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The FCV ECNL 04 team and the Loudoun Red 04g team will beat every team in the state and have a record of successfully competeting on a national level. They are about the get combined. Where is the overflow going? Think about that...about 16-18 kids...

04G has an established "record of successfully competing on a national level"???????
Not just saying FCV or Loudoun, but how can you even say that at that age?

FCV 04s compete on a ECNL schedule....do everything but college showcase. Loudoun Red have competed against stars..pda...tophat...etc....national caliber talent.....how does that compare to Pwsi and Vsa 04's. You do know that 04s are 7th and 6th graders right. You do know that in a few years they will be HS right?

Enjoy this time with your kid and don't make it all about the chest-bumping. It goes by very fast. It's okay to just breathe and not to be constantly competing for that #1 claim. If that's your focus you will have a lot of disappointment along the way. It's a marathon, not a sprint. [/q



Chest bumping or the truth? I agree..it's better to be humble and let the chips fall where they may...but if we are talking about a specific subject we should at least be honest and realistic

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I went to the VDA and FCV tryouts, but I had trouble identifying some of the players. Is there a website that has pictures and scouting reports on all the U12 girls in the area? And do you suppose they could give us programs with player numbers so we can see who's who at each tryout?

Also, I may miss one of the upcoming FCV tryouts. Are they live-streamed anywhere? Or archived on YouTube with commentary?

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Anonymous wrote:I went to the VDA and FCV tryouts, but I had trouble identifying some of the players. Is there a website that has pictures and scouting reports on all the U12 girls in the area? And do you suppose they could give us programs with player numbers so we can see who's who at each tryout?

Also, I may miss one of the upcoming FCV tryouts. Are they live-streamed anywhere? Or archived on YouTube with commentary?

While you're at it, go drink a big cup of hater-aid playboy

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Christ, I am glad I have boys. These girl parents are even wackier.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to the VDA and FCV tryouts, but I had trouble identifying some of the players. Is there a website that has pictures and scouting reports on all the U12 girls in the area? And do you suppose they could give us programs with player numbers so we can see who's who at each tryout?

Also, I may miss one of the upcoming FCV tryouts. Are they live-streamed anywhere? Or archived on YouTube with commentary?

While you're at it, go drink a big cup of hater-aid playboy

Apparently that "WHOOSH" I just heard wasn't a wind gust but a joke sailing over someone's head.

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Anonymous wrote:Christ, I am glad I have boys. These girl parents are even wackier.

+1000

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You guys must be spies or something. I see nothing anywhere about FCV losing their ECNL spot. I would have thought that would have been reported by now. Whats the source?

Seems to me its more likely that the FCV girls you saw at the BDA tryout were NPL girls.

Where are you guys seeing FCV tryouts on Friday? The website is miserable, but neither it nor their facebook page says anything about tryouts.

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Anonymous wrote:You guys must be spies or something. I see nothing anywhere about FCV losing their ECNL spot. I would have thought that would have been reported by now. Whats the source?

Seems to me its more likely that the FCV girls you saw at the BDA tryout were NPL girls.

Where are you guys seeing FCV tryouts on Friday? The website is miserable, but neither it nor their facebook page says anything about tryouts.

Town hall announcement & ID date announcement both on DA section of website: http://www.fcvirginia.com/Default.aspx?tabid=903867

GIRLS DA TOWN HALL MEETING
For all parents who are interested in learning about our Girls Development Academy program. See link.
Wednesday, February 15th
Belmont Ridge Middle School:
19045 Upper Belmont Pl, Leesburg, VA 20176
Meeting 6:00 pm 8:00 pm
All existing FCV Families, as well as outside players interested in being a part of the FCV's future, are encouraged to attend.

GIRLS ID SESSION DATES:
FCV DA Girls Player Identification Dates – Feb 18th, 24th, 25th – Evergreen Complex

Saturday February 18th (Fields 1 and 2)
Birth Year 2003 9:00am-10:30am Field 1
Birth Year 2004 9:00am-10:30am Field 2
Birth Year 2002/2001 10:30am-12:00pm Field 1
Birth Year 2000/1999 10:30am-12:00pm Field 2

Friday February 24th Field 1
Birth Years 2003/2004 5:00pm-6:15pm
Birth Years 2001/2002 6:15pm-7:30pm
Birth Years 2000/1999 7:30-8:45pm

Saturday February 25th Field 1
Birth Years 2003/2004 9:00am-10:30am
Birth Year 2002/2001 10:30am-12:00pm
Birth Year 2000/1999 12:00pm-1:30pm

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Anonymous wrote:We must also remember that these are not "tryouts", these are ID sessions. Meaning, no offers may come out of any of these sessions. They are collecting names of kids they like.

Tryouts are ID sessions...that's just a play on words

AND YES offers to come out of them. How else would they build a team?

Invitations to practices may come out of these but not outright offers yet.

You sure about that? Who would they be practicing with?

With the girls they keep inviting back. If you are a player at PWSI, VSA or CYA they invite you to a "Friday ID session" or a Saturday. They send the same invitations to outside kids.

This could be a pool of 35-40 kids and then they get to look at them once a week and whittle it down form there.

Yeah....ok....then they are dillusion....PWSI will get embarrassed on a national level..they better snatch up the talent as fast as they can...I promise FCV will be smart enough to do that

If that is the case then why were Loudoun and FCV kids at the VDA sessions? Because FCV is "locking them up"?

Because they haven't had tryouts yet....so......kids (parents) looking for multiple offers.

That's a nice story but what kind of "offer" do they think they're getting? If they're out shopping then they're not sold on the partnership that was sprung on them, so they're looking to get out of their current situation.

Ok..u must be a PWSI or VSA parent. You dont understand how much talent is getting combined between FCV and Loudoun. There will be some very talented kids that dont make the roster and will be looking for new teams. VDA is a secondary option...just like BRyc..mclean..etc. VDA should jump on that situation

I think the top players would much rather go to McLean and BRYC than VDA......

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Fcv don't have ECNL anymore. They have whatever this is. My daughter is on an FCV ECNL group. We have already reached out to Braddock. In fact 3-4 of our current group have reached out to them.

Except remember that the FCV players may not have the loyalty their club is expecting ...

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Anonymous wrote:We must also remember that these are not "tryouts", these are ID sessions. Meaning, no offers may come out of any of these sessions. They are collecting names of kids they like.

Tryouts are ID sessions...that's just a play on words

AND YES offers to come out of them. How else would they build a team?

Invitations to practices may come out of these but not outright offers yet.

You sure about that? Who would they be practicing with?

With the girls they keep inviting back. If you are a player at PWSI, VSA or CYA they invite you to a "Friday ID session" or a Saturday. They send the same invitations to outside kids.

This could be a pool of 35-40 kids and then they get to look at them once a week and whittle it down form there.

Yeah....ok....then they are dillusion....PWSI will get embarrassed on a national level..they better snatch up the talent as fast as they can...I promise FCV will be smart enough to do that

If that is the case then why were Loudoun and FCV kids at the VDA sessions? Because FCV is "locking them up"?

Because they haven't had tryouts yet....so......kids (parents) looking for multiple offers.

That's a nice story but what kind of "offer" do they think they're getting? If they're out shopping then they're not sold on the partnership that was sprung on them, so they're looking to get out of their current situation.

Ok..u must be a PWSI or VSA parent. You dont understand how much talent is getting combined between FCV and Loudoun. There will be some very talented kids that dont make the roster and will be looking for new teams. VDA is a secondary option...just like BRyc..mclean..etc. VDA should jump on that situation

I think the top players would much rather go to McLean and BRYC than VDA......

Depends on where they live

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Regarding the chest-bumping of 11/12 year old '04 players:

“Players all develop at different times. All their attributes can develop at different times, and if you’re coaching a player at a very young age you can make massive fundamental errors around their trajectory and their ability.”
-- James Bunce, U.S. Soccer’s new High Performance Director.

“If anyone is judging a player at under-17 or under-18 purely based on their ability to score goals or their ability to dominate in a training session, there is a massive amount of evidence now that shows that you could be misidentifying them,” Bunce says. “The way we coin the phrase here is that you start seeing fool’s gold and missing the diamond in the rough. You can’t start backing the player who isn’t actually your best option only because he’s just doing well in that age group. You want to be identifying the longer-term strategy, seeing what they could offer in their 20s."

“In many cases within England, players are being released for being too small. … We took a massive stance on this, giving the players the right opportunity and the right environment to thrive no matter what their birthdate was, but rather what their individual requirements were.”


http://www.socceramerica.com/article/72316/james-bunce-players-all-develop-at-different-tim.html

I've been really disturbed by the trend of Clubs around here to give all of their time, extra practices, etc. to just 8-10 players beginning at the U-9-U12 level. My kids have been at two different Clubs and in each Club 8-10 players per age group receive extra winter practices, extra training, extra games. Yet- most of these kids are just dominating this age group for purely physical reasons. I watch the ball skill and decision-making of some of the smaller kids on the lower teams and it is light-years ahead of the A team. But--to win in CCL/NCSL div 1--you just need a bigger kid that can run fast. Winning makes gotsoccer ranking go up. We are really getting it wrong.

Then--you see pages of people lamenting the low quality of first touch and skill present at all of the older DA tryouts in the area. Hmmm....coincidence? They only invite those 8-10 A players per club to ID sessions. By that time---some of the over-looked kids are really coming into their own. Yet--people here talk about a kid's soccer chances being over by 14.

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Anonymous wrote:Regarding the chest-bumping of 11/12 year old '04 players:

“Players all develop at different times. All their attributes can develop at different times, and if you’re coaching a player at a very young age you can make massive fundamental errors around their trajectory and their ability.”
-- James Bunce, U.S. Soccer’s new High Performance Director.

“If anyone is judging a player at under-17 or under-18 purely based on their ability to score goals or their ability to dominate in a training session, there is a massive amount of evidence now that shows that you could be misidentifying them,” Bunce says. “The way we coin the phrase here is that you start seeing fool’s gold and missing the diamond in the rough. You can’t start backing the player who isn’t actually your best option only because he’s just doing well in that age group. You want to be identifying the longer-term strategy, seeing what they could offer in their 20s."

“In many cases within England, players are being released for being too small. … We took a massive stance on this, giving the players the right opportunity and the right environment to thrive no matter what their birthdate was, but rather what their individual requirements were.”


http://www.socceramerica.com/article/72316/james-bunce-players-all-develop-at-different-tim.html

I've been really disturbed by the trend of Clubs around here to give all of their time, extra practices, etc. to just 8-10 players beginning at the U-9-U12 level. My kids have been at two different Clubs and in each Club 8-10 players per age group receive extra winter practices, extra training, extra games. Yet- most of these kids are just dominating this age group for purely physical reasons. I watch the ball skill and decision-making of some of the smaller kids on the lower teams and it is light-years ahead of the A team. But--to win in CCL/NCSL div 1--you just need a bigger kid that can run fast. Winning makes gotsoccer ranking go up. We are really getting it wrong.

Then--you see pages of people lamenting the low quality of first touch and skill present at all of the older DA tryouts in the area. Hmmm....coincidence? They only invite those 8-10 A players per club to ID sessions. By that time---some of the over-looked kids are really coming into their own. Yet--people here talk about a kid's soccer chances being over by 14.

I guess the sad thing is that after all the extra privileges and work being given to those chosen kids they don really end up that much better for it.

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Anonymous wrote:Regarding the chest-bumping of 11/12 year old '04 players:

“Players all develop at different times. All their attributes can develop at different times, and if you’re coaching a player at a very young age you can make massive fundamental errors around their trajectory and their ability.”
-- James Bunce, U.S. Soccer’s new High Performance Director.

“If anyone is judging a player at under-17 or under-18 purely based on their ability to score goals or their ability to dominate in a training session, there is a massive amount of evidence now that shows that you could be misidentifying them,” Bunce says. “The way we coin the phrase here is that you start seeing fool’s gold and missing the diamond in the rough. You can’t start backing the player who isn’t actually your best option only because he’s just doing well in that age group. You want to be identifying the longer-term strategy, seeing what they could offer in their 20s."

“In many cases within England, players are being released for being too small. … We took a massive stance on this, giving the players the right opportunity and the right environment to thrive no matter what their birthdate was, but rather what their individual requirements were.”


http://www.socceramerica.com/article/72316/james-bunce-players-all-develop-at-different-tim.html

I've been really disturbed by the trend of Clubs around here to give all of their time, extra practices, etc. to just 8-10 players beginning at the U-9-U12 level. My kids have been at two different Clubs and in each Club 8-10 players per age group receive extra winter practices, extra training, extra games. Yet- most of these kids are just dominating this age group for purely physical reasons. I watch the ball skill and decision-making of some of the smaller kids on the lower teams and it is light-years ahead of the A team. But--to win in CCL/NCSL div 1--you just need a bigger kid that can run fast. Winning makes gotsoccer ranking go up. We are really getting it wrong.

Then--you see pages of people lamenting the low quality of first touch and skill present at all of the older DA tryouts in the area. Hmmm....coincidence? They only invite those 8-10 A players per club to ID sessions. By that time---some of the over-looked kids are really coming into their own. Yet--people here talk about a kid's soccer chances being over by 14.

I guess the sad thing is that after all the extra privileges and work being given to those chosen kids they don really end up that much better for it.

Ha--good point. But --they still get promoted and placed on the higher teams.

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Anonymous wrote:Regarding the chest-bumping of 11/12 year old '04 players:

“Players all develop at different times. All their attributes can develop at different times, and if you’re coaching a player at a very young age you can make massive fundamental errors around their trajectory and their ability.”
-- James Bunce, U.S. Soccer’s new High Performance Director.

“If anyone is judging a player at under-17 or under-18 purely based on their ability to score goals or their ability to dominate in a training session, there is a massive amount of evidence now that shows that you could be misidentifying them,” Bunce says. “The way we coin the phrase here is that you start seeing fool’s gold and missing the diamond in the rough. You can’t start backing the player who isn’t actually your best option only because he’s just doing well in that age group. You want to be identifying the longer-term strategy, seeing what they could offer in their 20s."

“In many cases within England, players are being released for being too small. … We took a massive stance on this, giving the players the right opportunity and the right environment to thrive no matter what their birthdate was, but rather what their individual requirements were.”


http://www.socceramerica.com/article/72316/james-bunce-players-all-develop-at-different-tim.html

I've been really disturbed by the trend of Clubs around here to give all of their time, extra practices, etc. to just 8-10 players beginning at the U-9-U12 level. My kids have been at two different Clubs and in each Club 8-10 players per age group receive extra winter practices, extra training, extra games. Yet- most of these kids are just dominating this age group for purely physical reasons. I watch the ball skill and decision-making of some of the smaller kids on the lower teams and it is light-years ahead of the A team. But--to win in CCL/NCSL div 1--you just need a bigger kid that can run fast. Winning makes gotsoccer ranking go up. We are really getting it wrong.

Then--you see pages of people lamenting the low quality of first touch and skill present at all of the older DA tryouts in the area. Hmmm....coincidence? They only invite those 8-10 A players per club to ID sessions. By that time---some of the over-looked kids are really coming into their own. Yet--people here talk about a kid's soccer chances being over by 14.

I guess the sad thing is that after all the extra privileges and work being given to those chosen kids they don really end up that much better for it.

Ha--good point. But --they still get promoted and placed on the higher teams.

They are "over-coached". Not in a good way. They are forced to place ball in "X" place and do exactly the set play spelled out...instead of allowing for creativity and using their own brains to develop in those critical years. We stay on the B team (have turned down offers to move up) for the flexibility we want in schedule/off-time and so they are allowed to play without pressure.