Whistleblower complaint released

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wonder what else the whistleblower got wrong.

Christina Ruffini
@EenaRuffini
Scoop: Senior Govt Official tells
@CBSNews
Counselor to the State Department Ulrich Brechbuhl was NOT on the
@POTUS
call with #Zelensky, as the whistle blower complaint states.

LOL. Probably a lot more.

I have also read that the call should have been stored on a secured server - totally opposite of what the whistleblower was told and claimed.
The President’s call with Zelenskyy contained references to both POTUS’s and the Ukrainian President’s opinions on multiple European countries and leaders, especially Germany/France and Merkel/Macron, as well as sanctions policy towards Russia.
That’s why when originally classified the transcript was set at the SECRET, Original Classification Authority (ORCON), No Foreign Distribution (NOFORN) level.

Yes, it should have been on a secure system -- the regular system available to the intelligence community for sharing stuff that at the secret and even top secret level. Instead they put it on a codeword access only system available to almost nobody, the kind of system where info about black ops and the names of assets is found.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“The White House acknowledged Friday that administration officials directed a now-infamous Ukraine call transcript be filed in a highly classified system.”
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/09/27/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-transcript-white-house/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

It's nice they're not obstructing, for a change.

No one actually admitted it. Just "a senior White House official".

They put out official statements anonymously all the time. It’s really weird.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“The White House acknowledged Friday that administration officials directed a now-infamous Ukraine call transcript be filed in a highly classified system.”
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/09/27/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-transcript-white-house/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

It's nice they're not obstructing, for a change.

No one actually admitted it. Just "a senior White House official".

AKA likely a NSC staffer who doesn't want to go down with the ship.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“The White House acknowledged Friday that administration officials directed a now-infamous Ukraine call transcript be filed in a highly classified system.”
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/09/27/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-transcript-white-house/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

It's nice they're not obstructing, for a change.

No one actually admitted it. Just "a senior White House official".

They put out official statements anonymously all the time. It’s really weird.

It's not weird, it's normal. But posters laugh at "anonymous sources" at WaPo and NYT, they don't realize how normal that is.

[Anonymous]

#freethewhistleblowersname

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wonder what else the whistleblower got wrong.

Christina Ruffini
@EenaRuffini
Scoop: Senior Govt Official tells
@CBSNews
Counselor to the State Department Ulrich Brechbuhl was NOT on the
@POTUS
call with #Zelensky, as the whistle blower complaint states.

LOL. Probably a lot more.

I have also read that the call should have been stored on a secured server - totally opposite of what the whistleblower was told and claimed.
The President’s call with Zelenskyy contained references to both POTUS’s and the Ukrainian President’s opinions on multiple European countries and leaders, especially Germany/France and Merkel/Macron, as well as sanctions policy towards Russia.
That’s why when originally classified the transcript was set at the SECRET, Original Classification Authority (ORCON), No Foreign Distribution (NOFORN) level.

Yes, it should have been on a secure system -- the regular system available to the intelligence community for sharing stuff that at the secret and even top secret level. Instead they put it on a codeword access only system available to almost nobody, the kind of system where info about black ops and the names of assets is found.

Right. There's a difference between a secure system and what the whistleblower is talking about.

PP, I take it you're not very experienced in handling this sort of information.

Also, NOFORN = no foreign national, which means a foreign government can't access it
ORCON = originator control, basically. it means the originator of the document has to approve any changes in dissemination. it doesn't mean original classification authority, which is a whole different thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://t.co/IeG2JuDW8D?amp=1

It is devastating. I'm sure that the regular trolls will respond that Trump did nothing wrong or whatever talking points the White House comes up with next, but it's hard to believe that people really believe that. Maybe you're just saying that because it's what your side is saying. Maybe you're brainwashed by Fox News. Maybe you're posting from a Russian troll farm and laughing with your buddies about it later. Maybe you're just saying it to get people mad. Whatever it is, you're not saying it because you've looked at these documents, thought about them, and come to your best conclusion about what's best for our country.

I'm OP. I'm responding to my own post because 34 pages later everything I predicted has come true. Go ahead and keep regurgitating the talking points from Fox News, or go them one better and come up with some more even less rational arguments like those on this thread. The fact is that you don't really believe it. You couldn't have read this complaint and thought about it and still conclude that the problem here is Biden or the democrats. Shame on you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wonder what else the whistleblower got wrong.

Christina Ruffini
@EenaRuffini
Scoop: Senior Govt Official tells
@CBSNews
Counselor to the State Department Ulrich Brechbuhl was NOT on the
@POTUS
call with #Zelensky, as the whistle blower complaint states.

LOL. Probably a lot more.

I have also read that the call should have been stored on a secured server - totally opposite of what the whistleblower was told and claimed.
The President’s call with Zelenskyy contained references to both POTUS’s and the Ukrainian President’s opinions on multiple European countries and leaders, especially Germany/France and Merkel/Macron, as well as sanctions policy towards Russia.
That’s why when originally classified the transcript was set at the SECRET, Original Classification Authority (ORCON), No Foreign Distribution (NOFORN) level.

Yes, it should have been on a secure system -- the regular system available to the intelligence community for sharing stuff that at the secret and even top secret level. Instead they put it on a codeword access only system available to almost nobody, the kind of system where info about black ops and the names of assets is found.

Where does it state this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“The White House acknowledged Friday that administration officials directed a now-infamous Ukraine call transcript be filed in a highly classified system.”
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/09/27/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-transcript-white-house/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

It's nice they're not obstructing, for a change.

No one actually admitted it. Just "a senior White House official".

They put out official statements anonymously all the time. It’s really weird.

It's not weird, it's normal. But posters laugh at "anonymous sources" at WaPo and NYT, they don't realize how normal that is.

Responding to questions from a reporter anonymously is normal. Putting out an official statement is not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://t.co/IeG2JuDW8D?amp=1

It is devastating. I'm sure that the regular trolls will respond that Trump did nothing wrong or whatever talking points the White House comes up with next, but it's hard to believe that people really believe that. Maybe you're just saying that because it's what your side is saying. Maybe you're brainwashed by Fox News. Maybe you're posting from a Russian troll farm and laughing with your buddies about it later. Maybe you're just saying it to get people mad. Whatever it is, you're not saying it because you've looked at these documents, thought about them, and come to your best conclusion about what's best for our country.

I'm OP. I'm responding to my own post because 34 pages later everything I predicted has come true. Go ahead and keep regurgitating the talking points from Fox News, or go them one better and come up with some more even less rational arguments like those on this thread. The fact is that you don't really believe it. You couldn't have read this complaint and thought about it and still conclude that the problem here is Biden or the democrats. Shame on you.

Ironically, Shep Smith and Chris Wallace are having this very debate on Fox right now, at the expense of the rest of the supplicants on the network.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wonder what else the whistleblower got wrong.

Christina Ruffini
@EenaRuffini
Scoop: Senior Govt Official tells
@CBSNews
Counselor to the State Department Ulrich Brechbuhl was NOT on the
@POTUS
call with #Zelensky, as the whistle blower complaint states.

LOL. Probably a lot more.

I have also read that the call should have been stored on a secured server - totally opposite of what the whistleblower was told and claimed.
The President’s call with Zelenskyy contained references to both POTUS’s and the Ukrainian President’s opinions on multiple European countries and leaders, especially Germany/France and Merkel/Macron, as well as sanctions policy towards Russia.
That’s why when originally classified the transcript was set at the SECRET, Original Classification Authority (ORCON), No Foreign Distribution (NOFORN) level.

Yes, it should have been on a secure system -- the regular system available to the intelligence community for sharing stuff that at the secret and even top secret level. Instead they put it on a codeword access only system available to almost nobody, the kind of system where info about black ops and the names of assets is found.

Where does it state this.

In the whistleblower complaint.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wonder what else the whistleblower got wrong.

Christina Ruffini
@EenaRuffini
Scoop: Senior Govt Official tells
@CBSNews
Counselor to the State Department Ulrich Brechbuhl was NOT on the
@POTUS
call with #Zelensky, as the whistle blower complaint states.

LOL. Probably a lot more.

I have also read that the call should have been stored on a secured server - totally opposite of what the whistleblower was told and claimed.
The President’s call with Zelenskyy contained references to both POTUS’s and the Ukrainian President’s opinions on multiple European countries and leaders, especially Germany/France and Merkel/Macron, as well as sanctions policy towards Russia.
That’s why when originally classified the transcript was set at the SECRET, Original Classification Authority (ORCON), No Foreign Distribution (NOFORN) level.

Yes, it should have been on a secure system -- the regular system available to the intelligence community for sharing stuff that at the secret and even top secret level. Instead they put it on a codeword access only system available to almost nobody, the kind of system where info about black ops and the names of assets is found.

Where does it state this.

In the whistleblower complaint.

Specifically bottom of page 3-top of page 4 in OP’s link.

[Anonymous]

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The informant did not file himself. That was my first suspicious moment. Something so devastating and the person doesn’t report it? Then it turned into ‘a pattern of behavior reported by many’. And that was the tell.

Except they filed twice. Only when the first filing was turned over to the White House did the complaint then go through the whistleblower protocol.

There was no initial filing from any individual who directly heard the phone call.

[Anonymous]

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If Nancy Pelosi or Adam Schiff had taken the time to look at the criteria for complaints, they would understand why this was not passed on.
This complaint should not have ever made it to Congress based on these criteria.

They know this already. That's why they haven't made a vote. All of this is political posturing for 20/20 in coordination with the media.

No, it's because you haven't bothered to read 9 pages. Two of those are an addendum, so you only need to read 7 pages.

SMH

Actually, I have. Carefully written by a lawyer.

Then how can you claim that it doesn't meet the criteria for a whistleblower complaint? It does.

Besides having the ICIG say so, we can read it ourselves and see that it does.

The informant did not file himself. That was my first suspicious moment. Something so devastating and the person doesn’t report it? Then it turned into ‘a pattern of behavior reported by many’. And that was the tell.

Informant? A whistleblower isn't a spy.

You sound very confused.

+1. PP, here’s Chris Wallace: "...it is a serious allegation... the whistleblower lays out a blueprint for talking to various officials in the White House... and to dismiss this... seems to me to be an effort by the president's defenders to try to make nothing out of something and there is something here."

Ever notice how y'all always refer to the same papers and people?

[Anonymous]

Not being "on" the call means something different than hearing the call. As far as we know, only Zelinskyy and Trump were "on" the call but there were others who were listening on both sides.