The Rush to Judge Ilhan Omar

[jsteele]

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Oh my God, make it stop. Or at least Nancy, make it stop. Here is latest tweet, after being heavily criticized about the way she characterized 9/11:

“The people — and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon!” President George W. Bush

Was Bush downplaying the terrorist attack?

What if he was a Muslim?

What is wrong with that tweet? Omar was not downplaying 9/11, but her critics are downplaying the increased Islamophobia that grew out of 9/11. Why aren't Republicans supporting aid to the 9/11 responders who are suffering tragic health consequences? If you are really concerned with 9/11, you should be attacking Republicans instead of Omar (who is a co-sponsor of the bill).

Americans don't like to hear 9/11 characterized as "some people did something." Was she afraid to offend her Muslim audience? No one needed her to call it "the deadliest terror act in the history of the world." She could have just said "9/11."

President Bush made this statement days after World Trade Center was reduced to rubble. We didn't yet know who was responsible. You don't see a false equivalency?

Omar is 1 of the 142 out of 435 members in the House who are co-sponsors of the bill, though one does not need to be a co-sponsor of the bill to support it. I don't know why there are so many Democrats and Republicans who not co-sponsoring, but it leads me to wonder what is in it that is giving a third of them pause. Jon Stewart, who hates Trump, praised the Trump administration last month for how it was handling the 9/11 Victim Compensation Fund.

Omar has called for the complete defunding of the Department of Homeland Security, which was created to protect the United States after the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

You are not the spokesperson for Americans and your suggestion that Omar is not American is exactly the sort of Islamophobia she was speaking about. How telling that Omar has shown more support for 9/11 victims than most members of Congress, but instead of praising her for it, you suggest it is actually a suspicious action. If Jon Stewart's stamp of approval for you is so important, he was at the unveiling of the bill that Omar is co-sponsoring:

https://www.thenationalherald.com/232414/bipartisan-legislation-unveiled-for-9-11-victim-compensation-fund-act-authorization/

Maybe you should direct some of you attention to Dan Crenshaw who couldn't even find the time to meet with a NYFD firefighter to discuss the bill?

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-texas-republican-ilhan-omar-fdny-firefighter-attack-20190411-qs7sbccinbd4zhirps2d7g6wpm-story.html

Where did I suggest that she is not an American? Where did I express suspicion? Are you perhaps replying to the wrong comment?

See the bolded above. That's where you suggested both of those things. Maybe you didn't read your own post?

If a speaker addressed a room of women as "gals," and I said, "Women don't like to be called 'gals,' would I be suggesting the speaker was not a woman herself?

Re: the bill. I'm not saying there's something suspicious about her support of it. Rather, I do not know everything in the bill and sometimes, extra things are added into a bill that change what would seem to be a no brainer into a bill that a member cannot sign onto. This may apply here since the 9/11 victims fund seems to be something every Congressperson would want to cosponsor, yet 2/3, both Democrats and Republicans, are not.

Why would you choose to tell a woman how a group of women like to be addressed? The speaker is a woman herself and, presumably, has some insight into how women like to be addressed. Moreover, there is a whole room full of women fully capable of speaking for themselves. Did they ask you to speak for them?

Omar is an American who was in fact speaking to a room full of Americans. If those Americans didn't like her words, they could have let her know. There are plenty of Americans who fully agree with her. None of us asked you to speak for us.

Given that you have plenty of time to criticize Ilhan Omar who has co-sponsored a bill supported by both Democrats and Republicans, maybe you could spend a few minutes researching the bill. Then, perhaps, you will find it within you to praise Omar and criticize Crenshaw. Otherwise we might get the idea that you are not really that concerned about 9/11 beyond using it to club your political enemies.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:There really is no defending Omar’s disgusting statement essentially diminishing and dismissing 9/11:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ilhan-omar-under-fire-after-describing-9-11-terror-attacks-as-some-people-did-something

I lost a family member in NYC during the TERRORIST attack.

She has no clue and is an embarrassment.

God save America from the crazies.

What does this mean for the Muslims who died in (or survived) 9-11?

https://www.thoughtco.com/muslim-victims-of-911-attack-2004638

The list of names is included in this article.

Among the many victims of 9/11 were several dozen innocent Muslims, ranging in age from their late 60s to a couple’s unborn child. Many were stockbrokers or restaurant workers, working in the Twin Towers to earn a living to care for their families, and their numbers included converts and immigrants from over a dozen different countries and the U.S. Some were heroes, including an NYPD cadet and a Marriott hotel worker who sacrificed their lives attempting to rescue others. The Muslim victims were parents to more than 30 children who were left without one or both of their parents.

What does it mean? That they are innocent Americans who need to be saved from radically extreme Muslims. Are you suggesting otherwise?

Don't get your panties in a bunch, you weirdo.

I'm addressing the hypocrisy in her words. She is blaming America for placing Muslims as second-class citizens as she "downgrades" 9-11. Yet she fails to recognize the deaths of Muslims during this attack.

I'm not denying Islamophobia, but she is incredibly divisive in her approach, and she makes destructive generalizations - all while using her public position to push an agenda.

You are missing Omar's point. It doesn't matter if 9/11 was the most massive attack in the history of the world or a minor incident. Neither case justifies blaming all Muslims for it, considering all Muslims as potential terrorists, or downgrading Muslims to second class citizenship.

The topic was brought up about her characterization of 9/11. The context of her point or its validity is irrelevant. So, she's saying Muslims are being blamed for 9/11. What does that have to do with the way "some people did something" sounds to many people? It doesn't provide a meaningful context that affects the perception of those words.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

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I didn't "miss" her point. I understand Islamophobia better than most. I even wrote that I'm "NOT denying" it exists.

However, as a public figure, her hasty tweets negatively characterize her. What she fails to understand at the "ripe age" of 37 is the responsible use of social media. Scan her twitter. It's negative. She's combative. She addresses topics that while important, aren't necessarily those that represent all of her constituents. So psychologically, people are going to be defensive.

And guess what? News sources EAT that sh*t up! So one negative tweet can be resurrected for months, staining a person's reputation. She's not smart in choosing her words - and there seems to be a lot of that around, which is frightening.

You are yourself engaging in an effort to mischaracterize Omar's words and yet you act like this is all her fault (being enabled by the media). Her discussion of Islamophobia following 9/11 did not take place on Twitter. Anything she says is going to be taken out of context and mischaracterized by those who see her as a threat. If you are concerned about her reputation, you should direct your efforts to ending the baseless attacks on her.

Her 9-11 comments were shared at CAIR, which was founded in 1994 by the way. So again, if you're going to talk the talk, get your facts straight.

I don't disagree with some of her thoughts. I understand her views on Israel. I know quite a bit about AIPAC's role. I am no stranger to Islam. And while I'm appalled (and frightened) by death threats, the tension in the US right now is thick and dangerous. So I have NO idea what you expect me to do in directing my "efforts to ending the baseless attacks on her."

A divided country needs healing through diplomacy - not through hasty tweets.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:There really is no defending Omar’s disgusting statement essentially diminishing and dismissing 9/11:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ilhan-omar-under-fire-after-describing-9-11-terror-attacks-as-some-people-did-something

I lost a family member in NYC during the TERRORIST attack.

She has no clue and is an embarrassment.

God save America from the crazies.

What does this mean for the Muslims who died in (or survived) 9-11?

https://www.thoughtco.com/muslim-victims-of-911-attack-2004638

The list of names is included in this article.

Among the many victims of 9/11 were several dozen innocent Muslims, ranging in age from their late 60s to a couple’s unborn child. Many were stockbrokers or restaurant workers, working in the Twin Towers to earn a living to care for their families, and their numbers included converts and immigrants from over a dozen different countries and the U.S. Some were heroes, including an NYPD cadet and a Marriott hotel worker who sacrificed their lives attempting to rescue others. The Muslim victims were parents to more than 30 children who were left without one or both of their parents.

What does it mean? That they are innocent Americans who need to be saved from radically extreme Muslims. Are you suggesting otherwise?

Don't get your panties in a bunch, you weirdo.

I'm addressing the hypocrisy in her words. She is blaming America for placing Muslims as second-class citizens as she "downgrades" 9-11. Yet she fails to recognize the deaths of Muslims during this attack.

I'm not denying Islamophobia, but she is incredibly divisive in her approach, and she makes destructive generalizations - all while using her public position to push an agenda.

You are missing Omar's point. It doesn't matter if 9/11 was the most massive attack in the history of the world or a minor incident. Neither case justifies blaming all Muslims for it, considering all Muslims as potential terrorists, or downgrading Muslims to second class citizenship.

The topic was brought up about her characterization of 9/11. The context of her point or its validity is irrelevant. So, she's saying Muslims are being blamed for 9/11. What does that have to do with the way "some people did something" sounds to many people? It doesn't provide a meaningful context that affects the perception of those words.

The consequences of the rise of Islamophobia after 9/11 -- which included people getting killed -- are far more important than how Omar characterized the event. The fact that you consider the validity of her point to be irrelevant is very telling. You simply don't care about the rise of Islamophobia and are happy to find a way to draw attention away from it with attacks on Omar.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I didn't "miss" her point. I understand Islamophobia better than most. I even wrote that I'm "NOT denying" it exists.

However, as a public figure, her hasty tweets negatively characterize her. What she fails to understand at the "ripe age" of 37 is the responsible use of social media. Scan her twitter. It's negative. She's combative. She addresses topics that while important, aren't necessarily those that represent all of her constituents. So psychologically, people are going to be defensive.

And guess what? News sources EAT that sh*t up! So one negative tweet can be resurrected for months, staining a person's reputation. She's not smart in choosing her words - and there seems to be a lot of that around, which is frightening.

You are yourself engaging in an effort to mischaracterize Omar's words and yet you act like this is all her fault (being enabled by the media). Her discussion of Islamophobia following 9/11 did not take place on Twitter. Anything she says is going to be taken out of context and mischaracterized by those who see her as a threat. If you are concerned about her reputation, you should direct your efforts to ending the baseless attacks on her.

Her 9-11 comments were shared at CAIR, which was founded in 1994 by the way. So again, if you're going to talk the talk, get your facts straight.

I don't disagree with some of her thoughts. I understand her views on Israel. I know quite a bit about AIPAC's role. I am no stranger to Islam. And while I'm appalled (and frightened) by death threats, the tension in the US right now is thick and dangerous. So I have NO idea what you expect me to do in directing my "efforts to ending the baseless attacks on her."

A divided country needs healing through diplomacy - not through hasty tweets.

What facts did I not have straight? I never said anything about when CAIR was founded. The first step you can take toward ending baseless attacks on her is to stop your own attacks of that type. After that, you can help counter the baseless attacks by others.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Oh my God, make it stop. Or at least Nancy, make it stop. Here is latest tweet, after being heavily criticized about the way she characterized 9/11:

“The people — and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon!” President George W. Bush

Was Bush downplaying the terrorist attack?

What if he was a Muslim?

What is wrong with that tweet? Omar was not downplaying 9/11, but her critics are downplaying the increased Islamophobia that grew out of 9/11. Why aren't Republicans supporting aid to the 9/11 responders who are suffering tragic health consequences? If you are really concerned with 9/11, you should be attacking Republicans instead of Omar (who is a co-sponsor of the bill).

Americans don't like to hear 9/11 characterized as "some people did something." Was she afraid to offend her Muslim audience? No one needed her to call it "the deadliest terror act in the history of the world." She could have just said "9/11."

President Bush made this statement days after World Trade Center was reduced to rubble. We didn't yet know who was responsible. You don't see a false equivalency?

Omar is 1 of the 142 out of 435 members in the House who are co-sponsors of the bill, though one does not need to be a co-sponsor of the bill to support it. I don't know why there are so many Democrats and Republicans who not co-sponsoring, but it leads me to wonder what is in it that is giving a third of them pause. Jon Stewart, who hates Trump, praised the Trump administration last month for how it was handling the 9/11 Victim Compensation Fund.

Omar has called for the complete defunding of the Department of Homeland Security, which was created to protect the United States after the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

You are not the spokesperson for Americans and your suggestion that Omar is not American is exactly the sort of Islamophobia she was speaking about. How telling that Omar has shown more support for 9/11 victims than most members of Congress, but instead of praising her for it, you suggest it is actually a suspicious action. If Jon Stewart's stamp of approval for you is so important, he was at the unveiling of the bill that Omar is co-sponsoring:

https://www.thenationalherald.com/232414/bipartisan-legislation-unveiled-for-9-11-victim-compensation-fund-act-authorization/

Maybe you should direct some of you attention to Dan Crenshaw who couldn't even find the time to meet with a NYFD firefighter to discuss the bill?

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-texas-republican-ilhan-omar-fdny-firefighter-attack-20190411-qs7sbccinbd4zhirps2d7g6wpm-story.html

Where did I suggest that she is not an American? Where did I express suspicion? Are you perhaps replying to the wrong comment?

See the bolded above. That's where you suggested both of those things. Maybe you didn't read your own post?

If a speaker addressed a room of women as "gals," and I said, "Women don't like to be called 'gals,' would I be suggesting the speaker was not a woman herself?

Re: the bill. I'm not saying there's something suspicious about her support of it. Rather, I do not know everything in the bill and sometimes, extra things are added into a bill that change what would seem to be a no brainer into a bill that a member cannot sign onto. This may apply here since the 9/11 victims fund seems to be something every Congressperson would want to cosponsor, yet 2/3, both Democrats and Republicans, are not.

Why would you choose to tell a woman how a group of women like to be addressed? Moreover, there is a whole room full of women fully capable of speaking for themselves. Did they ask you to speak for them?

Omar is an American who was in fact speaking to a room full of Americans. If those Americans didn't like her words, they could have let her know. There are plenty of Americans who fully agree with her. None of us asked you to speak for us.

Given that you have plenty of time to criticize Ilhan Omar who has co-sponsored a bill supported by both Democrats and Republicans, maybe you could spend a few minutes researching the bill. Then, perhaps, you will find it within you to praise Omar and criticize Crenshaw. Otherwise we might get the idea that you are not really that concerned about 9/11 beyond using it to club your political enemies.

This is like sticking needles in my eyes, yet here I go. I did not say I would stand up in front of the room and call out the speaker and speak on behalf of all women in the room. I was telling you that by saying "Americans don't like..." I was not saying she is not an American since I believe that's how you understood it. Honest to God, I do not know how you perceived that to be Islamophobic.

Following your logic - "The speaker is a woman herself and, presumably, has some insight into how women like to be addressed" - then as an American, Omar presumably has some insight into how Americans feel about 9/11 and she should understand how insensitively her words may be perceived.

Since you seem to be very up on this bill, perhaps you could just share that information with us. Tell us why the majority are not on board at this point. I can guarantee you, though, that I won't criticize Crenshaw for not doing enough to fight terrorism of any kind.

[Anonymous]

Since you seem to be very up on this bill, perhaps you could just share that information with us. Tell us why the majority are not on board at this point. I can guarantee you, though, that I won't criticize Crenshaw for not doing enough to fight terrorism of any kind.

Is there opposition to the bill? I doubt Crenshaw is opposed to it. AOC was likely looking for something to pin on him. Has the bill been brought to the floor yet?

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There really is no defending Omar’s disgusting statement essentially diminishing and dismissing 9/11:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ilhan-omar-under-fire-after-describing-9-11-terror-attacks-as-some-people-did-something

I lost a family member in NYC during the TERRORIST attack.

She has no clue and is an embarrassment.

God save America from the crazies.

What does this mean for the Muslims who died in (or survived) 9-11?

https://www.thoughtco.com/muslim-victims-of-911-attack-2004638

The list of names is included in this article.

Among the many victims of 9/11 were several dozen innocent Muslims, ranging in age from their late 60s to a couple’s unborn child. Many were stockbrokers or restaurant workers, working in the Twin Towers to earn a living to care for their families, and their numbers included converts and immigrants from over a dozen different countries and the U.S. Some were heroes, including an NYPD cadet and a Marriott hotel worker who sacrificed their lives attempting to rescue others. The Muslim victims were parents to more than 30 children who were left without one or both of their parents.

What does it mean? That they are innocent Americans who need to be saved from radically extreme Muslims. Are you suggesting otherwise?

Don't get your panties in a bunch, you weirdo.

I'm addressing the hypocrisy in her words. She is blaming America for placing Muslims as second-class citizens as she "downgrades" 9-11. Yet she fails to recognize the deaths of Muslims during this attack.

I'm not denying Islamophobia, but she is incredibly divisive in her approach, and she makes destructive generalizations - all while using her public position to push an agenda.

You are missing Omar's point. It doesn't matter if 9/11 was the most massive attack in the history of the world or a minor incident. Neither case justifies blaming all Muslims for it, considering all Muslims as potential terrorists, or downgrading Muslims to second class citizenship.

The topic was brought up about her characterization of 9/11. The context of her point or its validity is irrelevant. So, she's saying Muslims are being blamed for 9/11. What does that have to do with the way "some people did something" sounds to many people? It doesn't provide a meaningful context that affects the perception of those words.

The consequences of the rise of Islamophobia after 9/11 -- which included people getting killed -- are far more important than how Omar characterized the event. The fact that you consider the validity of her point to be irrelevant is very telling. You simply don't care about the rise of Islamophobia and are happy to find a way to draw attention away from it with attacks on Omar.

Talk about mischaracterization of words. I said the validity or context of her point isn't relative to whether or not I, and many others, find her words about 9/11 insensitive and offensive. Yes, Islamophobia is on the rise. Yes, her words are offensive. Putting them in context of her speech does not change that.

"You simply don't care about the rise of Islamophobia." You're too much. If you care so much, why don't you start a topic on this issue instead of criticizing me for not caring?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Since you seem to be very up on this bill, perhaps you could just share that information with us. Tell us why the majority are not on board at this point. I can guarantee you, though, that I won't criticize Crenshaw for not doing enough to fight terrorism of any kind.

Is there opposition to the bill? I doubt Crenshaw is opposed to it. AOC was likely looking for something to pin on him. Has the bill been brought to the floor yet?

I don't know if there is; Jeff can fill us in. 142 House members are co-sponsors. It has not been brought to the floor yet, and co-sponsoring isn't necessary to support it. Jeff, like AOC, is suggesting that since Crenshaw isn't co-sponsoring it, he's not supporting the 9/11 victims.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I didn't "miss" her point. I understand Islamophobia better than most. I even wrote that I'm "NOT denying" it exists.

However, as a public figure, her hasty tweets negatively characterize her. What she fails to understand at the "ripe age" of 37 is the responsible use of social media. Scan her twitter. It's negative. She's combative. She addresses topics that while important, aren't necessarily those that represent all of her constituents. So psychologically, people are going to be defensive.

And guess what? News sources EAT that sh*t up! So one negative tweet can be resurrected for months, staining a person's reputation. She's not smart in choosing her words - and there seems to be a lot of that around, which is frightening.

You are yourself engaging in an effort to mischaracterize Omar's words and yet you act like this is all her fault (being enabled by the media). Her discussion of Islamophobia following 9/11 did not take place on Twitter. Anything she says is going to be taken out of context and mischaracterized by those who see her as a threat. If you are concerned about her reputation, you should direct your efforts to ending the baseless attacks on her.

Her 9-11 comments were shared at CAIR, which was founded in 1994 by the way. So again, if you're going to talk the talk, get your facts straight.

I don't disagree with some of her thoughts. I understand her views on Israel. I know quite a bit about AIPAC's role. I am no stranger to Islam. And while I'm appalled (and frightened) by death threats, the tension in the US right now is thick and dangerous. So I have NO idea what you expect me to do in directing my "efforts to ending the baseless attacks on her."

A divided country needs healing through diplomacy - not through hasty tweets.

What facts did I not have straight? I never said anything about when CAIR was founded. The first step you can take toward ending baseless attacks on her is to stop your own attacks of that type. After that, you can help counter the baseless attacks by others.

HER statement about CAIR's founding was inaccurate. I hope I cleared that up.

And how am I attacking her? I'm simply stating that I disagree with her approach. This narcissistic use of social media is damaging. And it's widespread.

I agree with this, as it sums up my feelings about REALLY connecting with people as a TRUE leader - https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/11/opinions/pete-buttigieg-cnn-town-hall-delaney-gabbard-louis/index.html

Of the three town hall participants, Buttigieg, the mayor of South Bend, Indiana, seemed to connect best with the crowd. No less an authority than David Axelrod, the manager of President Obama's historic 2008 campaign, said on Twitter that "I have rarely seen a candidate make better use of televised Town Hall than @PeteButtigieg.... Crisp, thoughtful and relatable. He'll be a little less of a long shot tomorrow."

Diplomacy ain't dead with Pete.

So we'll have to agree to disagree.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:Talk about mischaracterization of words. I said the validity or context of her point isn't relative to whether or not I, and many others, find her words about 9/11 insensitive and offensive. Yes, Islamophobia is on the rise. Yes, her words are offensive. Putting them in context of her speech does not change that.

"You simply don't care about the rise of Islamophobia." You're too much. If you care so much, why don't you start a topic on this issue instead of criticizing me for not caring?

I'm the one who started this thread.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Since you seem to be very up on this bill, perhaps you could just share that information with us. Tell us why the majority are not on board at this point. I can guarantee you, though, that I won't criticize Crenshaw for not doing enough to fight terrorism of any kind.

Is there opposition to the bill? I doubt Crenshaw is opposed to it. AOC was likely looking for something to pin on him. Has the bill been brought to the floor yet?

I don't know if there is; Jeff can fill us in. 142 House members are co-sponsors. It has not been brought to the floor yet, and co-sponsoring isn't necessary to support it. Jeff, like AOC, is suggesting that since Crenshaw isn't co-sponsoring it, he's not supporting the 9/11 victims.

See this article to which I linked earlier:

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-texas-republican-ilhan-omar-fdny-firefighter-attack-20190411-qs7sbccinbd4zhirps2d7g6wpm-story.html

"A retired FDNY firefighter who survived 9/11 said Thursday he was recently snubbed by Dan Crenshaw..."

"But the Republican lawmaker claimed he was “too busy” and said his office would reach out, according to Serra.
Two weeks later, Serra hasn’t heard from Crenshaw, who has yet to throw his support behind renewing the VCF."

“He really didn’t want to talk to us,” Serra, 39, told The News over the phone. “He said he didn’t have any information and that his staff would take care of it.”

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Talk about mischaracterization of words. I said the validity or context of her point isn't relative to whether or not I, and many others, find her words about 9/11 insensitive and offensive. Yes, Islamophobia is on the rise. Yes, her words are offensive. Putting them in context of her speech does not change that.

"You simply don't care about the rise of Islamophobia." You're too much. If you care so much, why don't you start a topic on this issue instead of criticizing me for not caring?

I'm the one who started this thread.

Why do you keep pushing me to focus on Islamophobia instead of her 9/11 comments/tweet? If you wanted me to start a new topic, just say so. I brought the tweet up here since you deleted the more recent one and I decided you were trying to consolidate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Talk about mischaracterization of words. I said the validity or context of her point isn't relative to whether or not I, and many others, find her words about 9/11 insensitive and offensive. Yes, Islamophobia is on the rise. Yes, her words are offensive. Putting them in context of her speech does not change that.

"You simply don't care about the rise of Islamophobia." You're too much. If you care so much, why don't you start a topic on this issue instead of criticizing me for not caring?

I'm the one who started this thread.

Why do you keep pushing me to focus on Islamophobia instead of her 9/11 comments/tweet? If you wanted me to start a new topic, just say so. I brought the tweet up here since you deleted the more recent one and I decided you were trying to consolidate.

What was the topic of her speech? What was the context of those comments?

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Talk about mischaracterization of words. I said the validity or context of her point isn't relative to whether or not I, and many others, find her words about 9/11 insensitive and offensive. Yes, Islamophobia is on the rise. Yes, her words are offensive. Putting them in context of her speech does not change that.

"You simply don't care about the rise of Islamophobia." You're too much. If you care so much, why don't you start a topic on this issue instead of criticizing me for not caring?

I'm the one who started this thread.

Why do you keep pushing me to focus on Islamophobia instead of her 9/11 comments/tweet? If you wanted me to start a new topic, just say so. I brought the tweet up here since you deleted the more recent one and I decided you were trying to consolidate.

Islamophobia was the point of her remarks. You are ignoring her point to focus on semantics. You could read her whole statement and then characterize her words as "It was unfair that all Muslims were blamed for 9/11" or you could say "she described 9/11 as some 'people doing something'". Which way you choose says a lot about you and your priorities.