Framing Britney Spears

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Anonymous wrote:Oh, please. Kevin started slinging trash first. Why? Because her $$$$ to him is about to expire. He's angry and lashing out.

She was clearly explained that she while she was in the conservatorship she wasn't able to freely see them, or take a damn Tylenol without permission. Give her some time to acclimate to being free again.

The public can give her time, but her kids don’t owe her anything. If as a mother you don’t get that it’s embarrassing to constantly post mostly nude pics of yourself on Instagram, then you are the problem.

I didn't say the kids owe her anything. They've clearly been manipulated. Let's agree to that. Men and women who are parents post mostly nude pics all the time. Britney also claimed they are a pot-heavy household, which she doesn't agree with. Okay, I don't think K-Fed is a saint. He's not even employed. What's worse a mom who posts nude pics after making tons of money doing grueling work, or a dad who doesn't work and smokes pot all the time? See how that works.

Her father had been pushing a misogynistic trope that the media has helped pushed (because of the Britney industrial $$$ complex), and you all believe it.

I don’t know what circles you run in, but no men and women do not post mostly nude pics all the time.

You clearly have an agenda. No mention of pot-smoking, unemployed dad. Admit he had a good life gaining more than 50% custody + insane amounts of cash that was only possible due to the conservatorship. But, sure call her out for nudity.

If your teen sons respectfully ask you to stop p, explaining how it affects them in front of peers, and you don’t, no I don’t think you are a good mom.

I think she loves them, but it's almost impossible to disguise mental illness in close relationships..

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Anonymous wrote:Kevin Federline released some videos of Britney fighting with her kids. Really inappropriate to share. Watching them, she clearly is frustrated and responding inappropriately. But also, I think many of us have parents like this. Not ideal but not abusive, IMO. The kids respond as sassy teens. Not ok in my house but I am sure it happens often enough when kids are mad.

I’m not sure why he is being so immature when she has a history of mental illness. It’s all very sad.

But remember the Free Brittney crowd says that’s not true.

Please stop with this crap. I think everyone can agree Britney has mental health issues and has made poor financial decisions in the past. Unless she is a danger to herself or others, she really does have a right to live her life and make mistakes. The only reason for the conservatorship was to ensure she continued to be a moneymaker for everyone around her. No way that was in her- or her kids'- best interest.

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Anonymous wrote:Kevin Federline released some videos of Britney fighting with her kids. Really inappropriate to share. Watching them, she clearly is frustrated and responding inappropriately. But also, I think many of us have parents like this. Not ideal but not abusive, IMO. The kids respond as sassy teens. Not ok in my house but I am sure it happens often enough when kids are mad.

I’m not sure why he is being so immature when she has a history of mental illness. It’s all very sad.

But remember the Free Brittney crowd says that’s not true.

Please stop with this crap. I think everyone can agree Britney has mental health issues and has made poor financial decisions in the past. Unless she is a danger to herself or others, she really does have a right to live her life and make mistakes. The only reason for the conservatorship was to ensure she continued to be a moneymaker for everyone around her. No way that was in her- or her kids'- best interest.

Aside from performing and making money, taking her medication consistently is arguably in her and her kids'best interest. Or arguably not.

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Anonymous wrote:Kevin Federline released some videos of Britney fighting with her kids. Really inappropriate to share. Watching them, she clearly is frustrated and responding inappropriately. But also, I think many of us have parents like this. Not ideal but not abusive, IMO. The kids respond as sassy teens. Not ok in my house but I am sure it happens often enough when kids are mad.

I’m not sure why he is being so immature when she has a history of mental illness. It’s all very sad.

But remember the Free Brittney crowd says that’s not true.

Please stop with this crap. I think everyone can agree Britney has mental health issues and has made poor financial decisions in the past. Unless she is a danger to herself or others, she really does have a right to live her life and make mistakes. The only reason for the conservatorship was to ensure she continued to be a moneymaker for everyone around her. No way that was in her- or her kids'- best interest.

No. Many people cannot agree - that’s the point. The Free Brittney stans believe she doesn’t have mental health issues. This thread is riddled with those posts where people claimed that she never had mental health issues and drugged against her will.

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Anonymous wrote:Kevin Federline released some videos of Britney fighting with her kids. Really inappropriate to share. Watching them, she clearly is frustrated and responding inappropriately. But also, I think many of us have parents like this. Not ideal but not abusive, IMO. The kids respond as sassy teens. Not ok in my house but I am sure it happens often enough when kids are mad.

I’m not sure why he is being so immature when she has a history of mental illness. It’s all very sad.

But remember the Free Brittney crowd says that’s not true.

Please stop with this crap. I think everyone can agree Britney has mental health issues and has made poor financial decisions in the past. Unless she is a danger to herself or others, she really does have a right to live her life and make mistakes. The only reason for the conservatorship was to ensure she continued to be a moneymaker for everyone around her. No way that was in her- or her kids'- best interest.

No. Many people cannot agree - that’s the point. The Free Brittney stans believe she doesn’t have mental health issues. This thread is riddled with those posts where people claimed that she never had mental health issues and drugged against her will.

I do think she had mental issues. I also think the conservatorship lasted longer than needed. Lots of people have mental issues and aren’t the best parents. If they’re not abusive and it doesn’t seem she is (not that it matters since she doesn’t have custody), then she still is an adult who can make her own decisions.

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Britney’s problems aren’t just “mental issues”.
I’m sure she has some kind of mental health problem, like millions of other people and like the majority of celebrities. She’s also simple. It’s a very bad combination for such a wealthy and famous person. I know that people wring their hands and point out all the other train wrecks who haven’t been placed under a conservatorship. But I don’t think any of them has the kind of intellectual challenges we’re dealing with here.

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Anonymous wrote:Britney’s problems aren’t just “mental issues”.
I’m sure she has some kind of mental health problem, like millions of other people and like the majority of celebrities. She’s also simple. It’s a very bad combination for such a wealthy and famous person. I know that people wring their hands and point out all the other train wrecks who haven’t been placed under a conservatorship. But I don’t think any of them has the kind of intellectual challenges we’re dealing with here.

You're going to be jumped on here, but I completely agree with you.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh, please. Kevin started slinging trash first. Why? Because her $$$$ to him is about to expire. He's angry and lashing out.

She was clearly explained that she while she was in the conservatorship she wasn't able to freely see them, or take a damn Tylenol without permission. Give her some time to acclimate to being free again.

The public can give her time, but her kids don’t owe her anything. If as a mother you don’t get that it’s embarrassing to constantly post mostly nude pics of yourself on Instagram, then you are the problem.

I can’t believe people are defending her parenting. At 11 and 12 years old, she screams at them, curses them out, freaks out over extremely minor things (posting a photo of bare feet in a store in one instance, not using the facial lotion she provided in another instance), wakes them up to rant and berate then, refuses to stop posting naked pics even though she knows it embarrasses them at school and among peers, etc.

Now she’s denouncing them as hateful to the world. It’s no wonder they won’t see her.

A mother who is borderline bipolar is a painful experience for kids. All my sympathy is with her boys and she should just shush but she won’t because she’s borderline and instability is her only reliable characteristic.

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Wow.
Just wow.

I always have given Britney the benefit of the doubt when it came to being a mature + responsible PARENT.
Really.
But I just watched two videos online that her ex-husband Kevin Federline posted today of her w/her sons & to say I am shocked is a major understatement.

Britney took away her oldest son’s phone for going into an ice cream shop w/exposed feet.
A size “13!!” foot for God’s sake. 😲
Then she is seen telling her son that he is “weird” because he is going through puberty.
And she is saying that “little tiny” her cannot take all the stress that her sons are causing her….!!?

She is dropping the F bomb right + left and she clearly is only concerned w/herself.
She claims she “cares” about her sons - not loves them.
It really is all about her.

Trying not to judge but after viewing these videos while trying to remain impartial was tough.
Those boys need a Mother who does not stoop so low as to criticize.
It’s no wonder they do not want to speak to her.

I wouldn’t want to….

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She screams that she is afraid of her son?

Talk about a power trip.

How totally manipulative.

Oh poor me!

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Anonymous wrote:I feel really bad for her but she should know that, mysoginistic or not, no one likes it when a mom talks smack in public about their underage kids. She should have just said she loves her boys and is ready to talk when they are. Add in a bit about Kevin being a jerk if she wants.

Kevin is clearly trash. I thought he was a decent dad since he had kept his mouth shut before. Not sure what has changed. I guess that he’s close to losing his $$ as the kids age out?

I seriously doubt Kevin just randomly posted these two videos of Britney cussing out her two boys (who she doesn’t get to see much since she lost custody years ago.)

I am quite sure it was at the boys persistence that the videos were posted by him.

Since they are still minors or maybe Kevin is being a normal, protective Father.

The boys were probably angered by what she commented on them and wanted to show the world what kind of parent she is.

I don’t see how some people are blaming her sons for being sassy kids.
They are being told their Mother only cares about them, their Mom is blaming them for the stress in her life, that she is afraid of them and is emotionally spent due to the stress they are causing her.

She is using harsh profanity in her yelling at them.
Neither boy is using profanity.
And I detect no sassiness in their voices.
Though who could blame them if they were?

It’s a lucky thing that both boys have turned out okay so far.
The anger and resentment they must feel for their Mother must be emotionally tough to live with day to day.

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The pearl clutching over these videos is ridiculous. I see a frustrated mom disciplining her kids. She's not the first and won't be the last mother to use strong language with her kids. In one video she is saying she the kid should show respect. In the other she takes a kid's phone away for walking barefoot in winter weather. You may not agree with her but this is hardly abuse. If anything, Fed looks like an ass for sharing these videos.

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Anonymous wrote:The pearl clutching over these videos is ridiculous. I see a frustrated mom disciplining her kids. She's not the first and won't be the last mother to use strong language with her kids. In one video she is saying she the kid should show respect. In the other she takes a kid's phone away for walking barefoot in winter weather. You may not agree with her but this is hardly abuse. If anything, Fed looks like an ass for sharing these videos.

She's not a regular mom who gets frustrated dealing with her kids day in and day out. She had 1 to 2 days a week with a court ordered Monitor. She didn't raise those kids, KF did. At best, they probably view her as a part time babysitter, not someone who plays much of a parental role. She honestly doesn't have much ground to stand on on "parenting" them in a harsh way when she plays such a limited role in their lives. Given that, it looks bad she can't even hold it together during limited visitation and makes baffling parenting decisions (waking up kids to moisturize their faces? wtf). It's not a good look. Would you be cool with a babysitter speaking to your kids like that? Cursing at them and calling them weird? I would not. Team Kevin, he really stepped up as a parent in a way I didn't expect and I'm not surprised they boys don't want to spend time with their chaotic mom.

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Anonymous wrote:The pearl clutching over these videos is ridiculous. I see a frustrated mom disciplining her kids. She's not the first and won't be the last mother to use strong language with her kids. In one video she is saying she the kid should show respect. In the other she takes a kid's phone away for walking barefoot in winter weather. You may not agree with her but this is hardly abuse. If anything, Fed looks like an ass for sharing these videos.

She's not a regular mom who gets frustrated dealing with her kids day in and day out. She had 1 to 2 days a week with a court ordered Monitor. She didn't raise those kids, KF did. At best, they probably view her as a part time babysitter, not someone who plays much of a parental role. She honestly doesn't have much ground to stand on on "parenting" them in a harsh way when she plays such a limited role in their lives. Given that, it looks bad she can't even hold it together during limited visitation and makes baffling parenting decisions (waking up kids to moisturize their faces? wtf). It's not a good look. Would you be cool with a babysitter speaking to your kids like that? Cursing at them and calling them weird? I would not. Team Kevin, he really stepped up as a parent in a way I didn't expect and I'm not surprised they boys don't want to spend time with their chaotic mom.

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I also agree with this response.
For a parent to only see their kids every now and then wouldn’t you think she would not complain??
That is all she seems to be doing in these videos.
Complaining how she deserves respect (which she doesn’t give her own parents), that her sons are stressing her so much that she cannot take it.
She is saying her son is weird, that she is afraid of him and she takes away his phone because he doesn’t wear covered shoes in an ice cream shop??!??!

Respect is a two-way street.
She demands respect from her sons, yet she curses at them over and over.
If she cannot model respect for her kids - how can she expect them to give her what she cannot even give them??

Her putting her boys down while blaming them for her stress is master manipulation.
Bar none.

While I didn’t think much of Kevin when he and Brit were married, then divorced I admire him for raising two sons on his own.
The boys look like they are doing well in spite of having to deal with a Mother dealing with mental issues.
Their lives have not been easy but they appear to be dealing well considering.
Their loyalty to their Father shows that he was the one that was always around for them and provided stability.
Without him Lord only knows where they would have ended up.
Thank goodness they had at least one consistent parent.

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It’s very easy to make a parent look bad in a by sharing a 1 minute video. If Kevin had his kids best interests at heart, none of us would have ever seen this.