FCPS paying for Critical Race Theory curriculum. To be implemented in a year

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Anonymous wrote:This survey is not a survey - they gave already decided and are going forward. If in doubt, ask your school board member. They won't refer to it that way but it is.. https://thefederalist.com/2021/05/07/fairfax-va-schools-pay-new-york-consultants-for-critical-race-theory-curricula/#.YJWTInnncqs.facebook

Oh yeah. As a teacher, I am asked to take those “surveys” all the time. They always phrase the questions in such a way that leadership can generate positive statistics for whatever agenda they want to push.

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Anonymous wrote:Some of us white people think that it's an important lesson for our children to realize their privilege. I'm glad FCPS is doing it. Better society = better America.

I agree, but I question the ability of FCPS folks to institute a curriculum that isn’t dogmatic and oversimplified. We need to provide more opportunities for productive discussions, create better platforms for listening to dissenting voices, and encourage the people of color in our community to *use* their voices. Instead, we will have white teachers shoving talking points down the throats of kids so that they know how to SOUND “not racist.” I am going to hate it.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's wonderful they're having an honest discussion about race and teaching this. The white-washed version I was taught was complete nonsense and I never bought it anyway.

Do you have kids? Do you think what students are taught now is white-washed and nonsense?

I'd like to understand as well. I am an immigrant (brown) and kids are first gen so whatever is taught in school is what we know (apart from using our common sense, google, books, etc.). I don't recall my kids being taught anything that would in any way imply that Whites are superior and they are inferior (stated or implied). What should the kids have been taught that is not being taught?

The kids are taught Thomas Jefferson is an American hero. A known pedofile, rapist, and slave owner who tortured his slaves. I’d say this is one example of white supremacy in the schools.

He is an American hero. Kids should definitely be taught that he is.

Not for his personal life but for his importance to the country. Any person who wants to throw out Thomas Jefferson is as nutty as those sovereign citizens who want to avoid paying taxes because they want to unAmericanize themselves.

See this I’d a classic example of white supremacy. A man who had a documented inappropriate relationship with 12 year old, owned many slaves, took teeth out the mouths his slaves when a white supremacist needed them, committed many other heinous acts against man kind, and just because he committed these acts against Black people, you aren’t going to let that get in the way of this man being a hero.
He makes R Kelly look like an angel.

And MLK Jr plagiarized his dissertation and speeches, was a womanizer who constantly cheated on Coretta, and physically abused women. That said, he’s still a hero, and so is Jefferson.

Now you are just looking to slander some Black man who was an internationally recognized icon with unsubstantiated claims. There is no proof he cheated on his wife and even if he did the allegation was that it was with consenting adults. Never heard anything about the plagiarism, but he was one of the greatest speakers of all time.

Why let facts get in the way of your opinion? King is a famous historical figure that has been under the microscope for decades, and all of this is well documented.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_King_Jr._authorship_issues

He wasn’t perfect, but he most definitely is still a hero… and so is Jefferson. Your prejudice doesn’t mean one gets a pass and not the other just because of the color of his skin.

This is the type of racist jargon that we are talking about. What crimes against humanity did MLK commit? Who’s human rights did he violate?

Does CRT get into degrees of how bad somebody's acts need to be before the hero title is stripped?

Who cares? A scumbag is a scumbag. Nothing TJ did excuses the fact that he was a rapist and pedofile.

Got it. So CRT will clearly be a waste of time. At least the requested answers will be so obvious, most kids will be able to sleepwalk through it.

Yes, I agree. The CRT efforts should be replaced with classes on White Supremacy (Racism). What it is, and how it works, because if you don’t understand White Supremacy, everything else will only confuse you"

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If this board is anything, it's proof that fcps really needs this curriculum.

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Anonymous wrote:This survey is not a survey - they gave already decided and are going forward. If in doubt, ask your school board member. They won't refer to it that way but it is.. https://thefederalist.com/2021/05/07/fairfax-va-schools-pay-new-york-consultants-for-critical-race-theory-curricula/#.YJWTInnncqs.facebook

Oh yeah. As a teacher, I am asked to take those “surveys” all the time. They always phrase the questions in such a way that leadership can generate positive statistics for whatever agenda they want to push.

Seriously, they must have a person whose job description is writing surveys guaranteed to produce only positive results. They deliberately don't ask the questions you really want to answer.

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I don’t know what the right solution is - but this is not it - it’s divisive and will only exacerbate problems.

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Anonymous wrote:If this board is anything, it's proof that fcps really needs this curriculum.

Un-heroing Jefferson isn't needed or "doing better" (from 'When we know better, we do better').

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's wonderful they're having an honest discussion about race and teaching this. The white-washed version I was taught was complete nonsense and I never bought it anyway.

Do you have kids? Do you think what students are taught now is white-washed and nonsense?

I'd like to understand as well. I am an immigrant (brown) and kids are first gen so whatever is taught in school is what we know (apart from using our common sense, google, books, etc.). I don't recall my kids being taught anything that would in any way imply that Whites are superior and they are inferior (stated or implied). What should the kids have been taught that is not being taught?

The kids are taught Thomas Jefferson is an American hero. A known pedofile, rapist, and slave owner who tortured his slaves. I’d say this is one example of white supremacy in the schools.

He is an American hero. Kids should definitely be taught that he is.

Not for his personal life but for his importance to the country. Any person who wants to throw out Thomas Jefferson is as nutty as those sovereign citizens who want to avoid paying taxes because they want to unAmericanize themselves.

See this I’d a classic example of white supremacy. A man who had a documented inappropriate relationship with 12 year old, owned many slaves, took teeth out the mouths his slaves when a white supremacist needed them, committed many other heinous acts against man kind, and just because he committed these acts against Black people, you aren’t going to let that get in the way of this man being a hero.
He makes R Kelly look like an angel.

And MLK Jr plagiarized his dissertation and speeches, was a womanizer who constantly cheated on Coretta, and physically abused women. That said, he’s still a hero, and so is Jefferson.

Now you are just looking to slander some Black man who was an internationally recognized icon with unsubstantiated claims. There is no proof he cheated on his wife and even if he did the allegation was that it was with consenting adults. Never heard anything about the plagiarism, but he was one of the greatest speakers of all time.

Why let facts get in the way of your opinion? King is a famous historical figure that has been under the microscope for decades, and all of this is well documented.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_King_Jr._authorship_issues

He wasn’t perfect, but he most definitely is still a hero… and so is Jefferson. Your prejudice doesn’t mean one gets a pass and not the other just because of the color of his skin.

This is the type of racist jargon that we are talking about. What crimes against humanity did MLK commit? Who’s human rights did he violate?

Does CRT get into degrees of how bad somebody's acts need to be before the hero title is stripped?

Who cares? A scumbag is a scumbag. Nothing TJ did excuses the fact that he was a rapist and pedofile.

Got it. So CRT will clearly be a waste of time. At least the requested answers will be so obvious, most kids will be able to sleepwalk through it.

Yes, I agree. The CRT efforts should be replaced with classes on White Supremacy (Racism). What it is, and how it works, because if you don’t understand White Supremacy, everything else will only confuse you"

Yes, you sound very confused.

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Anonymous wrote:If this board is anything, it's proof that fcps really needs this curriculum.

Un-heroing Jefferson isn't needed or "doing better" (from 'When we know better, we do better').

He can be presented in an unwhitewashed manner. More facts, less worship.

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Anonymous wrote:If this board is anything, it's proof that fcps really needs this curriculum.

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Anonymous wrote:If this board is anything, it's proof that fcps really needs this curriculum.

Un-heroing Jefferson isn't needed or "doing better" (from 'When we know better, we do better').

He can be presented in an unwhitewashed manner. More facts, less worship.

There isn't any CRT proponent on this thread who is capable of that.

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Anonymous wrote:If this board is anything, it's proof that fcps really needs this curriculum.

The curriculum is going to be divisive crap. Needed for a laugh I suppose.

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Anonymous wrote:If this board is anything, it's proof that fcps really needs this curriculum.

Un-heroing Jefferson isn't needed or "doing better" (from 'When we know better, we do better').

He can be presented in an unwhitewashed manner. More facts, less worship.

There isn't any CRT proponent on this thread who is capable of that.

Just present in as what he was, a white supremacist POS, slave owner, rapist, and pedophile. There isn’t a whole lot to that.

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Anonymous wrote:If this board is anything, it's proof that fcps really needs this curriculum.

The curriculum is going to be divisive crap. Needed for a laugh I suppose.

To y’all anything other than “Jesus and Money good! USA USA!” is divisive crap.

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Anonymous wrote:If this board is anything, it's proof that fcps really needs this curriculum.

The curriculum is going to be divisive crap. Needed for a laugh I suppose.

To y’all anything other than “Jesus and Money good! USA USA!” is divisive crap.

Will this be on the lesson plan?