Why do staunch republicans hate electric vehicles?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Staunch Republican. No issues with electric vehicles, drive a hybrid myself.


Word. Just bought the Santa Fe 2024 hybrid.
Was skeptical bout how much benefit I would get, as I’m on the highway a lot. But averaging almost 35 mpg. Not gonna lie that it’s a bit sluggish, but apparently the regular gas Santa Fe is also not a particularly peppy ride. It’s a V6 with turbo, and that’s not my favorite.
But it’s a smooth ride. Drives nice.


Teslas are smoking fast. So the sluggish ones shouldn't be taken as normal for electric. I'm a Republican and only drive Teslas.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because charging stations are about a billion dollars apiece to build. So still no infrastructure to support them. Never will be one.

They are virtue signaling devices for people with home charging stations that use them to go go grocery shopping.



What in the...? Charging stations do not cost a billion dollars. And there are hundreds if not thousands of them. We only own electric cars and regularly do long (14+ hour) trips in them.


$7.5B government program to establish 500,000 charging stations has turned out 9 so far. So math is pretty accurate at this point. Probably just working the kinks out. So cost per unit will drop sooner or later.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Staunch Republican. No issues with electric vehicles, drive a hybrid myself.


Word. Just bought the Santa Fe 2024 hybrid.
Was skeptical bout how much benefit I would get, as I’m on the highway a lot. But averaging almost 35 mpg. Not gonna lie that it’s a bit sluggish, but apparently the regular gas Santa Fe is also not a particularly peppy ride. It’s a V6 with turbo, and that’s not my favorite.
But it’s a smooth ride. Drives nice.


Teslas are smoking fast. So the sluggish ones shouldn't be taken as normal for electric. I'm a Republican and only drive Teslas.

I don’t doubt your Tesla would smoke my hybrid mom-mobile. Nothing about me is moving fast these days 😂
Anonymous
Spend an extra 20000 to save $1000 a year in gas. And Virginia makes you pay extra for registration.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Spend an extra 20000 to save $1000 a year in gas. And Virginia makes you pay extra for registration.


Your numbers are about 10 years out of date. EVs are close to price parity now— or cheaper based on KBB 5 yr TCO and will only get cheaper relative to ICE.
Anonymous
EV’s are pushed to control movement. Leftists want all of us centralized to cities for easier control. Freedom of movement is a problem.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Spend an extra 20000 to save $1000 a year in gas. And Virginia makes you pay extra for registration.


Your numbers are about 10 years out of date. EVs are close to price parity now— or cheaper based on KBB 5 yr TCO and will only get cheaper relative to ICE.


This. The EV prices have really come down. That's why you are seeing so many more on the road.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:EV’s are pushed to control movement. Leftists want all of us centralized to cities for easier control. Freedom of movement is a problem.


I’m driving almost 600 miles on one tank with hybrid. Never felt so free!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Spend an extra 20000 to save $1000 a year in gas. And Virginia makes you pay extra for registration.


Your numbers are about 10 years out of date. EVs are close to price parity now— or cheaper based on KBB 5 yr TCO and will only get cheaper relative to ICE.


5 year TCO is something, but what happens in years 6-8 when a battery needs to be replaced? The average ICE vehicle is around 12 years old in the US, and you rarely see an electric that old. Will current electrics still be tooling around in 2036, or will they be scrap? If scrap, how is that good for the environment or people's wallets?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because charging stations are about a billion dollars apiece to build. So still no infrastructure to support them. Never will be one.

They are virtue signaling devices for people with home charging stations that use them to go go grocery shopping.



What in the...? Charging stations do not cost a billion dollars. And there are hundreds if not thousands of them. We only own electric cars and regularly do long (14+ hour) trips in them.


$7.5B government program to establish 500,000 charging stations has turned out 9 so far. So math is pretty accurate at this point. Probably just working the kinks out. So cost per unit will drop sooner or later.


There are over 6000 tesla superchargers. There are over 40k tesla destination chargers. There is simply no way that 46 trillion dollars have been spent on tesla charging stations. It may be true that the government has spent a billion per charger, but a private sector company doesn't spend that much.
Anonymous
Because there are so many sensors on board, one minor accident can total an EV. It's why auto insurance rates are skyrocketing; because there are so many of them in the insured pool.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because charging stations are about a billion dollars apiece to build. So still no infrastructure to support them. Never will be one.

They are virtue signaling devices for people with home charging stations that use them to go go grocery shopping.



What in the...? Charging stations do not cost a billion dollars. And there are hundreds if not thousands of them. We only own electric cars and regularly do long (14+ hour) trips in them.


$7.5B government program to establish 500,000 charging stations has turned out 9 so far. So math is pretty accurate at this point. Probably just working the kinks out. So cost per unit will drop sooner or later.


There are over 6000 tesla superchargers. There are over 40k tesla destination chargers. There is simply no way that 46 trillion dollars have been spent on tesla charging stations. It may be true that the government has spent a billion per charger, but a private sector company doesn't spend that much.


How the hell do you get to 46 Trillion? Math isn't your strong suit, huh?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Spend an extra 20000 to save $1000 a year in gas. And Virginia makes you pay extra for registration.


Your numbers are about 10 years out of date. EVs are close to price parity now— or cheaper based on KBB 5 yr TCO and will only get cheaper relative to ICE.


5 year TCO is something, but what happens in years 6-8 when a battery needs to be replaced? The average ICE vehicle is around 12 years old in the US, and you rarely see an electric that old. Will current electrics still be tooling around in 2036, or will they be scrap? If scrap, how is that good for the environment or people's wallets?


With Hyundai’s 10 year warranty the battery is covered, so that should buy me another one for free. By the time battery 2 dies, technology will have advanced so much I’ll want a new car anyway.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Spend an extra 20000 to save $1000 a year in gas. And Virginia makes you pay extra for registration.


Your numbers are about 10 years out of date. EVs are close to price parity now— or cheaper based on KBB 5 yr TCO and will only get cheaper relative to ICE.


5 year TCO is something, but what happens in years 6-8 when a battery needs to be replaced? The average ICE vehicle is around 12 years old in the US, and you rarely see an electric that old. Will current electrics still be tooling around in 2036, or will they be scrap? If scrap, how is that good for the environment or people's wallets?


With Hyundai’s 10 year warranty the battery is covered, so that should buy me another one for free. By the time battery 2 dies, technology will have advanced so much I’ll want a new car anyway.


Dp- I think that’s only if you purchase bumper to bumper. I don’t think their 10 year drive train warranty covers the battery, does it?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Spend an extra 20000 to save $1000 a year in gas. And Virginia makes you pay extra for registration.


Your numbers are about 10 years out of date. EVs are close to price parity now— or cheaper based on KBB 5 yr TCO and will only get cheaper relative to ICE.


5 year TCO is something, but what happens in years 6-8 when a battery needs to be replaced? The average ICE vehicle is around 12 years old in the US, and you rarely see an electric that old. Will current electrics still be tooling around in 2036, or will they be scrap? If scrap, how is that good for the environment or people's wallets?


lol that does not happen because the batteries last 15-20 years. The question you should be concerned about is what happens when your ICE comes off warranty in 5 years?
While lead-acid car batteries last about 3 to 5 years, EV battery pack lifespan is much longer. Typically, today’s EV batteries last 10 – 20 years. Many car manufacturers offer an 8 to 10-year or 100,000-mile warranty on electric car batteries, which can help ease consumer concerns about battery longevity.

https://www.greenlancer.com/post/how-long-do-ev-batteries-last#:~:text=In%20contrast%2C%20EV%20lithium%2Dion,number%20of%20years%20or%20miles.


This has been covered before in this thread. So why do you keep on with the wrong information?
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