FCV parents - has anyone heard anything?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hopefully by next week so everyone can stop speculating and get on with it.

Are any DA players out there staying put?

We are not and many others aren't either. Most not admitting it publicly....yet.

Definitely fake news!!! You can only start 11 at a time. If you have a team with three elite strikers, you can't them all where they want. Guess what happens the next season, one or maybe even two them leave. Kids that are happy with coaching and club aren't leaving.

What kind of base coach can’t figure out how to start three strikers 😂😂😂

DP. Previous posters point remains that all players cannot play in one league, there will be politics in starting positions on ECNL teams, and players won’t all flock to ECNL (nor are they already rostered on ECNL teams) in sorting bin fashion. Bottom line, the environment remains fractured, especially in this area with only a few above average performing ECNL teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hopefully by next week so everyone can stop speculating and get on with it.

Are any DA players out there staying put?

We are not and many others aren't either. Most not admitting it publicly....yet.

Definitely fake news!!! You can only start 11 at a time. If you have a team with three elite strikers, you can't them all where they want. Guess what happens the next season, one or maybe even two them leave. Kids that are happy with coaching and club aren't leaving.

What kind of base coach can’t figure out how to start three strikers 😂😂😂

DP. Previous posters point remains that all players cannot play in one league, there will be politics in starting positions on ECNL teams, and players won’t all flock to ECNL (nor are they already rostered on ECNL teams) in sorting bin fashion. Bottom line, the environment remains fractured, especially in this area with only a few above average performing ECNL teams.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can FCV parents stop pretending that DA was superior to ECNL. First, the only serious DA competition took place in SoCal. Everywhere else, except maybe Texas, was inferior. Even in DC, FCV was the only serious club and it was a former ECNL club. MU/WSVA was a start-up, Arlington came from CCL and BA/WSMD didn't even get Pipeline's best players. BA probably gave more waivers for private high school play than any DA club in the nation.

FCV players are better off leaving the club and joining local ECNL clubs. I am certain that players at every age group can make teams at McLean, Bethesda, BRYC, Loudoun and VDA. They might not start but they will make a team. Time to stop the silliness. ECNL is and has always beenthe big dog. You made a run to unseat the league but failed. Let it go.

With all due respect, DA was not inferior in this region either. Revisionist history.

Seriously?! You had FCV and a bunch of weak teams. FCV U18/19 could compete with McLean and MUFC but those two ECNL teams are stronger. I doubt there is a DA team on the East coast at any age level that can beat a Nationally-ranked ECNL team.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can FCV parents stop pretending that DA was superior to ECNL. First, the only serious DA competition took place in SoCal. Everywhere else, except maybe Texas, was inferior. Even in DC, FCV was the only serious club and it was a former ECNL club. MU/WSVA was a start-up, Arlington came from CCL and BA/WSMD didn't even get Pipeline's best players. BA probably gave more waivers for private high school play than any DA club in the nation.

FCV players are better off leaving the club and joining local ECNL clubs. I am certain that players at every age group can make teams at McLean, Bethesda, BRYC, Loudoun and VDA. They might not start but they will make a team. Time to stop the silliness. ECNL is and has always beenthe big dog. You made a run to unseat the league but failed. Let it go.

With all due respect, DA was not inferior in this region either. Revisionist history.

Seriously?! You had FCV and a bunch of weak teams. FCV U18/19 could compete with McLean and MUFC but those two ECNL teams are stronger. I doubt there is a DA team on the East coast at any age level that can beat a Nationally-ranked ECNL team.

So your defense of your point rests on one set of teams in one age group? I think we are done here

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I call troll. No coach makes those promises before someone is on team. Oh Wait FCV used to do that.

I'm a new poster to this thread. In my experience some coaches will indeed make exactly these types of promise in order to get a kid they want. Almost all coaches will go as far as to say something like "I can't make a firm promise, but based on what I have seen I believe it's very likely your kid will start for the team".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can FCV parents stop pretending that DA was superior to ECNL. First, the only serious DA competition took place in SoCal. Everywhere else, except maybe Texas, was inferior. Even in DC, FCV was the only serious club and it was a former ECNL club. MU/WSVA was a start-up, Arlington came from CCL and BA/WSMD didn't even get Pipeline's best players. BA probably gave more waivers for private high school play than any DA club in the nation.

FCV players are better off leaving the club and joining local ECNL clubs. I am certain that players at every age group can make teams at McLean, Bethesda, BRYC, Loudoun and VDA. They might not start but they will make a team. Time to stop the silliness. ECNL is and has always beenthe big dog. You made a run to unseat the league but failed. Let it go.

With all due respect, DA was not inferior in this region either. Revisionist history.

Seriously?! You had FCV and a bunch of weak teams. FCV U18/19 could compete with McLean and MUFC but those two ECNL teams are stronger. I doubt there is a DA team on the East coast at any age level that can beat a Nationally-ranked ECNL team.

Is your kid on any of those nationally ranked ECNL teams?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can FCV parents stop pretending that DA was superior to ECNL. First, the only serious DA competition took place in SoCal. Everywhere else, except maybe Texas, was inferior. Even in DC, FCV was the only serious club and it was a former ECNL club. MU/WSVA was a start-up, Arlington came from CCL and BA/WSMD didn't even get Pipeline's best players. BA probably gave more waivers for private high school play than any DA club in the nation.

FCV players are better off leaving the club and joining local ECNL clubs. I am certain that players at every age group can make teams at McLean, Bethesda, BRYC, Loudoun and VDA. They might not start but they will make a team. Time to stop the silliness. ECNL is and has always beenthe big dog. You made a run to unseat the league but failed. Let it go.

To play devil's advocate, if they "might not start", is it better to be on an ECNL team with 20+ on the roster, and ride the bench, or to be in a different league and play. Don't get me wrong, I 100% see the value in the showcases -- my DD is ex-DA as well, but if you go to a showcase and don't play, what difference does it make. Fun experience? Miss school? Spend a lot of $$? But you aren't playing.... We are trying to decide what is best -- stay in what might be inferior but is ultimately an unknown, or go somewhere where she should make a team, but as everyone says, "might not start" -- as who knows what the politics look like.

A friend’s DD, now in college, moved to a first place MA team at one of the ECNL club’s a few years ago (u17) after they relocated to the area. She was offered at the 1st ID session she attended. Even though it was a strong team, Coach told them she’d be an impact player. Ended up getting put at a position that wasn’t ideal for her and platooning with another player. Parents felt the Coach/Club did very little to help in the recruiting process; they thought that may have been because she was ‘new’ to the program, so less of a priority. Schools that were willing to offer scholarship $ didn’t make sense for her academically. Ended up a recruited walk-on at a good academic school, but in the parents estimation she would have ended up there with or without the club she went to. Not trying to knock ECNL, because the same likely applied to DA, but just giving the perspective of one person that had a situation similar to what some of you have.

Experience with my child was that it is better to be playing full time compared to part time for development. And developing into the best player is the key. Yes, you might not be on a stronger team and not be in the top flight at the bigger tournaments. But those that are won't have as much opportunity. And you're still going to have to go to camps and prove yourself with schools you are interested in. It won't matter then what club you are on. It will matter how they evaluate your ability in their own environment.

[Anonymous]

+1-get the spot where your DD actually plays in the games.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:+1-get the spot where your DD actually plays in the games.

+1000
The kids sitting on the bench often regress even if the training is great.

[Anonymous]

There are enough quality players to support the 4-7 “elite” clubs but not if ECNL hoard kids on rosters of 27.

Kids should have the opportunity to play not the hope of it. And the same rules apply, if you are not a starter the league patch isn’t getting you into a ACC school. So it is always best to actually play and end up at the same school anyways.

No college is beating the door down for a kid who can’t even start on their own team. This has always been true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are enough quality players to support the 4-7 “elite” clubs but not if ECNL hoard kids on rosters of 27.

Kids should have the opportunity to play not the hope of it. And the same rules apply, if you are not a starter the league patch isn’t getting you into a ACC school. So it is always best to actually play and end up at the same school anyways.

No college is beating the door down for a kid who can’t even start on their own team. This has always been true.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are enough quality players to support the 4-7 “elite” clubs but not if ECNL hoard kids on rosters of 27.

Kids should have the opportunity to play not the hope of it. And the same rules apply, if you are not a starter the league patch isn’t getting you into a ACC school. So it is always best to actually play and end up at the same school anyways.

No college is beating the door down for a kid who can’t even start on their own team. This has always been true.

Well stated and a message that gets lost when people are focused on the team (patch) and not the player (playing time).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are enough quality players to support the 4-7 “elite” clubs but not if ECNL hoard kids on rosters of 27.

Kids should have the opportunity to play not the hope of it. And the same rules apply, if you are not a starter the league patch isn’t getting you into a ACC school. So it is always best to actually play and end up at the same school anyways.

No college is beating the door down for a kid who can’t even start on their own team. This has always been true.

ECNL rosters would likely stay the same (~20 until U18/19 where it is higher), if all ex-DA clubs get in. Rosters will grow if MA stays with the 4 local clubs since the opportunity for real evaluation will be minimal, and there will be a desire to give kids on both sides the benefit of the doubt. I suspect all ECNL clubs will be expected to have an RL team where unrostered players may play.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are enough quality players to support the 4-7 “elite” clubs but not if ECNL hoard kids on rosters of 27.

Kids should have the opportunity to play not the hope of it. And the same rules apply, if you are not a starter the league patch isn’t getting you into a ACC school. So it is always best to actually play and end up at the same school anyways.

No college is beating the door down for a kid who can’t even start on their own team. This has always been true.

ECNL rosters would likely stay the same (~20 until U18/19 where it is higher), if all ex-DA clubs get in. Rosters will grow if MA stays with the 4 local clubs since the opportunity for real evaluation will be minimal, and there will be a desire to give kids on both sides the benefit of the doubt. I suspect all ECNL clubs will be expected to have an RL team where unrostered players may play.

Rosters don’t grow with more options. This is the dumbest take posted here in a long time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are enough quality players to support the 4-7 “elite” clubs but not if ECNL hoard kids on rosters of 27.

Kids should have the opportunity to play not the hope of it. And the same rules apply, if you are not a starter the league patch isn’t getting you into a ACC school. So it is always best to actually play and end up at the same school anyways.

No college is beating the door down for a kid who can’t even start on their own team. This has always been true.

ECNL rosters would likely stay the same (~20 until U18/19 where it is higher), if all ex-DA clubs get in. Rosters will grow if MA stays with the 4 local clubs since the opportunity for real evaluation will be minimal, and there will be a desire to give kids on both sides the benefit of the doubt. I suspect all ECNL clubs will be expected to have an RL team where unrostered players may play.

Rosters don’t grow with more options. This is the dumbest take posted here in a long time.

You apparently have questionable reading comprehension. Are you from VDA?