Woman charged with felony for having a stillbirth

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t “don’t flush a corpse” common knowledge? I mean it’s not a goldfish it’s a human.

My “common knowledge “ doesn’t cover miscarriages or stillbirths outside of a hospital setting.
Since yours apparently does, please describe, in as detailed a way as you can manage, what exactly “common knowledge “ would have someone do in this situation.

I would probably call 911 and ask for help, and follow their instructions. But I get that after going through something traumatic and being turned away from from the hospital, the poor woman was in shock, and didn’t know what to do.

Really, common sense doesn’t tell you not to add a dead baby to the public water supply? It was apparently large enough that she tried plunging it and it didn’t go down so we’re not talking about just a large glob of cells…

Everyone flushes their miscarriage if it happens at home.

Do you think there is a clear toilet bowl so you can see what came out? You’re talking about a bowl of blood with something under it invisible to the eye.

Why didn’t a doctor extract the non viable fetus to avoid a catastrophic episode in this persons life like a normal stillborn/miscarriage?

Um, a 22-week fetus is a baby. It looks exactly like a baby. I held my 20-week old babies in my arms for an hour while they lived and breathed. You people who think they are a "glob of cells" are complete idiots.

Umm you have no idea when the fetus stopped growing. Yes she Carrie’s it for 20 weeks or whatever but that doesn’t mean it grew until that point.

Also her fetus may have had abnormalities and been deformed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She is not being charged with having a stillborn. She is being charged for abuse of a corpse for leaving the dead baby in the toilet.

Still stupid. She had a miscarriage. The "baby" was never alive. She was probably not feeling great, confused, panicked, etc. There was likely blood, she didn't know what to do. Hell, maybe it was too slippery to pick up. Maybe she felt faint. Why the hell should someone be subjected to criminal prosecution for this?

Because most of the people in this world hate women.

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Anonymous wrote:She is not being charged with having a stillborn. She is being charged for abuse of a corpse for leaving the dead baby in the toilet.

Still stupid. She had a miscarriage. The "baby" was never alive. She was probably not feeling great, confused, panicked, etc. There was likely blood, she didn't know what to do. Hell, maybe it was too slippery to pick up. Maybe she felt faint. Why the hell should someone be subjected to criminal prosecution for this?

Because most of the people in this world hate women.

And women are some of the most viscous. Look at this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:She is not being charged with having a stillborn. She is being charged for abuse of a corpse for leaving the dead baby in the toilet.

Still stupid. She had a miscarriage. The "baby" was never alive. She was probably not feeling great, confused, panicked, etc. There was likely blood, she didn't know what to do. Hell, maybe it was too slippery to pick up. Maybe she felt faint. Why the hell should someone be subjected to criminal prosecution for this?

Because most of the people in this world hate women.

And women are some of the most viscous. Look at this thread.

+1 And I’d like to point out how many posters here and Republican didn’t believe that the pregnant 10-year-old rape victim existed until the rapist showed up on the court docket in Columbus.

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Anonymous wrote:The reality is that the baby was 20 weeks old and she delivered at 22 weeks. At 20 weeks it’s considered a miscarriage at 22 weeks. It’s considered stillborn.

What she flushed was only 20 weeks old.

And had 2 weeks of decomposition.

Please show me proof of this assertion.

The facts of this woman having an already-dead fetus (as testified to in a court of law by the forensic doctor who did the autopsy) falling out of her uterus is not enough proof to prove whatever weirdo point you’re trying to make?

Okay.

Why does it matter to you how much decomposition the dead fetus had when it was expelled from this mother’s body? It was dead already regardless.

It’s 100% relevant if someone is claiming that it had 2 weeks worth of decomposition. If it died right before delivery it would have looked like an actual fetus, not a partially decomposed mess as some are claiming. That matters.

They made it up. No news report says that there were no time line's for the hospital visits.

Of course they did. They’ve fabricated an entire narrative with zero evidence.

Pro tip: if you have to make stuff up to prove your point, you don’t have much of a point.

Compassionate tip: don’t be a ghoul.

This woman lost her child.

Yes. That she flushed down the toilet. Talk about being a ghoul.

You have never had a miscarriage, have you. Or bled profusely into a toilet. Or known what it's like to be scared and alone during a pregnancy crisis. Or had to stick your hand into a toilet bowl filled with disgusting bodily excretions to try to fish out a fetus among the clots and blood and possibly even poop and wet tp. I bet you wouldn't even be brave enough to try to do it if you saw such a horrifying scene.

Spoken like someone else who’s been there. And clearly so many on this thread who have not.

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Anonymous wrote:what is wrong with you people? read the psot. She left the fetus in the toilet "and went about with her life"

do you know how many miscarriages are flushed? at what point does it become a felony? the women of Ohio need to know, since in between getting denied care for their high-risk pregnancies, this may happen.

I flushed my miscarriage down the toilet. Was I not supposed to?

Was it a baby size?

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Anonymous wrote:what is wrong with you people? read the psot. She left the fetus in the toilet "and went about with her life"

do you know how many miscarriages are flushed? at what point does it become a felony? the women of Ohio need to know, since in between getting denied care for their high-risk pregnancies, this may happen.

I flushed my miscarriage down the toilet. Was I not supposed to?

Was it a baby size?

7 lbs, 20 inches? No.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's pretty clear this prosecution is about getting a case on the record that gives personhood to a 2nd trimester fetus.

Yup. So a DEAD second trimester fetus will have more rights to its bodily autonomy than a living human woman. MAGA!

I love all you people coming on here who have never held a second-trimester fetus. Once it is outside the uterus it is no longer a fetus, it is a baby. I held my 22 week baby, the nurse dressed her, and took photos. Yes, that baby is worth the dignity of not being flushed down the toilet. It has nothing to do with being "MAGA," it has to do with being a mother. There is nothing, absolutely nothing, human about flushing a baby down the toilet. You haven't seen a baby outside the uterus at that stage of gestation, so I suggest you keep your small-minded, uninformed opinion to yourself.

Very sorry about your baby. At least you had the luxury of being in a hospital to receive care, painkillers, deliver her on a bed, and where a nurse cleaned and dressed her to give back you to to hold. That is right and proper.

No one sent you home to deliver your preemie into a toilet with the expectations of you having fish it out with your own hand amidst all the blood, clots, uterine tissue, placenta, fecal matter, urine, and toilet paper in the water.

When you've experienced that horror story, without having any spouse or friendly faces next to you to help you out, come back and tell us about how we are all inhuman for supporting a woman who did go through it.

Oh, but they did send me home. Ten hours later when the baby was actually coming, I went back. After dropping a ton of blood in the toilet, experiencing the unbearable pain of childbirth, I still had the wherewithal to go back.

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Anonymous wrote:It's pretty clear this prosecution is about getting a case on the record that gives personhood to a 2nd trimester fetus.

Yup. So a DEAD second trimester fetus will have more rights to its bodily autonomy than a living human woman. MAGA!

I love all you people coming on here who have never held a second-trimester fetus. Once it is outside the uterus it is no longer a fetus, it is a baby. I held my 22 week baby, the nurse dressed her, and took photos. Yes, that baby is worth the dignity of not being flushed down the toilet. It has nothing to do with being "MAGA," it has to do with being a mother. There is nothing, absolutely nothing, human about flushing a baby down the toilet. You haven't seen a baby outside the uterus at that stage of gestation, so I suggest you keep your small-minded, uninformed opinion to yourself.

Very sorry about your baby. At least you had the luxury of being in a hospital to receive care, painkillers, deliver her on a bed, and where a nurse cleaned and dressed her to give back you to to hold. That is right and proper.

No one sent you home to deliver your preemie into a toilet with the expectations of you having fish it out with your own hand amidst all the blood, clots, uterine tissue, placenta, fecal matter, urine, and toilet paper in the water.

When you've experienced that horror story, without having any spouse or friendly faces next to you to help you out, come back and tell us about how we are all inhuman for supporting a woman who did go through it.

Oh, but they did send me home. Ten hours later when the baby was actually coming, I went back. After dropping a ton of blood in the toilet, experiencing the unbearable pain of childbirth, I still had the wherewithal to go back.

good for you? she didn’t go back. maybe she had kids at home.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's pretty clear this prosecution is about getting a case on the record that gives personhood to a 2nd trimester fetus.

Yup. So a DEAD second trimester fetus will have more rights to its bodily autonomy than a living human woman. MAGA!

I love all you people coming on here who have never held a second-trimester fetus. Once it is outside the uterus it is no longer a fetus, it is a baby. I held my 22 week baby, the nurse dressed her, and took photos. Yes, that baby is worth the dignity of not being flushed down the toilet. It has nothing to do with being "MAGA," it has to do with being a mother. There is nothing, absolutely nothing, human about flushing a baby down the toilet. You haven't seen a baby outside the uterus at that stage of gestation, so I suggest you keep your small-minded, uninformed opinion to yourself.

Very sorry about your baby. At least you had the luxury of being in a hospital to receive care, painkillers, deliver her on a bed, and where a nurse cleaned and dressed her to give back you to to hold. That is right and proper.

No one sent you home to deliver your preemie into a toilet with the expectations of you having fish it out with your own hand amidst all the blood, clots, uterine tissue, placenta, fecal matter, urine, and toilet paper in the water.

When you've experienced that horror story, without having any spouse or friendly faces next to you to help you out, come back and tell us about how we are all inhuman for supporting a woman who did go through it.

Oh, but they did send me home. Ten hours later when the baby was actually coming, I went back. After dropping a ton of blood in the toilet, experiencing the unbearable pain of childbirth, I still had the wherewithal to go back.

Wherewithal: the money or other means needed for a particular purpose.

Were you living in a home for poor women and children at the time?

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Anonymous wrote:It's pretty clear this prosecution is about getting a case on the record that gives personhood to a 2nd trimester fetus.

Yup. So a DEAD second trimester fetus will have more rights to its bodily autonomy than a living human woman. MAGA!

I love all you people coming on here who have never held a second-trimester fetus. Once it is outside the uterus it is no longer a fetus, it is a baby. I held my 22 week baby, the nurse dressed her, and took photos. Yes, that baby is worth the dignity of not being flushed down the toilet. It has nothing to do with being "MAGA," it has to do with being a mother. There is nothing, absolutely nothing, human about flushing a baby down the toilet. You haven't seen a baby outside the uterus at that stage of gestation, so I suggest you keep your small-minded, uninformed opinion to yourself.

Very sorry about your baby. At least you had the luxury of being in a hospital to receive care, painkillers, deliver her on a bed, and where a nurse cleaned and dressed her to give back you to to hold. That is right and proper.

No one sent you home to deliver your preemie into a toilet with the expectations of you having fish it out with your own hand amidst all the blood, clots, uterine tissue, placenta, fecal matter, urine, and toilet paper in the water.

When you've experienced that horror story, without having any spouse or friendly faces next to you to help you out, come back and tell us about how we are all inhuman for supporting a woman who did go through it.

Oh, but they did send me home. Ten hours later when the baby was actually coming, I went back. After dropping a ton of blood in the toilet, experiencing the unbearable pain of childbirth, I still had the wherewithal to go back.

I have two friends who didn’t have enough time to make it back to the hospital before their full term baby arrived. One gave birth at home waiting for an ambulance, the other in the seat of their car.

I am pretty sure that if someone can deliver 7 lbs of baby in that short a period of time, someone can deliver 1 lb. in a short period too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's pretty clear this prosecution is about getting a case on the record that gives personhood to a 2nd trimester fetus.

Yup. So a DEAD second trimester fetus will have more rights to its bodily autonomy than a living human woman. MAGA!

I love all you people coming on here who have never held a second-trimester fetus. Once it is outside the uterus it is no longer a fetus, it is a baby. I held my 22 week baby, the nurse dressed her, and took photos. Yes, that baby is worth the dignity of not being flushed down the toilet. It has nothing to do with being "MAGA," it has to do with being a mother. There is nothing, absolutely nothing, human about flushing a baby down the toilet. You haven't seen a baby outside the uterus at that stage of gestation, so I suggest you keep your small-minded, uninformed opinion to yourself.

Very sorry about your baby. At least you had the luxury of being in a hospital to receive care, painkillers, deliver her on a bed, and where a nurse cleaned and dressed her to give back you to to hold. That is right and proper.

No one sent you home to deliver your preemie into a toilet with the expectations of you having fish it out with your own hand amidst all the blood, clots, uterine tissue, placenta, fecal matter, urine, and toilet paper in the water.

When you've experienced that horror story, without having any spouse or friendly faces next to you to help you out, come back and tell us about how we are all inhuman for supporting a woman who did go through it.

Oh, but they did send me home. Ten hours later when the baby was actually coming, I went back. After dropping a ton of blood in the toilet, experiencing the unbearable pain of childbirth, I still had the wherewithal to go back.

Glad she didn’t slip out with that first blood in the toilet. Sounds like you had some time. And managed to deliver her in a bed. You are clearly superior to the women whose preemies slip out quickly.

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Anonymous wrote:It's pretty clear this prosecution is about getting a case on the record that gives personhood to a 2nd trimester fetus.

Yup. So a DEAD second trimester fetus will have more rights to its bodily autonomy than a living human woman. MAGA!

I love all you people coming on here who have never held a second-trimester fetus. Once it is outside the uterus it is no longer a fetus, it is a baby. I held my 22 week baby, the nurse dressed her, and took photos. Yes, that baby is worth the dignity of not being flushed down the toilet. It has nothing to do with being "MAGA," it has to do with being a mother. There is nothing, absolutely nothing, human about flushing a baby down the toilet. You haven't seen a baby outside the uterus at that stage of gestation, so I suggest you keep your small-minded, uninformed opinion to yourself.

Very sorry about your baby. At least you had the luxury of being in a hospital to receive care, painkillers, deliver her on a bed, and where a nurse cleaned and dressed her to give back you to to hold. That is right and proper.

No one sent you home to deliver your preemie into a toilet with the expectations of you having fish it out with your own hand amidst all the blood, clots, uterine tissue, placenta, fecal matter, urine, and toilet paper in the water.

When you've experienced that horror story, without having any spouse or friendly faces next to you to help you out, come back and tell us about how we are all inhuman for supporting a woman who did go through it.

Oh, but they did send me home. Ten hours later when the baby was actually coming, I went back. After dropping a ton of blood in the toilet, experiencing the unbearable pain of childbirth, I still had the wherewithal to go back.

So you were able to prevent delivery in order to be able to get to the hospital on time? What was your secret, you should let doctors know so they can share with other women in preterm labor who insist the baby is coming out now! Silly women if they just squeezed their vaginas shut they could get to the hospital on time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's pretty clear this prosecution is about getting a case on the record that gives personhood to a 2nd trimester fetus.

Yup. So a DEAD second trimester fetus will have more rights to its bodily autonomy than a living human woman. MAGA!

I love all you people coming on here who have never held a second-trimester fetus. Once it is outside the uterus it is no longer a fetus, it is a baby. I held my 22 week baby, the nurse dressed her, and took photos. Yes, that baby is worth the dignity of not being flushed down the toilet. It has nothing to do with being "MAGA," it has to do with being a mother. There is nothing, absolutely nothing, human about flushing a baby down the toilet. You haven't seen a baby outside the uterus at that stage of gestation, so I suggest you keep your small-minded, uninformed opinion to yourself.

Very sorry about your baby. At least you had the luxury of being in a hospital to receive care, painkillers, deliver her on a bed, and where a nurse cleaned and dressed her to give back you to to hold. That is right and proper.

No one sent you home to deliver your preemie into a toilet with the expectations of you having fish it out with your own hand amidst all the blood, clots, uterine tissue, placenta, fecal matter, urine, and toilet paper in the water.

When you've experienced that horror story, without having any spouse or friendly faces next to you to help you out, come back and tell us about how we are all inhuman for supporting a woman who did go through it.

Oh, but they did send me home. Ten hours later when the baby was actually coming, I went back. After dropping a ton of blood in the toilet, experiencing the unbearable pain of childbirth, I still had the wherewithal to go back.

So you were able to prevent delivery in order to be able to get to the hospital on time? What was your secret, you should let doctors know so they can share with other women in preterm labor who insist the baby is coming out now! Silly women if they just squeezed their vaginas shut they could get to the hospital on time.

If it's a legitimate stillbirth, I believe I've been told by a senator that the female body has ways to shut that while thing down.

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