Framing Britney Spears

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can anyone explain why she had people watching her undress? She stated the people living with her that also WORK FOR HER watch her very move and that’s what she is trying to escape. There is zero reason for that level of supervision over an adult that they are still forcing to work 7 days a week. Ridiculous.


She’s not well. She’s the same as she was the night the 5150 was called and she barricaded herself in the bedroom with the youngest son. She hasn’t been well in decades. Many of the free Britney supporters are not old enough to remember her behaviors during the meltdown. She was fully capable of talking but she was in the exact same manic state she’s in today.



This.
Let her have someone else overseeing her conservatorship.. But she shouldn't be responsible for herself, she is not a well woman, despite what her stans want to believe.


+2
Anonymous
Again, her dad is not her conservator!!!!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You mean the reality show she did in 2005 three years before the conservator ship?
When she was 24?

Can we talk about the age of onset of schizophrenia?


She was on X factor 2012 for one season.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Again, her dad is not her conservator!!!!


He is. He is conservator of her estate with co- Bessemer trust and he is conservator of her person.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You mean the reality show she did in 2005 three years before the conservator ship?
When she was 24?

Can we talk about the age of onset of schizophrenia?


She was on X factor 2012 for one season.


The conservatorship is to make sure she takes her meds every single day, not to limit or control her career.

All these posts about how this shows the problem with conservatorship and how it needs to be limited, to me it shows the benefits of conservatorship and how it should be expanded to cover more people who need it but don't currently get it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You mean the reality show she did in 2005 three years before the conservator ship?
When she was 24?

Can we talk about the age of onset of schizophrenia?


She was on X factor 2012 for one season.


The conservatorship is to make sure she takes her meds every single day, not to limit or control her career.

All these posts about how this shows the problem with conservatorship and how it needs to be limited, to me it shows the benefits of conservatorship and how it should be expanded to cover more people who need it but don't currently get it.


+1 remember when she was driving with a baby in her lap?
Anonymous
This is why the courts exist. It’s not up to us to decide based on bits of pieces of information, a lame documentary, and her Instagram dancing. We can speculate—it’s entertaining, I guess—but if you’re interested in helping people with mental illness, running around with #freebritney signs isn’t the way to do it. Go back to school and find some other way to help.

I’m pretty annoyed with all the celebs tweeting their support. Like they know her situation better than a team of qualified mental health professionals and the judge.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You mean the reality show she did in 2005 three years before the conservator ship?
When she was 24?

Can we talk about the age of onset of schizophrenia?


She was on X factor 2012 for one season.


The conservatorship is to make sure she takes her meds every single day, not to limit or control her career.

All these posts about how this shows the problem with conservatorship and how it needs to be limited, to me it shows the benefits of conservatorship and how it should be expanded to cover more people who need it but don't currently get it.


+1 remember when she was driving with a baby in her lap?


I fear she still does now what she did then, an ongoing version of rationalizing and minimization (when confronted on driving with the baby, in no safety seat, her response then was, "We're country!"). When confronted on almost dropping the baby on the sidewalk when she was carrying him with one arm, and a glass in the other, (not even saying it was alcohol) her response was that she was swamped by paparazzi not that she was holding him in securely. She is defensive so she has trouble taking responsibility. She might be irresponsible due to personality issues not just her impaired brain functioning under illness.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is why the courts exist. It’s not up to us to decide based on bits of pieces of information, a lame documentary, and her Instagram dancing. We can speculate—it’s entertaining, I guess—but if you’re interested in helping people with mental illness, running around with #freebritney signs isn’t the way to do it. Go back to school and find some other way to help.

I’m pretty annoyed with all the celebs tweeting their support. Like they know her situation better than a team of qualified mental health professionals and the judge.


NP. I watched on TV (from a friend of hers speaking on her behalf several weeks ago) that she was happy to continue with a guardian or conservator or whatever it's called but she just wanted her father completely out of it all.

I think that's a reasonable request and I don't know why it isn't being enforced by the courts.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is why the courts exist. It’s not up to us to decide based on bits of pieces of information, a lame documentary, and her Instagram dancing. We can speculate—it’s entertaining, I guess—but if you’re interested in helping people with mental illness, running around with #freebritney signs isn’t the way to do it. Go back to school and find some other way to help.

I’m pretty annoyed with all the celebs tweeting their support. Like they know her situation better than a team of qualified mental health professionals and the judge.


Agree! And lay people too. The whole thing is a poop circus because she really does appear to need a conservatorship and this whole #FreeBritney BS is just an unfair attack on the conservatorship system. That system has abuse in it, but this doesn’t seem to be it.

Remove the parents from the equation, assign her a neutral third party conservator.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You mean the reality show she did in 2005 three years before the conservator ship?
When she was 24?

Can we talk about the age of onset of schizophrenia?


She was on X factor 2012 for one season.


The conservatorship is to make sure she takes her meds every single day, not to limit or control her career.

All these posts about how this shows the problem with conservatorship and how it needs to be limited, to me it shows the benefits of conservatorship and how it should be expanded to cover more people who need it but don't currently get it.


+1 remember when she was driving with a baby in her lap?


I fear she still does now what she did then, an ongoing version of rationalizing and minimization (when confronted on driving with the baby, in no safety seat, her response then was, "We're country!"). When confronted on almost dropping the baby on the sidewalk when she was carrying him with one arm, and a glass in the other, (not even saying it was alcohol) her response was that she was swamped by paparazzi not that she was holding him in securely. She is defensive so she has trouble taking responsibility. She might be irresponsible due to personality issues not just her impaired brain functioning under illness.


Um this is a pretty poor excuse for “concern.” Those incidents occurred 15 years ago. Do you have any actual evidence to validate your ongoing fears that she’ll repeat this behavior?

Regardless, there’s a difference between granting her custody vs. an once of control over her body and life. Let the kids stay with their father, but on what basis should a woman not be allowed to paint her own cabinets? The custody issues are separate.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You mean the reality show she did in 2005 three years before the conservator ship?
When she was 24?

Can we talk about the age of onset of schizophrenia?


She was on X factor 2012 for one season.


The conservatorship is to make sure she takes her meds every single day, not to limit or control her career.

All these posts about how this shows the problem with conservatorship and how it needs to be limited, to me it shows the benefits of conservatorship and how it should be expanded to cover more people who need it but don't currently get it.


+1 remember when she was driving with a baby in her lap?


I fear she still does now what she did then, an ongoing version of rationalizing and minimization (when confronted on driving with the baby, in no safety seat, her response then was, "We're country!"). When confronted on almost dropping the baby on the sidewalk when she was carrying him with one arm, and a glass in the other, (not even saying it was alcohol) her response was that she was swamped by paparazzi not that she was holding him in securely. She is defensive so she has trouble taking responsibility. She might be irresponsible due to personality issues not just her impaired brain functioning under illness.


Um this is a pretty poor excuse for “concern.” Those incidents occurred 15 years ago. Do you have any actual evidence to validate your ongoing fears that she’ll repeat this behavior?

Regardless, there’s a difference between granting her custody vs. an once of control over her body and life. Let the kids stay with their father, but on what basis should a woman not be allowed to paint her own cabinets? The custody issues are separate.


DP. She accidentally burned her home gym down in mid 2020. Oops.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You mean the reality show she did in 2005 three years before the conservator ship?
When she was 24?

Can we talk about the age of onset of schizophrenia?


She was on X factor 2012 for one season.


Was she functional during this time?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You mean the reality show she did in 2005 three years before the conservator ship?
When she was 24?

Can we talk about the age of onset of schizophrenia?


She was on X factor 2012 for one season.


The conservatorship is to make sure she takes her meds every single day, not to limit or control her career.

All these posts about how this shows the problem with conservatorship and how it needs to be limited, to me it shows the benefits of conservatorship and how it should be expanded to cover more people who need it but don't currently get it.


+1 remember when she was driving with a baby in her lap?


I fear she still does now what she did then, an ongoing version of rationalizing and minimization (when confronted on driving with the baby, in no safety seat, her response then was, "We're country!"). When confronted on almost dropping the baby on the sidewalk when she was carrying him with one arm, and a glass in the other, (not even saying it was alcohol) her response was that she was swamped by paparazzi not that she was holding him in securely. She is defensive so she has trouble taking responsibility. She might be irresponsible due to personality issues not just her impaired brain functioning under illness.


I remember being dumbfounded that per the paparazzi pics from the time that she was wearing loose platform sandals, jeans that were way too long, dragging on the ground and she was tripping over them, while carrying an infant, and then she proceeded to drive with him in her lap, an even worse idea. I remember thinking that I wouldn’t want to be home bound but that she could probably get anything she wanted and needed delivered to her. She seemed so hurt and profoundness upset. Having 2 kids in one year did a number on her.

Still doesn’t mean that she should be in this particular care conservatorship.

Anonymous
I don't know how her conservatorship is currently structured, but it could be that whatever involvement her father has is in her best interest, and that he can back that up with supporting documentation.

If someone is paranoid, they will blame whoever is "in charge" at the moment for their problems. My mom said my dad was doing all kinds of crazy things to her--none of them based on reality. When they divorced, that same angst went toward my sister. When she left the house, the angst was directed at me. She needed a scapegoat for her problems.

I don't know if this is what's happening here; none of us do. But these people saying "we'll stop protesting when Britney asks us to" may have some mental illness of their own if they really think they are in the best position to make this call.

Again, there are mental health experts who understand her condition better than any of us who are offering their expert advice to the courts. These people are also under intense scrutiny, so I don't think they are taking the responsibility lightly.

Isn't Amanda Bynes in a similar situation? Are people protesting for her?
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