Queen Elizabeth II

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Anonymous wrote:Who controls the jewels and tiaras now? Kate and Camila and the others generally "borrowed" from the queen. Will they be Charles's to lend out or Camilla's?

The country owns them not the family.

Some of the jewels are the Queen’s personal property, and I assume will be dispensed according to her will. Many of the jewels, including the “Crown Jewels,” belong to the Crown, so they will be under Charles’s control.

No they don't get dispensed, they get kept in a line - so Camilla can wear them and then Kate.

Interesting - so the Queen doesn't will any of them specifically? Does she have personal property/items she can pass through a will?

She can will her personal jewels as she pleases. The pieces that belong to the Crown stay in the vault.

Yep so Camilla will have first pick and will probably reserve a few for her personal exclusive use (which she already has but may start wearing ones that were reserved for QEII only). Catherine will either get second pick or Charles/Camilla will loan specific ones out to her.

It’s so disrespectful calling the late Queen Elizabeth II by the name of a ship, the QEII. Please stop.

Sorry. Didn’t mean to disrespect. I was going to say the Queen before I realized I’d be talking about a different person I personally wish the press would stop calling Catherine Kate Middleton eleven years after her marriage so I get it…

Why are we supposed to call Kate Catherine?

Well technically we shouldn't call her either. We should call her HRH The Duchess of Cambridge and I guess soon to be HRH The Princess of Wales.

lol nobody’s ever calling Kate all of that.

Yea I get it. Nobody’s going to be calling the the Duchess of Cornwall and Cambridge (her new title). I want Charles to invest them ASAP as Prince and Princess of Wales so we can call her Princess Catherine or Princess Kate and be done with it (yes, I know that’s technically incorrect but we did it with Princess Diana and we can do it with Kate).

Its not incorrect if she's GIVEN the title, which she will be (and Diana was.) The only thing that's incorrect is that she did not automatically become Princess Catherine upon her marriage. Unless she is bestowed the title, she would just be Princess William, which sounds weird to us because no one modern actually does this and instead uses their Duchess/Countess title given by the Queen. There is an older wife though Princess Michael of Kent and she uses it because she was not given a different title.

Huh? No, that’s not what I meant. The title Diana had and the title Catherine will get is The Princess of Wales. No name. But everyone called her Princess Diana anyway, even though that was wrong. Same with Duchess Meghan or Duchess Kate. Again, that’s wrong. No name. It’s “The Duchess of Sussex” and “The Duchess of Cornwall and Cambridge.” The “The” gets removed and the name gets added in if they were to divorce (Diana became “Diana, Princess of Wales” - no “the,” add in the name).

I don't think anyone is going to start referring to her as Princess Catherine. The press either use the super informal "Kate Middleton" or "Catherine Middleton" (both obviously irreverent and also incorrect) or they will use her title/style HRH The Duches of Cornwall and Cambridge (until this is formally changed to HRH The Princess of Wales.)

"Irreverent" to call a woman by her own name. lol.

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Anonymous wrote:Who controls the jewels and tiaras now? Kate and Camila and the others generally "borrowed" from the queen. Will they be Charles's to lend out or Camilla's?

The country owns them not the family.

Some of the jewels are the Queen’s personal property, and I assume will be dispensed according to her will. Many of the jewels, including the “Crown Jewels,” belong to the Crown, so they will be under Charles’s control.

No they don't get dispensed, they get kept in a line - so Camilla can wear them and then Kate.

Interesting - so the Queen doesn't will any of them specifically? Does she have personal property/items she can pass through a will?

She can will her personal jewels as she pleases. The pieces that belong to the Crown stay in the vault.

Yep so Camilla will have first pick and will probably reserve a few for her personal exclusive use (which she already has but may start wearing ones that were reserved for QEII only). Catherine will either get second pick or Charles/Camilla will loan specific ones out to her.

It’s so disrespectful calling the late Queen Elizabeth II by the name of a ship, the QEII. Please stop.

Sorry. Didn’t mean to disrespect. I was going to say the Queen before I realized I’d be talking about a different person I personally wish the press would stop calling Catherine Kate Middleton eleven years after her marriage so I get it…

Why are we supposed to call Kate Catherine?

Well technically we shouldn't call her either. We should call her HRH The Duchess of Cambridge and I guess soon to be HRH The Princess of Wales.

lol nobody’s ever calling Kate all of that.

Yea I get it. Nobody’s going to be calling the the Duchess of Cornwall and Cambridge (her new title). I want Charles to invest them ASAP as Prince and Princess of Wales so we can call her Princess Catherine or Princess Kate and be done with it (yes, I know that’s technically incorrect but we did it with Princess Diana and we can do it with Kate).

Its not incorrect if she's GIVEN the title, which she will be (and Diana was.) The only thing that's incorrect is that she did not automatically become Princess Catherine upon her marriage. Unless she is bestowed the title, she would just be Princess William, which sounds weird to us because no one modern actually does this and instead uses their Duchess/Countess title given by the Queen. There is an older wife though Princess Michael of Kent and she uses it because she was not given a different title.

Huh? No, that’s not what I meant. The title Diana had and the title Catherine will get is The Princess of Wales. No name. But everyone called her Princess Diana anyway, even though that was wrong. Same with Duchess Meghan or Duchess Kate. Again, that’s wrong. No name. It’s “The Duchess of Sussex” and “The Duchess of Cornwall and Cambridge.” The “The” gets removed and the name gets added in if they were to divorce (Diana became “Diana, Princess of Wales” - no “the,” add in the name).

I don't think anyone is going to start referring to her as Princess Catherine. The press either use the super informal "Kate Middleton" or "Catherine Middleton" (both obviously irreverent and also incorrect) or they will use her title/style HRH The Duches of Cornwall and Cambridge (until this is formally changed to HRH The Princess of Wales.)

"Irreverent" to call a woman by her own name. lol.

The PP is some British nut. They barely called Camilla anything but Camilla and headlines have character count limitations for a reason. Welcome to the 21st Century.

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It must have taken an enormous effort for her to greet the new PM two days ago.

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Anonymous wrote:It must have taken an enormous effort for her to greet the new PM two days ago.

Yeah I’m sure - having the Prime Minister flown to another country at her 30,000 acre vacation home and walking out to her sitting room for five minutes of pictures was so strenuous.

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Anonymous wrote:Who controls the jewels and tiaras now? Kate and Camila and the others generally "borrowed" from the queen. Will they be Charles's to lend out or Camilla's?

The country owns them not the family.

Some of the jewels are the Queen’s personal property, and I assume will be dispensed according to her will. Many of the jewels, including the “Crown Jewels,” belong to the Crown, so they will be under Charles’s control.

No they don't get dispensed, they get kept in a line - so Camilla can wear them and then Kate.

Interesting - so the Queen doesn't will any of them specifically? Does she have personal property/items she can pass through a will?

She can will her personal jewels as she pleases. The pieces that belong to the Crown stay in the vault.

Yep so Camilla will have first pick and will probably reserve a few for her personal exclusive use (which she already has but may start wearing ones that were reserved for QEII only). Catherine will either get second pick or Charles/Camilla will loan specific ones out to her.

It’s so disrespectful calling the late Queen Elizabeth II by the name of a ship, the QEII. Please stop.

Sorry. Didn’t mean to disrespect. I was going to say the Queen before I realized I’d be talking about a different person I personally wish the press would stop calling Catherine Kate Middleton eleven years after her marriage so I get it…

Why are we supposed to call Kate Catherine?

Well technically we shouldn't call her either. We should call her HRH The Duchess of Cambridge and I guess soon to be HRH The Princess of Wales.

lol nobody’s ever calling Kate all of that.

Yea I get it. Nobody’s going to be calling the the Duchess of Cornwall and Cambridge (her new title). I want Charles to invest them ASAP as Prince and Princess of Wales so we can call her Princess Catherine or Princess Kate and be done with it (yes, I know that’s technically incorrect but we did it with Princess Diana and we can do it with Kate).

The press has been calling her Kate Middleton for decade plus now I doubt they will change. Do they even call Andrew’s daughters Princess Eugenia/Beatrice?

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Anonymous wrote:I think the bruises on her hand might signify she had had an IV inserted for fluids and/or medications, but perhaps was removed prior to meeting with new PM.

I wonder...will they ever disclose her actual cause of death?

She was 96. I think we all know her actual cause of death.

Exactly - she died of complications of old age.

No that bruising is not from an IV. There are two pictures of the Queen with the new PM, one which shows her shaking Truss’s hand and the other shows her holding her cane - in that one you can see that both hands are darkened all over, fingers and back of the hands etc. This is something that I have seen only in the very very elderly hospice patients close to the end. The blood starts seeping out of the veins because the skin is very thin and even the most minor of pressure on the hands can damage the fragile aged blood vessels and cause them to weep and the skin to appear bruised. At this point of decline the person is often so frail - as in the Queen’s case - and they have lost much of the body fat on the extremities that would cushion their veins from this kind of damage.

In the photos notice how white the Queen’s face is - this is not only because she hadn’t been outside much in recent weeks, but also I’m sure she has been heavily powdered by her ladies in waiting to allow her appearance on camera in what would be her last photo. Under her clothing I’m sure her arms and legs also were heavily bruised in the manner of her hands. It’s a classic symptom of a dying body which I’ve seen many times in very elderly hospice patients.

In some 2017 pictures her hands/wrist show some bruising. While the bruising look can happen near end of death, they are usually not conscious. And it’s not true bruising. It’s cyanosis.

No, cyanosis is from inadequate oxygenation. A person can have bruising from seeping veins and still have healthy O2 saturation. Are you someone who works in elder care or hospice care? I doubt that you do or you would be very familiar with senile purpura.

As I stated in the beginning, she probably was on blood thinners.

“People who take certain drugs, such as blood thinners or steroids, on a regular basis may be more likely to experience purpura. Non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) may also contribute to the condition.”

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Also are her and William even together? It’s incredibly bizarre that she’s not with the rest of the family and also wasn’t at the Diana statute unveiling. It’s like every event that is important to William she’s MIA.

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Anonymous wrote:It must have taken an enormous effort for her to greet the new PM two days ago.

Yeah I’m sure - having the Prime Minister flown to another country at her 30,000 acre vacation home and walking out to her sitting room for five minutes of pictures was so strenuous.

Considering she was near death, yes!

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Anonymous wrote:Also are her and William even together? It’s incredibly bizarre that she’s not with the rest of the family and also wasn’t at the Diana statute unveiling. It’s like every event that is important to William she’s MIA.

She was also not at the Diana statue unveiling. Maybe pass that because it’s public but why wouldn’t you be with your husband with his grandmother dying? Sophie and Camilla were there.

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Anonymous wrote:Who controls the jewels and tiaras now? Kate and Camila and the others generally "borrowed" from the queen. Will they be Charles's to lend out or Camilla's?

The country owns them not the family.

Some of the jewels are the Queen’s personal property, and I assume will be dispensed according to her will. Many of the jewels, including the “Crown Jewels,” belong to the Crown, so they will be under Charles’s control.

No they don't get dispensed, they get kept in a line - so Camilla can wear them and then Kate.

She can will individual pieces she owns to anyone she wishes. Princess Margaret inherited specific pieces of jewelry, for example.

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No she wouldn't have? They were divorced.

I don’t think Diana would still be alive today, even if the car crash hasn’t happened.

She probably would be alive if Charles and Camilla were not adulterous people. Still,would have been married with proper protection and drivers.

Being publicly cheated on is horrendous, but Diana had plenty of problems.

Her insecurities were from her husband.

Not really. She had a terrible childhood.

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Anonymous wrote:Wonder who wrote this. Certainly not TFG:
Melania and I are deeply saddened to learn of the loss of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. Together with our family and fellow Americans, we send our sincere condolences to the Royal Family and the people of the United Kingdom during this time of great sorrow and grief. Queen Elizabeth's historic and remarkable reign left a tremendous legacy of peace and prosperity for Great Britain. Her leadership and enduring diplomacy secured and advanced alliances with the United States and countries around the world. However, she will always be remembered for her faithfulness to her country and her unwavering devotion to her fellow countrymen and women. Melania and I will always cherish our time together with the Queen, and never forget Her Majesty's generous friendship, great wisdom, and wonderful sense of humor. What a grand and beautiful lady she was—there was nobody like her! Our thoughts and prayers will remain with the great people of the United Kingdom as you honor her most meaningful life and exceptional service to the people. May God bless the Queen, may she reign forever in our hearts, and may God hold her and Prince Philip in abiding care.

Definitely not. Way too literate and not Tweeted.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t be gross. I’m sure Charles is devastated and he’ll probably be a perfectly fine king.
The only royal I can hate on is Andrew and I’m sure even he is in pain right now.

He and his “wife” made Diane’s life miserable and Andrew Parker Bowles as well as all their children. They are two selfish people. They don’t deserve any respect.

“Diane” wasn’t any better. She was just younger and comparatively attractive.
Like it or not, Charles and Camilla are married. You don’t get to pretend they aren’t because you don’t like them.

Like it or not, Charles and Camilla are cheaters, adulterers and homewreckers. You don’t get to pretend they aren’t because you like them.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the bruises on her hand might signify she had had an IV inserted for fluids and/or medications, but perhaps was removed prior to meeting with new PM.

I wonder...will they ever disclose her actual cause of death?

Being 96.

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I’m guessing blood clots post COVID. The edema in her ankles were a tell. The bruising on the hand a result of blood thinners and IVs.