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Anonymous
Do we even need to answer this?!?! Come on arrow lady------->Yes they got the safe open. |
Anonymous
Is that all you know? Do we know what they removed? Why the snarky response? |
Anonymous
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Anonymous
He lied about WHEN he received the text from Savvas,(forgive me, not sure if it was a text or a call) yet had answered the text Wed. night. He's 28 years old, with nerves steady enough to drive cars really fast. His father was former law enforcement. He knows about cops, and lying in such a very serious situation. He texted Amy 16 minutes after the call to the Fire Dept. had been made. |
Anonymous
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Here is your previous list of "all these things that have surfaced":
As I said in a much earlier reply to this, you created a straw man: 1) He was not "neighbors" with Wint. There is no evidence that they knew each other. 2) His original statement to police contained falsehoods, some of which the police described as "lies" (but not all of them). None of them seem to be very important to me. 3) He is not being "scrutinized" at this point. Rather, old documents were released today. The scrutiny was in the past. 4) Neither you nor I know more than the police. 5) I have posted before about the nature of motor sports. There are the haves and the have-nots. The fact that he lacked money is neither surprising nor significant. SS represented a long term solution to that problem. $40,000 did not. 6) He was fired. I'm not sure why that matters because he was also hired. 7) I'll give you that the kid had a life on a silver platter. Anything beyond that is unsupported speculation. Basically, your list has been reduced to the fact that they lived in neighborhood complexes at different times. I'm not sure that Bruce Leshan or anyone else would find that persuasive. In my heart I know that I am just perpetuating what's sickening me by quoting/bolding/italicizing this (now dated) post, but..... Of all the offensive and crazy things on this particular thread, I find the reference to Philip (known as Flip) 'having life on a silver platter' most disturbing and disgusting. I am a poster who has written earlier asking others not to judge, and I'm reiterating that here. What difference does it make what kind of lifestyle the child had? All he has now is a legacy -- one his sisters and grandparents and friends will try to carry forward -- a legacy of an engaged and sweet kid who had interests and loved his family deeply. While I realize that the original poster was trying to figure out how/why others may have been involved in the murder, to mention the child's lifestyle in any discussion of a motive is false and troubling on two levels: 1. First, no child really has life on a silver platter. A child may have privilege, possessions, prizes, what have you. Certainly, those kids who are blessed with these things are lucky, and those of us who parent them try hard to help the children understand what it means to have so much when most children in the world struggle for the most basic things. But those same privileged kids still have challenges -- there is no 'real' silver platter, only a perception about what privilege means, one that can be dead wrong. 2. Listing *anything* about the child as part of a 'motive' can turn into an easy step for some to say 'he [or the family] deserved it' or 'well, what do you expect flaunting that wealth in front of those who had so little?" I know, I know: no one would possibly say that it was an innocent 10 year old boy's 'lifestyle' that contributed to this, right? Perhaps -- but why even list a reference to a dead child - one whom we now know was tortured brutally? It is cliched to say that I am sure the surviving children and family would give every ounce of silver, gold, and platinum to have their parents and brother back and to have the housekeeper's life restored for her family. However, I'm sure it's true. Please leave Flip's name and life out of any speculation....The poor child died in a way that defies humanity and reality. The least we can do is let him rest in peace. |
Anonymous
| People have been snippy and snarky all day long. I think everyone wishes we had more information, more arrests, more answers. A collective effort to make sense of the senseless, and I (at least) am starting to suspect that it will never, ever make any sense at all. |
Anonymous
Because just like the release of the search warrants now, LE doesn't reveal everything of an investigation. Getting a safe open isn't a challenge to them. Just because you didn't see it open on the news doesn't mean they just decided to leave it because they couldn't figure out the code. |
Anonymous
The evil spirits of barley corn seem to show their influence in late night posts. |
Anonymous
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To the poster who is thinking about this "all day, every day." I think you need to try to get yourself to stop thinking about this. It doesn't help anyone and it won't make this go away. You may just make yourself ill. I'm not a doctor or psychologist, but I think that obsessing over something this upsetting and horrible could have long-term effects.
If you were close to the family, then ignore my comment. I have no business advising you. |
Anonymous
No, this: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Dog_whistle_politics |
Anonymous
| Hmm. That timing thing -- texting Amy 16 minutes after fire department called. If that is true, that is the first bit of truly odd/incriminating info I have heard about JW. I find it really farfetched that an outsider to a crime would have that kind of info within 16 minutes of a 911 call. Look at the genesis of this thread, for example -- "Fire in upper NW?" When there is an accident or crime, it takes time for people to figure out who is involved, what property, what exactly is going on. Seems a little crazy that JW would have learned about the fire at this particular location so very quickly. |
Anonymous
Hard to keep up with this thread, but after reading this, wow:
Wouldn't be surprised if the perps took their phones and were texting from them. Ugh. |
Anonymous
I didn't know the family. I'm a new mother and all I can think about is that child, what he went through, and what his family went through. Am I the only one? I guess I need to stay off of this thread but I feel compelled to learn everything there is to know about what happened, and think about what I can do to protect myself and my family from monsters like this who exist in our world. |
Anonymous
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Someone from the AIW notified JW, then he texted Amy, and drove over to their house. No idea how AIW found out so quickly, unless a neighbor called to inform Savvas after calling the Fire Dept. ?
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Anonymous
Good points. |