1) I'm not PP but I am a person with half a brain who understands they meant the royal we, as in America. America doesn't doesn't send people to the foreign gulag. At least we haven't for the last 249 years of our history. We have a lot of shameful things in our past but this is one of the most shameful. Japanese internment and Trail of Tears shameful. 2) Apparently you don't have even the half a brain I do. "America sends people to a foreign country we know will put them in the gulag" = "America put them in the gulag." We don't get to play dumb, we don't get to pretend it's ok because there was 0.001 degree of separation, we are right this minute willingly and knowingly sending people from American soil to the gulag. You can agree with the action (in which case history will judge you exactly the way it did all other enablers of atrocities) but you can't pretend that it's not happening. |
He’s doing fine and may well decide he wants to stay in El Salvador at this point. He’s already been moved to a nicer facility.
“Kilmar Abrego Garcia reported to Sen. Chris Van Hollen during a meeting in El Salvador that he was moved nine days ago from that country's Terrorism Confinement Center, or CECOT, to another facility with better conditions.” https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/04/18/senator-van-hollen-kilmar-abrego-garcia-deported/83155989007/ |
This case is now over. |
"The guy who America knowingly sent to a torture camp got moved to a nicer prison solely because a Senator personally got involved with his case, therefore it's fine to keep taking untold numbers of human beings off of American soil and knowingly sending them to torture camps." It's unbelievable and sickening that people who call themselves Americans think things like this. I used to think our country was better than this but these past few years have proved we are rotten to the core with the kinds of people who would have willingly and joyfully sent their Jewish neighbors to concentration camps in 1940s Germany. It's not OK that these torture camps exist in El Salvador. It's not OK that America is sending anyone to torture camps in El Salvador. The fact that one single person escaped the torture camp in El Salvador does not make it OK that they exist and we're sending people there. We used to fight wars against countries with torture camps. We called the people who fought against them the "greatest generation" for a reason. If you're not against sending ANYONE from the US to a torture camp you're against America. |
Yes. As a reminder, Germany built all of its first and most of its total concentration camps (until midway through the war) outside of Germany. This precedent suggests further that any of us, once kidnapped by law enforcement and having left the country, are allowed any treatment legally. Please explain how forcing a third generation American from Nebraska with no due process into a jet owned by Venezuelan and then the Venezuelans shoving him out of the plan over international waters, and the US paying them to do this would be against the law if the treatment of Kilgore Garcia is legal. |
There is legal and there is illegal but can't be fixed. Or at least the courts cannot order a fix. |
You do realize America has its own torture camp called Guantanamo Bay where there are men who have been TORTURED and held WITHOUT TRIAL for over TWENTY YEARS. They are still there right now and can be held indefinitely according to the United States. The US held a 15 year old CANADIAN boy who was shot two times in the back in Guantanamo Bay for TEN years. |
While it doesn’t make it right, those people were not on US soil, and didn’t have rights. |
With all the plain clothes agents with faces covered swiping people off the street...how easy would it be to to kidnap someone right now ..men can snatch women off the street and say they are ICE and boom. Got themselves a slave never to be seen again. |
This is definitely happening https://english.elpais.com/usa/2025-04-10/cases-of-civilians-posing-as-ice-agents-to-detain-migrants-are-on-the-rise.html |
The Supreme Court literally paused Alien Enemies Act deportations over night, so even they are concerned about it at this point. |
So what's the solution? Just give up and let Trump run rampant until there is a sufficient change in Congress to permit impeachment? If this Constitutional issue just gets ignored with no remedy, ALL inconvenient Constitutional protections evaporate. Do yo want that? Unless this is stamped down now, not the Trump agenda but the petulent disregard for federal law and the Constitution, it will only stop if someone important is tragically caught up in one of the assaults and dies or is incarcerated. |
They aren't pausing anything. They wll be rightly ignored. |
Wow well there is a new nightmare....so many nightmares right now. |
You should probably move some where else. You don’t sound American at all. |