Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The problem is they should have included the skyview boundary with the comprehensive review. Dr Reid , if you are reading this should be a comprehensive review of elementary through high school. Do it right , make true pyramids. Fix and back fill what you need. Move the Marshall high school island left during the comprehensive review to soulth lakes if needed, take the flint hill island and fix that area out of Madison into south lakes. Fix areas left out during the comprehensive review that can be addressed now that we have a new school. Make the boundary maps make sense please. Send us to schools near our homes and keep us together from elementary to high school when possible In true pyramids.

That ship has sailed. What they need to do now is set boundaries promptly for Skyview, and they’ve already defined the scope of that study to include five pyramids, not 24.

They should do whatever is sensible. Its all one school system so changes can effect other schools (and should, if it makes logical sense).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:cont. The difference now and in the past is that, while parents always get upset, this process has made parents think that they are in control. This has dragged out way too long.

The problem with FCPS immediately caving to lees corner, crossfield/rooted in oakton people and walney oaks is that means every area that doesn't want to move will reasonably expect similar treatment.

Lee's Corner was thrown for a loop. No one who is familiar with the area thinks you should take it out of Chantilly. It makes no sense at all.

I'm not sure they have caved yet to Crossfield. I totally think Crossfield should be at Skyview.

Walney Oaks goes to Cub Run. That should be a no brainer. While they are close to Chantilly, they are also quite close to Westfield.

That's the opinion of the people who live there, of course. It made logical sense to the consultants and it makes sense to me that neighborhood was one of the options to move. When you are trying to fill a school, and the school system has already told you some areas are off limits or should be de-emphasized, of course you look at the areas directly adjacent to the boundaries first. That's just common sense.

The point is now everyone knows crying to FCPS will get your neighborhood exempted. Who will be left to move?
The

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem is they should have included the skyview boundary with the comprehensive review. Dr Reid , if you are reading this should be a comprehensive review of elementary through high school. Do it right , make true pyramids. Fix and back fill what you need. Move the Marshall high school island left during the comprehensive review to soulth lakes if needed, take the flint hill island and fix that area out of Madison into south lakes. Fix areas left out during the comprehensive review that can be addressed now that we have a new school. Make the boundary maps make sense please. Send us to schools near our homes and keep us together from elementary to high school when possible In true pyramids.

That ship has sailed. What they need to do now is set boundaries promptly for Skyview, and they’ve already defined the scope of that study to include five pyramids, not 24.

They should do whatever is sensible. Its all one school system so changes can effect other schools (and should, if it makes logical sense).

It’s not sensible to authorize a limited boundary study, define its scope, and then ignore that in order to do something “sensible.” That’s just chaotic.

If they really needed to take a broader look at boundaries in order to set the boundaries for Skyview, the appropriate thing would be to formally expand the scope of the study, which would require a board vote.

That’s unlikely both because it’s unnecessary and it would rile people up.

No one has made a compelling case that they can’t set boundaries for Skyview and make any needed conforming changes by looking solely at schools within the Centreville, Chantilly, Oakton, South Lakes, and Westfield pyramids.

All some of you have done is suggest that, if your boundaries might change, you want them to re-open the county-wide review that wrapped up four months ago. That’s just an exercise in deflection and even with a superintendent as bad at execution as Reid it is highly unlikely.

[Anonymous]

Its one school system. There aren't special rules or boundaries on what they can consider.

They don't need the School Board to vote in order to consider all reasonable options. The consultants can present them in the materials and Reid can make her selection.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Its one school system. There aren't special rules or boundaries on what they can consider.

They don't need the School Board to vote in order to consider all reasonable options. The consultants can present them in the materials and Reid can make her selection.

So, you want to leave it up to Reid? No thanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:cont. The difference now and in the past is that, while parents always get upset, this process has made parents think that they are in control. This has dragged out way too long.

The problem with FCPS immediately caving to lees corner, crossfield/rooted in oakton people and walney oaks is that means every area that doesn't want to move will reasonably expect similar treatment.

Lee's Corner was thrown for a loop. No one who is familiar with the area thinks you should take it out of Chantilly. It makes no sense at all.

I'm not sure they have caved yet to Crossfield. I totally think Crossfield should be at Skyview.

Walney Oaks goes to Cub Run. That should be a no brainer. While they are close to Chantilly, they are also quite close to Westfield.

That's the opinion of the people who live there, of course. It made logical sense to the consultants and it makes sense to me that neighborhood was one of the options to move. When you are trying to fill a school, and the school system has already told you some areas are off limits or should be de-emphasized, of course you look at the areas directly adjacent to the boundaries first. That's just common sense.

The point is now everyone knows crying to FCPS will get your neighborhood exempted. Who will be left to move?
The

I agree and that makes sense to me that that area was offered up as an option. Why wouldn't it be? Whether it is smart to choose that option is up to Reid and the SB, but its pretty clear what the consultants' logic was on that ESPECIALLY if they were told by FCPS to tread carefully in some areas or that some areas should only be moved in one or zero options.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its one school system. There aren't special rules or boundaries on what they can consider.

They don't need the School Board to vote in order to consider all reasonable options. The consultants can present them in the materials and Reid can make her selection.

So, you want to leave it up to Reid? No thanks.

Isn't that the current procedure? The consultants present, Reid reviews, the SB discusses, and Reid decides.
The SB does NOT want recorded votes on this political hot potato.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Crossfield is trying to bully their way into Franklin MS now, displacing Navy families that have been going to Franklin for years.

NO. It's a handful of people. Most Crossfield families want to stay at Carson. Even the ones who want to stay at Oakton.

That’s dumb. Everyone else at Carson will be going to Skyview.

Crossfield should also be going to Skyview and therefore should stay at Carson. That’s why they want to move to Franklin MS. To ensure they go on to Oakton.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Its one school system. There aren't special rules or boundaries on what they can consider.

They don't need the School Board to vote in order to consider all reasonable options. The consultants can present them in the materials and Reid can make her selection.

You’re just talking out of your ass now. FCPS has specific policies in boundary adjustments and the School Board votes on the scope of boundary studies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its one school system. There aren't special rules or boundaries on what they can consider.

They don't need the School Board to vote in order to consider all reasonable options. The consultants can present them in the materials and Reid can make her selection.

So, you want to leave it up to Reid? No thanks.

Isn't that the current procedure? The consultants present, Reid reviews, the SB discusses, and Reid decides.
The SB does NOT want recorded votes on this political hot potato.

Reid decides on a recommendation, which can reflect her conversations behind the scenes with individual School Board members. Nothing happens without a School Board vote and often a staff recommendation is amended.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Crossfield is trying to bully their way into Franklin MS now, displacing Navy families that have been going to Franklin for years.

NO. It's a handful of people. Most Crossfield families want to stay at Carson. Even the ones who want to stay at Oakton.

All three scenarios have Crossfield moving to Franklin, including the one that sends them to Skyview. So they sure did listen to that “handful”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Crossfield is trying to bully their way into Franklin MS now, displacing Navy families that have been going to Franklin for years.

NO. It's a handful of people. Most Crossfield families want to stay at Carson. Even the ones who want to stay at Oakton.

All three scenarios have Crossfield moving to Franklin, including the one that sends them to Skyview. So they sure did listen to that “handful”.

Yep. How on earth did Crossfield manage to maneuver over to Franklin MS when they have been at Carson for years? Oh I know. Because they don’t want to go to Skyview so it makes sense for them not to go to Carson because everyone at Carson will feed into Skyview.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Its one school system. There aren't special rules or boundaries on what they can consider.

They don't need the School Board to vote in order to consider all reasonable options. The consultants can present them in the materials and Reid can make her selection.

I agree. It’s one school system. A new school was added giving us a chance to create better pyramids. Setting boundaries should always include looking at the entire system. That will reduce future issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its one school system. There aren't special rules or boundaries on what they can consider.

They don't need the School Board to vote in order to consider all reasonable options. The consultants can present them in the materials and Reid can make her selection.

I agree. It’s one school system. A new school was added giving us a chance to create better pyramids. Setting boundaries should always include looking at the entire system. That will reduce future issues.

💯 restricting to some arbitrary bubble is causing consultants more issues. Expand the boundaries a tad, and you’ll find a better, more well thought out plan. Zoom out, XYZ consulting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its one school system. There aren't special rules or boundaries on what they can consider.

They don't need the School Board to vote in order to consider all reasonable options. The consultants can present them in the materials and Reid can make her selection.

I agree. It’s one school system. A new school was added giving us a chance to create better pyramids. Setting boundaries should always include looking at the entire system. That will reduce future issues.

💯 restricting to some arbitrary bubble is causing consultants more issues. Expand the boundaries a tad, and you’ll find a better, more well thought out plan. Zoom out, XYZ consulting.

The school was purchased to relieve overcrowding in the area. As a plus, it is able to eliminate a particularly long commute to a school that is at maximum enrollment.

The area does not need to be expanded.

As far as setting up logical pyramids, when you have schools in close proximity to one another, that is going to be extremely difficult. For example, Oak Hill is equidistant to Franklin and Carson. Some kids are walkers to Franklin.
Lee's Corner is almost equidistant to Rocky Run and Franklin. Some of Lee's Corner are walkers to Franklin.

Fox Mill is at South Lakes, but I think there is not room for them at Hughes?

I don't know about the other areas of FCPS, but I can see that setting set pyramids is not easy. I think Carson is in the "Oakton" pyramid, and yet in boundary kids are divided among Westfield, South Lakes, and Oakton. And, the nearest high school is actually Chantilly--which has AAP kids at Carson.