Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering

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Anonymous wrote:What happened is not "gerrymandering"

The people who love closest to Wisconsin Avenue will now be part of an ANC that is focused on Wisconsin Avenue. That is the opposite of gerrymadering.

It never made sense that an ANC Commissioenr who lives across the street from the Cathedral had oversight of Connecticut Avenue.

The change fixes that to a degree. Now, the people who live closest to each corridor will have a say in what happens on those corridors. This is a good thing.

Yes, but a person who lives directly across 34th Street from John Eaton and sends children there now has no say in what happens at John Eaton (or NCRC or Cleveland Park Club). Ditto for someone on the other side of 34th wrt Macomb Playground (or the Cathedral Schools or the Hearst pool). A neighborhood is more than its commercial boundaries.

Don’t worry. Cleveland Park Smart Growth and it’s partner Ward 3 Vision (Redistricting Tsar Ward is on the boards of both) will next turn their attention to making 34th Street a commercial, denser mixed-use corridor.

Good. I wish there was at least a corner store nearby. Not sure why people get a veto on what their neighbor does with their own property. If they want to build a few apartments, why shouldn't they? It is their land.

Have you tried walking a few blocks to Wisconsin or Connecticut? There already are tons of stores nearby.

It’s crazy how lazy this person is that they seem incapable of walking 2 blocks. It’s also clear that they don’t live nearby or else they would understand the public health nuisance issue first hand. There is already a massive rat problem and attracting more rats closer to people homes just so one person doesn’t have to walk 2 blocks is bonkers.

Also, DC is “over stored”. If your desired goal is to keep the Wisconsin corridor vibrant, adding retail on 34th would be anathema.

Over-stored? DC has noticeably fewer retail establishments than any other city I've lived in. There are a few tightly defined strips that have retail, and that's it. I assume it's a legacy of the plan for the city/zoning.

It's amazing how un-worldly the NIMBY types are. Some of them seem like they've never left their own block.

You were saying?

[Anonymous]

There are 63,000 supermarkets in the US, roughly one for every 5,000 people. There are 16 supermarkets in Ward 3 and 84,000 people, right around the national average.

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Anonymous wrote:What happened is not "gerrymandering"

The people who love closest to Wisconsin Avenue will now be part of an ANC that is focused on Wisconsin Avenue. That is the opposite of gerrymadering.

It never made sense that an ANC Commissioenr who lives across the street from the Cathedral had oversight of Connecticut Avenue.

The change fixes that to a degree. Now, the people who live closest to each corridor will have a say in what happens on those corridors. This is a good thing.

Yes, but a person who lives directly across 34th Street from John Eaton and sends children there now has no say in what happens at John Eaton (or NCRC or Cleveland Park Club). Ditto for someone on the other side of 34th wrt Macomb Playground (or the Cathedral Schools or the Hearst pool). A neighborhood is more than its commercial boundaries.

Don’t worry. Cleveland Park Smart Growth and it’s partner Ward 3 Vision (Redistricting Tsar Ward is on the boards of both) will next turn their attention to making 34th Street a commercial, denser mixed-use corridor.

Good. I wish there was at least a corner store nearby. Not sure why people get a veto on what their neighbor does with their own property. If they want to build a few apartments, why shouldn't they? It is their land.

Have you tried walking a few blocks to Wisconsin or Connecticut? There already are tons of stores nearby.

It’s crazy how lazy this person is that they seem incapable of walking 2 blocks. It’s also clear that they don’t live nearby or else they would understand the public health nuisance issue first hand. There is already a massive rat problem and attracting more rats closer to people homes just so one person doesn’t have to walk 2 blocks is bonkers.

Also, DC is “over stored”. If your desired goal is to keep the Wisconsin corridor vibrant, adding retail on 34th would be anathema.

Over-stored? DC has noticeably fewer retail establishments than any other city I've lived in. There are a few tightly defined strips that have retail, and that's it. I assume it's a legacy of the plan for the city/zoning.

It's amazing how un-worldly the NIMBY types are. Some of them seem like they've never left their own block.

You were saying?

The Smart Growth lobby still asserts that Ward 3 is some kind of food desert.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What happened is not "gerrymandering"

The people who love closest to Wisconsin Avenue will now be part of an ANC that is focused on Wisconsin Avenue. That is the opposite of gerrymadering.

It never made sense that an ANC Commissioenr who lives across the street from the Cathedral had oversight of Connecticut Avenue.

The change fixes that to a degree. Now, the people who live closest to each corridor will have a say in what happens on those corridors. This is a good thing.

Yes, but a person who lives directly across 34th Street from John Eaton and sends children there now has no say in what happens at John Eaton (or NCRC or Cleveland Park Club). Ditto for someone on the other side of 34th wrt Macomb Playground (or the Cathedral Schools or the Hearst pool). A neighborhood is more than its commercial boundaries.

Don’t worry. Cleveland Park Smart Growth and it’s partner Ward 3 Vision (Redistricting Tsar Ward is on the boards of both) will next turn their attention to making 34th Street a commercial, denser mixed-use corridor.

Good. I wish there was at least a corner store nearby. Not sure why people get a veto on what their neighbor does with their own property. If they want to build a few apartments, why shouldn't they? It is their land.

Have you tried walking a few blocks to Wisconsin or Connecticut? There already are tons of stores nearby.

It’s crazy how lazy this person is that they seem incapable of walking 2 blocks. It’s also clear that they don’t live nearby or else they would understand the public health nuisance issue first hand. There is already a massive rat problem and attracting more rats closer to people homes just so one person doesn’t have to walk 2 blocks is bonkers.

Also, DC is “over stored”. If your desired goal is to keep the Wisconsin corridor vibrant, adding retail on 34th would be anathema.

Over-stored? DC has noticeably fewer retail establishments than any other city I've lived in. There are a few tightly defined strips that have retail, and that's it. I assume it's a legacy of the plan for the city/zoning.

It’s a legacy of greedy developers wanting to invest where they can make the highest return.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are 63,000 supermarkets in the US, roughly one for every 5,000 people. There are 16 supermarkets in Ward 3 and 84,000 people, right around the national average.

Ward 3 has far more than any other ward. The rest of the city is quite underserved.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What happened is not "gerrymandering"

The people who love closest to Wisconsin Avenue will now be part of an ANC that is focused on Wisconsin Avenue. That is the opposite of gerrymadering.

It never made sense that an ANC Commissioenr who lives across the street from the Cathedral had oversight of Connecticut Avenue.

The change fixes that to a degree. Now, the people who live closest to each corridor will have a say in what happens on those corridors. This is a good thing.

Yes, but a person who lives directly across 34th Street from John Eaton and sends children there now has no say in what happens at John Eaton (or NCRC or Cleveland Park Club). Ditto for someone on the other side of 34th wrt Macomb Playground (or the Cathedral Schools or the Hearst pool). A neighborhood is more than its commercial boundaries.

Don’t worry. Cleveland Park Smart Growth and it’s partner Ward 3 Vision (Redistricting Tsar Ward is on the boards of both) will next turn their attention to making 34th Street a commercial, denser mixed-use corridor.

Good. I wish there was at least a corner store nearby. Not sure why people get a veto on what their neighbor does with their own property. If they want to build a few apartments, why shouldn't they? It is their land.

Have you tried walking a few blocks to Wisconsin or Connecticut? There already are tons of stores nearby.

It’s crazy how lazy this person is that they seem incapable of walking 2 blocks. It’s also clear that they don’t live nearby or else they would understand the public health nuisance issue first hand. There is already a massive rat problem and attracting more rats closer to people homes just so one person doesn’t have to walk 2 blocks is bonkers.

Also, DC is “over stored”. If your desired goal is to keep the Wisconsin corridor vibrant, adding retail on 34th would be anathema.

There’s likely to be a retail shake out once Wegmans opens. For example, Wegmans’ retail offerings are so extensive that they can outcompete Giant on quality and even price for some items. Wegmans and City Ridge are much better designed than Cathedral Commons a few blocks to the south, and people will want to spend time at City Ridge. Giant will struggle and it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s closed at that location in 5 years. It would be a shame if it became a Dollar General or Planet Fitness, but it’s hard to see many customers sticking with Giant when Wegmans is so close by.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here are the maps -
https://www.uptownurbanist.com/blog/council-approves-ward-3-anc-map

Those are not the officially approved maps. Where’s a link to the DC government source?

This is from Bob Ward's blog and from previous posts on this board it seems like he alone draws the maps.

It’s quite outrageous and sad to watch what is happening in Ukraine and realize that only four years ago Ward was working to bring a Russian puppet politician (ex-Pres. Viktor Yanukovych) back to power, initially as head of a Russian Donbas “autonomous republic.” (Now, that’s a split.) And Ward somehow was made Ward 3’s Mr. Redistricting?!?

What?! How morally corrupt. I’m so tired of his soliloquies on the local list serves. Comes across as a demagogue with a thin veneer of “we know best for the people”. Where’s the investigative journalism? Let’s unmask the demimonde running in these elections so people have a fair choice. And make room for clean candidates

Lol, are you are the same crazy that posts on every listserver about this? We were talking about this person with our neighbors and we all decided to vote for whoever this person hated the most. So we all became duncan voters, since why not?

“Donbas Bob” Ward is campaigning for Beau Finley not Duncan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What happened is not "gerrymandering"

The people who love closest to Wisconsin Avenue will now be part of an ANC that is focused on Wisconsin Avenue. That is the opposite of gerrymadering.

It never made sense that an ANC Commissioenr who lives across the street from the Cathedral had oversight of Connecticut Avenue.

The change fixes that to a degree. Now, the people who live closest to each corridor will have a say in what happens on those corridors. This is a good thing.

Yes, but a person who lives directly across 34th Street from John Eaton and sends children there now has no say in what happens at John Eaton (or NCRC or Cleveland Park Club). Ditto for someone on the other side of 34th wrt Macomb Playground (or the Cathedral Schools or the Hearst pool). A neighborhood is more than its commercial boundaries.

Don’t worry. Cleveland Park Smart Growth and it’s partner Ward 3 Vision (Redistricting Tsar Ward is on the boards of both) will next turn their attention to making 34th Street a commercial, denser mixed-use corridor.

Good. I wish there was at least a corner store nearby. Not sure why people get a veto on what their neighbor does with their own property. If they want to build a few apartments, why shouldn't they? It is their land.

Have you tried walking a few blocks to Wisconsin or Connecticut? There already are tons of stores nearby.

It’s crazy how lazy this person is that they seem incapable of walking 2 blocks. It’s also clear that they don’t live nearby or else they would understand the public health nuisance issue first hand. There is already a massive rat problem and attracting more rats closer to people homes just so one person doesn’t have to walk 2 blocks is bonkers.

Also, DC is “over stored”. If your desired goal is to keep the Wisconsin corridor vibrant, adding retail on 34th would be anathema.

There’s likely to be a retail shake out once Wegmans opens. For example, Wegmans’ retail offerings are so extensive that they can outcompete Giant on quality and even price for some items. Wegmans and City Ridge are much better designed than Cathedral Commons a few blocks to the south, and people will want to spend time at City Ridge. Giant will struggle and it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s closed at that location in 5 years. It would be a shame if it became a Dollar General or Planet Fitness, but it’s hard to see many customers sticking with Giant when Wegmans is so close by.

Man, they should've built 10 stories of apartments on top of the Giant when they had the chance. I wonder why they didn't?

Luckily, Wegmans/City Ridge didn't make that mistake and didn't care about the complaints of nearby homeowners.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are the maps -
https://www.uptownurbanist.com/blog/council-approves-ward-3-anc-map

Those are not the officially approved maps. Where’s a link to the DC government source?

This is from Bob Ward's blog and from previous posts on this board it seems like he alone draws the maps.

It’s quite outrageous and sad to watch what is happening in Ukraine and realize that only four years ago Ward was working to bring a Russian puppet politician (ex-Pres. Viktor Yanukovych) back to power, initially as head of a Russian Donbas “autonomous republic.” (Now, that’s a split.) And Ward somehow was made Ward 3’s Mr. Redistricting?!?

What?! How morally corrupt. I’m so tired of his soliloquies on the local list serves. Comes across as a demagogue with a thin veneer of “we know best for the people”. Where’s the investigative journalism? Let’s unmask the demimonde running in these elections so people have a fair choice. And make room for clean candidates

Lol, are you are the same crazy that posts on every listserver about this? We were talking about this person with our neighbors and we all decided to vote for whoever this person hated the most. So we all became duncan voters, since why not?

“Donbas Bob” Ward is campaigning for Beau Finley not Duncan.

Oh wait, there are two of you? There is a nut from foxhall that keeps screaming about random shit on the Glover Park listserv. Is there another one of you? Dammit, maybe I should've voted for that finley person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are 63,000 supermarkets in the US, roughly one for every 5,000 people. There are 16 supermarkets in Ward 3 and 84,000 people, right around the national average.

The incredible lengths to prove a point that’s self evidently true is ridiculous. Is it just impossible that you cannot admit to being wrong about something or is it that you feel that you are on a crusade and facts are irrelevant? Either way it’s just bizarre and pretty funny too.

What you don’t understand is that the impediment to retail on 34th isn’t those evil Cleveland Park NIMBYs that you imagine yourself in battle with. You actually will need to overcome billion dollar developers and REITS who own the commercial properties on Wisconsin. Good luck with that. LOL.

[Anonymous]

Where can I find the mayoral candidates’ positions on the Ward 3 ANC redistricting?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What happened is not "gerrymandering"

The people who love closest to Wisconsin Avenue will now be part of an ANC that is focused on Wisconsin Avenue. That is the opposite of gerrymadering.

It never made sense that an ANC Commissioenr who lives across the street from the Cathedral had oversight of Connecticut Avenue.

The change fixes that to a degree. Now, the people who live closest to each corridor will have a say in what happens on those corridors. This is a good thing.

Yes, but a person who lives directly across 34th Street from John Eaton and sends children there now has no say in what happens at John Eaton (or NCRC or Cleveland Park Club). Ditto for someone on the other side of 34th wrt Macomb Playground (or the Cathedral Schools or the Hearst pool). A neighborhood is more than its commercial boundaries.

Don’t worry. Cleveland Park Smart Growth and it’s partner Ward 3 Vision (Redistricting Tsar Ward is on the boards of both) will next turn their attention to making 34th Street a commercial, denser mixed-use corridor.

Good. I wish there was at least a corner store nearby. Not sure why people get a veto on what their neighbor does with their own property. If they want to build a few apartments, why shouldn't they? It is their land.

Have you tried walking a few blocks to Wisconsin or Connecticut? There already are tons of stores nearby.

It’s crazy how lazy this person is that they seem incapable of walking 2 blocks. It’s also clear that they don’t live nearby or else they would understand the public health nuisance issue first hand. There is already a massive rat problem and attracting more rats closer to people homes just so one person doesn’t have to walk 2 blocks is bonkers.

Also, DC is “over stored”. If your desired goal is to keep the Wisconsin corridor vibrant, adding retail on 34th would be anathema.

There’s likely to be a retail shake out once Wegmans opens. For example, Wegmans’ retail offerings are so extensive that they can outcompete Giant on quality and even price for some items. Wegmans and City Ridge are much better designed than Cathedral Commons a few blocks to the south, and people will want to spend time at City Ridge. Giant will struggle and it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s closed at that location in 5 years. It would be a shame if it became a Dollar General or Planet Fitness, but it’s hard to see many customers sticking with Giant when Wegmans is so close by.

Man, they should've built 10 stories of apartments on top of the Giant when they had the chance. I wonder why they didn't?

Luckily, Wegmans/City Ridge didn't make that mistake and didn't care about the complaints of nearby homeowners.

Because NIMBYs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where can I find the mayoral candidates’ positions on the Ward 3 ANC redistricting?

Robert White and Trayon White both voted for the Silverman/Cheh proposal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What happened is not "gerrymandering"

The people who love closest to Wisconsin Avenue will now be part of an ANC that is focused on Wisconsin Avenue. That is the opposite of gerrymadering.

It never made sense that an ANC Commissioenr who lives across the street from the Cathedral had oversight of Connecticut Avenue.

The change fixes that to a degree. Now, the people who live closest to each corridor will have a say in what happens on those corridors. This is a good thing.

Yes, but a person who lives directly across 34th Street from John Eaton and sends children there now has no say in what happens at John Eaton (or NCRC or Cleveland Park Club). Ditto for someone on the other side of 34th wrt Macomb Playground (or the Cathedral Schools or the Hearst pool). A neighborhood is more than its commercial boundaries.

Don’t worry. Cleveland Park Smart Growth and it’s partner Ward 3 Vision (Redistricting Tsar Ward is on the boards of both) will next turn their attention to making 34th Street a commercial, denser mixed-use corridor.

Good. I wish there was at least a corner store nearby. Not sure why people get a veto on what their neighbor does with their own property. If they want to build a few apartments, why shouldn't they? It is their land.

Have you tried walking a few blocks to Wisconsin or Connecticut? There already are tons of stores nearby.

It’s crazy how lazy this person is that they seem incapable of walking 2 blocks. It’s also clear that they don’t live nearby or else they would understand the public health nuisance issue first hand. There is already a massive rat problem and attracting more rats closer to people homes just so one person doesn’t have to walk 2 blocks is bonkers.

Also, DC is “over stored”. If your desired goal is to keep the Wisconsin corridor vibrant, adding retail on 34th would be anathema.

There’s likely to be a retail shake out once Wegmans opens. For example, Wegmans’ retail offerings are so extensive that they can outcompete Giant on quality and even price for some items. Wegmans and City Ridge are much better designed than Cathedral Commons a few blocks to the south, and people will want to spend time at City Ridge. Giant will struggle and it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s closed at that location in 5 years. It would be a shame if it became a Dollar General or Planet Fitness, but it’s hard to see many customers sticking with Giant when Wegmans is so close by.

Man, they should've built 10 stories of apartments on top of the Giant when they had the chance. I wonder why they didn't?

Luckily, Wegmans/City Ridge didn't make that mistake and didn't care about the complaints of nearby homeowners.

It was a by-right project. The neighbors had no power to stop it.

[Anonymous]

The real opportunity is the Safeway in Georgetown/Glover Park. There are so many better and cheaper grocery stores very nearby, and that location would be perfect for a large apartment building overlooking the park.