Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this guy’s murder so special? I really don’t get it. I knew who he was, but he’s one victim of too many gun violence victims to count. Once we start with “he’s a victim we like, so his death means more” we’re sunk. I guess we’re sunk either way, but this guy is a dime a dozen victim of gun violence, something he said was a necessary part of our culture. So what’s with all this fanfare?


Because he was out there as a public person doing civil discourse. Unlike daily gang on gang drug dealer shootings in Chicago or Baltimore.


It’s rather ironic gang violence were his last words before he was shot in an act of white on white violence and by a fellow conservative no less
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I don’t understand this at all. Why are they celebrating someone who probably hated them for the color of their skin?
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Anonymous wrote:This guy does not deserve nearly 350 pages of discussion, imo. He was just one guy. One. And nothing special. Certainly nothing to celebrate.

There are many, many people who are killed by gun violence each years, many of them kids, students, just minding their business. It's so gross that the Right is blathering on and acting like this guy was some sort of christ-like figure. And they say NOTHING about kids. Nothing about Minnesota. Nothing about the church in Georgia. Nothing about the kids in Denver, etc. THIS is what you use your social platform for? GTFOH.

He didn't deserve to die, no matter how vile he was (and he was). But neither does anyone else. Charlie didn't care about them, though. He thought gun policy would affect other people and didn't care. So I'm going to show him as much empathy as he has shown other people and other victims. He gets no further air time from me.


To be fair I don’t think this is a 350 pg + post about Charlie Kirk.

It’s about the unhinged and delusional response of the right, the fact this will actually increase violence in America, and that his wife is continuing the grift because racism and misogyny sells.

Which probably could have been summed up in a page or 2 because we sadly knew most of this already.
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Where did this kid learn to shoot like that? Is he a patsy for the real shooter?
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Anonymous wrote:I like this thread particularly here toward the end where I can show my slightly left of center friends that its the right that has animosity toward others with differing views. Thanks!


You guys keep saying this as some sort of gotcha. Those days are over. The tolerant left is over. We don't care about you people anymore. You are destroying this country and quite literally murdering fellow Americans. No one feels the need to be nice to you anymore.


Therefore you need to kill "us" because "we" are "literally murdering fellow Americans"?


This persecution fantasy that you have really comes off as weak.


Huh? You just accused an anonymous poster of "literally murdering fellow Americans" because they ::checks notes:: said "the right has animosity towards others with differing views".


NP they meant you as in your fellow conservatives. It's this inability to think or read critically that got us into this mess. People with seventh grade literacy in the voting booth.


That's not how I read it (insult my education all you want), but even if you are right, saying an entire group of people based on their political leanings are "literally murdering their fellow Americans" is unhinged


Charlie Kirk was literally murdered by someone on the right. Cry all out want about it. What is it you people say? Facts don't care about your feelings.


Yeah. Nobody except the far left people here believe what you say. And, even they don't really believe it.
We have caught on to your disinformation tactics. We know the truth.
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Anonymous wrote:This guy does not deserve nearly 350 pages of discussion, imo. He was just one guy. One. And nothing special. Certainly nothing to celebrate.

There are many, many people who are killed by gun violence each years, many of them kids, students, just minding their business. It's so gross that the Right is blathering on and acting like this guy was some sort of christ-like figure. And they say NOTHING about kids. Nothing about Minnesota. Nothing about the church in Georgia. Nothing about the kids in Denver, etc. THIS is what you use your social platform for? GTFOH.

He didn't deserve to die, no matter how vile he was (and he was). But neither does anyone else. Charlie didn't care about them, though. He thought gun policy would affect other people and didn't care. So I'm going to show him as much empathy as he has shown other people and other victims. He gets no further air time from me.


I don't know what to tell you. I listened to him every day while driving. I agreed with a lot of what he said. None of it was strange. He had the kind of opinions most of our parents held 40 years ago plus being an excellent apologist for Christianity. Now he's dead, killed in front of his own little children. and most people where I live cheered that death. It was that cheering that jolted me, far worse than the killing itself. That people I considered friends want people like me to die for our opinions.


His kids were not there.

Also you didn't think it was that strange because you agree with him. Millions of others found him very offensive.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is this guy’s murder so special? I really don’t get it. I knew who he was, but he’s one victim of too many gun violence victims to count. Once we start with “he’s a victim we like, so his death means more” we’re sunk. I guess we’re sunk either way, but this guy is a dime a dozen victim of gun violence, something he said was a necessary part of our culture. So what’s with all this fanfare?


Because he was out there as a public person doing civil discourse. Unlike daily gang on gang drug dealer shootings in Chicago or Baltimore.


It’s rather ironic gang violence were his last words before he was shot in an act of white on white violence and by a fellow conservative no less


Not a fellow conservative. You’re behind on the news.
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Anonymous wrote:His wife doesn’t seem sad. It seems… performative.

Idk


The grift must go on.
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Anonymous wrote:We don’t know if Lance Twiggs was his partner. Please don’t start rumors and wait until the investigation presents the facts.

This could ruin a young persons life. There’s been enough pain already.


Roommate knew the plan and did nothing.

Cooperating after the murder is still
Murder 2 accomplice in most states.


Roommate knew of it after the fact, not before


Roommate is going to be charged as a co conspirator if there is any trail implicating involvement


Also on next week’s court docket. Public info. Full name


They’ve already released his name.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Where did this kid learn to shoot like that? Is he a patsy for the real shooter?


He grew up in a pro gun family.
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Anonymous wrote:His wife doesn’t seem sad. It seems… performative.

Idk


Don't confuse strength with "performative."
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Anonymous wrote:I like this thread particularly here toward the end where I can show my slightly left of center friends that its the right that has animosity toward others with differing views. Thanks!


You guys keep saying this as some sort of gotcha. Those days are over. The tolerant left is over. We don't care about you people anymore. You are destroying this country and quite literally murdering fellow Americans. No one feels the need to be nice to you anymore.


Therefore you need to kill "us" because "we" are "literally murdering fellow Americans"?


This persecution fantasy that you have really comes off as weak.


Huh? You just accused an anonymous poster of "literally murdering fellow Americans" because they ::checks notes:: said "the right has animosity towards others with differing views".


NP they meant you as in your fellow conservatives. It's this inability to think or read critically that got us into this mess. People with seventh grade literacy in the voting booth.


That's not how I read it (insult my education all you want), but even if you are right, saying an entire group of people based on their political leanings are "literally murdering their fellow Americans" is unhinged


Charlie Kirk was literally murdered by someone on the right. Cry all out want about it. What is it you people say? Facts don't care about your feelings.


Yeah. Nobody except the far left people here believe what you say. And, even they don't really believe it.
We have caught on to your disinformation tactics. We know the truth.


Nobody believes Tyler was alt right at the time of the shooting. Some fools in DCUM are just trying to make trouble. Maybe they’re Russian bots.
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Anonymous wrote:This guy does not deserve nearly 350 pages of discussion, imo. He was just one guy. One. And nothing special. Certainly nothing to celebrate.

There are many, many people who are killed by gun violence each years, many of them kids, students, just minding their business. It's so gross that the Right is blathering on and acting like this guy was some sort of christ-like figure. And they say NOTHING about kids. Nothing about Minnesota. Nothing about the church in Georgia. Nothing about the kids in Denver, etc. THIS is what you use your social platform for? GTFOH.

He didn't deserve to die, no matter how vile he was (and he was). But neither does anyone else. Charlie didn't care about them, though. He thought gun policy would affect other people and didn't care. So I'm going to show him as much empathy as he has shown other people and other victims. He gets no further air time from me.


I don't know what to tell you. I listened to him every day while driving. I agreed with a lot of what he said. None of it was strange. He had the kind of opinions most of our parents held 40 years ago plus being an excellent apologist for Christianity. Now he's dead, killed in front of his own little children. and most people where I live cheered that death. It was that cheering that jolted me, far worse than the killing itself. That people I considered friends want people like me to die for our opinions.


Opinions like yours make the world less safe for people like us.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I like this thread particularly here toward the end where I can show my slightly left of center friends that its the right that has animosity toward others with differing views. Thanks!


You guys keep saying this as some sort of gotcha. Those days are over. The tolerant left is over. We don't care about you people anymore. You are destroying this country and quite literally murdering fellow Americans. No one feels the need to be nice to you anymore.


Therefore you need to kill "us" because "we" are "literally murdering fellow Americans"?


This persecution fantasy that you have really comes off as weak.


Huh? You just accused an anonymous poster of "literally murdering fellow Americans" because they ::checks notes:: said "the right has animosity towards others with differing views".


NP they meant you as in your fellow conservatives. It's this inability to think or read critically that got us into this mess. People with seventh grade literacy in the voting booth.


It’s not terribly surprising that they misinterpret the Bible.
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Anonymous wrote:This guy does not deserve nearly 350 pages of discussion, imo. He was just one guy. One. And nothing special. Certainly nothing to celebrate.

There are many, many people who are killed by gun violence each years, many of them kids, students, just minding their business. It's so gross that the Right is blathering on and acting like this guy was some sort of christ-like figure. And they say NOTHING about kids. Nothing about Minnesota. Nothing about the church in Georgia. Nothing about the kids in Denver, etc. THIS is what you use your social platform for? GTFOH.

He didn't deserve to die, no matter how vile he was (and he was). But neither does anyone else. Charlie didn't care about them, though. He thought gun policy would affect other people and didn't care. So I'm going to show him as much empathy as he has shown other people and other victims. He gets no further air time from me.


I don't know what to tell you. I listened to him every day while driving. I agreed with a lot of what he said. None of it was strange. He had the kind of opinions most of our parents held 40 years ago plus being an excellent apologist for Christianity. Now he's dead, killed in front of his own little children. and most people where I live cheered that death. It was that cheering that jolted me, far worse than the killing itself. That people I considered friends want people like me to die for our opinions.


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