Hogan running for Senate

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/05/16/maryland-senate-race-abortion-rights/

Hogan claims to support Roe.

In the Senate, if the GOP controls the gavel, it won't matter what Hogan supports.

Also, will MAGAs turn out for a 'RINO" candidate who supports Roe?



The idea that Hogan did anything but leave the MD abortion laws alone- is just not based in reality.

His veto was the dems bill to allow non Doctors to perform the procedure. Something that in 2022 was not allowed in any state, and even now only in 3 (including MD).

Somehow that has made the narrative "HES ALWAYS BEEN AGAINST WOMEN'S PRODUCTIVE RIGHTS!!!!" and that is just beyond silly.

Hopefully his announcement yesterday diffused the issue, and dems will actually have to have a substance based campaign, and not just Roe roe roe x 10,000 till November.


Will Hogan give Republicans the 50th vote to confirm Trump’s Supreme Court nominees? Yes he will.

What Hogan personally believes is totally irrelevant. He will confirm Trump’s SC nominees. That’s the only thing that matters.


He just announced today that he is enthusiastically pro choice and will fight to restore Roe. So he’ll do whatever it takes to restore it, and we can interpret that to mean any number of things. It appears he seeks to represent most Marylanders in Congress, whatever their political persuasion.


Susan Collins is pro-choice. How did that work out?

When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.



Exactly. Politicians, at the end of the day, care about their power. They are often pressured to stay in line with party leadership, or they can face huge pressure when it comes to any number of things. From losing good committee assignments or Chair, or facing coordinated primary attacks in the next election.

We don't vote for individuals anymore, as much as we'd like to think so. We vote for the party.
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Anonymous wrote:According to WTOP news Hogan “supports legislation to codify abortion rights into federal law.” Has anyone else made that pledge, Dem or R?

Every Democrat currently in the Senate or running for it has made that pledge. Except maybe Manchin.

Obama promised that this would be the first bill that he signed as President. Then he won, Democrats had control of White House and both chambers of Congress and then they did nothing.


I had forgotten that. That first term also missed the boat on a lot of other legislative and funding priorities.
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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/05/16/maryland-senate-race-abortion-rights/

Hogan claims to support Roe.

In the Senate, if the GOP controls the gavel, it won't matter what Hogan supports.

Also, will MAGAs turn out for a 'RINO" candidate who supports Roe?



The idea that Hogan did anything but leave the MD abortion laws alone- is just not based in reality.

His veto was the dems bill to allow non Doctors to perform the procedure. Something that in 2022 was not allowed in any state, and even now only in 3 (including MD).

Somehow that has made the narrative "HES ALWAYS BEEN AGAINST WOMEN'S PRODUCTIVE RIGHTS!!!!" and that is just beyond silly.

Hopefully his announcement yesterday diffused the issue, and dems will actually have to have a substance based campaign, and not just Roe roe roe x 10,000 till November.


Will Hogan give Republicans the 50th vote to confirm Trump’s Supreme Court nominees? Yes he will.

What Hogan personally believes is totally irrelevant. He will confirm Trump’s SC nominees. That’s the only thing that matters.


He just announced today that he is enthusiastically pro choice and will fight to restore Roe. So he’ll do whatever it takes to restore it, and we can interpret that to mean any number of things. It appears he seeks to represent most Marylanders in Congress, whatever their political persuasion.

Link?


Hogan had an interview in the New York Times, where he did NOT say the things the PP says he said.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/05/16/maryland-senate-race-abortion-rights/

Hogan claims to support Roe.

In the Senate, if the GOP controls the gavel, it won't matter what Hogan supports.

Also, will MAGAs turn out for a 'RINO" candidate who supports Roe?



The idea that Hogan did anything but leave the MD abortion laws alone- is just not based in reality.

His veto was the dems bill to allow non Doctors to perform the procedure. Something that in 2022 was not allowed in any state, and even now only in 3 (including MD).

Somehow that has made the narrative "HES ALWAYS BEEN AGAINST WOMEN'S PRODUCTIVE RIGHTS!!!!" and that is just beyond silly.

Hopefully his announcement yesterday diffused the issue, and dems will actually have to have a substance based campaign, and not just Roe roe roe x 10,000 till November.


Will Hogan give Republicans the 50th vote to confirm Trump’s Supreme Court nominees? Yes he will.

What Hogan personally believes is totally irrelevant. He will confirm Trump’s SC nominees. That’s the only thing that matters.


He just announced today that he is enthusiastically pro choice and will fight to restore Roe. So he’ll do whatever it takes to restore it, and we can interpret that to mean any number of things. It appears he seeks to represent most Marylanders in Congress, whatever their political persuasion.


No he did not. He said "times have changed." And he said he would support legislation to codify Roe. "Support" is not "fighting for." And it's very easy to withdraw "support" based on any number of technicalities if the rubber ever meets the road.

Hogan will vote to confirm Trump's nominees to the Supreme Court and also all the Cabinet and other officials that require Senate confirmation. He will be a rubber stamp for a Trump administration. Not a chance that the voters of Maryland should take.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/05/16/maryland-senate-race-abortion-rights/

Hogan claims to support Roe.

In the Senate, if the GOP controls the gavel, it won't matter what Hogan supports.

Also, will MAGAs turn out for a 'RINO" candidate who supports Roe?



The idea that Hogan did anything but leave the MD abortion laws alone- is just not based in reality.

His veto was the dems bill to allow non Doctors to perform the procedure. Something that in 2022 was not allowed in any state, and even now only in 3 (including MD).

Somehow that has made the narrative "HES ALWAYS BEEN AGAINST WOMEN'S PRODUCTIVE RIGHTS!!!!" and that is just beyond silly.

Hopefully his announcement yesterday diffused the issue, and dems will actually have to have a substance based campaign, and not just Roe roe roe x 10,000 till November.


Will Hogan give Republicans the 50th vote to confirm Trump’s Supreme Court nominees? Yes he will.

What Hogan personally believes is totally irrelevant. He will confirm Trump’s SC nominees. That’s the only thing that matters.


He just announced today that he is enthusiastically pro choice and will fight to restore Roe. So he’ll do whatever it takes to restore it, and we can interpret that to mean any number of things. It appears he seeks to represent most Marylanders in Congress, whatever their political persuasion.


No he did not. He said "times have changed." And he said he would support legislation to codify Roe. "Support" is not "fighting for." And it's very easy to withdraw "support" based on any number of technicalities if the rubber ever meets the road.

Hogan will vote to confirm Trump's nominees to the Supreme Court and also all the Cabinet and other officials that require Senate confirmation. He will be a rubber stamp for a Trump administration. Not a chance that the voters of Maryland should take.


Exactly. If you’re a Democrat, why roll the dice on Hogan when you can get everything you want guaranteed with Alsobrooks?
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Anonymous wrote:According to WTOP news Hogan “supports legislation to codify abortion rights into federal law.” Has anyone else made that pledge, Dem or R?


It’s true. Heard the same on WTOP yesterday.

It’s settled: Hogan is pro choice.
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Anonymous wrote:According to WTOP news Hogan “supports legislation to codify abortion rights into federal law.” Has anyone else made that pledge, Dem or R?


It’s true. Heard the same on WTOP yesterday.

It’s settled: Hogan is pro choice.


Me: *spends decades in public life opposing [thing]*
Me, yesterday: "I support [thing]."

It's settled: I support [thing]!

People who weren't born yesterday know better.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/05/16/maryland-senate-race-abortion-rights/

Hogan claims to support Roe.

In the Senate, if the GOP controls the gavel, it won't matter what Hogan supports.

Also, will MAGAs turn out for a 'RINO" candidate who supports Roe?



The idea that Hogan did anything but leave the MD abortion laws alone- is just not based in reality.

His veto was the dems bill to allow non Doctors to perform the procedure. Something that in 2022 was not allowed in any state, and even now only in 3 (including MD).

Somehow that has made the narrative "HES ALWAYS BEEN AGAINST WOMEN'S PRODUCTIVE RIGHTS!!!!" and that is just beyond silly.

Hopefully his announcement yesterday diffused the issue, and dems will actually have to have a substance based campaign, and not just Roe roe roe x 10,000 till November.


Will Hogan give Republicans the 50th vote to confirm Trump’s Supreme Court nominees? Yes he will.

What Hogan personally believes is totally irrelevant. He will confirm Trump’s SC nominees. That’s the only thing that matters.


He just announced today that he is enthusiastically pro choice and will fight to restore Roe. So he’ll do whatever it takes to restore it, and we can interpret that to mean any number of things. It appears he seeks to represent most Marylanders in Congress, whatever their political persuasion.


Susan Collins is pro-choice. How did that work out?

When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.


What are you talking about? Maine's abortion laws remain in line with where abortion laws were nationwide before Roe V Wade was overturned. Susan Collins has never fought for more restrictive abortion laws, was opposed to the overturning of Roe V Wade, and she has made it clear that she supports Maine's current abortion laws going forward. Hogan promised to uphold Maryland abortion laws as they were when Roe was overturned and he made good on that promise. The Supreme Court handed the right to legislate abortion laws back to the individual states in 2022. That's where we are whether we like it or not. With individual states now having this legislative control, those in favor of abortion laws as they were under Roe V Wade should recognize state leaders such as Susan Collins that are on their side instead of lumping them in with those on the other side of an issue. There may be other issues that give Roe supporters reason not to vote for Collins or Hogan but their stance on abortion law isn't one of them.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/05/16/maryland-senate-race-abortion-rights/

Hogan claims to support Roe.

In the Senate, if the GOP controls the gavel, it won't matter what Hogan supports.

Also, will MAGAs turn out for a 'RINO" candidate who supports Roe?



The idea that Hogan did anything but leave the MD abortion laws alone- is just not based in reality.

His veto was the dems bill to allow non Doctors to perform the procedure. Something that in 2022 was not allowed in any state, and even now only in 3 (including MD).

Somehow that has made the narrative "HES ALWAYS BEEN AGAINST WOMEN'S PRODUCTIVE RIGHTS!!!!" and that is just beyond silly.

Hopefully his announcement yesterday diffused the issue, and dems will actually have to have a substance based campaign, and not just Roe roe roe x 10,000 till November.


Will Hogan give Republicans the 50th vote to confirm Trump’s Supreme Court nominees? Yes he will.

What Hogan personally believes is totally irrelevant. He will confirm Trump’s SC nominees. That’s the only thing that matters.


He just announced today that he is enthusiastically pro choice and will fight to restore Roe. So he’ll do whatever it takes to restore it, and we can interpret that to mean any number of things. It appears he seeks to represent most Marylanders in Congress, whatever their political persuasion.


Susan Collins is pro-choice. How did that work out?

When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.


What are you talking about? Maine's abortion laws remain in line with where abortion laws were nationwide before Roe V Wade was overturned. Susan Collins has never fought for more restrictive abortion laws, was opposed to the overturning of Roe V Wade, and she has made it clear that she supports Maine's current abortion laws going forward. Hogan promised to uphold Maryland abortion laws as they were when Roe was overturned and he made good on that promise. The Supreme Court handed the right to legislate abortion laws back to the individual states in 2022. That's where we are whether we like it or not. With individual states now having this legislative control, those in favor of abortion laws as they were under Roe V Wade should recognize state leaders such as Susan Collins that are on their side instead of lumping them in with those on the other side of an issue. There may be other issues that give Roe supporters reason not to vote for Collins or Hogan but their stance on abortion law isn't one of them.


I'm old enough to remember living through the last 8 years. I guess you're not?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/05/16/maryland-senate-race-abortion-rights/

Hogan claims to support Roe.

In the Senate, if the GOP controls the gavel, it won't matter what Hogan supports.

Also, will MAGAs turn out for a 'RINO" candidate who supports Roe?



The idea that Hogan did anything but leave the MD abortion laws alone- is just not based in reality.

His veto was the dems bill to allow non Doctors to perform the procedure. Something that in 2022 was not allowed in any state, and even now only in 3 (including MD).

Somehow that has made the narrative "HES ALWAYS BEEN AGAINST WOMEN'S PRODUCTIVE RIGHTS!!!!" and that is just beyond silly.

Hopefully his announcement yesterday diffused the issue, and dems will actually have to have a substance based campaign, and not just Roe roe roe x 10,000 till November.


Will Hogan give Republicans the 50th vote to confirm Trump’s Supreme Court nominees? Yes he will.

What Hogan personally believes is totally irrelevant. He will confirm Trump’s SC nominees. That’s the only thing that matters.


He just announced today that he is enthusiastically pro choice and will fight to restore Roe. So he’ll do whatever it takes to restore it, and we can interpret that to mean any number of things. It appears he seeks to represent most Marylanders in Congress, whatever their political persuasion.


Susan Collins is pro-choice. How did that work out?

When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.


What are you talking about? Maine's abortion laws remain in line with where abortion laws were nationwide before Roe V Wade was overturned. Susan Collins has never fought for more restrictive abortion laws, was opposed to the overturning of Roe V Wade, and she has made it clear that she supports Maine's current abortion laws going forward. Hogan promised to uphold Maryland abortion laws as they were when Roe was overturned and he made good on that promise. The Supreme Court handed the right to legislate abortion laws back to the individual states in 2022. That's where we are whether we like it or not. With individual states now having this legislative control, those in favor of abortion laws as they were under Roe V Wade should recognize state leaders such as Susan Collins that are on their side instead of lumping them in with those on the other side of an issue. There may be other issues that give Roe supporters reason not to vote for Collins or Hogan but their stance on abortion law isn't one of them.


I'm old enough to remember living through the last 8 years. I guess you're not?


If politics in America has caused misery for you over the past eight years, there are many, many other politicians you should be pointing fingers at before you get to Susan Collins.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/05/16/maryland-senate-race-abortion-rights/

Hogan claims to support Roe.

In the Senate, if the GOP controls the gavel, it won't matter what Hogan supports.

Also, will MAGAs turn out for a 'RINO" candidate who supports Roe?



The idea that Hogan did anything but leave the MD abortion laws alone- is just not based in reality.

His veto was the dems bill to allow non Doctors to perform the procedure. Something that in 2022 was not allowed in any state, and even now only in 3 (including MD).

Somehow that has made the narrative "HES ALWAYS BEEN AGAINST WOMEN'S PRODUCTIVE RIGHTS!!!!" and that is just beyond silly.

Hopefully his announcement yesterday diffused the issue, and dems will actually have to have a substance based campaign, and not just Roe roe roe x 10,000 till November.


Will Hogan give Republicans the 50th vote to confirm Trump’s Supreme Court nominees? Yes he will.

What Hogan personally believes is totally irrelevant. He will confirm Trump’s SC nominees. That’s the only thing that matters.


He just announced today that he is enthusiastically pro choice and will fight to restore Roe. So he’ll do whatever it takes to restore it, and we can interpret that to mean any number of things. It appears he seeks to represent most Marylanders in Congress, whatever their political persuasion.


Susan Collins is pro-choice. How did that work out?

When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.


What are you talking about? Maine's abortion laws remain in line with where abortion laws were nationwide before Roe V Wade was overturned. Susan Collins has never fought for more restrictive abortion laws, was opposed to the overturning of Roe V Wade, and she has made it clear that she supports Maine's current abortion laws going forward. Hogan promised to uphold Maryland abortion laws as they were when Roe was overturned and he made good on that promise. The Supreme Court handed the right to legislate abortion laws back to the individual states in 2022. That's where we are whether we like it or not. With individual states now having this legislative control, those in favor of abortion laws as they were under Roe V Wade should recognize state leaders such as Susan Collins that are on their side instead of lumping them in with those on the other side of an issue. There may be other issues that give Roe supporters reason not to vote for Collins or Hogan but their stance on abortion law isn't one of them.


I'm old enough to remember living through the last 8 years. I guess you're not?


If politics in America has caused misery for you over the past eight years, there are many, many other politicians you should be pointing fingers at before you get to Susan Collins.


The topic is what Susan Collins did (and didn't do), which is why we're talking about Susan Collins did (and didn't do).
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Anonymous wrote:According to WTOP news Hogan “supports legislation to codify abortion rights into federal law.” Has anyone else made that pledge, Dem or R?


It’s true. Heard the same on WTOP yesterday.

It’s settled: Hogan is pro choice.


Probably not as pro choice as you would like.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:According to WTOP news Hogan “supports legislation to codify abortion rights into federal law.” Has anyone else made that pledge, Dem or R?


It’s true. Heard the same on WTOP yesterday.

It’s settled: Hogan is pro choice.


Probably not as pro choice as you would like.


He is NOT PRO CHOICE
That is BS

He's a liar. His actions speak louder than his words. When he was governor of MD we knew exactly how he was pro life. His daughter spews it daily.

And JFC he is a Republican unless he says he is no longer a Republican he is unfit for office.

He will vote party line. He will vote in PROJECT 2025, who wants that hellscape???

Maryland needs to stay Blue!!!!

Anonymous
I wonder who the pro-growth, pro-density YIMBYs will support or endorse. Hogan is definitely pro growth and development.

The anti-freeway coalition (and "freeways to boulevards" groups) will likely vote Alsobrooks, as she would likely oppose the Beltway widening.
Anonymous
Top Trump advocate, echoing Project 2025, says women are “drawn” to “doing the dishes” and says men must “tame” their wives and enact laws controlling women.
Thank you to all the still vote red.

A vote for Hogan is voting red. UGH
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