Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:They’ll both rot in prison and/or death penalty.

Both? Was there a second perpetrator?

The transgender boyfriend will be charged as well I predict. He is cooperating with the investigation to lessen his own sentence

Yeah he’s cooked. He knew all about the plan ahead of time. If the emails and texts show support he’s more than cooked.

He was silent.

Until the killing was done and more Tyler voicemails came in saying it’s done and go pick up the gun later.

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Anonymous wrote:Where did this kid learn to shoot like that? Is he a patsy for the real shooter?

He grew up in a pro gun family.

You don’t learn skills like that hunting deer or playing call of duty. That’s military marksman level expertise

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I don’t understand this at all. Why are they celebrating someone who probably hated them for the color of their skin?

He was probably fine with them as long as they stayed in their own country.

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I don’t understand this at all. Why are they celebrating someone who probably hated them for the color of their skin?

Because they know the truth. He didn't hate anyone. He considered all of us God's children.
Sorry you have been so brainwashed with lies.

Sure, he didn't hate anyone. He just thought black women had less brain capacity than other God's children. That's not hate at all.

And that Gay people are a middle finger to God. Not aure his views on the many hundred species of animals that also demonstrate homosexual behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this guy’s murder so special? I really don’t get it. I knew who he was, but he’s one victim of too many gun violence victims to count. Once we start with “he’s a victim we like, so his death means more” we’re sunk. I guess we’re sunk either way, but this guy is a dime a dozen victim of gun violence, something he said was a necessary part of our culture. So what’s with all this fanfare?

He died in the first publicly filmed political assassination since 1968. It is a big deal. You may not like a single thing he said, but this is no ordinary death.

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They know, they’re just trying to rile up who knows who. DCUM is all liberals so preaching to the choir

Of course I “know” who he is. Why wasn’t there 350+ pages denouncing the Minnesota murders, that were actual political assassinations? Because you all have decided his life was more valuable. I disagree with that 100% but that’s not to say I think his life didn’t have value. His life was as important- no more, no less - than anyone else’s. Period.

Breaks to the house were a live event and recorded in a crowded public place? And every family of every attendee has rounded up a class action lawsuit?
Is that what happened in Minnesota in the middle of the night in a house by someone who didn’t like that they voted against Open Borders?

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Anonymous wrote:This guy does not deserve nearly 350 pages of discussion, imo. He was just one guy. One. And nothing special. Certainly nothing to celebrate.

There are many, many people who are killed by gun violence each years, many of them kids, students, just minding their business. It's so gross that the Right is blathering on and acting like this guy was some sort of christ-like figure. And they say NOTHING about kids. Nothing about Minnesota. Nothing about the church in Georgia. Nothing about the kids in Denver, etc. THIS is what you use your social platform for? GTFOH.

He didn't deserve to die, no matter how vile he was (and he was). But neither does anyone else. Charlie didn't care about them, though. He thought gun policy would affect other people and didn't care. So I'm going to show him as much empathy as he has shown other people and other victims. He gets no further air time from me.

I don't know what to tell you. I listened to him every day while driving. I agreed with a lot of what he said. None of it was strange. He had the kind of opinions most of our parents held 40 years ago plus being an excellent apologist for Christianity. Now he's dead, killed in front of his own little children. and most people where I live cheered that death. It was that cheering that jolted me, far worse than the killing itself. That people I considered friends want people like me to die for our opinions.

“Having the same beliefs are parents had 40 years ago”? Like women and black people being lesser than?? That’s not odd? What happened to him is indeed horrible. Everything I’ve seen from friends on social media-including those on the left-agree. Not one of them is celebrating. You have some interesting friends, PP. And if you look at places like X-you see foolishness on both sides but only one side is calling for a Civil War and bloodshed.

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Anonymous wrote:This guy does not deserve nearly 350 pages of discussion, imo. He was just one guy. One. And nothing special. Certainly nothing to celebrate.

There are many, many people who are killed by gun violence each years, many of them kids, students, just minding their business. It's so gross that the Right is blathering on and acting like this guy was some sort of christ-like figure. And they say NOTHING about kids. Nothing about Minnesota. Nothing about the church in Georgia. Nothing about the kids in Denver, etc. THIS is what you use your social platform for? GTFOH.

He didn't deserve to die, no matter how vile he was (and he was). But neither does anyone else. Charlie didn't care about them, though. He thought gun policy would affect other people and didn't care. So I'm going to show him as much empathy as he has shown other people and other victims. He gets no further air time from me.

I don't know what to tell you. I listened to him every day while driving. I agreed with a lot of what he said. None of it was strange. He had the kind of opinions most of our parents held 40 years ago plus being an excellent apologist for Christianity. Now he's dead, killed in front of his own little children. and most people where I live cheered that death. It was that cheering that jolted me, far worse than the killing itself. That people I considered friends want people like me to die for our opinions.

That is horrible, and I am sorry for your experience, but truly you have strange friends. I have one social media friend out of hundreds who made a crass comment and not one other friend said anything remotely close to "cheering." Yes some people criticized him, which apparently the Trump administration is trying to get people fired for, but cheer? That is disgusting and not normal.

Not only are people cheering Charlie Kirk’s assassination, they are actively threatening Trump, Matt Walsh, and others.

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Anonymous wrote:This guy does not deserve nearly 350 pages of discussion, imo. He was just one guy. One. And nothing special. Certainly nothing to celebrate.

There are many, many people who are killed by gun violence each years, many of them kids, students, just minding their business. It's so gross that the Right is blathering on and acting like this guy was some sort of christ-like figure. And they say NOTHING about kids. Nothing about Minnesota. Nothing about the church in Georgia. Nothing about the kids in Denver, etc. THIS is what you use your social platform for? GTFOH.

He didn't deserve to die, no matter how vile he was (and he was). But neither does anyone else. Charlie didn't care about them, though. He thought gun policy would affect other people and didn't care. So I'm going to show him as much empathy as he has shown other people and other victims. He gets no further air time from me.

I don't know what to tell you. I listened to him every day while driving. I agreed with a lot of what he said. None of it was strange. He had the kind of opinions most of our parents held 40 years ago plus being an excellent apologist for Christianity. Now he's dead, killed in front of his own little children. and most people where I live cheered that death. It was that cheering that jolted me, far worse than the killing itself. That people I considered friends want people like me to die for our opinions.

“Having the same beliefs are parents had 40 years ago”? Like women and black people being lesser than?? That’s not odd? What happened to him is indeed horrible. Everything I’ve seen from friends on social media-including those on the left-agree. Not one of them is celebrating. You have some interesting friends, PP. And if you look at places like X-you see foolishness on both sides but only one side is calling for a Civil War and bloodshed.

*our parents

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Anonymous wrote:We don’t know if Lance Twiggs was his partner. Please don’t start rumors and wait until the investigation presents the facts.

This could ruin a young persons life. There’s been enough pain already.

Roommate knew the plan and did nothing.

Cooperating after the murder is still
Murder 2 accomplice in most states.

Roommate knew of it after the fact, not before

The voicemail said: go get the wrapped rifle later in the trees behind the XYZ building.

Oops.

That is AFTER

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Anonymous wrote:This guy does not deserve nearly 350 pages of discussion, imo. He was just one guy. One. And nothing special. Certainly nothing to celebrate.

There are many, many people who are killed by gun violence each years, many of them kids, students, just minding their business. It's so gross that the Right is blathering on and acting like this guy was some sort of christ-like figure. And they say NOTHING about kids. Nothing about Minnesota. Nothing about the church in Georgia. Nothing about the kids in Denver, etc. THIS is what you use your social platform for? GTFOH.

He didn't deserve to die, no matter how vile he was (and he was). But neither does anyone else. Charlie didn't care about them, though. He thought gun policy would affect other people and didn't care. So I'm going to show him as much empathy as he has shown other people and other victims. He gets no further air time from me.

I think this person captures why he was indeed something special.......Beautifully written.

Americans don’t understand just how special they are, how much light the American revolution brought into the world, and how much all the great competing revolutions of the past 300 years have been a darkness and a blight on the world that has only ever been pushed back by America’s example or American power.

The communists and Islamists and others never liberated a single soul or brought anyone out of destitution into prosperity or helped anyone turn democratic. Only America, with all its faults and fissures and self-doubt, ever did that.

I was asked several times over the past day what I thought of Charlie Kirk’s assassination. I didn’t answer because I was confused by my own reaction, by how deeply and powerfully it affected me.

I thought at first it was because he supported Israel’s existence at a time of normalized bigotry, and that’s probably part of it. But I couldn’t imagine feeling quite this strongly for most other defenders of my people’s right to exist. This went deeper.

Maybe I was sympathizing with the prevailing mood among American conservative friends over the past 24 hours. Maybe. But it felt deeper still.

It felt personal.

Which is strange, because I have no strong views or meaningful knowledge of most of the issues and culture wars Charlie took part in. America’s great debates on gun control, abortion, gender or healthcare are all mostly foreign to me. Yet I felt like I personally lost something in Charlie’s death.

And then it hit me.

Steven Pinker and many others have made this point a million times before, this essential point about America, about the American-led world, and, despite America’s obsessively discussed failings and imperfections, how infinitely better this world is than the world before America.

And Charlie, who hailed from a generation almost defined by its loss of faith in the West, became a kind of engine of renewed faith in Americanness - in the America that any Jew who knows their history can’t help but love.

My people, my own children, could live and thrive in the world Charlie believed in, the world America made, sometimes with its power but mostly by its example.

Charlie was a political pugilist. People may disagree bitterly with him on a dozen issues I scarcely understand. I can only comment on this one small thing - this very big, defining thing - that I know something about.

Charlie believed in the good that America brought to the world, believed it was still America’s fundamental story, and carried that gospel into the American culture wars with the earnestness of the evangelists of old.

May his death, like his life, raise a generation of new believers in that American promise. It isn’t fashionable to say it nowadays, but the truth isn’t always fashionable: The future happiness of humanity still, despite everything, depends on it.

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Anonymous wrote:This guy does not deserve nearly 350 pages of discussion, imo. He was just one guy. One. And nothing special. Certainly nothing to celebrate.

There are many, many people who are killed by gun violence each years, many of them kids, students, just minding their business. It's so gross that the Right is blathering on and acting like this guy was some sort of christ-like figure. And they say NOTHING about kids. Nothing about Minnesota. Nothing about the church in Georgia. Nothing about the kids in Denver, etc. THIS is what you use your social platform for? GTFOH.

He didn't deserve to die, no matter how vile he was (and he was). But neither does anyone else. Charlie didn't care about them, though. He thought gun policy would affect other people and didn't care. So I'm going to show him as much empathy as he has shown other people and other victims. He gets no further air time from me.

I don't know what to tell you. I listened to him every day while driving. I agreed with a lot of what he said. None of it was strange. He had the kind of opinions most of our parents held 40 years ago plus being an excellent apologist for Christianity. Now he's dead, killed in front of his own little children. and most people where I live cheered that death. It was that cheering that jolted me, far worse than the killing itself. That people I considered friends want people like me to die for our opinions.

That is horrible, and I am sorry for your experience, but truly you have strange friends. I have one social media friend out of hundreds who made a crass comment and not one other friend said anything remotely close to "cheering." Yes some people criticized him, which apparently the Trump administration is trying to get people fired for, but cheer? That is disgusting and not normal.

Not only are people cheering Charlie Kirk’s assassination, they are actively threatening Trump, Matt Walsh, and others.

And historic black colleges received active threats after Kirk's shooting.

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Anonymous wrote:They’ll both rot in prison and/or death penalty.

Both? Was there a second perpetrator?

The transgender boyfriend will be charged as well I predict. He is cooperating with the investigation to lessen his own sentence

Where was it released that he has a transgender boyfriend? Or are you going on the clothes being worn?

If it's the color of his clothes then there's a fairly popular tiktoker, and very big Kirk supporter, who must also be transgender. He was wearing pink the other day.

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Anonymous wrote:Where did this kid learn to shoot like that? Is he a patsy for the real shooter?

His family had an arsenal and tons of photos of him and his brothers with huge guns when they were young kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Where did this kid learn to shoot like that? Is he a patsy for the real shooter?

He grew up in a pro gun family.

You don’t learn skills like that hunting deer or playing call of duty. That’s military marksman level expertise

It’s not at all.

This is the most basic stuff you will learn with regards to shooting a rifle.

The distance was 142 yards with a very minor downward slope. The shooter more than likely had a 50 yard zero on his rifle and was likely aiming for Charlie’s upper thoracic region.

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Anonymous wrote:This guy does not deserve nearly 350 pages of discussion, imo. He was just one guy. One. And nothing special. Certainly nothing to celebrate.

There are many, many people who are killed by gun violence each years, many of them kids, students, just minding their business. It's so gross that the Right is blathering on and acting like this guy was some sort of christ-like figure. And they say NOTHING about kids. Nothing about Minnesota. Nothing about the church in Georgia. Nothing about the kids in Denver, etc. THIS is what you use your social platform for? GTFOH.

He didn't deserve to die, no matter how vile he was (and he was). But neither does anyone else. Charlie didn't care about them, though. He thought gun policy would affect other people and didn't care. So I'm going to show him as much empathy as he has shown other people and other victims. He gets no further air time from me.

I don't know what to tell you. I listened to him every day while driving. I agreed with a lot of what he said. None of it was strange. He had the kind of opinions most of our parents held 40 years ago plus being an excellent apologist for Christianity. Now he's dead, killed in front of his own little children. and most people where I live cheered that death. It was that cheering that jolted me, far worse than the killing itself. That people I considered friends want people like me to die for our opinions.

That is horrible, and I am sorry for your experience, but truly you have strange friends. I have one social media friend out of hundreds who made a crass comment and not one other friend said anything remotely close to "cheering." Yes some people criticized him, which apparently the Trump administration is trying to get people fired for, but cheer? That is disgusting and not normal.

Not only are people cheering Charlie Kirk’s assassination, they are actively threatening Trump, Matt Walsh, and others.

And historic black colleges received active threats after Kirk's shooting.

Yes they did. And NONE OF IT is right.