home price to academic cluster success. Wootton clears that hurdle for many, and the resulting Crown will not. Taylor has no skin in the game and will not feel the effects, but the County will.

1. There is no (research-backed) reason to believe that Wootton at Crown will be meaningfully less "successful" than the current location.
2. The county will not lose high income earners because of this move. There are plenty of other locations within the county with the same "ratio" that you describe.

Of course there isn’t any Crown specific research. It’s not open yet. But it’s common sense that there will be a dip (potentially significant, depending on the past performance of the non-Wootton kids who get to go to Crown). Wootton at Crown may recover in 5-10 years, but the damage will be done.

Yes, the county will lose high income earners, likely to Virginia, as there will be one less “W” school.

There is research, cited multiple times on this thread, that contradicts your "common sense."

Feel free to share the research. I’d like to read it.

There is a LOT of great research on this, but here’s one of my favorite summaries. It breaks down the positive benefits both for kids from lower-income backgrounds and those from the higher-resourced communities:

https://tcf.org/content/report/how-racially-diverse-schools-and-classrooms-can-benefit-all-students/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i really dont understand the "save wootton" people. the "school" will still exist with the teachers and the programs. why do you cling to a crumbling building?

Because it isn't about the school or the education. It is about the property values.

That and the relatively normal human instinct to reflexively reject change of any kind. Which, while understandable, is not persuasive.

Their property values will not change over school boundaries. It may change because of what is going on in the country right now.

Not only will the property values change, but a huge draw for the county will be gone. High income earners that are looking to put down roots are looking at the ratio of home price to academic cluster success. Wootton clears that hurdle for many, and the resulting Crown will not. Taylor has no skin in the game and will not feel the effects, but the County will.

1. There is no (research-backed) reason to believe that Wootton at Crown will be meaningfully less "successful" than the current location.
2. The county will not lose high income earners because of this move. There are plenty of other locations within the county with the same "ratio" that you describe.

Of course there isn’t any Crown specific research. It’s not open yet. But it’s common sense that there will be a dip (potentially significant, depending on the past performance of the non-Wootton kids who get to go to Crown). Wootton at Crown may recover in 5-10 years, but the damage will be done.

Yes, the county will lose high income earners, likely to Virginia, as there will be one less “W” school.

There is research, cited multiple times on this thread, that contradicts your "common sense."

Feel free to share the research. I’d like to read it.

There is a LOT of great research on this, but here’s one of my favorite summaries. It breaks down the positive benefits both for kids from lower-income backgrounds and those from the higher-resourced communities:

https://tcf.org/content/facts/the-benefits-of-socioeconomically-and-racially-integrated-schools-and-classrooms/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i really dont understand the "save wootton" people. the "school" will still exist with the teachers and the programs. why do you cling to a crumbling building?

Because it isn't about the school or the education. It is about the property values.

That and the relatively normal human instinct to reflexively reject change of any kind. Which, while understandable, is not persuasive.

Their property values will not change over school boundaries. It may change because of what is going on in the country right now.

Not only will the property values change, but a huge draw for the county will be gone. High income earners that are looking to put down roots are looking at the ratio of home price to academic cluster success. Wootton clears that hurdle for many, and the resulting Crown will not. Taylor has no skin in the game and will not feel the effects, but the County will.

1. There is no (research-backed) reason to believe that Wootton at Crown will be meaningfully less "successful" than the current location.
2. The county will not lose high income earners because of this move. There are plenty of other locations within the county with the same "ratio" that you describe.

Of course there isn’t any Crown specific research. It’s not open yet. But it’s common sense that there will be a dip (potentially significant, depending on the past performance of the non-Wootton kids who get to go to Crown). Wootton at Crown may recover in 5-10 years, but the damage will be done.

Yes, the county will lose high income earners, likely to Virginia, as there will be one less “W” school.

There is research, cited multiple times on this thread, that contradicts your "common sense."

Feel free to share the research. I’d like to read it.

There is a LOT of great research on this, but here’s one of my favorite summaries. It breaks down the positive benefits both for kids from lower-income backgrounds and those from the higher-resourced communities:

https://tcf.org/content/facts/the-benefits-of-socioeconomically-and-racially-integrated-schools-and-classrooms/

And if you’re interested in MCPS related outcomes specifically, here’s an additional study, though it is older: https://www.rand.org/pubs/external_publications/EP201000161.html

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i really dont understand the "save wootton" people. the "school" will still exist with the teachers and the programs. why do you cling to a crumbling building?

Because it isn't about the school or the education. It is about the property values.

That and the relatively normal human instinct to reflexively reject change of any kind. Which, while understandable, is not persuasive.

Their property values will not change over school boundaries. It may change because of what is going on in the country right now.

Not only will the property values change, but a huge draw for the county will be gone. High income earners that are looking to put down roots are looking at the ratio of home price to academic cluster success. Wootton clears that hurdle for many, and the resulting Crown will not. Taylor has no skin in the game and will not feel the effects, but the County will.

1. There is no (research-backed) reason to believe that Wootton at Crown will be meaningfully less "successful" than the current location.
2. The county will not lose high income earners because of this move. There are plenty of other locations within the county with the same "ratio" that you describe.

Of course there isn’t any Crown specific research. It’s not open yet. But it’s common sense that there will be a dip (potentially significant, depending on the past performance of the non-Wootton kids who get to go to Crown). Wootton at Crown may recover in 5-10 years, but the damage will be done.

Yes, the county will lose high income earners, likely to Virginia, as there will be one less “W” school.

There is research, cited multiple times on this thread, that contradicts your "common sense."

Feel free to share the research. I’d like to read it.

There is a LOT of great research on this, but here’s one of my favorite summaries. It breaks down the positive benefits both for kids from lower-income backgrounds and those from the higher-resourced communities:

https://tcf.org/content/report/how-racially-diverse-schools-and-classrooms-can-benefit-all-students/

So DEI, got it. Did you ever stop to consider that Wootton is quite diverse already? And that there are low income students attending Wootton already?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i really dont understand the "save wootton" people. the "school" will still exist with the teachers and the programs. why do you cling to a crumbling building?

Because it isn't about the school or the education. It is about the property values.

That and the relatively normal human instinct to reflexively reject change of any kind. Which, while understandable, is not persuasive.

Their property values will not change over school boundaries. It may change because of what is going on in the country right now.

Not only will the property values change, but a huge draw for the county will be gone. High income earners that are looking to put down roots are looking at the ratio of home price to academic cluster success. Wootton clears that hurdle for many, and the resulting Crown will not. Taylor has no skin in the game and will not feel the effects, but the County will.

1. There is no (research-backed) reason to believe that Wootton at Crown will be meaningfully less "successful" than the current location.
2. The county will not lose high income earners because of this move. There are plenty of other locations within the county with the same "ratio" that you describe.

Of course there isn’t any Crown specific research. It’s not open yet. But it’s common sense that there will be a dip (potentially significant, depending on the past performance of the non-Wootton kids who get to go to Crown). Wootton at Crown may recover in 5-10 years, but the damage will be done.

Yes, the county will lose high income earners, likely to Virginia, as there will be one less “W” school.

There is research, cited multiple times on this thread, that contradicts your "common sense."

Feel free to share the research. I’d like to read it.

There is a LOT of great research on this, but here’s one of my favorite summaries. It breaks down the positive benefits both for kids from lower-income backgrounds and those from the higher-resourced communities:

https://tcf.org/content/report/how-racially-diverse-schools-and-classrooms-can-benefit-all-students/

So DEI, got it. Did you ever stop to consider that Wootton is quite diverse already? And that there are low income students attending Wootton already?

Yes! That’s part of why we’re saying that it’s not common sense that “there will be a dip (potentially significant, depending on the past performance of the non-Wootton kids who get to go to Crown).” The rigorous research contradicts that and, as you’ve cleverly highlighted, the less rigorous but still valid case study of the 14% of kids receiving FARMs contradicts that as well.