Man asked woman to leash her dog in a public park -- she called the police on him

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Both were nuts. He was threatening her by videoing her for no reason. That dog wasn't bothering anyone and I'm scared of dogs. There was no reason for him to approach her and video it so he was setting up the situation and zero respect for him. She handled it very badly but has a right to feel threatened by recording her.

That woman was breaking the law, and more people need to record those doing that so there can be consequences. It's a public space for people to enjoy - the priority is not the enjoyment of animals that you choose to bring into the space. If you don't like the rules, stay home. If your home doesn't allow you to have a dog, then get a new home or don't get a dog.

He was allowed to record her and she behaved inappropriately. And her threats were insane.

- conservative white woman

This type of thinking only works in the abstract. Video recording people in public is going to set folks off. Reporting dog off leash incidents against blacks will lead to threads about racism.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He set her up, he treated her by taking the dog via treats and calling it over. She didn't deserve to be fired for something that happened on personal time. I'm so tired of people setting people up for their 5 minutes of fame. He clearly does this regularly. She and the dog were not bothering anyone. Both handled it badly but he set her up.

You could say she set him up by walking her dog off leash in the first place.

Nobody set anybody up. This guy is a middle aged science editor who was out birdwatching. Bird people and dog people are always at odds - if she was walking a dog off leash in an area with a lot of bird watchers, she knew (or should have known) that she'd be called out by one of them. What seems unexpected to her is that the bird watcher was black.

The treat thing is weird. And I'd sure as fck be upset if someone randomly gave my dog a treat. But I wouldn't call the police and say an African American man was threatening my life over it. And I sure as hll wouldn't let myself be filmed calling the cops on a guy in this situation, using that language, knowing what could happen out of it.

There are a few people on this thread who carry treats. It's not weird and the only way a stranger could effectively give your dog a treat is if he was off leash. I don't think this applies to you.

By his own account, he used threatening language when giving the dog the treat. That would scare the bejeezus out of me. I've read enough stories of dogs poisoned by crazy neighbors and strangers that I take that seriously.

That's the only part of his side of the story that gives me pause. Obviously she is a racist lunatic who was hurting her dog in addition to putting the bird watcher's life in danger with her insane 911 call.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:karen is a derogatory racist term, it needs to stop now and yes shes an idiot

Haven't you learned? Racism isn't possible in that direction.

Correct. Bigotry is possible. Racism is not.

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[Anonymous]

De Blasio is in on it now: https://nypost.com/2020/05/26/central-park-karen-amy-cooper-showed-hatred-racism-de-blasio/

[Anonymous]

Jesus, enough with the effing dog-walking pictures. We get it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He set her up, he treated her by taking the dog via treats and calling it over. She didn't deserve to be fired for something that happened on personal time. I'm so tired of people setting people up for their 5 minutes of fame. He clearly does this regularly. She and the dog were not bothering anyone. Both handled it badly but he set her up.

You can’t set up people to be racist if they aren’t racist

Ah, you said it so much more succinctly than I would have..... thank you.

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Anonymous wrote:That video makes her look like an absolutely horrible human being. But I think the Twitter mobs need to be careful, given that none of us witnessed the full interaction.

By way of example, let me share my teenage son's experience yesterday - he was verbally harassed leaving a park in our neighborhood by some older white men. My husband, who is not white, witnessed this, it seemed totally unprovoked, and he confronted the men. It ended without violence or police, but even the confrontation was shocker since my husband and son are both about the most conflict-averse people I've ever met.

We later learned from my son's friend that other kids they knew had been in an argument with the older men over some recreational equipment at the park. My son spent a few minutes sitting with his friends and they were laughing about the argument. They were sarcastic and probably even mocking. Should the white men have harassed my son when he was leaving the park? No, of course not - he hadn't even had any contact with them. But he wasn't entirely blameless either.

Everyone is a little nuts these days. I think that Central Park woman was wrong and what she did was dangerous. But without seeing what preceded the snippet, I'm hesitant to call for her firing and imprisonment (as many, many people on Twitter already have done.)

She pretended to be assaulted. She basically called a firing squad on this man.

Also...I think that you should quit with your fake story. Your DH and son are not non-White.

PP here: it's an absolutely true story. Why would I bother writing this otherwise?

I don't condone what the Central Park woman did. I'm just pointing out that the video may not tell the whole story.

I have no idea why you shared this story, even if it’s true. The only similar thing is that your story took place in a park. Your son may have been a jerk to some stranger, but no one called the police and lied about being attacked by a black man. Do you not see the difference? Seriously?

We don't know what happened in terms of the interactions before he recorded it. Clearly he provoked her in some way to get the reaction and she was in a panic because of what he said prior.

I wouldn't classify her reaction as panicked.

I'd classify her as being vindictive and superior.

She thought she'd get a man arrested for calling her out on illegal activity. She thought wrong.

The account he posted prior to the recording clearly stated he was trying to get the dog to come to him with dog treats. Who carries dog treats and bribes dogs to come to him especially if he is scared of dogs or feels threatened by the dog. The entire situation makes no sense. But, how would you feel if someone was trying to get your dog by offering treats?

Boy, you are determined to make excuses for her. He explained that he is a bird watcher who frequently encounters dogs,illegally unleashed and digging in the vegetation that is the habitat of the birds, with entitled owners who ignore his request that they leash their dogs. He explained he carries the treats as a means of encouraging such dog owners to follow the law and leash their dogs. He is completely within his rights, and lucky for him that he thought to film her.

Stop making excuses for her. It's inexcusable.

[Anonymous]

And the headline I was waiting for:

https://nypost.com/2020/05/26/central-park-karen-says-life-is-being-destroyed-over-viral-video/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Both were nuts. He was threatening her by videoing her for no reason. That dog wasn't bothering anyone and I'm scared of dogs. There was no reason for him to approach her and video it so he was setting up the situation and zero respect for him. She handled it very badly but has a right to feel threatened by recording her.

That woman was breaking the law, and more people need to record those doing that so there can be consequences. It's a public space for people to enjoy - the priority is not the enjoyment of animals that you choose to bring into the space. If you don't like the rules, stay home. If your home doesn't allow you to have a dog, then get a new home or don't get a dog.

He was allowed to record her and she behaved inappropriately. And her threats were insane.

- conservative white woman

This type of thinking only works in the abstract. Video recording people in public is going to set folks off. Reporting dog off leash incidents against blacks will lead to threads about racism.

Logic fail, dingleberry bob. It's not racist to ask a person of any color to leash their dog in a protected area. It IS racist to make a false 911 call that claims the person is threatening just because they are black.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He set her up, he treated her by taking the dog via treats and calling it over. She didn't deserve to be fired for something that happened on personal time. I'm so tired of people setting people up for their 5 minutes of fame. He clearly does this regularly. She and the dog were not bothering anyone. Both handled it badly but he set her up.

You could say she set him up by walking her dog off leash in the first place.

Nobody set anybody up. This guy is a middle aged science editor who was out birdwatching. Bird people and dog people are always at odds - if she was walking a dog off leash in an area with a lot of bird watchers, she knew (or should have known) that she'd be called out by one of them. What seems unexpected to her is that the bird watcher was black.

The treat thing is weird. And I'd sure as fck be upset if someone randomly gave my dog a treat. But I wouldn't call the police and say an African American man was threatening my life over it. And I sure as hll wouldn't let myself be filmed calling the cops on a guy in this situation, using that language, knowing what could happen out of it.

There are a few people on this thread who carry treats. It's not weird and the only way a stranger could effectively give your dog a treat is if he was off leash. I don't think this applies to you.

By his own account, he used threatening language when giving the dog the treat. That would scare the bejeezus out of me. I've read enough stories of dogs poisoned by crazy neighbors and strangers that I take that seriously.

That's the only part of his side of the story that gives me pause. Obviously she is a racist lunatic who was hurting her dog in addition to putting the bird watcher's life in danger with her insane 911 call.

That's a big part of why you keep your dog on a leash. To keep your dog safe too. Responsible dog owners know this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He set her up, he treated her by taking the dog via treats and calling it over. She didn't deserve to be fired for something that happened on personal time. I'm so tired of people setting people up for their 5 minutes of fame. He clearly does this regularly. She and the dog were not bothering anyone. Both handled it badly but he set her up.

You could say she set him up by walking her dog off leash in the first place.

Nobody set anybody up. This guy is a middle aged science editor who was out birdwatching. Bird people and dog people are always at odds - if she was walking a dog off leash in an area with a lot of bird watchers, she knew (or should have known) that she'd be called out by one of them. What seems unexpected to her is that the bird watcher was black.

The treat thing is weird. And I'd sure as fck be upset if someone randomly gave my dog a treat. But I wouldn't call the police and say an African American man was threatening my life over it. And I sure as hll wouldn't let myself be filmed calling the cops on a guy in this situation, using that language, knowing what could happen out of it.

She was walking her dog off-leash in an areas SPECIFICALLY barring dogs being off-leash. It is a conservation area and well known. She was just acting like an entitled person who can simply disregard whatever rules she wants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:White women have to continue to learn the hard way. Men might still rule the world, but white women are by far the most entitled.

- another white woman

Snort.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He set her up, he treated her by taking the dog via treats and calling it over. She didn't deserve to be fired for something that happened on personal time. I'm so tired of people setting people up for their 5 minutes of fame. He clearly does this regularly. She and the dog were not bothering anyone. Both handled it badly but he set her up.

You could say she set him up by walking her dog off leash in the first place.

Nobody set anybody up. This guy is a middle aged science editor who was out birdwatching. Bird people and dog people are always at odds - if she was walking a dog off leash in an area with a lot of bird watchers, she knew (or should have known) that she'd be called out by one of them. What seems unexpected to her is that the bird watcher was black.

The treat thing is weird. And I'd sure as fck be upset if someone randomly gave my dog a treat. But I wouldn't call the police and say an African American man was threatening my life over it. And I sure as hll wouldn't let myself be filmed calling the cops on a guy in this situation, using that language, knowing what could happen out of it.

There are a few people on this thread who carry treats. It's not weird and the only way a stranger could effectively give your dog a treat is if he was off leash. I don't think this applies to you.

By his own account, he used threatening language when giving the dog the treat. That would scare the bejeezus out of me. I've read enough stories of dogs poisoned by crazy neighbors and strangers that I take that seriously.

That's the only part of his side of the story that gives me pause. Obviously she is a racist lunatic who was hurting her dog in addition to putting the bird watcher's life in danger with her insane 911 call.

That's a big part of why you keep your dog on a leash. To keep your dog safe too. Responsible dog owners know this.

It would have been easy for the dog to pick up a bone that someone had thrown in the bushes, or a rat that had been poisoned and climbed into the bushes to die. She obviously is fine with taking chances on her dog eating things that can kill him. She's also fine with choking the animal herself. Why would she be scared of a dog treat?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Franklin Templeton has just announced Cooper's been fired from her job. The company said, "Following our internal review of the incident in Central Park [Monday], we have made the decision to terminate the employee involved, effective immediately." The investment firm doubled down ... "We do not tolerate racism of any kind at Franklin Templeton."

Wow! So twitter harassment works.