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Anonymous
JW claimed he was alerted about the fire by other employees at AIW. Then he tried to contact Amy and alert her to the fire. Don't know if or why he or AIW employees didn't try to contact Savvas nor why the employees at AIW didn't rush over to the house as well; they were closer in Hyattsville than JW was at Chantilly, perhaps because JW with the title of "personal assistant" was considered closer to Savvas. |
Anonymous
| That 16-minute interval still seems pretty short to me. Neighbor needs to call 911, then figure out phone # to AIW, call it and communicate the issue. AIW person needs to figure out who to call, etc. Could happen, but tight timeframe. |
Anonymous
I had the same reaction when I heard about the T.C. Maslin murder, thinking about my husband. It ate me up, and I was so, so scared and so obsessed with the case. In the end it turned out to be the some of the first clinical signs of severe anxiety and depression that I've been working on and medicating for. Please talk to someone about this, anyone. EAP line? Therapist? You need to deal with these emotions and assess how what happens fits into your life and mind. I know how the fear can consume you, and especially with such a high profile case, it's almost impossible to ignore. But you need help. I needed help but waited way too long to get it. |
Anonymous
Ficker needs to be committed to a mental hospital-he is nuts! I read his liscence to practice law was suspended at one point! Perhaps it is time to dis bar him alltogether! What an idiot! |
Anonymous
| Jesus Christ people! They called JW because they were trying to find Savvas to tell him his house was on fire and since Savvas wasn't answering his phone they called JW who had been communicating with Savvas and was expecting him in Chantilly. |
Anonymous
| Why would an AIW employee go to SS house because it was on fire? That's the fire departments job for crying out loud. |
Anonymous
In my heart I know that I am just perpetuating what's sickening me by quoting/bolding/italicizing this (now dated) post, but..... Of all the offensive and crazy things on this particular thread, I find the reference to Philip (known as Flip) 'having life on a silver platter' most disturbing and disgusting. I am a poster who has written earlier asking others not to judge, and I'm reiterating that here. What difference does it make what kind of lifestyle the child had? All he has now is a legacy -- one his sisters and grandparents and friends will try to carry forward -- a legacy of an engaged and sweet kid who had interests and loved his family deeply. While I realize that the original poster was trying to figure out how/why others may have been involved in the murder, to mention the child's lifestyle in any discussion of a motive is false and troubling on two levels: 1. First, no child really has life on a silver platter. A child may have privilege, possessions, prizes, what have you. Certainly, those kids who are blessed with these things are lucky, and those of us who parent them try hard to help the children understand what it means to have so much when most children in the world struggle for the most basic things. But those same privileged kids still have challenges -- there is no 'real' silver platter, only a perception about what privilege means, one that can be dead wrong. 2. Listing *anything* about the child as part of a 'motive' can turn into an easy step for some to say 'he [or the family] deserved it' or 'well, what do you expect flaunting that wealth in front of those who had so little?" I know, I know: no one would possibly say that it was an innocent 10 year old boy's 'lifestyle' that contributed to this, right? Perhaps -- but why even list a reference to a dead child - one whom we now know was tortured brutally? It is cliched to say that I am sure the surviving children and family would give every ounce of silver, gold, and platinum to have their parents and brother back and to have the housekeeper's life restored for her family. However, I'm sure it's true. Please leave Flip's name and life out of any speculation....The poor child died in a way that defies humanity and reality. The least we can do is let him rest in peace. Hey, I understand what you're saying and agree wholeheartedly on almost all points. But- first, I grew up in a very similar background and life and went to the same school as one of the daughters. I have a 9 yr old son and daughter. It resonates. What I meant by mentioning his charmed life (which, yes, it was, and how wonderful he had such an amazing family and 10 years.) was only in relation to a possible motive. Nothing else. I know very well that wealth or money or status or large house doesn't mean anything else. I am here because I feel compassion for this family, it could be mine or anyone I know. Nobody deserves this, nobody. And I don't think I've seen anyone on here insinuate otherwise. I agree your sentiments are correct but they're misplaced. I only came from a caring place. Xoxo I see his pictures- Flip- and my heart cries for the senseless agony. |
Anonymous
Thank you. I detected some real attitude with my friend, above. I take back what I've been saying about civility on this site  LOL
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Atty Ficker was suspended??? Anyone know if he still has can practice law..and he claims he is Wint's lawyer?? Inside Edition stated the same connection between JW and Wint the apartment complex
http://www.insideedition.com/headlines/10711-dc-mansion-murder-investigation-looks-at-go-kart-driver-who-dropped-off-40k-in-cash |
Anonymous
You are not the only one. I knew the family just a little bit and I'm beyond upset about this. I understand exactly how you feel. But at some point you have to just move forward and try not to think about it. This kind of event is really rare. |
Anonymous
He was Wint's attorney in past cases. He is in no way representing him in this case, as the Public Defender's office (who IS Wint's defense counsel in this case) has made clear. |
Anonymous
LOL |
Anonymous
********** Slightly off topic but perhaps it can help you a bit, pp -- I will never forget reading Kate Atkinson's Case Histories in the weeks following my daughter's birth. I was 40 at the time and had been a voracious reader all my and an English teacher/professor for nearly 18 years: I thought I knew everything about catharsis, unpacking texts to find meaning, etc.,. But in reading Case Histories (which concerns the death of a child) as a new mom, I suddenly understood, in a way I never had before, what it meant to be 'scared' of death -- not my own, not my husband's, not my parents', not my friends' (by that time, I'd lost my best friend to cancer and several close relatives as well). Rather, I suddenly became terrified of what it might mean to lose my baby girl. I thought about the book constantly and even today, reading it or any work about losing a child can bring me to my knees emotionally. If fiction did that to me, I can only imagine what, as a new mom, you're reeling with in imagining the evil and sheer hell enveloping a family, a situation that unfolded 'in real life' less than a month ago. At least in my own case, as well, I suspect that being post partum and hormonally upside down also impacted my thinking about losing a child. If any new mom (or anyone, generally) finds themselves unable to 'let go' of thinking about this terrible tragedy, then perhaps some counseling would help. But I don't think you need to stay off the thread, especially if it's giving you some feeling of connection to sharing your emotions. The other comment I will make on this is, again, slightly off topic but related. In December 2012, my daughter was the same age as the murdered children in Newtown. The afternoon of the murders, two colleagues reached out to me. They were both trained clinicians, and both said, in essence, "I know that [your DD] is in first grade and I know this tragedy hurts in an even more profound way for you." I don't measure or compare grief and sorrow, but I can tell you that I grieved and mourned for each of them and their teachers and principal as though I had known them, and in a way I had not during 9/11 or after the Oklahoma bombings or any other inexplicable horror/murder that impacted children. I will also never forget watching the memorial service on television the Sunday after the murders and hearing my husband sob in so much raw pain that it scared me: both of us could all too easily imagine ourselves in the Newtown parents' situation. I hope, pp, that you are able to find some peace and that you are also able to live as much in the moment as possible in the days and weeks and years to come. If the horrors of the Washington murders compel you to think about how to protect your family, as you've said, I hope you can also turn some of the emotional energy towards cherishing every day you have with your new baby. Take care. |
Anonymous
Well, he had left $40K there earlier and the house on fire and SS and AS not answering their phones, he probably was figuring out that something bad had happened. |
Anonymous
It's only been two weeks -- your grief, shock, and array of emotions are still fresh. I've had a number of very painful losses and found I have to go with my emotional states for a while -- it's pay now or pay later. Folks experiencing this grief may find Barbara Karnes' website a resource for dealing with death and understanding the grief experience. It probably won't help with horrific aspect of this but it may help with loss. The best thing that helped me was creating a collage. I've made several. The more effort you put in to it, the more cathartic the experience can be. It can be as simple as cutting or tearing out photos of things that say something to you about the persons or event, arranging them on a paper,and gluing. Or make it mixed media -- including stickers, dried plant material, scraps of material, photos, greeting cards, momentos, etc. My last "loss collage" was mixed media and I even added final touches with metallic markers. I was so happy with it I decided to frame it. The arts seem such an appropriate forum for releasing the intense emotions we're experiencing. Just some ideas. You might also look for bereavement support groups around town if you Prefer to talk -- sometimes offered through churches, hospitals, or a hospice. |