Petition to bring back SROs

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Anonymous wrote:The family of the Magruder student who was shot is suing the MCPS Board of Ed and the Montgomery County Council for not providing safety measures that could've prevented the shooting, in particular, an SRO: https://www.fox5dc.com/news/mother-of-magruder-shooting-victim-sues-school-county


I guess they never heard about Parkland or Uvalde, where the presence of SROs failed to make a difference.


You're awake! Happy Friday! So how many times will you mention Parkland and Uvalde today? That would be a fun game.


DP. I saw the Parkland and Uvalde response and thought the same thing. It’s the only thing this poster seems to be able to fall back on as an argument.


The failures of SROs present at both Parkland and Uvalde illustrate how SROs aren't going to make a school safe which seems to be the whole argument for them.

This is like saying all cops are bad because of the actions of a few, or all black kids are bad because the actions of a few. Or that gun laws don't stop mass killings so why have gun laws. You are using the same logic as gun nutters use. Like I said before, you progressive liberals are no different than the right wing extremists.. just opposite sides of the same extremist coin.

What happened in FL has nothing to do with what happens in MCPS. FL doesn't have the same kind of oversight on the police that MoCo does.


No not really. It's like saying over 90% of the major school shooting where SROs were present they did not have the positive impact that their advocates suggested which makes me think we're going about this wrong. Maybe instead of putting more guns in school we should consider real gun reform.


The NRA lobby loves SROs. That's actually their answer to school shootings. I can't help but wonder if this never ending stream of pro-SRO posts are from their lobbyists.


Nope. Some of us are just concerned parents with kids in the school system. I actually am very anti-gun, but I live in reality and I know that there are hundreds of millions of guns in this country. I know they are in our schools. I can say “I want gun reform” until I’m out of breath. That won’t take away the guns (and ghost guns) in this region. It won’t take away the people with ill intent who plan to use them. Until someone can make this a gun-free utopia, I want my children as safe from harm as can be. That includes having SROs in schools.


+1 I'm all for stricter gun laws, evening banning all guns, but until this is a reality, I'm for SROs.


THIS. I freaking hate guns! But you know what I hate even more? Schools where my kids are not safe and don't feel safe.


Well MCPS has SRO’s so… it’s a moot point.

MCPS has CEOs. They are not dedicated to the HS, which SROs were. They are also not allowed to walk the halls, SROs were.
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Anonymous wrote:The family of the Magruder student who was shot is suing the MCPS Board of Ed and the Montgomery County Council for not providing safety measures that could've prevented the shooting, in particular, an SRO: https://www.fox5dc.com/news/mother-of-magruder-shooting-victim-sues-school-county


I guess they never heard about Parkland or Uvalde, where the presence of SROs failed to make a difference.


You're awake! Happy Friday! So how many times will you mention Parkland and Uvalde today? That would be a fun game.


DP. I saw the Parkland and Uvalde response and thought the same thing. It’s the only thing this poster seems to be able to fall back on as an argument.


The failures of SROs present at both Parkland and Uvalde illustrate how SROs aren't going to make a school safe which seems to be the whole argument for them.

This is like saying all cops are bad because of the actions of a few, or all black kids are bad because the actions of a few. Or that gun laws don't stop mass killings so why have gun laws. You are using the same logic as gun nutters use. Like I said before, you progressive liberals are no different than the right wing extremists.. just opposite sides of the same extremist coin.

What happened in FL has nothing to do with what happens in MCPS. FL doesn't have the same kind of oversight on the police that MoCo does.


No not really. It's like saying over 90% of the major school shooting where SROs were present they did not have the positive impact that their advocates suggested which makes me think we're going about this wrong. Maybe instead of putting more guns in school we should consider real gun reform.


The NRA lobby loves SROs. That's actually their answer to school shootings. I can't help but wonder if this never ending stream of pro-SRO posts are from their lobbyists.


Nope. Some of us are just concerned parents with kids in the school system. I actually am very anti-gun, but I live in reality and I know that there are hundreds of millions of guns in this country. I know they are in our schools. I can say “I want gun reform” until I’m out of breath. That won’t take away the guns (and ghost guns) in this region. It won’t take away the people with ill intent who plan to use them. Until someone can make this a gun-free utopia, I want my children as safe from harm as can be. That includes having SROs in schools.


+1 I'm all for stricter gun laws, evening banning all guns, but until this is a reality, I'm for SROs.


THIS. I freaking hate guns! But you know what I hate even more? Schools where my kids are not safe and don't feel safe.


Well MCPS has SRO’s so… it’s a moot point.


No they do not. Ask the Superintendant, the county council, the BOE, your kid's principal--there are no SROs. I hate to break it to you.
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Anonymous wrote:The family of the Magruder student who was shot is suing the MCPS Board of Ed and the Montgomery County Council for not providing safety measures that could've prevented the shooting, in particular, an SRO: https://www.fox5dc.com/news/mother-of-magruder-shooting-victim-sues-school-county


I guess they never heard about Parkland or Uvalde, where the presence of SROs failed to make a difference.


You're awake! Happy Friday! So how many times will you mention Parkland and Uvalde today? That would be a fun game.


DP. I saw the Parkland and Uvalde response and thought the same thing. It’s the only thing this poster seems to be able to fall back on as an argument.


The failures of SROs present at both Parkland and Uvalde illustrate how SROs aren't going to make a school safe which seems to be the whole argument for them.

This is like saying all cops are bad because of the actions of a few, or all black kids are bad because the actions of a few. Or that gun laws don't stop mass killings so why have gun laws. You are using the same logic as gun nutters use. Like I said before, you progressive liberals are no different than the right wing extremists.. just opposite sides of the same extremist coin.

What happened in FL has nothing to do with what happens in MCPS. FL doesn't have the same kind of oversight on the police that MoCo does.


No not really. It's like saying over 90% of the major school shooting where SROs were present they did not have the positive impact that their advocates suggested which makes me think we're going about this wrong. Maybe instead of putting more guns in school we should consider real gun reform.


The NRA lobby loves SROs. That's actually their answer to school shootings. I can't help but wonder if this never ending stream of pro-SRO posts are from their lobbyists.


Nope. Some of us are just concerned parents with kids in the school system. I actually am very anti-gun, but I live in reality and I know that there are hundreds of millions of guns in this country. I know they are in our schools. I can say “I want gun reform” until I’m out of breath. That won’t take away the guns (and ghost guns) in this region. It won’t take away the people with ill intent who plan to use them. Until someone can make this a gun-free utopia, I want my children as safe from harm as can be. That includes having SROs in schools.


+1 I'm all for stricter gun laws, evening banning all guns, but until this is a reality, I'm for SROs.


THIS. I freaking hate guns! But you know what I hate even more? Schools where my kids are not safe and don't feel safe.


Well MCPS has SRO’s so… it’s a moot point.

MCPS has CEOs. They are not dedicated to the HS, which SROs were. They are also not allowed to walk the halls, SROs were.


CEO’s are SRO’s they are sworn officers, the exact ones that were SRO’s with 40 hours more training.

They are assigned HS’s as a team so you now have 3-4 so there is backup for sick days, more coverage.

They are allowed to walk the hallways. They are not allowed to get involved in disciplinary issues.
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Anonymous wrote:The family of the Magruder student who was shot is suing the MCPS Board of Ed and the Montgomery County Council for not providing safety measures that could've prevented the shooting, in particular, an SRO: https://www.fox5dc.com/news/mother-of-magruder-shooting-victim-sues-school-county


I guess they never heard about Parkland or Uvalde, where the presence of SROs failed to make a difference.


You're awake! Happy Friday! So how many times will you mention Parkland and Uvalde today? That would be a fun game.


DP. I saw the Parkland and Uvalde response and thought the same thing. It’s the only thing this poster seems to be able to fall back on as an argument.


The failures of SROs present at both Parkland and Uvalde illustrate how SROs aren't going to make a school safe which seems to be the whole argument for them.

This is like saying all cops are bad because of the actions of a few, or all black kids are bad because the actions of a few. Or that gun laws don't stop mass killings so why have gun laws. You are using the same logic as gun nutters use. Like I said before, you progressive liberals are no different than the right wing extremists.. just opposite sides of the same extremist coin.

What happened in FL has nothing to do with what happens in MCPS. FL doesn't have the same kind of oversight on the police that MoCo does.


No not really. It's like saying over 90% of the major school shooting where SROs were present they did not have the positive impact that their advocates suggested which makes me think we're going about this wrong. Maybe instead of putting more guns in school we should consider real gun reform.


The NRA lobby loves SROs. That's actually their answer to school shootings. I can't help but wonder if this never ending stream of pro-SRO posts are from their lobbyists.


Nope. Some of us are just concerned parents with kids in the school system. I actually am very anti-gun, but I live in reality and I know that there are hundreds of millions of guns in this country. I know they are in our schools. I can say “I want gun reform” until I’m out of breath. That won’t take away the guns (and ghost guns) in this region. It won’t take away the people with ill intent who plan to use them. Until someone can make this a gun-free utopia, I want my children as safe from harm as can be. That includes having SROs in schools.


+1 I'm all for stricter gun laws, evening banning all guns, but until this is a reality, I'm for SROs.


THIS. I freaking hate guns! But you know what I hate even more? Schools where my kids are not safe and don't feel safe.


Well MCPS has SRO’s so… it’s a moot point.


No they do not. Ask the Superintendant, the county council, the BOE, your kid's principal--there are no SROs. I hate to break it to you.


Hate to break it to you but they have STOs they just renamed them.
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Anonymous wrote:The family of the Magruder student who was shot is suing the MCPS Board of Ed and the Montgomery County Council for not providing safety measures that could've prevented the shooting, in particular, an SRO: https://www.fox5dc.com/news/mother-of-magruder-shooting-victim-sues-school-county


I guess they never heard about Parkland or Uvalde, where the presence of SROs failed to make a difference.


You're awake! Happy Friday! So how many times will you mention Parkland and Uvalde today? That would be a fun game.


DP. I saw the Parkland and Uvalde response and thought the same thing. It’s the only thing this poster seems to be able to fall back on as an argument.


The failures of SROs present at both Parkland and Uvalde illustrate how SROs aren't going to make a school safe which seems to be the whole argument for them.

This is like saying all cops are bad because of the actions of a few, or all black kids are bad because the actions of a few. Or that gun laws don't stop mass killings so why have gun laws. You are using the same logic as gun nutters use. Like I said before, you progressive liberals are no different than the right wing extremists.. just opposite sides of the same extremist coin.

What happened in FL has nothing to do with what happens in MCPS. FL doesn't have the same kind of oversight on the police that MoCo does.


No not really. It's like saying over 90% of the major school shooting where SROs were present they did not have the positive impact that their advocates suggested which makes me think we're going about this wrong. Maybe instead of putting more guns in school we should consider real gun reform.


The NRA lobby loves SROs. That's actually their answer to school shootings. I can't help but wonder if this never ending stream of pro-SRO posts are from their lobbyists.


Nope. Some of us are just concerned parents with kids in the school system. I actually am very anti-gun, but I live in reality and I know that there are hundreds of millions of guns in this country. I know they are in our schools. I can say “I want gun reform” until I’m out of breath. That won’t take away the guns (and ghost guns) in this region. It won’t take away the people with ill intent who plan to use them. Until someone can make this a gun-free utopia, I want my children as safe from harm as can be. That includes having SROs in schools.


+1 I'm all for stricter gun laws, evening banning all guns, but until this is a reality, I'm for SROs.


THIS. I freaking hate guns! But you know what I hate even more? Schools where my kids are not safe and don't feel safe.


Well MCPS has SRO’s so… it’s a moot point.


No they do not. Ask the Superintendant, the county council, the BOE, your kid's principal--there are no SROs. I hate to break it to you.


Hate to break it to you but they have STOs they just renamed them.


Hate to break your bubble but there are fundamental differences between the SROs (not STOs) and the CEOs. Educate yourself.
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Anonymous wrote:The family of the Magruder student who was shot is suing the MCPS Board of Ed and the Montgomery County Council for not providing safety measures that could've prevented the shooting, in particular, an SRO: https://www.fox5dc.com/news/mother-of-magruder-shooting-victim-sues-school-county


I guess they never heard about Parkland or Uvalde, where the presence of SROs failed to make a difference.


You're awake! Happy Friday! So how many times will you mention Parkland and Uvalde today? That would be a fun game.


DP. I saw the Parkland and Uvalde response and thought the same thing. It’s the only thing this poster seems to be able to fall back on as an argument.


The failures of SROs present at both Parkland and Uvalde illustrate how SROs aren't going to make a school safe which seems to be the whole argument for them.

This is like saying all cops are bad because of the actions of a few, or all black kids are bad because the actions of a few. Or that gun laws don't stop mass killings so why have gun laws. You are using the same logic as gun nutters use. Like I said before, you progressive liberals are no different than the right wing extremists.. just opposite sides of the same extremist coin.

What happened in FL has nothing to do with what happens in MCPS. FL doesn't have the same kind of oversight on the police that MoCo does.


No not really. It's like saying over 90% of the major school shooting where SROs were present they did not have the positive impact that their advocates suggested which makes me think we're going about this wrong. Maybe instead of putting more guns in school we should consider real gun reform.


The NRA lobby loves SROs. That's actually their answer to school shootings. I can't help but wonder if this never ending stream of pro-SRO posts are from their lobbyists.


Nope. Some of us are just concerned parents with kids in the school system. I actually am very anti-gun, but I live in reality and I know that there are hundreds of millions of guns in this country. I know they are in our schools. I can say “I want gun reform” until I’m out of breath. That won’t take away the guns (and ghost guns) in this region. It won’t take away the people with ill intent who plan to use them. Until someone can make this a gun-free utopia, I want my children as safe from harm as can be. That includes having SROs in schools.


+1 I'm all for stricter gun laws, evening banning all guns, but until this is a reality, I'm for SROs.


THIS. I freaking hate guns! But you know what I hate even more? Schools where my kids are not safe and don't feel safe.


Well MCPS has SRO’s so… it’s a moot point.


No they do not. Ask the Superintendant, the county council, the BOE, your kid's principal--there are no SROs. I hate to break it to you.


Hate to break it to you but they have STOs they just renamed them.


Hate to break your bubble but there are fundamental differences between the SROs (not STOs) and the CEOs. Educate yourself.


No there are no fundamental differences, they are literally the same people.

It doesn’t fit your hate for the BOE to admit they have SROs/CEOs that are sworn officers, inside the school, doing exactly the same thing except they don’t discipline non-criminals.
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Anonymous wrote:The family of the Magruder student who was shot is suing the MCPS Board of Ed and the Montgomery County Council for not providing safety measures that could've prevented the shooting, in particular, an SRO: https://www.fox5dc.com/news/mother-of-magruder-shooting-victim-sues-school-county


I guess they never heard about Parkland or Uvalde, where the presence of SROs failed to make a difference.


You're awake! Happy Friday! So how many times will you mention Parkland and Uvalde today? That would be a fun game.


DP. I saw the Parkland and Uvalde response and thought the same thing. It’s the only thing this poster seems to be able to fall back on as an argument.


The failures of SROs present at both Parkland and Uvalde illustrate how SROs aren't going to make a school safe which seems to be the whole argument for them.

This is like saying all cops are bad because of the actions of a few, or all black kids are bad because the actions of a few. Or that gun laws don't stop mass killings so why have gun laws. You are using the same logic as gun nutters use. Like I said before, you progressive liberals are no different than the right wing extremists.. just opposite sides of the same extremist coin.

What happened in FL has nothing to do with what happens in MCPS. FL doesn't have the same kind of oversight on the police that MoCo does.


No not really. It's like saying over 90% of the major school shooting where SROs were present they did not have the positive impact that their advocates suggested which makes me think we're going about this wrong. Maybe instead of putting more guns in school we should consider real gun reform.


The NRA lobby loves SROs. That's actually their answer to school shootings. I can't help but wonder if this never ending stream of pro-SRO posts are from their lobbyists.


Nope. Some of us are just concerned parents with kids in the school system. I actually am very anti-gun, but I live in reality and I know that there are hundreds of millions of guns in this country. I know they are in our schools. I can say “I want gun reform” until I’m out of breath. That won’t take away the guns (and ghost guns) in this region. It won’t take away the people with ill intent who plan to use them. Until someone can make this a gun-free utopia, I want my children as safe from harm as can be. That includes having SROs in schools.


+1 I'm all for stricter gun laws, evening banning all guns, but until this is a reality, I'm for SROs.


THIS. I freaking hate guns! But you know what I hate even more? Schools where my kids are not safe and don't feel safe.


Well MCPS has SRO’s so… it’s a moot point.


No they do not. Ask the Superintendant, the county council, the BOE, your kid's principal--there are no SROs. I hate to break it to you.


Hate to break it to you but they have STOs they just renamed them.


Hate to break your bubble but there are fundamental differences between the SROs (not STOs) and the CEOs. Educate yourself.


No there are no fundamental differences, they are literally the same people.

It doesn’t fit your hate for the BOE to admit they have SROs/CEOs that are sworn officers, inside the school, doing exactly the same thing except they don’t discipline non-criminals.


You’ve repeatedly posted this. You are incorrect. The officers are now split among school clusters, so they aren’t forming the same relationships with individual schools as they once were. It is NOT the same. Some of us clearly want the old model back.
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Anonymous wrote:The family of the Magruder student who was shot is suing the MCPS Board of Ed and the Montgomery County Council for not providing safety measures that could've prevented the shooting, in particular, an SRO: https://www.fox5dc.com/news/mother-of-magruder-shooting-victim-sues-school-county


I guess they never heard about Parkland or Uvalde, where the presence of SROs failed to make a difference.


You're awake! Happy Friday! So how many times will you mention Parkland and Uvalde today? That would be a fun game.


DP. I saw the Parkland and Uvalde response and thought the same thing. It’s the only thing this poster seems to be able to fall back on as an argument.


The failures of SROs present at both Parkland and Uvalde illustrate how SROs aren't going to make a school safe which seems to be the whole argument for them.

This is like saying all cops are bad because of the actions of a few, or all black kids are bad because the actions of a few. Or that gun laws don't stop mass killings so why have gun laws. You are using the same logic as gun nutters use. Like I said before, you progressive liberals are no different than the right wing extremists.. just opposite sides of the same extremist coin.

What happened in FL has nothing to do with what happens in MCPS. FL doesn't have the same kind of oversight on the police that MoCo does.


No not really. It's like saying over 90% of the major school shooting where SROs were present they did not have the positive impact that their advocates suggested which makes me think we're going about this wrong. Maybe instead of putting more guns in school we should consider real gun reform.


The NRA lobby loves SROs. That's actually their answer to school shootings. I can't help but wonder if this never ending stream of pro-SRO posts are from their lobbyists.


Nope. Some of us are just concerned parents with kids in the school system. I actually am very anti-gun, but I live in reality and I know that there are hundreds of millions of guns in this country. I know they are in our schools. I can say “I want gun reform” until I’m out of breath. That won’t take away the guns (and ghost guns) in this region. It won’t take away the people with ill intent who plan to use them. Until someone can make this a gun-free utopia, I want my children as safe from harm as can be. That includes having SROs in schools.


+1 I'm all for stricter gun laws, evening banning all guns, but until this is a reality, I'm for SROs.


THIS. I freaking hate guns! But you know what I hate even more? Schools where my kids are not safe and don't feel safe.


Well MCPS has SRO’s so… it’s a moot point.


No they do not. Ask the Superintendant, the county council, the BOE, your kid's principal--there are no SROs. I hate to break it to you.


Hate to break it to you but they have STOs they just renamed them.


Hate to break your bubble but there are fundamental differences between the SROs (not STOs) and the CEOs. Educate yourself.


No there are no fundamental differences, they are literally the same people.

It doesn’t fit your hate for the BOE to admit they have SROs/CEOs that are sworn officers, inside the school, doing exactly the same thing except they don’t discipline non-criminals.


You’ve repeatedly posted this. You are incorrect. The officers are now split among school clusters, so they aren’t forming the same relationships with individual schools as they once were. It is NOT the same. Some of us clearly want the old model back.


They work in teams so they have coverage and students can form relationships with more than 1 sworn officer or one they can relate to better.

It’s better.
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Anonymous wrote:The family of the Magruder student who was shot is suing the MCPS Board of Ed and the Montgomery County Council for not providing safety measures that could've prevented the shooting, in particular, an SRO: https://www.fox5dc.com/news/mother-of-magruder-shooting-victim-sues-school-county


I guess they never heard about Parkland or Uvalde, where the presence of SROs failed to make a difference.


You're awake! Happy Friday! So how many times will you mention Parkland and Uvalde today? That would be a fun game.


DP. I saw the Parkland and Uvalde response and thought the same thing. It’s the only thing this poster seems to be able to fall back on as an argument.


The failures of SROs present at both Parkland and Uvalde illustrate how SROs aren't going to make a school safe which seems to be the whole argument for them.

This is like saying all cops are bad because of the actions of a few, or all black kids are bad because the actions of a few. Or that gun laws don't stop mass killings so why have gun laws. You are using the same logic as gun nutters use. Like I said before, you progressive liberals are no different than the right wing extremists.. just opposite sides of the same extremist coin.

What happened in FL has nothing to do with what happens in MCPS. FL doesn't have the same kind of oversight on the police that MoCo does.


No not really. It's like saying over 90% of the major school shooting where SROs were present they did not have the positive impact that their advocates suggested which makes me think we're going about this wrong. Maybe instead of putting more guns in school we should consider real gun reform.


The NRA lobby loves SROs. That's actually their answer to school shootings. I can't help but wonder if this never ending stream of pro-SRO posts are from their lobbyists.


Nope. Some of us are just concerned parents with kids in the school system. I actually am very anti-gun, but I live in reality and I know that there are hundreds of millions of guns in this country. I know they are in our schools. I can say “I want gun reform” until I’m out of breath. That won’t take away the guns (and ghost guns) in this region. It won’t take away the people with ill intent who plan to use them. Until someone can make this a gun-free utopia, I want my children as safe from harm as can be. That includes having SROs in schools.


+1 I'm all for stricter gun laws, evening banning all guns, but until this is a reality, I'm for SROs.


THIS. I freaking hate guns! But you know what I hate even more? Schools where my kids are not safe and don't feel safe.


Well MCPS has SRO’s so… it’s a moot point.


No they do not. Ask the Superintendant, the county council, the BOE, your kid's principal--there are no SROs. I hate to break it to you.


Hate to break it to you but they have STOs they just renamed them.


Hate to break your bubble but there are fundamental differences between the SROs (not STOs) and the CEOs. Educate yourself.


No there are no fundamental differences, they are literally the same people.

It doesn’t fit your hate for the BOE to admit they have SROs/CEOs that are sworn officers, inside the school, doing exactly the same thing except they don’t discipline non-criminals.


You’ve repeatedly posted this. You are incorrect. The officers are now split among school clusters, so they aren’t forming the same relationships with individual schools as they once were. It is NOT the same. Some of us clearly want the old model back.


They work in teams so they have coverage and students can form relationships with more than 1 sworn officer or one they can relate to better.

It’s better.


Where are you even getting this?
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Anonymous wrote:The family of the Magruder student who was shot is suing the MCPS Board of Ed and the Montgomery County Council for not providing safety measures that could've prevented the shooting, in particular, an SRO: https://www.fox5dc.com/news/mother-of-magruder-shooting-victim-sues-school-county


I guess they never heard about Parkland or Uvalde, where the presence of SROs failed to make a difference.


You're awake! Happy Friday! So how many times will you mention Parkland and Uvalde today? That would be a fun game.


DP. I saw the Parkland and Uvalde response and thought the same thing. It’s the only thing this poster seems to be able to fall back on as an argument.


The failures of SROs present at both Parkland and Uvalde illustrate how SROs aren't going to make a school safe which seems to be the whole argument for them.

This is like saying all cops are bad because of the actions of a few, or all black kids are bad because the actions of a few. Or that gun laws don't stop mass killings so why have gun laws. You are using the same logic as gun nutters use. Like I said before, you progressive liberals are no different than the right wing extremists.. just opposite sides of the same extremist coin.

What happened in FL has nothing to do with what happens in MCPS. FL doesn't have the same kind of oversight on the police that MoCo does.


No not really. It's like saying over 90% of the major school shooting where SROs were present they did not have the positive impact that their advocates suggested which makes me think we're going about this wrong. Maybe instead of putting more guns in school we should consider real gun reform.


The NRA lobby loves SROs. That's actually their answer to school shootings. I can't help but wonder if this never ending stream of pro-SRO posts are from their lobbyists.


Nope. Some of us are just concerned parents with kids in the school system. I actually am very anti-gun, but I live in reality and I know that there are hundreds of millions of guns in this country. I know they are in our schools. I can say “I want gun reform” until I’m out of breath. That won’t take away the guns (and ghost guns) in this region. It won’t take away the people with ill intent who plan to use them. Until someone can make this a gun-free utopia, I want my children as safe from harm as can be. That includes having SROs in schools.


+1 I'm all for stricter gun laws, evening banning all guns, but until this is a reality, I'm for SROs.


THIS. I freaking hate guns! But you know what I hate even more? Schools where my kids are not safe and don't feel safe.


Well MCPS has SRO’s so… it’s a moot point.


No they do not. Ask the Superintendant, the county council, the BOE, your kid's principal--there are no SROs. I hate to break it to you.


Hate to break it to you but they have STOs they just renamed them.


Hate to break your bubble but there are fundamental differences between the SROs (not STOs) and the CEOs. Educate yourself.


No there are no fundamental differences, they are literally the same people.

It doesn’t fit your hate for the BOE to admit they have SROs/CEOs that are sworn officers, inside the school, doing exactly the same thing except they don’t discipline non-criminals.


You’ve repeatedly posted this. You are incorrect. The officers are now split among school clusters, so they aren’t forming the same relationships with individual schools as they once were. It is NOT the same. Some of us clearly want the old model back.


They work in teams so they have coverage and students can form relationships with more than 1 sworn officer or one they can relate to better.

It’s better.


Where are you even getting this?


In his imagination.

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"Agreement Guiding Community Engagement Officer Program Signed"
https://news.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/staff-bulletin/agreement-guiding-community-engagement-officer-program-signed/

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/departments/security-new/220426-MCPS-Police-MOU-CEO.pdf

SROs were replaced with Community Engagement Officers.

"CEOs will:

Work with all schools in their assigned cluster.
Participate in required MCPS professional development, including non-violent crisis intervention, and equity and culturally responsive engagement.
Have a direct line of communication and contact with the school and coordinate assistance at major school events, such as athletic events, large dances or other activities.
CEOs will not respond to routine school discipline incidents. These incidents are governed by discipline outlined in the MCPS Student Code of Conduct."
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Anonymous wrote:Need petition to bring back -

SROs
Final Exams and mid terms
Driver's Ed
Textbooks
Tracking
Magnet programs based on academic merit
Suspensions
Discipline in the class rooms
Leaving kids who fail behind


We need to get rid of -
Restorative Justice
Fake equity for magnet programs


We need to offer -
Hybrid on-demand
Intensive tutoring for kids who are falling behind
Better special ed.


- We need to have seperate school for "teenagers" who cannot speak English and are illegal immigrants to this county. They should get intensive tutoring in English and literacy to assimilate in society.

- We need metal detectors in each school.

- We need CCTV in the bathrooms and in each school

- All parents must get NARCAN training.



Who is actually asking for all this? Seriously?


Can we not have one petition that fixes all these issues? Otherwise it is too tiring.
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Anonymous wrote:The family of the Magruder student who was shot is suing the MCPS Board of Ed and the Montgomery County Council for not providing safety measures that could've prevented the shooting, in particular, an SRO: https://www.fox5dc.com/news/mother-of-magruder-shooting-victim-sues-school-county


I guess they never heard about Parkland or Uvalde, where the presence of SROs failed to make a difference.


You're awake! Happy Friday! So how many times will you mention Parkland and Uvalde today? That would be a fun game.


DP. I saw the Parkland and Uvalde response and thought the same thing. It’s the only thing this poster seems to be able to fall back on as an argument.


The failures of SROs present at both Parkland and Uvalde illustrate how SROs aren't going to make a school safe which seems to be the whole argument for them.

This is like saying all cops are bad because of the actions of a few, or all black kids are bad because the actions of a few. Or that gun laws don't stop mass killings so why have gun laws. You are using the same logic as gun nutters use. Like I said before, you progressive liberals are no different than the right wing extremists.. just opposite sides of the same extremist coin.

What happened in FL has nothing to do with what happens in MCPS. FL doesn't have the same kind of oversight on the police that MoCo does.


No not really. It's like saying over 90% of the major school shooting where SROs were present they did not have the positive impact that their advocates suggested which makes me think we're going about this wrong. Maybe instead of putting more guns in school we should consider real gun reform.


The NRA lobby loves SROs. That's actually their answer to school shootings. I can't help but wonder if this never ending stream of pro-SRO posts are from their lobbyists.


Nope. Some of us are just concerned parents with kids in the school system. I actually am very anti-gun, but I live in reality and I know that there are hundreds of millions of guns in this country. I know they are in our schools. I can say “I want gun reform” until I’m out of breath. That won’t take away the guns (and ghost guns) in this region. It won’t take away the people with ill intent who plan to use them. Until someone can make this a gun-free utopia, I want my children as safe from harm as can be. That includes having SROs in schools.


+1 I'm all for stricter gun laws, evening banning all guns, but until this is a reality, I'm for SROs.


THIS. I freaking hate guns! But you know what I hate even more? Schools where my kids are not safe and don't feel safe.


Well MCPS has SRO’s so… it’s a moot point.

MCPS has CEOs. They are not dedicated to the HS, which SROs were. They are also not allowed to walk the halls, SROs were.


CEO’s are SRO’s they are sworn officers, the exact ones that were SRO’s with 40 hours more training.

They are assigned HS’s as a team so you now have 3-4 so there is backup for sick days, more coverage.

They are allowed to walk the hallways. They are not allowed to get involved in disciplinary issues.

There are no 'teams". Where are you getting this stuff from. Our cluster has ONE CEO who alternates between the schools.
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Anonymous wrote:The family of the Magruder student who was shot is suing the MCPS Board of Ed and the Montgomery County Council for not providing safety measures that could've prevented the shooting, in particular, an SRO: https://www.fox5dc.com/news/mother-of-magruder-shooting-victim-sues-school-county


I guess they never heard about Parkland or Uvalde, where the presence of SROs failed to make a difference.


You're awake! Happy Friday! So how many times will you mention Parkland and Uvalde today? That would be a fun game.


DP. I saw the Parkland and Uvalde response and thought the same thing. It’s the only thing this poster seems to be able to fall back on as an argument.


The failures of SROs present at both Parkland and Uvalde illustrate how SROs aren't going to make a school safe which seems to be the whole argument for them.

This is like saying all cops are bad because of the actions of a few, or all black kids are bad because the actions of a few. Or that gun laws don't stop mass killings so why have gun laws. You are using the same logic as gun nutters use. Like I said before, you progressive liberals are no different than the right wing extremists.. just opposite sides of the same extremist coin.

What happened in FL has nothing to do with what happens in MCPS. FL doesn't have the same kind of oversight on the police that MoCo does.


No not really. It's like saying over 90% of the major school shooting where SROs were present they did not have the positive impact that their advocates suggested which makes me think we're going about this wrong. Maybe instead of putting more guns in school we should consider real gun reform.


The NRA lobby loves SROs. That's actually their answer to school shootings. I can't help but wonder if this never ending stream of pro-SRO posts are from their lobbyists.


Nope. Some of us are just concerned parents with kids in the school system. I actually am very anti-gun, but I live in reality and I know that there are hundreds of millions of guns in this country. I know they are in our schools. I can say “I want gun reform” until I’m out of breath. That won’t take away the guns (and ghost guns) in this region. It won’t take away the people with ill intent who plan to use them. Until someone can make this a gun-free utopia, I want my children as safe from harm as can be. That includes having SROs in schools.


+1 I'm all for stricter gun laws, evening banning all guns, but until this is a reality, I'm for SROs.


THIS. I freaking hate guns! But you know what I hate even more? Schools where my kids are not safe and don't feel safe.


Well MCPS has SRO’s so… it’s a moot point.

MCPS has CEOs. They are not dedicated to the HS, which SROs were. They are also not allowed to walk the halls, SROs were.


CEO’s are SRO’s they are sworn officers, the exact ones that were SRO’s with 40 hours more training.

They are assigned HS’s as a team so you now have 3-4 so there is backup for sick days, more coverage.

They are allowed to walk the hallways. They are not allowed to get involved in disciplinary issues.

There are no 'teams". Where are you getting this stuff from. Our cluster has ONE CEO who alternates between the schools.


Exactly. One CEO spread among schools.
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Anonymous wrote:The family of the Magruder student who was shot is suing the MCPS Board of Ed and the Montgomery County Council for not providing safety measures that could've prevented the shooting, in particular, an SRO: https://www.fox5dc.com/news/mother-of-magruder-shooting-victim-sues-school-county


I guess they never heard about Parkland or Uvalde, where the presence of SROs failed to make a difference.


You're awake! Happy Friday! So how many times will you mention Parkland and Uvalde today? That would be a fun game.


DP. I saw the Parkland and Uvalde response and thought the same thing. It’s the only thing this poster seems to be able to fall back on as an argument.


The failures of SROs present at both Parkland and Uvalde illustrate how SROs aren't going to make a school safe which seems to be the whole argument for them.

This is like saying all cops are bad because of the actions of a few, or all black kids are bad because the actions of a few. Or that gun laws don't stop mass killings so why have gun laws. You are using the same logic as gun nutters use. Like I said before, you progressive liberals are no different than the right wing extremists.. just opposite sides of the same extremist coin.

What happened in FL has nothing to do with what happens in MCPS. FL doesn't have the same kind of oversight on the police that MoCo does.


No not really. It's like saying over 90% of the major school shooting where SROs were present they did not have the positive impact that their advocates suggested which makes me think we're going about this wrong. Maybe instead of putting more guns in school we should consider real gun reform.


The NRA lobby loves SROs. That's actually their answer to school shootings. I can't help but wonder if this never ending stream of pro-SRO posts are from their lobbyists.


Nope. Some of us are just concerned parents with kids in the school system. I actually am very anti-gun, but I live in reality and I know that there are hundreds of millions of guns in this country. I know they are in our schools. I can say “I want gun reform” until I’m out of breath. That won’t take away the guns (and ghost guns) in this region. It won’t take away the people with ill intent who plan to use them. Until someone can make this a gun-free utopia, I want my children as safe from harm as can be. That includes having SROs in schools.


+1 I'm all for stricter gun laws, evening banning all guns, but until this is a reality, I'm for SROs.


THIS. I freaking hate guns! But you know what I hate even more? Schools where my kids are not safe and don't feel safe.


Well MCPS has SRO’s so… it’s a moot point.

MCPS has CEOs. They are not dedicated to the HS, which SROs were. They are also not allowed to walk the halls, SROs were.


CEO’s are SRO’s they are sworn officers, the exact ones that were SRO’s with 40 hours more training.

They are assigned HS’s as a team so you now have 3-4 so there is backup for sick days, more coverage.

They are allowed to walk the hallways. They are not allowed to get involved in disciplinary issues.

There are no 'teams". Where are you getting this stuff from. Our cluster has ONE CEO who alternates between the schools.


Exactly. One CEO spread among schools.


Before:

The Montgomery County Department of Police School Resource Officer Program consists of 23 sworn officers as well as one officer from the Rockville City Police Department, one officer from the Gaithersburg Police Department, and one deputy sheriff from the Montgomery County Sheriff's Office. These 26 sworn officers represent the cadre of School Resource Officers for Montgomery County, Maryland.
The Montgomery County Public School system has 25 High Schools and 1 Alternative Learning School. The School Resource Officers are assigned one to each of these schools. Additionally, when available, the School Resource Officers provide coverage to 40 Middle Schools and 135 Elementary Schools.

Now:
The Montgomery County Department of Police Community Engagement Officer Program consists of 23 sworn officers, one officer from the Rockville City Police Department, one officer from the Gaithersburg Police Department, and one deputy sheriff from the Montgomery County Sheriff's Office. These 26 sworn officers represent the School Resource/ Community Engagement Officers cadre for Montgomery County, Maryland.
The Montgomery County Public School system, has 25 High Schools and 1 Alternative Learning School. The Community Engagement Officers are assigned to a cluster of schools, typically including one of the High Schools and its respective feeder schools (40 Middle Schools and 135 Elementary Schools).
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