Wuhan virus (coronavirus) arrives in the USA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A US military dependent in Korea has tested positive. She doesn't live on base, but she'd visited the Exchange, so they're putting the base on a high alert level.

The widow of a retired soldier who recently visited stores on a southeastern base tested positive for the new coronavirus in the first confirmed case for the Army in South Korea, officials said Monday as the military went on high alert.

Schools on bases across the country also were closed for the rest of the week, according to the Department of Defense Education Activity.

https://www.stripes.com/news/pacific/usfk-dependent-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-putting-military-on-high-alert-in-south-korea-1.620023

I'm surprised they haven't already limited base access to active duty & dependents and necessary personnel. Admitting a South Korean citizen who still has US commissary privileges from her late husband doesn't strike me as a necessary risk we should be taking at this point.

So now is the thought that just being in the same area(in this case and entire base) as one person that simply went to a store and left mean there can be any outbreak? Is there something they're not telling us about transmission?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A US military dependent in Korea has tested positive. She doesn't live on base, but she'd visited the Exchange, so they're putting the base on a high alert level.

The widow of a retired soldier who recently visited stores on a southeastern base tested positive for the new coronavirus in the first confirmed case for the Army in South Korea, officials said Monday as the military went on high alert.

Schools on bases across the country also were closed for the rest of the week, according to the Department of Defense Education Activity.

https://www.stripes.com/news/pacific/usfk-dependent-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-putting-military-on-high-alert-in-south-korea-1.620023

I'm surprised they haven't already limited base access to active duty & dependents and necessary personnel. Admitting a South Korean citizen who still has US commissary privileges from her late husband doesn't strike me as a necessary risk we should be taking at this point.

Limiting base access the way you suggest would only be effective if they also made everyone who lives/works on base stay on base the entire time.

Yes, that's what they're starting to do for the active duty members, per the article. Families are a different story but I'm sure most people are already limiting their travel outside the gates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seems that comes to preventive isolation, would make sense only for the risks groups. Not everyone.

And what if young healthy people are asymptomatic carriers who bring it home to the at risk groups?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A US military dependent in Korea has tested positive. She doesn't live on base, but she'd visited the Exchange, so they're putting the base on a high alert level.

The widow of a retired soldier who recently visited stores on a southeastern base tested positive for the new coronavirus in the first confirmed case for the Army in South Korea, officials said Monday as the military went on high alert.

Schools on bases across the country also were closed for the rest of the week, according to the Department of Defense Education Activity.

https://www.stripes.com/news/pacific/usfk-dependent-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-putting-military-on-high-alert-in-south-korea-1.620023

I'm surprised they haven't already limited base access to active duty & dependents and necessary personnel. Admitting a South Korean citizen who still has US commissary privileges from her late husband doesn't strike me as a necessary risk we should be taking at this point.

So now is the thought that just being in the same area(in this case and entire base) as one person that simply went to a store and left mean there can be any outbreak? Is there something they're not telling us about transmission?

I think they still don't know. Think about the Chinese woman who spread it to her German co-workers and then took a plane trip(s) home. Did she spread it to anyone on the plane?

Shouldn't we start hearing about people getting it from being on a plane with an infected person?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems that comes to preventive isolation, would make sense only for the risks groups. Not everyone.

And what if young healthy people are asymptomatic carriers who bring it home to the at risk groups?

A young American women is still in hospital, feeling fine after 17 days,a nd they won't release her because she's still testing positive. How many people are feeling fine and going to work, and don't know that they are positive?

[Anonymous]

Did anyone else from the conference that the British guy went to test positive for Coronavirus after the conference or was it just him?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

People who compare it to the flu need to remember that there's a vaccine for the flu and several antivirals that can be used for treatment. And lots of people have immunity to the flu.

None of that applies to the coronavirus.

If nobody had immunity to coronavirus then all who came near it would die. Meanwhile not everybody catches it, not everyone get very sick, not everyone dies. Hence there is some immunity especially in kids.

That's not how immunity and exposure works. Here's a minor example -- I was exposed to chicken pox at least twice as a child (prior to the development as a vaccine) when my siblings had it. Was I immune? Nope. I got it a few years later, from a more remote relative. I was just lucky the first couple of times, in that they apparently didn't cough in my face or anything and my mom was good about keeping things clean, not sharing dishes, etc.
The flu is different because each year's flu is a relative of a previous year's flu -- because they share a lot of the same genetic markers, immunity to one gives you some degree of immunity to the next. This isn't true of COVID19.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did anyone else from the conference that the British guy went to test positive for Coronavirus after the conference or was it just him?

There were at least half a dozen, but I never saw anything with a full count. Reuters had an early article, and the WSJ had a later article (which I can't read b/c I don't subscribe to WSJ).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Of just over 200 cases in Italy — 100 hospitalizations?? That suggests it’s not mild for most.

My theory is, because it’s so contagious, the reported numbers of infected are very low and show only those who are so ill they seek out medical care. I think it’s 200 went to the doctor, 100 hospitalized, but thousands infected with “colds” or totally asymptomatic.

Agree

Yep.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A US military dependent in Korea has tested positive. She doesn't live on base, but she'd visited the Exchange, so they're putting the base on a high alert level.

The widow of a retired soldier who recently visited stores on a southeastern base tested positive for the new coronavirus in the first confirmed case for the Army in South Korea, officials said Monday as the military went on high alert.

Schools on bases across the country also were closed for the rest of the week, according to the Department of Defense Education Activity.

https://www.stripes.com/news/pacific/usfk-dependent-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-putting-military-on-high-alert-in-south-korea-1.620023

I'm surprised they haven't already limited base access to active duty & dependents and necessary personnel. Admitting a South Korean citizen who still has US commissary privileges from her late husband doesn't strike me as a necessary risk we should be taking at this point.

So now is the thought that just being in the same area(in this case and entire base) as one person that simply went to a store and left mean there can be any outbreak? Is there something they're not telling us about transmission?

You do know that coronavirus can linger on solid surfaces for up to nine days, don't you?

Now think about how one uses a shopping cart, handles money, opens a door etc. Plenty of opportunities to infect, even though the main transmission mechanismis through respiratory droplets.

[Anonymous]

FYI, the CDC has updated it's numbers.
There were only an additional 13 tests run since Thursday's numbers (which were actually about 60 tests LESS than reported on Tuesday of last week's numbers, so it may be that those 13 from the weekend are just reposting of tests run previously??).
Looks like no additional positives out of that group, but hard to say.
The evacuees are reported separately -- they don't say how many tests they've run there, but the Diamond Princess numbers have doubled from 18 to 36 over the weekend.
So if anyone was hoping that the CDC got the tests up and running over the last few days....looks like the answer is no!

[Anonymous]

Labs in the US will start looking for the new coronavirus this week

https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/24/21147157/coronavirus-lab-surveillance-flu-cdc-virus-tracking-testing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A US military dependent in Korea has tested positive. She doesn't live on base, but she'd visited the Exchange, so they're putting the base on a high alert level.

The widow of a retired soldier who recently visited stores on a southeastern base tested positive for the new coronavirus in the first confirmed case for the Army in South Korea, officials said Monday as the military went on high alert.

Schools on bases across the country also were closed for the rest of the week, according to the Department of Defense Education Activity.

https://www.stripes.com/news/pacific/usfk-dependent-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-putting-military-on-high-alert-in-south-korea-1.620023

I'm surprised they haven't already limited base access to active duty & dependents and necessary personnel. Admitting a South Korean citizen who still has US commissary privileges from her late husband doesn't strike me as a necessary risk we should be taking at this point.

So now is the thought that just being in the same area(in this case and entire base) as one person that simply went to a store and left mean there can be any outbreak? Is there something they're not telling us about transmission?

You do know that coronavirus can linger on solid surfaces for up to nine days, don't you?

Now think about how one uses a shopping cart, handles money, opens a door etc. Plenty of opportunities to infect, even though the main transmission mechanismis through respiratory droplets.

Source? I haven't seen this reported anywhere that wasn't pure speculation.

[Anonymous]

The CDC has also not updated the testing guidance for health professionals since 2/13. Still saying only test if the person has been to China in last 14 days or has had exposure to a confirmed case, and even for those who have been to China, testing only recommended if they have a fever (which recent evidence suggests is frequently not found in COVID). I would hope that they would update soon, but maybe they decided that it's not worth telling people to test until they have tests available.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Labs in the US will start looking for the new coronavirus this week

https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/24/21147157/coronavirus-lab-surveillance-flu-cdc-virus-tracking-testing

But not diagnosing patients. Looking at a broader view of where it may be and only when the patient is negative for the flu. Better than nothing for sure. But still woefully lacking.

"The labs probably won’t be testing each sample by itself, though. Shult says he expects that they’ll be told to mix multiple samples together to make it more efficient. Labs can do that because these samples aren’t being tested to diagnose individual patients; they’re only looking to see if the virus shows up in the population at all. Testing in batches is common in disease surveillance, and it’s used regularly in HIV surveillance, for example."