Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this guy’s murder so special? I really don’t get it. I knew who he was, but he’s one victim of too many gun violence victims to count. Once we start with “he’s a victim we like, so his death means more” we’re sunk. I guess we’re sunk either way, but this guy is a dime a dozen victim of gun violence, something he said was a necessary part of our culture. So what’s with all this fanfare?

He manipulated people's insecurities and racism. He did not necessarily cause it but he certainly exploited it to make money.

And now he’s just another dead guy from guns.

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Anonymous wrote:We don’t know if Lance Twiggs was his partner. Please don’t start rumors and wait until the investigation presents the facts.

This could ruin a young persons life. There’s been enough pain already.

Roommate knew the plan and did nothing.

Cooperating after the murder is still
Murder 2 accomplice in most states.

Roommate knew of it after the fact, not before

Roommate is going to be charged as a co conspirator if there is any trail implicating involvement

Also on next week’s court docket. Public info. Full name

They’ve already released his name.

Has twiggs been formally charged yet? He’ll get his own court date and time, not just tag along with Tyler’s slot.

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I don’t understand this at all. Why are they celebrating someone who probably hated them for the color of their skin?

Because they know the truth. He didn't hate anyone. He considered all of us God's children.
Sorry you have been so brainwashed with lies.

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Anonymous wrote:Charlie Kirk’s alleged shooter Tyler Robinson was reportedly living with a transgender partner before the attack.
Erika rightfully referred to Tyler as "they"

How so? There is no allegation that Robinson is trans. The allegation is about his roommate.

News reports suggest his roommate was his companion and partner.

All the news reports are based on leaks to one reporter. Assuming it is true, an assumption that I am not willing to make, that would not make Robinson trans. Are you sure that you know what a trans person is?

At first it sounded to wild to be true. But more and more news outlets are now reporting this- seems likely it is true

They are all reporting it from the same source, whoever that is. Remember, everyone has an agenda.

The are pictures leaked of the roommate- def trans. Whether they are/were partners, who knows

Where?

In tabloids and random publications citing those tabloids.

There's a reason for this rush to pin this all on a trans person instead of waiting for verified information from official sources.

Never mind the hundreds of posts and the moderators attempt to pin it on Fuentes and groypers!

NY Post is not a tabloid.

It literally and figuratively is a tabloid.

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Anonymous wrote:This guy does not deserve nearly 350 pages of discussion, imo. He was just one guy. One. And nothing special. Certainly nothing to celebrate.

There are many, many people who are killed by gun violence each years, many of them kids, students, just minding their business. It's so gross that the Right is blathering on and acting like this guy was some sort of christ-like figure. And they say NOTHING about kids. Nothing about Minnesota. Nothing about the church in Georgia. Nothing about the kids in Denver, etc. THIS is what you use your social platform for? GTFOH.

He didn't deserve to die, no matter how vile he was (and he was). But neither does anyone else. Charlie didn't care about them, though. He thought gun policy would affect other people and didn't care. So I'm going to show him as much empathy as he has shown other people and other victims. He gets no further air time from me.

I don't know what to tell you. I listened to him every day while driving. I agreed with a lot of what he said. None of it was strange. He had the kind of opinions most of our parents held 40 years ago plus being an excellent apologist for Christianity. Now he's dead, killed in front of his own little children. and most people where I live cheered that death. It was that cheering that jolted me, far worse than the killing itself. That people I considered friends want people like me to die for our opinions.

That is horrible, and I am sorry for your experience, but truly you have strange friends. I have one social media friend out of hundreds who made a crass comment and not one other friend said anything remotely close to "cheering." Yes some people criticized him, which apparently the Trump administration is trying to get people fired for, but cheer? That is disgusting and not normal.

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Anonymous wrote:Where did this kid learn to shoot like that? Is he a patsy for the real shooter?

As tons of people who know have said previously, it was not that impressive a shot. No one would aim for the neck (generally "center mass"). There was a scope involved and the distance was not all that far.

The Army used to train up to hit center mass at 300 yards (been a while since I last qualified, so I'll only speak to my experience).

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Anonymous wrote:I like this thread particularly here toward the end where I can show my slightly left of center friends that its the right that has animosity toward others with differing views. Thanks!

You guys keep saying this as some sort of gotcha. Those days are over. The tolerant left is over. We don't care about you people anymore. You are destroying this country and quite literally murdering fellow Americans. No one feels the need to be nice to you anymore.

Therefore you need to kill "us" because "we" are "literally murdering fellow Americans"?

This persecution fantasy that you have really comes off as weak.

Huh? You just accused an anonymous poster of "literally murdering fellow Americans" because they ::checks notes:: said "the right has animosity towards others with differing views".

NP they meant you as in your fellow conservatives. It's this inability to think or read critically that got us into this mess. People with seventh grade literacy in the voting booth.

That's not how I read it (insult my education all you want), but even if you are right, saying an entire group of people based on their political leanings are "literally murdering their fellow Americans" is unhinged

Charlie Kirk was literally murdered by someone on the right. Cry all out want about it. What is it you people say? Facts don't care about your feelings.

Yeah. Nobody except the far left people here believe what you say. And, even they don't really believe it.
We have caught on to your disinformation tactics. We know the truth.

Nobody believes Tyler was alt right at the time of the shooting. Some fools in DCUM are just trying to make trouble. Maybe they’re Russian bots.

You know who believes it? Nick Fuentes and the alt right!

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this guy’s murder so special? I really don’t get it. I knew who he was, but he’s one victim of too many gun violence victims to count. Once we start with “he’s a victim we like, so his death means more” we’re sunk. I guess we’re sunk either way, but this guy is a dime a dozen victim of gun violence, something he said was a necessary part of our culture. So what’s with all this fanfare?

Because he was out there as a public person doing civil discourse. Unlike daily gang on gang drug dealer shootings in Chicago or Baltimore.

It’s rather ironic gang violence were his last words before he was shot in an act of white on white violence and by a fellow conservative no less[/quote]

Find some new lies to spout elsewhere; this has already been disproven

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Anonymous wrote:They’ll both rot in prison and/or death penalty.

Both? Was there a second perpetrator?

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this guy’s murder so special? I really don’t get it. I knew who he was, but he’s one victim of too many gun violence victims to count. Once we start with “he’s a victim we like, so his death means more” we’re sunk. I guess we’re sunk either way, but this guy is a dime a dozen victim of gun violence, something he said was a necessary part of our culture. So what’s with all this fanfare?

He died in the first publicly filmed political assassination since 1968. It is a big deal. You may not like a single thing he said, but this is no ordinary death.

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They know, they’re just trying to rile up who knows who. DCUM is all liberals so preaching to the choir

Of course I “know” who he is. Why wasn’t there 350+ pages denouncing the Minnesota murders, that were actual political assassinations? Because you all have decided his life was more valuable. I disagree with that 100% but that’s not to say I think his life didn’t have value. His life was as important- no more, no less - than anyone else’s. Period.

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Anonymous wrote:They’ll both rot in prison and/or death penalty.

Both? Was there a second perpetrator?

The transgender boyfriend will be charged as well I predict. He is cooperating with the investigation to lessen his own sentence

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I don’t understand this at all. Why are they celebrating someone who probably hated them for the color of their skin?

Because they know the truth. He didn't hate anyone. He considered all of us God's children.
Sorry you have been so brainwashed with lies.

Sure, he didn't hate anyone. He just thought black women had less brain capacity than other God's children. That's not hate at all.

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Anonymous wrote:This guy does not deserve nearly 350 pages of discussion, imo. He was just one guy. One. And nothing special. Certainly nothing to celebrate.

There are many, many people who are killed by gun violence each years, many of them kids, students, just minding their business. It's so gross that the Right is blathering on and acting like this guy was some sort of christ-like figure. And they say NOTHING about kids. Nothing about Minnesota. Nothing about the church in Georgia. Nothing about the kids in Denver, etc. THIS is what you use your social platform for? GTFOH.

He didn't deserve to die, no matter how vile he was (and he was). But neither does anyone else. Charlie didn't care about them, though. He thought gun policy would affect other people and didn't care. So I'm going to show him as much empathy as he has shown other people and other victims. He gets no further air time from me.

I don't know what to tell you. I listened to him every day while driving. I agreed with a lot of what he said. None of it was strange. He had the kind of opinions most of our parents held 40 years ago plus being an excellent apologist for Christianity. Now he's dead, killed in front of his own little children. and most people where I live cheered that death. It was that cheering that jolted me, far worse than the killing itself. That people I considered friends want people like me to die for our opinions.

That is horrible, and I am sorry for your experience, but truly you have strange friends. I have one social media friend out of hundreds who made a crass comment and not one other friend said anything remotely close to "cheering." Yes some people criticized him, which apparently the Trump administration is trying to get people fired for, but cheer? That is disgusting and not normal.

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I lean left but feel awful for his wife and children. I also do not agree with many of his comments and fear that his views put people I love at risk.

So to the right leaning folks here, am I wrong to fear that his views put friends and family who are Black or gay at risk? Because as newsworthy as his death was, the fact remains that violence is statistically perpetrated more from the right. Perhaps it does not make the news as much, but that is what research indicates and why FBI has published higher concern for right wing violence.