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Agreed. Bravo to the family and best of luck to Harry and Meghan. That said, the deal is not a win for them. They did not want to give up royal status, their patronages, tours, balcony appearances etc. They wanted to remain fully royal (just not ‘senior’) which I guess to them means not doing the boring work and having a side hustle. On their website they mentioned ‘carving out a new progressive role WITHIN the institution’ (I forget the exact words). The Queen nixed that. She doesn’t formally strip them of the HRH but they are not allowed to use it, unlike Harry’s great uncle who was allowed to keep it. when he abdicated. Technically the deal is effective in the spring; would be interesting if the Royal Sussex website and IG account keeps existing. My bet is that name will disappear. They are ‘required’ to uphold the values of the monarchy - ie don’t do anything embarrassing to the family In exchange, they can pursue commercial deals, keep getting daddy’s money, and security. The Queen is smart though - the arrangement will be evaluated every year. This means that if Harry and Meghan don’t behave they get cut off even more.... or if Harry decides to be back in, he can come back. I think he will miss royal life - you can see he enjoys the tours and the engagements . All of these staged pap shots of ‘Meghan so happy and free’ is face saving on her part. She and Harry wanted to remain fully royals, and are no longer. |
| QEII rocks. Velvet glove over an iron fist. |
The title is the format used for people who were previously royal. It makes sense to use that format. Would be interesting to see what they come up in it’s place or if that sticks. |
Yup, the statement was a master class in diplomacy (it’s firm but crouched in positive terms). No doubt that she loves her family, but there are still rules that they must follow. |
And she makes it clear the institution comes first. |
I love her. |
I would! I would rather wait tables in Toronto than do my job here. And I actually love my job. I just hate the direction this country is taking. |
Off topic - but I kinda agree, the country is going away from its American roots and founding principles (libertarian principles) and heading towards Marxism. I sure as hell will not move to Canada though; they are even worse. |
The part where she thanks them for their service is particularly telling. It's how a CEO handles firing (say) a COO, or a board firing a Chairman. It sounds nice, but the message is clear - they are out. |
Exactly. |
| I still think QE2 is protecting Andrew more than anything. |
How? She already stripped him of all military appointments, took away every one of his patronages, and now it looks like he won’t even be getting security funded. If the US has a case against him besides he said she said they would have gone after him. However she’s still her son and she’s going to see the guy, go to church with him, and watch Netflix with him or whatever these people do for fun. |
| I applaud QE for taking away royal titles. |
I’m confused. In her statement she specifically says Harry will still be Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex. Meghan is still Duchess of Sussex. What exactly was taken away? |
The HRH styling (his/ her royal highness) - apparently this is a big deal in the UK |