NYT and WaPo report Biden is close to stepping down

[Anonymous]

What I honestly can’t get over is how anyone is actually surprised that Biden performed so badly in the debate. They seem genuinely shocked at the decline, even though it’s been obvious to many of us for a really long time. He does things like read, “Pause for applause” when he’s reading the teleprompter, and he needs a cheat sheet with pre-approved answers along with helpful photos of reporters on the rare occasions when he does a press conference, and that’s been going on for years! How can anyone think he’s all there? I thought the shock and outrage was fake at first but it does seem genuine, so I’m just completely confused over here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No, we're realists! And certainly not extreme left.

AOC and Sanders are supporting Biden because they think they can squeeze concesssions out of him during his second term, or failing that, they think they'll do great as opposition leaders if Trump is President. What they fear most is a center-left Democrat winning the White House and stifling the progressive Left once again.

I seriously cannot understand how you're not seeing that Biden has ZERO chance of winning right now. Harris has a non-nil chance. We have to take it. It's our only hope.

Supporting Biden at this stage mean you're fine with a Trump presidency.

So yes, pardon me, but any "Biden supporter" is either a secret Trump supporter or a delusional moron.

Realists knew Biden's mental faculties were declining before he even took the nomination in 2020. Dems just like to move with their herd. Dems understand that they're smarter than the rubes in flyover country, so they'll do whatever the media tells them to avoid being lumped in with the flyover folks. It's vanity pure and simple.

It's also comically naive because no one who was paying attention thought Biden was anything other than an ever-declining husk.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so exhausted by this news cycle. Biden seems to be digging in inexplicably. Just step down man and take a nice vacation! I can't take this anymore.

Why shouldn't Trump do this. He's just as old and delusional and really likes to golf and winter in Florida! He's the ideal retirement candidate.

Stop whatabouting. Just stop.
Trump is no spring chicken but Biden has crossed that line from old to “too old”. He seems feeble and weak. He seems confused.

Trump surviving the assasination attempt has catapulted him to look “strong”. Biden cant compete with that. He can barely walk up steps.

I hate trump with every fiber of my being but Biden has to acknowledge he is winning zero independents with this perception and losing dems who are not enthusiastic and will stay home. NJ is in play for Gods sake. NJ!!

Did you watch Trump's speech last night? He sounded not only old, but stupid and insane, as always. Biden had a bad debate. Fine. He's still mentally sharper than Trump. And regardless, despite what a couple of people on this thread think, no one wants President Harris.

Trump is old and much slower than he was. Heck, the Republicans even highlighted Trump's decline by showing the famous Oprah interview Trump gave decades ago about running for president.

But the idea that Biden is "mentally sharper than Trump" is so delusional as to make me worry you're off your meds. Even the media is finally fessing up to Biden's decomposition. Trump ain't great (compare with JD Vance's ability to speak), but he's miles better than Joe.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so exhausted by this news cycle. Biden seems to be digging in inexplicably. Just step down man and take a nice vacation! I can't take this anymore.

Why shouldn't Trump do this. He's just as old and delusional and really likes to golf and winter in Florida! He's the ideal retirement candidate.

Stop whatabouting. Just stop.
Trump is no spring chicken but Biden has crossed that line from old to “too old”. He seems feeble and weak. He seems confused.

Trump surviving the assasination attempt has catapulted him to look “strong”. Biden cant compete with that. He can barely walk up steps.

I hate trump with every fiber of my being but Biden has to acknowledge he is winning zero independents with this perception and losing dems who are not enthusiastic and will stay home. NJ is in play for Gods sake. NJ!!

Did you watch Trump's speech last night? He sounded not only old, but stupid and insane, as always. Biden had a bad debate. Fine. He's still mentally sharper than Trump. And regardless, despite what a couple of people on this thread think, no one wants President Harris.

Trump is old and much slower than he was. Heck, the Republicans even highlighted Trump's decline by showing the famous Oprah interview Trump gave decades ago about running for president.

But the idea that Biden is "mentally sharper than Trump" is so delusional as to make me worry you're off your meds. Even the media is finally fessing up to Biden's decomposition. Trump ain't great (compare with JD Vance's ability to speak), but he's miles better than Joe.

I agree. Democrats can do nothing about the fact that conservatism is unable to surgically remove its Trump parasite. The GOP is now a MAGA zombie. All the never Trumpers have fled the party.

But Democrats can do BETTER than the GOP, and surgically remove Biden. He's a nice guy, unlike Trump, but he's even more physically impaired, which is saying something!

Harris 2024. We can do it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What I honestly can’t get over is how anyone is actually surprised that Biden performed so badly in the debate. They seem genuinely shocked at the decline, even though it’s been obvious to many of us for a really long time. He does things like read, “Pause for applause” when he’s reading the teleprompter, and he needs a cheat sheet with pre-approved answers along with helpful photos of reporters on the rare occasions when he does a press conference, and that’s been going on for years! How can anyone think he’s all there? I thought the shock and outrage was fake at first but it does seem genuine, so I’m just completely confused over here.

I don’t watch any of his speeches or press conferences. Probably most people don’t. I just hear sound bites on TV or radio which usually highlight his better moments.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so exhausted by this news cycle. Biden seems to be digging in inexplicably. Just step down man and take a nice vacation! I can't take this anymore.

Why shouldn't Trump do this. He's just as old and delusional and really likes to golf and winter in Florida! He's the ideal retirement candidate.

Stop whatabouting. Just stop.
Trump is no spring chicken but Biden has crossed that line from old to “too old”. He seems feeble and weak. He seems confused.

Trump surviving the assasination attempt has catapulted him to look “strong”. Biden cant compete with that. He can barely walk up steps.

I hate trump with every fiber of my being but Biden has to acknowledge he is winning zero independents with this perception and losing dems who are not enthusiastic and will stay home. NJ is in play for Gods sake. NJ!!

Did you watch Trump's speech last night? He sounded not only old, but stupid and insane, as always. Biden had a bad debate. Fine. He's still mentally sharper than Trump. And regardless, despite what a couple of people on this thread think, no one wants President Harris.

Trump is old and much slower than he was. Heck, the Republicans even highlighted Trump's decline by showing the famous Oprah interview Trump gave decades ago about running for president.

But the idea that Biden is "mentally sharper than Trump" is so delusional as to make me worry you're off your meds. Even the media is finally fessing up to Biden's decomposition. Trump ain't great (compare with JD Vance's ability to speak), but he's miles better than Joe.

I agree. Democrats can do nothing about the fact that conservatism is unable to surgically remove its Trump parasite. The GOP is now a MAGA zombie. All the never Trumpers have fled the party.

But Democrats can do BETTER than the GOP, and surgically remove Biden. He's a nice guy, unlike Trump, but he's even more physically impaired, which is saying something!

Harris 2024. We can do it.

How?

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I have to believe that the posters who are still adamant that Biden needs to keep running are either:

1. Republicans or foreign agents supporting Trump.

or

2. Biden's inner circle who unaccountably posts here.

Because no one else in their right mind thinks a confused, stumbling and memory-impaired oldie is the best person to confront Trump (himself memory-impaired and confused, but also vindictive and punitive).

This is so easy: Harris is the consensus candidate, she's young, energetic and articulate. She's also a woman with mixed ethnic roots.

I mean, she's the ideal candidate!


Were it not for misogyny and racism... sigh.

Really? If you go to Reddit, where you get a much better sense of poster’s views, it seems to be mainstream dems who want him to stay in the race. They are also really concerned about potential challenges to ballot changes in red states with Trump judges.

Those who want him to drop are idealized leftists who haven’t been burned in an election.

Republicans don’t appt there; harder to fake views because you can see their comment history.

No, we're realists! And certainly not extreme left.

AOC and Sanders are supporting Biden because they think they can squeeze concesssions out of him during his second term, or failing that, they think they'll do great as opposition leaders if Trump is President. What they fear most is a center-left Democrat winning the White House and stifling the progressive Left once again.

I seriously cannot understand how you're not seeing that Biden has ZERO chance of winning right now. Harris has a non-nil chance. We have to take it. It's our only hope.

Supporting Biden at this stage mean you're fine with a Trump presidency.

So yes, pardon me, but any "Biden supporter" is either a secret Trump supporter or a delusional moron.

They call themselves leftist on Reddit; I am using their own term to describe them. I say idealized because in my experience, they are typically young and weren’t around for 2000 or 2016.

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I have to believe that the posters who are still adamant that Biden needs to keep running are either:

1. Republicans or foreign agents supporting Trump.

or

2. Biden's inner circle who unaccountably posts here.

Because no one else in their right mind thinks a confused, stumbling and memory-impaired oldie is the best person to confront Trump (himself memory-impaired and confused, but also vindictive and punitive).

This is so easy: Harris is the consensus candidate, she's young, energetic and articulate. She's also a woman with mixed ethnic roots.

I mean, she's the ideal candidate!


Were it not for misogyny and racism... sigh.

Really? If you go to Reddit, where you get a much better sense of poster’s views, it seems to be mainstream dems who want him to stay in the race. They are also really concerned about potential challenges to ballot changes in red states with Trump judges.

Those who want him to drop are idealized leftists who haven’t been burned in an election.

Republicans don’t appt there; harder to fake views because you can see their comment history.

No, we're realists! And certainly not extreme left.

AOC and Sanders are supporting Biden because they think they can squeeze concesssions out of him during his second term, or failing that, they think they'll do great as opposition leaders if Trump is President. What they fear most is a center-left Democrat winning the White House and stifling the progressive Left once again.

I seriously cannot understand how you're not seeing that Biden has ZERO chance of winning right now. Harris has a non-nil chance. We have to take it. It's our only hope.

Supporting Biden at this stage mean you're fine with a Trump presidency.

So yes, pardon me, but any "Biden supporter" is either a secret Trump supporter or a delusional moron.

They call themselves leftist on Reddit; I am using their own term to describe them. I say idealized because in my experience, they are typically young and weren’t around for 2000 or 2016.

Just checked out reddit. Its overwhelmingly “time to go, Joe” today.

Its not just a “leftist” faction

[Anonymous]

Realists knew Biden's mental faculties were declining before he even took the nomination in 2020. Dems just like to move with their herd. Dems understand that they're smarter than the rubes in flyover country

This is very well-said. It’s why there was such schadenfreude involved when Trump easily beat Hillary. The Dems were so sure of the outcome…or what they thought it would be!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
I have to believe that the posters who are still adamant that Biden needs to keep running are either:

1. Republicans or foreign agents supporting Trump.

or

2. Biden's inner circle who unaccountably posts here.

Because no one else in their right mind thinks a confused, stumbling and memory-impaired oldie is the best person to confront Trump (himself memory-impaired and confused, but also vindictive and punitive).

This is so easy: Harris is the consensus candidate, she's young, energetic and articulate. She's also a woman with mixed ethnic roots.

I mean, she's the ideal candidate!


Were it not for misogyny and racism... sigh.

Really? If you go to Reddit, where you get a much better sense of poster’s views, it seems to be mainstream dems who want him to stay in the race. They are also really concerned about potential challenges to ballot changes in red states with Trump judges.

Those who want him to drop are idealized leftists who haven’t been burned in an election.

Republicans don’t appt there; harder to fake views because you can see their comment history.

No, we're realists! And certainly not extreme left.

AOC and Sanders are supporting Biden because they think they can squeeze concesssions out of him during his second term, or failing that, they think they'll do great as opposition leaders if Trump is President. What they fear most is a center-left Democrat winning the White House and stifling the progressive Left once again.

I seriously cannot understand how you're not seeing that Biden has ZERO chance of winning right now. Harris has a non-nil chance. We have to take it. It's our only hope.

Supporting Biden at this stage mean you're fine with a Trump presidency.

So yes, pardon me, but any "Biden supporter" is either a secret Trump supporter or a delusional moron.

They call themselves leftist on Reddit; I am using their own term to describe them. I say idealized because in my experience, they are typically young and weren’t around for 2000 or 2016.

Just checked out reddit. Its overwhelmingly “time to go, Joe” today.

Its not just a “leftist” faction

Which subreddit?

[Anonymous]

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Really? If you go to Reddit, where you get a much better sense of poster’s views, it seems to be mainstream dems who want him to stay in the race. They are also really concerned about potential challenges to ballot changes in red states with Trump judges.

What did Heritage actually say? All this talk of no ballot changes-- there hasn't been a convention, thus no nominee and thus no name on a ballot. There is nothing that needs to be changed at this point.

[Anonymous]

I’m so pissed off at Joe! We are absolutely going to lose, aren’t we?

What a selfish decision by Joe & Co. He has a 30% approval rating, and blue states are now in play!

And, yes, I’m a Black woman who wants to vote for someone under 60, FFS! 70, even! I’m so tired of hearing that Black people want Joe. No one asked me.

I’ll never forgive Joe for this selfish BS.

[NP]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I have to believe that the posters who are still adamant that Biden needs to keep running are either:

1. Republicans or foreign agents supporting Trump.

or

2. Biden's inner circle who unaccountably posts here.

Because no one else in their right mind thinks a confused, stumbling and memory-impaired oldie is the best person to confront Trump (himself memory-impaired and confused, but also vindictive and punitive).

This is so easy: Harris is the consensus candidate, she's young, energetic and articulate. She's also a woman with mixed ethnic roots.

I mean, she's the ideal candidate!


Were it not for misogyny and racism... sigh.

Really? If you go to Reddit, where you get a much better sense of poster’s views, it seems to be mainstream dems who want him to stay in the race. They are also really concerned about potential challenges to ballot changes in red states with Trump judges.

Those who want him to drop are idealized leftists who haven’t been burned in an election.

Republicans don’t appt there; harder to fake views because you can see their comment history.

No, we're realists! And certainly not extreme left.

AOC and Sanders are supporting Biden because they think they can squeeze concesssions out of him during his second term, or failing that, they think they'll do great as opposition leaders if Trump is President. What they fear most is a center-left Democrat winning the White House and stifling the progressive Left once again.

I seriously cannot understand how you're not seeing that Biden has ZERO chance of winning right now. Harris has a non-nil chance. We have to take it. It's our only hope.

Supporting Biden at this stage mean you're fine with a Trump presidency.

So yes, pardon me, but any "Biden supporter" is either a secret Trump supporter or a delusional moron.

They call themselves leftist on Reddit; I am using their own term to describe them. I say idealized because in my experience, they are typically young and weren’t around for 2000 or 2016.

Just checked out reddit. Its overwhelmingly “time to go, Joe” today.

Its not just a “leftist” faction

Which subreddit?

Yes, which sub, PP?

r/joebiden is all in, unfortunately.

[Anonymous]

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Really? If you go to Reddit, where you get a much better sense of poster’s views, it seems to be mainstream dems who want him to stay in the race. They are also really concerned about potential challenges to ballot changes in red states with Trump judges.

What did Heritage actually say? All this talk of no ballot changes-- there hasn't been a convention, thus no nominee and thus no name on a ballot. There is nothing that needs to be changed at this point.

I think the Heritage conclusions were pointed at Trump. He can’t be removed now.