This is a blue state bug (for now at least)

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m probably shouting into the wind here, but yet again the big barrier to vaccination is income, not party affiliation:

https://www.axios.com/covid-vaccines-low-income-poor-workers-58698275-0451-4158-a967-37189dbf673c.html

I don't think low income is the cause for low vaccinations rates...at least not in the way the article suggests. The article suggests that low-income Americans want to get the vaccine, but have problems getting it and I don't think that's case. I grew up poor/low income and I'm still very close to family and friends that would fall in that category. When I discuss vaccines with family and friends, it's not lack of access that keeps them from getting the vaccinated, it's purely a lack of want-to.

At first I was shocked by the reluctance, but now I'm not even surprised when some one from back home says that haven't gotten or aren't getting vaccine. At best, they'll say "I don't know about it...". They don't trust the vaccine or have doubts about the vaccine based on nothing more than the continued recycling of bad information within the community. Grocery stores, drug stores, medical clinics/hospitals are all offering the vaccine for free and getting one is easier than picking up something from the store. I don't want to draw correlations between low income and low-education (or intelligence) because I don't that's quite fair. However, many of the ones that are low income because of some of their own personal choices are the same people refusing to get vaccines.

This is a bit unfair. The opioid is still raging among the working class. I am old enough to remember being told that science proves you cannot become addicted if you are in real pain. but now we know big pharms is just as bad as the neighborhood corner drug dealer. It is not crazy to distrust anything coming from corporate amerca. that said, I ran to get my vaccine. It is my patriotic duty to get America back on track, despite the risk.

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Well, it is nice to see the likes of Hannity, McConnell, McCarthy and now Tuberville jump on the wagon. It is at least 6 months late and hundreds of thousands of Americans lives needless impacted.

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Interesting post from an MD I follow on Facebook:

It's been 8 days since my last Covid post. Again I'm simply trying to let everyone know what's coming, and hopefully give you a jump on what you will eventually see in the media. Even if this post isn't well received by some, you need to know the truth.

Today, Dr. Scott Gottlieb said on CBS, "Most people will either get vaccinated, or have been previously infected, or they will get this Delta variant." Sound familiar?

His interview continued, "And for most people who get this Delta variant, it's going to be the most serious virus that they get in their lifetime in terms of the risk of putting them in the hospital," said Gottlieb, who was commissioner of the US Food and Drug Administration during the Trump administration.

"This year's virus is not last year's virus," a quote from Dr. Catherine O'Neal, an infectious disease specialist at Our Lady of the Lake Regional Medical Center in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.

"It's attacking our 40-year-olds. It's attacking our parents and young grandparents. And it's getting our kids," O'Neal said. She said her Covid-19 unit now has more patients in their 20s who were previously healthy.

"You have to get vaccinated," O'Neal said. "That's the only way to end it. Masks and mitigation, they're not going to take it. It's going to be vaccination."

Delta variant Covid is now present in all 50 states, and Covid hospital admissions are up nationwide about 40%. Delta is more contagious and is attacking more aggressively in younger age groups compared to previous Covid strains.

I will repeat my statement from last week: If you haven't had Covid and are unvaccinated, there is a significant likelihood you'll get Delta variant Covid in the next 60-90 days.

If that offends any of you then so be it. There is no more time to sugar coat this.

Vaccines are readily available and are your best tool to fight this infection. Almost 99% of all Covid deaths are now in those who are not vaccinated.

Don't wait until it is too late.

David B Wilhelm MD

It really feels like we are on the crest of a massive wave. We still have 100m Americans who are not vaccinated and are now dealing with a variant that is 1000x more powerful and transmissible. I personally know of 3 fully vaccinated people who are sick with COVID and are (fortunately) dealing with mild cases at home. I have a few friends with kids who are in two week quarantine due to exposure at camps.

This feels so ominous. I just want them to approve the vaccine for our kids so I can stop worrying.

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Anonymous wrote:I...dealing with a variant that is 1000x more powerful and transmissible.

Really? 1,000 times more powerful? There's absolutely no evidence that it's even 1x more powerful. In fact, if you follow the case and hospitalization rates in UK, it isn't even close to being as impactful as prior experiences.

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Even if you do get Covid while vaccinated, it's highly unlikely you'll end up hospitalized or dead.

As of 7/12, more than 159 million Americans are fully vaccinated.

Out of that 159 million, 5,492 have been hospitalized or died with Covid. (Not all of those people were symptomatic, some just tested positive. But let's look at the worst case scenario.)

That's about 35 people out of every 1 MILLION vaccinated ends up in the hospital or dies of Covid (and this is generous, as all those people reported to the CDC didn't die of Covid).

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

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Anonymous wrote:Even if you do get Covid while vaccinated, it's highly unlikely you'll end up hospitalized or dead.

As of 7/12, more than 159 million Americans are fully vaccinated.

Out of that 159 million, 5,492 have been hospitalized or died with Covid. (Not all of those people were symptomatic, some just tested positive. But let's look at the worst case scenario.)

That's about 35 people out of every 1 MILLION vaccinated ends up in the hospital or dies of Covid (and this is generous, as all those people reported to the CDC didn't die of Covid).

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

Ok, now do unvaccinated and compare.

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Anonymous wrote:Even if you do get Covid while vaccinated, it's highly unlikely you'll end up hospitalized or dead.

As of 7/12, more than 159 million Americans are fully vaccinated.

Out of that 159 million, 5,492 have been hospitalized or died with Covid. (Not all of those people were symptomatic, some just tested positive. But let's look at the worst case scenario.)

That's about 35 people out of every 1 MILLION vaccinated ends up in the hospital or dies of Covid (and this is generous, as all those people reported to the CDC didn't die of Covid).

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

More than acceptable risk. So we don't need mask mandates or lockdowns or restrictions again. Good.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I...dealing with a variant that is 1000x more powerful and transmissible.

Really? 1,000 times more powerful? There's absolutely no evidence that it's even 1x more powerful. In fact, if you follow the case and hospitalization rates in UK, it isn't even close to being as impactful as prior experiences.

The Delta variant carries 1000x the viral load of the original virus. That is, "people infected with the delta variant had about 1,000 times more copies of the virus in their respiratory tracts than those infected with the original strain of the coronavirus."
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/07/08/1013794996/why-the-delta-variant-is-so-contagious-a-new-study-sheds-light

You can argue that it's "more powerful" or "transmissible" based on that data. People with the Delta variant also show symptoms more quickly than the original virus, likely because the fast replication of the virus once it's inside you.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even if you do get Covid while vaccinated, it's highly unlikely you'll end up hospitalized or dead.

As of 7/12, more than 159 million Americans are fully vaccinated.

Out of that 159 million, 5,492 have been hospitalized or died with Covid. (Not all of those people were symptomatic, some just tested positive. But let's look at the worst case scenario.)

That's about 35 people out of every 1 MILLION vaccinated ends up in the hospital or dies of Covid (and this is generous, as all those people reported to the CDC didn't die of Covid).

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

More than acceptable risk. So we don't need mask mandates or lockdowns or restrictions again. Good.

You just don't get it, do you? You can still get the variant and pass it along to the unvaccinated, who are now at a much higher risk, especially among adults who are younger. The virus is evolving and will continue to evolve because you idiots can't seem to be bothered with wearing a mask like my kids (all under 7) can. We are blessed with ample suppliers of vaccines while other countries hope and pray they can get it and we're squandering it because of the anti-vaxxers.

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Anonymous wrote:Even if you do get Covid while vaccinated, it's highly unlikely you'll end up hospitalized or dead.

As of 7/12, more than 159 million Americans are fully vaccinated.

Out of that 159 million, 5,492 have been hospitalized or died with Covid. (Not all of those people were symptomatic, some just tested positive. But let's look at the worst case scenario.)

That's about 35 people out of every 1 MILLION vaccinated ends up in the hospital or dies of Covid (and this is generous, as all those people reported to the CDC didn't die of Covid).

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

That's less than half the country. Not a promising sign.

I predict more lockdowns and overflowing hospitals, particularly in Red areas with low vaccination.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even if you do get Covid while vaccinated, it's highly unlikely you'll end up hospitalized or dead.

As of 7/12, more than 159 million Americans are fully vaccinated.

Out of that 159 million, 5,492 have been hospitalized or died with Covid. (Not all of those people were symptomatic, some just tested positive. But let's look at the worst case scenario.)

That's about 35 people out of every 1 MILLION vaccinated ends up in the hospital or dies of Covid (and this is generous, as all those people reported to the CDC didn't die of Covid).

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

That's less than half the country. Not a promising sign.

I predict more lockdowns and overflowing hospitals, particularly in Red areas with low vaccination.

It's already happening. I have family in northern Florida and the case loads are spiking:

https://www.wuft.org/news/2021/07/20/uf-health-shands-hospital-reports-highest-number-of-covid-19-cases-since-january/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even if you do get Covid while vaccinated, it's highly unlikely you'll end up hospitalized or dead.

As of 7/12, more than 159 million Americans are fully vaccinated.

Out of that 159 million, 5,492 have been hospitalized or died with Covid. (Not all of those people were symptomatic, some just tested positive. But let's look at the worst case scenario.)

That's about 35 people out of every 1 MILLION vaccinated ends up in the hospital or dies of Covid (and this is generous, as all those people reported to the CDC didn't die of Covid).

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

That's less than half the country. Not a promising sign.

I predict more lockdowns and overflowing hospitals, particularly in Red areas with low vaccination.

PP. I should have mentioned PP and I should have also mentioned with all those COVID patients, it's taking away resources and beds from others that need care. They're likely to postpone lots of elective surgeries as well as ration hospital beds. Part of the problem is unvaccinated hospital staff.

It's already happening. I have family in northern Florida and the case loads are spiking:

https://www.wuft.org/news/2021/07/20/uf-health-shands-hospital-reports-highest-number-of-covid-19-cases-since-january/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even if you do get Covid while vaccinated, it's highly unlikely you'll end up hospitalized or dead.

As of 7/12, more than 159 million Americans are fully vaccinated.

Out of that 159 million, 5,492 have been hospitalized or died with Covid. (Not all of those people were symptomatic, some just tested positive. But let's look at the worst case scenario.)

That's about 35 people out of every 1 MILLION vaccinated ends up in the hospital or dies of Covid (and this is generous, as all those people reported to the CDC didn't die of Covid).

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

More than acceptable risk. So we don't need mask mandates or lockdowns or restrictions again. Good.

Yes, if we had 100% vaccination compliance. But we don’t. We’re at about 50%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even if you do get Covid while vaccinated, it's highly unlikely you'll end up hospitalized or dead.

As of 7/12, more than 159 million Americans are fully vaccinated.

Out of that 159 million, 5,492 have been hospitalized or died with Covid. (Not all of those people were symptomatic, some just tested positive. But let's look at the worst case scenario.)

That's about 35 people out of every 1 MILLION vaccinated ends up in the hospital or dies of Covid (and this is generous, as all those people reported to the CDC didn't die of Covid).

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

More than acceptable risk. So we don't need mask mandates or lockdowns or restrictions again. Good.

You “prolifers” sure are cavalier with other people’s lives.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I...dealing with a variant that is 1000x more powerful and transmissible.

Really? 1,000 times more powerful? There's absolutely no evidence that it's even 1x more powerful. In fact, if you follow the case and hospitalization rates in UK, it isn't even close to being as impactful as prior experiences.

DP. Not sure that I’d say it’s 1000 times more powerful, but it’s definitely far more powerful. Quit pretending.