This is a blue state bug (for now at least)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s an interesting dynamic. My husband’s cousin who refused to get vaccinated (because ya know, the gubmint wants him to) is moving south from New England to Florida where they can be around more like minded people (and enjoy the sunshine and less taxes to be fair.) We really could end up with diseased states that involve a travel warning about various Health issues and healthy states.

Do people in Florida really think the snowbirds will flock there in 2022 if they don't get the virus under control there?

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Oh they’re 100% trying to fck over America in order to fck over the Democrats. In addition to being fascists and traitors to their country, they’re also complete psychopaths.

[Anonymous]

I’m probably shouting into the wind here, but yet again the big barrier to vaccination is income, not party affiliation:

https://www.axios.com/covid-vaccines-low-income-poor-workers-58698275-0451-4158-a967-37189dbf673c.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m probably shouting into the wind here, but yet again the big barrier to vaccination is income, not party affiliation:

https://www.axios.com/covid-vaccines-low-income-poor-workers-58698275-0451-4158-a967-37189dbf673c.html

I don't think low income is the cause for low vaccinations rates...at least not in the way the article suggests. The article suggests that low-income Americans want to get the vaccine, but have problems getting it and I don't think that's case. I grew up poor/low income and I'm still very close to family and friends that would fall in that category. When I discuss vaccines with family and friends, it's not lack of access that keeps them from getting the vaccinated, it's purely a lack of want-to.

At first I was shocked by the reluctance, but now I'm not even surprised when some one from back home says that haven't gotten or aren't getting vaccine. At best, they'll say "I don't know about it...". They don't trust the vaccine or have doubts about the vaccine based on nothing more than the continued recycling of bad information within the community. Grocery stores, drug stores, medical clinics/hospitals are all offering the vaccine for free and getting one is easier than picking up something from the store. I don't want to draw correlations between low income and low-education (or intelligence) because I don't that's quite fair. However, many of the ones that are low income because of some of their own personal choices are the same people refusing to get vaccines.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m probably shouting into the wind here, but yet again the big barrier to vaccination is income, not party affiliation:

https://www.axios.com/covid-vaccines-low-income-poor-workers-58698275-0451-4158-a967-37189dbf673c.html

I don't think low income is the cause for low vaccinations rates...at least not in the way the article suggests. The article suggests that low-income Americans want to get the vaccine, but have problems getting it and I don't think that's case. I grew up poor/low income and I'm still very close to family and friends that would fall in that category. When I discuss vaccines with family and friends, it's not lack of access that keeps them from getting the vaccinated, it's purely a lack of want-to.

At first I was shocked by the reluctance, but now I'm not even surprised when some one from back home says that haven't gotten or aren't getting vaccine. At best, they'll say "I don't know about it...". They don't trust the vaccine or have doubts about the vaccine based on nothing more than the continued recycling of bad information within the community. Grocery stores, drug stores, medical clinics/hospitals are all offering the vaccine for free and getting one is easier than picking up something from the store. I don't want to draw correlations between low income and low-education (or intelligence) because I don't that's quite fair. However, many of the ones that are low income because of some of their own personal choices are the same people refusing to get vaccines.

You might be right. The article, I'm pretty sure, aims at what well-off, powerful people can or should do to reduce the disparity. Even if it has that right, lots of people will still not get it.

The political narrative does seem tired to many of us. Especially when every deep blue city or deep blue state has vast pockets of low vaccination rates and those pockets are so reliably low-income.

[Anonymous]

NP. If the Biden administration wants the GQP deadenders to get vaccinated, the solution is reverse psychology: Announce that we don’t want to force anyone to get it, and that henceforth, the federal govt will spend time and money helping distribute the vaccine in only those (Blue) regions that want it. If people from Red regions want the vaccine, they’ll have to travel farther to go to a Blue area that wants it. You’ll immediately see all the GQPers and FoxNews people go apeshit clamoring that they’re being denied healthcare and saying they want the vaccine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m probably shouting into the wind here, but yet again the big barrier to vaccination is income, not party affiliation:

https://www.axios.com/covid-vaccines-low-income-poor-workers-58698275-0451-4158-a967-37189dbf673c.html

I don't think low income is the cause for low vaccinations rates...at least not in the way the article suggests. The article suggests that low-income Americans want to get the vaccine, but have problems getting it and I don't think that's case. I grew up poor/low income and I'm still very close to family and friends that would fall in that category. When I discuss vaccines with family and friends, it's not lack of access that keeps them from getting the vaccinated, it's purely a lack of want-to.

At first I was shocked by the reluctance, but now I'm not even surprised when some one from back home says that haven't gotten or aren't getting vaccine. At best, they'll say "I don't know about it...". They don't trust the vaccine or have doubts about the vaccine based on nothing more than the continued recycling of bad information within the community. Grocery stores, drug stores, medical clinics/hospitals are all offering the vaccine for free and getting one is easier than picking up something from the store. I don't want to draw correlations between low income and low-education (or intelligence) because I don't that's quite fair. However, many of the ones that are low income because of some of their own personal choices are the same people refusing to get vaccines.

You might be right. The article, I'm pretty sure, aims at what well-off, powerful people can or should do to reduce the disparity. Even if it has that right, lots of people will still not get it.

The political narrative does seem tired to many of us. Especially when every deep blue city or deep blue state has vast pockets of low vaccination rates and those pockets are so reliably low-income.

I think both camps (R covid/vax deniers and low income in blue areas) don't trust the government.

The difference is that I think generally low income folks in blue areas take covid seriously with mask wearing and social distancing, whereas Rs still don't believe covid is a big deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Oh they’re 100% trying to fck over America in order to fck over the Democrats. In addition to being fascists and traitors to their country, they’re also complete psychopaths.

That's what these purely political people do.

Dems swore up and down there would be no vaccine for years, and even if so why trust one developed under Trump (Kamala Harris comes to mind), now it's the reverse.

They switched places on it.

Don't pay any attention to politicians on your health decisions, they'll say whatever works for them/their party at that moment.

[Anonymous]

"Dems" didn't swear it.

The scientists said it would take more than a year to get it into arms.

Yes, Trump did OWS. But any president would have done that.

What Trump didn't do was message tactics to keep people safe in the meantime. He also never established and implemented a testing and tracing protocol. He also never invoked the Defense Production Act to get the distribution and manufacturing aligned and optimized.

He pitted states and localities against each other and took tribute for priority distribution to individuals.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

that's heartbreaking. Hindsight is always 20/20, unfortunately.

I wonder if the girl has any other pre-existing conditions. It seems that almost all the kids who get severe symptoms have some other pre-existing condition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

that's heartbreaking. Hindsight is always 20/20, unfortunately.

I wonder if the girl has any other pre-existing conditions. It seems that almost all the kids who get severe symptoms have some other pre-existing condition.

That just makes it more urgent for them to get vaccinated, and everyone around them, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

that's heartbreaking. Hindsight is always 20/20, unfortunately.

I wonder if the girl has any other pre-existing conditions. It seems that almost all the kids who get severe symptoms have some other pre-existing condition.

That just makes it more urgent for them to get vaccinated, and everyone around them, too.

completely agree. Really sad that the parents don't take this seriously.

Rs like to blame poor parenting as the reason why certain groups of kids don't do well in school. But, I'm sure not getting the vax for your child who has pre-existing conditions is different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

that's heartbreaking. Hindsight is always 20/20, unfortunately.

I wonder if the girl has any other pre-existing conditions. It seems that almost all the kids who get severe symptoms have some other pre-existing condition.

Unfortunately, lots of parents of kids don't realize that their kid has a pre-existing condition because it hasn't manifested itself yet into a serious incident. In normal times, a kid would have a non-lethal health scare and the pre-existing condition would be diagnosed.

Also, look at the deaths among children in Brazil. Huge surge of deaths and hospitalizations of kids, based on their local variant. Pray to god that variant doesn't spread widely in the US because it will hit our kids hard.