Whistleblower complaint released

[Anonymous]

Why do you think it matters? What if the WB is another presidential candidate? Does that conflict somehow change Trump’s own admissions regarding the call, and the views of many other national leaders of both parties who say the call and surrounding circumstances are completely inappropriate?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Regarding the call transcript:
Reports are that the leaker confirmed in a memo to himself the day after the phone call with Ukraine, that the transcript of the call memorializes the call and that it is not a summary. The transcript ended up completely destroying the narrative the leaker put forth.

Regarding the changing of the documents:

In tense testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) on Friday, the inspector general for federal spy agencies refused to disclose why his office backdated secret changes to key whistleblower forms and rules in the wake of an anti-Trump whistleblower complaint filed in August, sources told The Federalist.

As The Federalist reported and the Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) confirmed, the spy watchdog secretly changed its whistleblower forms and internal rules in September to eliminate a requirement that whistleblowers provide first-hand evidence to support any allegations of wrongdoing. In a press release last week, the ICIG confessed that it changed its rules in response to an anti-Trump complaint filed on August 12. That complaint, which was declassified and released by President Donald Trump in September, was based entirely on second-hand information, much of which was shown to be false following the declassification and release of a telephone conversation between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/10/07/intel-community-ig-stonewalling-congress-on-backdated-whistleblower-rule-changes/

The whistleblower did not complete a section of the form indicating he went to Schiff's office first. And, the ICIG was unaware of this detail. He was also unable to explain the 18 day window between the Ukraine calll and filing the complaint:

The embattled ICIG also admitted on Friday that the anti-Trump complainant lied on his whistleblower complaint form by concealing the complainant’s previous secret interactions with House Democratic staff prior to submitting the complaint. Atkinson never even bothered investigating potential coordination between the complainant, whom DOJ said showed evidence of partisan political bias, and House Democrats prior to the filing of the anti-Trump complaint.

So?

Makes the whistleblower appear to be a partisan with a grudge. Especially since we now know he had a "working relationship" with a prominent Democratic politician.
As a result, his motives are in question. .

We just aren't that dumb. Move along.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Regarding the call transcript:
Reports are that the leaker confirmed in a memo to himself the day after the phone call with Ukraine, that the transcript of the call memorializes the call and that it is not a summary. The transcript ended up completely destroying the narrative the leaker put forth.

Regarding the changing of the documents:

In tense testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) on Friday, the inspector general for federal spy agencies refused to disclose why his office backdated secret changes to key whistleblower forms and rules in the wake of an anti-Trump whistleblower complaint filed in August, sources told The Federalist.

As The Federalist reported and the Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) confirmed, the spy watchdog secretly changed its whistleblower forms and internal rules in September to eliminate a requirement that whistleblowers provide first-hand evidence to support any allegations of wrongdoing. In a press release last week, the ICIG confessed that it changed its rules in response to an anti-Trump complaint filed on August 12. That complaint, which was declassified and released by President Donald Trump in September, was based entirely on second-hand information, much of which was shown to be false following the declassification and release of a telephone conversation between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/10/07/intel-community-ig-stonewalling-congress-on-backdated-whistleblower-rule-changes/

The whistleblower did not complete a section of the form indicating he went to Schiff's office first. And, the ICIG was unaware of this detail. He was also unable to explain the 18 day window between the Ukraine calll and filing the complaint:

The embattled ICIG also admitted on Friday that the anti-Trump complainant lied on his whistleblower complaint form by concealing the complainant’s previous secret interactions with House Democratic staff prior to submitting the complaint. Atkinson never even bothered investigating potential coordination between the complainant, whom DOJ said showed evidence of partisan political bias, and House Democrats prior to the filing of the anti-Trump complaint.

So?

Makes the whistleblower appear to be a partisan with a grudge. Especially since we now know he had a "working relationship" with a prominent Democratic politician.
As a result, his motives are in question. .

Certainly

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Regarding the call transcript:
Reports are that the leaker confirmed in a memo to himself the day after the phone call with Ukraine, that the transcript of the call memorializes the call and that it is not a summary. The transcript ended up completely destroying the narrative the leaker put forth.

Regarding the changing of the documents:

In tense testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) on Friday, the inspector general for federal spy agencies refused to disclose why his office backdated secret changes to key whistleblower forms and rules in the wake of an anti-Trump whistleblower complaint filed in August, sources told The Federalist.

As The Federalist reported and the Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) confirmed, the spy watchdog secretly changed its whistleblower forms and internal rules in September to eliminate a requirement that whistleblowers provide first-hand evidence to support any allegations of wrongdoing. In a press release last week, the ICIG confessed that it changed its rules in response to an anti-Trump complaint filed on August 12. That complaint, which was declassified and released by President Donald Trump in September, was based entirely on second-hand information, much of which was shown to be false following the declassification and release of a telephone conversation between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/10/07/intel-community-ig-stonewalling-congress-on-backdated-whistleblower-rule-changes/

The whistleblower did not complete a section of the form indicating he went to Schiff's office first. And, the ICIG was unaware of this detail. He was also unable to explain the 18 day window between the Ukraine calll and filing the complaint:

The embattled ICIG also admitted on Friday that the anti-Trump complainant lied on his whistleblower complaint form by concealing the complainant’s previous secret interactions with House Democratic staff prior to submitting the complaint. Atkinson never even bothered investigating potential coordination between the complainant, whom DOJ said showed evidence of partisan political bias, and House Democrats prior to the filing of the anti-Trump complaint.

So?

Makes the whistleblower appear to be a partisan with a grudge. Especially since we now know he had a "working relationship" with a prominent Democratic politician.
As a result, his motives are in question. .

Certainly

So? Trump released the transcript. He and Rudy are balls deep in this. Their motives are in question, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do you think it matters? What if the WB is another presidential candidate? Does that conflict somehow change Trump’s own admissions regarding the call, and the views of many other national leaders of both parties who say the call and surrounding circumstances are completely inappropriate?

A Whistleblower complaint is secret for two reasons: (1) so the allegations can be preliminarily investigated to determine that they are credible, relevant, filed with the right agency, etc., and warrant a full investigation, (2) to not tip off the accused to prevent them from destroying evidence, intimidating witnesses, retaliating, etc. The whistleblower can choose to come forward but there is a seal on anyone else disclosing his/her identity. In this case, the allegations were investigated and verified by the IG talking to multiple witnesses and reviewing documents. At this point, it doesn’t matter who the Whistleblower is, the investigation is justified and follows the evidence.

[Anonymous]

The Trump White House has already admitted to the nuts and bolts of the facts disclosed by the whistleblower. What difference does it make at this point who they are or if they are ever made public?

[Anonymous]

Exclusive from Fox News: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/whistleblower-memo-trump-ukraine-call-white-house-crazy-frightening

"Immediately after learning secondhand information from a White House official about President Trump’s July 25 phone call with the president of Ukraine, the first whistleblower wrote a dramatic personal memo, saying the White House official characterized the call as “crazy” and “frightening,” Fox News has learned.

In contrast to a publicly released transcript of the July 25 phone call, the two-page memo used dramatic language. According to the memo, the White House official “described the (July 25th) call as ‘crazy,’ ‘frightening,’ and ‘completely lacking in substance related to national security.’”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Exclusive from Fox News: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/whistleblower-memo-trump-ukraine-call-white-house-crazy-frightening

"Immediately after learning secondhand information from a White House official about President Trump’s July 25 phone call with the president of Ukraine, the first whistleblower wrote a dramatic personal memo, saying the White House official characterized the call as “crazy” and “frightening,” Fox News has learned.

In contrast to a publicly released transcript of the July 25 phone call, the two-page memo used dramatic language. According to the memo, the White House official “described the (July 25th) call as ‘crazy,’ ‘frightening,’ and ‘completely lacking in substance related to national security.’”

And?

The call summary released by the white house confirm what the whistleblower reported. Rudy and Donald both admitted it on camera. The Volker texts also confirm it. It is quacking and waddling like a duck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Exclusive from Fox News: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/whistleblower-memo-trump-ukraine-call-white-house-crazy-frightening

"Immediately after learning secondhand information from a White House official about President Trump’s July 25 phone call with the president of Ukraine, the first whistleblower wrote a dramatic personal memo, saying the White House official characterized the call as “crazy” and “frightening,” Fox News has learned.

In contrast to a publicly released transcript of the July 25 phone call, the two-page memo used dramatic language. According to the memo, the White House official “described the (July 25th) call as ‘crazy,’ ‘frightening,’ and ‘completely lacking in substance related to national security.’”

Sounds right. Do you think that's inaccurate?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Exclusive from Fox News: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/whistleblower-memo-trump-ukraine-call-white-house-crazy-frightening

"Immediately after learning secondhand information from a White House official about President Trump’s July 25 phone call with the president of Ukraine, the first whistleblower wrote a dramatic personal memo, saying the White House official characterized the call as “crazy” and “frightening,” Fox News has learned.

In contrast to a publicly released transcript of the July 25 phone call, the two-page memo used dramatic language. According to the memo, the White House official “described the (July 25th) call as ‘crazy,’ ‘frightening,’ and ‘completely lacking in substance related to national security.’”

Sounds right. Do you think that's inaccurate?

I quoted it because I am mildly surprised to find this on the Fox News website. As an exclusive, no less.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Exclusive from Fox News: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/whistleblower-memo-trump-ukraine-call-white-house-crazy-frightening

"Immediately after learning secondhand information from a White House official about President Trump’s July 25 phone call with the president of Ukraine, the first whistleblower wrote a dramatic personal memo, saying the White House official characterized the call as “crazy” and “frightening,” Fox News has learned.

In contrast to a publicly released transcript of the July 25 phone call, the two-page memo used dramatic language. According to the memo, the White House official “described the (July 25th) call as ‘crazy,’ ‘frightening,’ and ‘completely lacking in substance related to national security.’”

Sounds right. Do you think that's inaccurate?

I quoted it because I am mildly surprised to find this on the Fox News website. As an exclusive, no less.

It makes sense, supports why the whistleblower would have been motivated to come forward about this particular call. I presume that Fox is presenting this as a gotcha (I didn't click on the link), but on reflection it supports the whistleblower.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Trump White House has already admitted to the nuts and bolts of the facts disclosed by the whistleblower. What difference does it make at this point who they are or if they are ever made public?

This! At this point the WB is amoot point (or should I say a moat point?)

W/ WH transcript, trump & Rudy blabber, and diplomats texts... we don’t even need the WB. It’s all there for us to see! Trump abused his power of the Presidency. He withheld aide to get dirt and god knows what else he did.

Also, keep and eye out for a call with MBS Re: Turkey & Syria. Trump definitely made some deal on that.
So. Much. Winning!