NVA/Loudoun to MLS Next

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL won't put up with that technicality. yes LS and NVA are two separate entities but ECNL wont care.

So ECNL will keep this hardline stance even if it means their eventual demise? Maybe it’s how they save face and admit the boys’ side is lost.

If you think ECNL is in demise because NVA goes GA you are delusional. Other clubs will not have their girls be a sacrificial lamb for the boys. NVA may be the one exception…there will be a mass exodus of girls from NVA to the other ECNL clubs….

The boys are basically sacrificial lambs for the girls at ECNL clubs. The boys side has more money involved. It’s a logical conclusion.

the rev impact to a club for boys ECNL vs MSLnext is a wash. However GA vs ECNL will be a big impact. Clubs with ECNL will see a surge if loudoun is dumb enough to do this. In the big picture is LS is trying to mitigate competition from other clubs within footprint.

There is zero revenue impact if girls go ECNL to GA. Zero. The team fees and roster size will be the same. It might be different set of players but that does not matter as long as the rosters are full. A club the size of Loudoun Soccer will never have a problem filling up their rosters.

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Which part is incorrect? You don’t think LS would fill all their rosters if they were GA, or you don’t think the player costs would be the same? If both of those hold it’s simply math. No revenue impact

incorrect. It’s a snowball effect. Older teams will suffer first as talent will leaves. Which then hurts the clubs rep. Which then hurts roster numbers to form additional teams. And they become a valor.

You wishing for something doesn’t making it more likely to happen. LS has at least 5 travel teams at every age group. That’s a lot of paying customers. Not to mention the thousands of rec players and access to the fields. Valor has never been anywhere near the size of LS which has been doing this for 50 years through every new league change over and over.

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL won't put up with that technicality. yes LS and NVA are two separate entities but ECNL wont care.

So ECNL will keep this hardline stance even if it means their eventual demise? Maybe it’s how they save face and admit the boys’ side is lost.

If you think ECNL is in demise because NVA goes GA you are delusional. Other clubs will not have their girls be a sacrificial lamb for the boys. NVA may be the one exception…there will be a mass exodus of girls from NVA to the other ECNL clubs….

The boys are basically sacrificial lambs for the girls at ECNL clubs. The boys side has more money involved. It’s a logical conclusion.

the rev impact to a club for boys ECNL vs MSLnext is a wash. However GA vs ECNL will be a big impact. Clubs with ECNL will see a surge if loudoun is dumb enough to do this. In the big picture is LS is trying to mitigate competition from other clubs within footprint.

There is zero revenue impact if girls go ECNL to GA. Zero. The team fees and roster size will be the same. It might be different set of players but that does not matter as long as the rosters are full. A club the size of Loudoun Soccer will never have a problem filling up their rosters.

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Which part is incorrect? You don’t think LS would fill all their rosters if they were GA, or you don’t think the player costs would be the same? If both of those hold it’s simply math. No revenue impact

incorrect. It’s a snowball effect. Older teams will suffer first as talent will leaves. Which then hurts the clubs rep. Which then hurts roster numbers to form additional teams. And they become a valor.

You wishing for something doesn’t making it more likely to happen. LS has at least 5 travel teams at every age group. That’s a lot of paying customers. Not to mention the thousands of rec players and access to the fields. Valor has never been anywhere near the size of LS which has been doing this for 50 years through every new league change over and over.

not wishing.. it will happen

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NVA 1-0 VRSC

why would NVA girls move to VRSC? Delusional is an understatement. If NVA goes MLS next and have to remove ECNL those girls are flying to FVU, VDA or ARLINGTON before voluntarily demoting themselves to Rev

Yep. Or just stay with NVA/LS at that point before going to endure the 45 min parking lot wait.
A) still don’t think it will happen.
B) plenty of girls will stay if it does happen

can say my daughter and her teamates that carry her team will scatter. Some already are making moves. Hope they don’t get it. Will be a sad end of a season

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NVA 1-0 VRSC

why would NVA girls move to VRSC? Delusional is an understatement. If NVA goes MLS next and have to remove ECNL those girls are flying to FVU, VDA or ARLINGTON before voluntarily demoting themselves to Rev

Yep. Or just stay with NVA/LS at that point before going to endure the 45 min parking lot wait.
A) still don’t think it will happen.
B) plenty of girls will stay if it does happen

can say my daughter and her teamates that carry her team will scatter. Some already are making moves. Hope they don’t get it. Will be a sad end of a season

What age group?

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Anonymous wrote:08s at VDA Showcase

NVA 1-0 VRSC

why would NVA girls move to VRSC? Delusional is an understatement. If NVA goes MLS next and have to remove ECNL those girls are flying to FVU, VDA or ARLINGTON before voluntarily demoting themselves to Rev

Yep. Or just stay with NVA/LS at that point before going to endure the 45 min parking lot wait.
A) still don’t think it will happen.
B) plenty of girls will stay if it does happen

can say my daughter and her teamates that carry her team will scatter. Some already are making moves. Hope they don’t get it. Will be a sad end of a season

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Anonymous wrote:08s at VDA Showcase

NVA 1-0 VRSC

why would NVA girls move to VRSC? Delusional is an understatement. If NVA goes MLS next and have to remove ECNL those girls are flying to FVU, VDA or ARLINGTON before voluntarily demoting themselves to Rev

Yep. Or just stay with NVA/LS at that point before going to endure the 45 min parking lot wait.
A) still don’t think it will happen.
B) plenty of girls will stay if it does happen

can say my daughter and her teamates that carry her team will scatter. Some already are making moves. Hope they don’t get it. Will be a sad end of a season

What age group?

NVM - dumb question.

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL won't put up with that technicality. yes LS and NVA are two separate entities but ECNL wont care.

So ECNL will keep this hardline stance even if it means their eventual demise? Maybe it’s how they save face and admit the boys’ side is lost.

If you think ECNL is in demise because NVA goes GA you are delusional. Other clubs will not have their girls be a sacrificial lamb for the boys. NVA may be the one exception…there will be a mass exodus of girls from NVA to the other ECNL clubs….

The boys are basically sacrificial lambs for the girls at ECNL clubs. The boys side has more money involved. It’s a logical conclusion.

the rev impact to a club for boys ECNL vs MSLnext is a wash. However GA vs ECNL will be a big impact. Clubs with ECNL will see a surge if loudoun is dumb enough to do this. In the big picture is LS is trying to mitigate competition from other clubs within footprint.

There is zero revenue impact if girls go ECNL to GA. Zero. The team fees and roster size will be the same. It might be different set of players but that does not matter as long as the rosters are full. A club the size of Loudoun Soccer will never have a problem filling up their rosters.

incorrect

Which part is incorrect? You don’t think LS would fill all their rosters if they were GA, or you don’t think the player costs would be the same? If both of those hold it’s simply math. No revenue impact

incorrect. It’s a snowball effect. Older teams will suffer first as talent will leaves. Which then hurts the clubs rep. Which then hurts roster numbers to form additional teams. And they become a valor.

You wishing for something doesn’t making it more likely to happen. LS has at least 5 travel teams at every age group. That’s a lot of paying customers. Not to mention the thousands of rec players and access to the fields. Valor has never been anywhere near the size of LS which has been doing this for 50 years through every new league change over and over.

not wishing.. it will happen

lol Valor is a dumpster fire. An off-brand Loudoun, and that’s not saying much.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:08s at VDA Showcase

NVA 1-0 VRSC

why would NVA girls move to VRSC? Delusional is an understatement. If NVA goes MLS next and have to remove ECNL those girls are flying to FVU, VDA or ARLINGTON before voluntarily demoting themselves to Rev

Yep. Or just stay with NVA/LS at that point before going to endure the 45 min parking lot wait.
A) still don’t think it will happen.
B) plenty of girls will stay if it does happen

can say my daughter and her teamates that carry her team will scatter. Some already are making moves. Hope they don’t get it. Will be a sad end of a season

Explains why I saw some some NVA backpacks at our practices last week.

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Anonymous wrote:08s at VDA Showcase

NVA 1-0 VRSC

why would NVA girls move to VRSC? Delusional is an understatement. If NVA goes MLS next and have to remove ECNL those girls are flying to FVU, VDA or ARLINGTON before voluntarily demoting themselves to Rev

Yep. Or just stay with NVA/LS at that point before going to endure the 45 min parking lot wait.
A) still don’t think it will happen.
B) plenty of girls will stay if it does happen

can say my daughter and her teamates that carry her team will scatter. Some already are making moves. Hope they don’t get it. Will be a sad end of a season

Explains why I saw some some NVA backpacks at our practices last week.

Where?

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what happened with CCL?

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Anonymous wrote:what happened with CCL?

you're 5 years behind schedule. It died maybe even before that. But it was a really good league until ECNL took over.

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If vrsc grows over time, there could be enough critical mass for Loudoun to have troubles filling all their 6 teams per age group. If vrsc had eventually received mls next, that would have happened virtually overnight. This was Loudoun blocking that even at the cost of the girls side.

I heard talk of LS blocking ECNL for VRSC but I don't see how they could block MLSN when they aren't involved with MLSN.

That's VRSC default excuse whenever they don't get something they promised the parents. It's always because of Loudoun the boogeyman.

I wouldn't rule out those rumors. I would attempt to do the same if I ran LS to maintain a monopoly on ECNL in Loudoun county.

Loudoun doesn't have to block anyone from ECNL. ECNL has been reducing teams in NOVA few years by forcing alliances. They realize they are oversaturated for the market. They aren't going to turn around and add another ECNL team to the market.

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They might have to make some additions, since Mclean and LS might move to GA.

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No one is leaving ECNL. Quit with the BS

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If vrsc grows over time, there could be enough critical mass for Loudoun to have troubles filling all their 6 teams per age group. If vrsc had eventually received mls next, that would have happened virtually overnight. This was Loudoun blocking that even at the cost of the girls side.

I heard talk of LS blocking ECNL for VRSC but I don't see how they could block MLSN when they aren't involved with MLSN.

That's VRSC default excuse whenever they don't get something they promised the parents. It's always because of Loudoun the boogeyman.

I wouldn't rule out those rumors. I would attempt to do the same if I ran LS to maintain a monopoly on ECNL in Loudoun county.

Loudoun doesn't have to block anyone from ECNL. ECNL has been reducing teams in NOVA few years by forcing alliances. They realize they are oversaturated for the market. They aren't going to turn around and add another ECNL team to the market.

Why would GA put another team right next door to the existing team? I still think VRSC is getting MLSnext. Unlike girls, boys will move teams to be in MLSnext, regardless of their reputation.