Loud ATV drivers at night? City government? Police?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So it looks like you’ve demonstrated exactly what I’m saying:

# of people annoyed: a lot

# of people outaged/angry: a handful

Lots of other bigger and more important quality of life issues for most people, particularly violent crime.

That's right! We can only fix one issue at a time. We need to figure out which one is the most important. Come back in two years.

I dont understand what you’re saying. An atmosphere of lawlessness and blatant disregard for others’ safety leads to violent crime. Did you see the shooting at tysons— in the mall yesterday? Our civilization is coming undone at the seams. Militias rolling through my neighborhoods were not what i expected to see when I supported liberal Democrats, which is what Ive always considered myself. Turns out, Im much more moderate. Im concerned about noise and violent crime and all of my neighbors. And yes, the lives of children and the elderly matter more to me than young men who dgaf and blaze through our neighborhoods popping wheelies and car jacking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So it looks like you’ve demonstrated exactly what I’m saying:

# of people annoyed: a lot

# of people outaged/angry: a handful

Lots of other bigger and more important quality of life issues for most people, particularly violent crime.

That's right! We can only fix one issue at a time. We need to figure out which one is the most important. Come back in two years.

I dont understand what you’re saying. An atmosphere of lawlessness and blatant disregard for others’ safety leads to violent crime. Did you see the shooting at tysons— in the mall yesterday? Our civilization is coming undone at the seams. Militias rolling through my neighborhoods were not what i expected to see when I supported liberal Democrats, which is what Ive always considered myself. Turns out, Im much more moderate. Im concerned about noise and violent crime and all of my neighbors. And yes, the lives of children and the elderly matter more to me than young men who dgaf and blaze through our neighborhoods popping wheelies and car jacking.

Counterpoint: our civilization is not coming apart

[Anonymous]

As with any “issue” on DCUM, there is always only one highly animated poster who had lost their mind and you can easily identify that person here.

[Anonymous]

That’s NOT true. No idea who PP you’re responding to is, but I’m just one of the people “highly animated” by an easy to solve matter that is a detriment to normal life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the real issue. And I could care less if the 12 apostles were riding them. They do not belong in the residential areas. Children are affected the most. Low income families are affected disproportionately because of where they live and where the ATV activity occurs.

“Loud ATV exhaust noise has become an issue both medically and environmentally. The threshold of permanent hearing damage, as set by the OSHA, is 85 dB. A gas-powered lawn mower produces 85 dB. The snowmobile industry cannot, under U.S. law, exceed 78 dBs at full throttle, and since 1979 motorcycle manufacturers must stay between 78 and 84 dB. However, most ATVs are between 85 and 100 dBs, which has led to concerns by both riders and non-riders about excessive noise.” – How to Quiet ATV Exhaust Noise (A Practical Guide)
How does one reduce the noise to 65 decibels at the property line? The answer is distance, but how much distance? Here’s a guideline:
“Doubling the distance between the highway and residence will result in a noise level reduction of approximately 4.5 decibels, depending on the surface composition over which the noise is traveling.”
So, at 50 feet from the property line, 95 decibels becomes 91. At 100 feet, it is 87. At 200 feet, it is 84 – at the threshold for permanent hearing damage.

That IS the issue.

+1 we live in Shaw and have for nearly 20 years. Two kids. This must stop. Period. It is insanity and it literally helps no one. The men on the bikes may lose their lives or their limbs. The people who live in these neighborhoods like us are losing sleep, sanity, and a sense of security in our own homes. The noise us house shaking and ear shattering. Add to that the terrible throbbing bass with no music — just the bass like your eardrums are about to burst. If i were religious, Id pray for this madness to end. If i were rich, Id move.

Amen. Get it together, DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So it looks like you’ve demonstrated exactly what I’m saying:

# of people annoyed: a lot

# of people outaged/angry: a handful

Lots of other bigger and more important quality of life issues for most people, particularly violent crime.

That's right! We can only fix one issue at a time. We need to figure out which one is the most important. Come back in two years.

I dont understand what you’re saying. An atmosphere of lawlessness and blatant disregard for others’ safety leads to violent crime. Did you see the shooting at tysons— in the mall yesterday? Our civilization is coming undone at the seams. Militias rolling through my neighborhoods were not what i expected to see when I supported liberal Democrats, which is what Ive always considered myself. Turns out, Im much more moderate. Im concerned about noise and violent crime and all of my neighbors. And yes, the lives of children and the elderly matter more to me than young men who dgaf and blaze through our neighborhoods popping wheelies and car jacking.

Agree

[Anonymous]

Is Metro DC politics excluded from ranking for the Hottest Topics Last 30 Days on dcum? Fine if it is, but worth pointing out to the naysayers that ATVs are firmly ranked on that list by the stats, so that’s saying something about this not being a fringe issue at all

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So it looks like you’ve demonstrated exactly what I’m saying:

# of people annoyed: a lot

# of people outaged/angry: a handful

Lots of other bigger and more important quality of life issues for most people, particularly violent crime.

That's right! We can only fix one issue at a time. We need to figure out which one is the most important. Come back in two years.

I dont understand what you’re saying. An atmosphere of lawlessness and blatant disregard for others’ safety leads to violent crime. Did you see the shooting at tysons— in the mall yesterday? Our civilization is coming undone at the seams. Militias rolling through my neighborhoods were not what i expected to see when I supported liberal Democrats, which is what Ive always considered myself. Turns out, Im much more moderate. Im concerned about noise and violent crime and all of my neighbors. And yes, the lives of children and the elderly matter more to me than young men who dgaf and blaze through our neighborhoods popping wheelies and car jacking.

A family man shot at Scott Circle for his wallet died yesterday after being shot on Memorial Weekend.

[Anonymous]

They do not belong in the residential areas. Children are affected the most. Low income families are affected disproportionately because of where they live and where the ATV activity occurs.

“Loud ATV exhaust noise has become an issue both medically and environmentally. The threshold of permanent hearing damage, as set by the OSHA, is 85 dB. A gas-powered lawn mower produces 85 dB. The snowmobile industry cannot, under U.S. law, exceed 78 dBs at full throttle, and since 1979 motorcycle manufacturers must stay between 78 and 84 dB. However, most ATVs are between 85 and 100 dBs, which has led to concerns by both riders and non-riders about excessive noise.” – How to Quiet ATV Exhaust Noise (A Practical Guide)
How does one reduce the noise to 65 decibels at the property line? The answer is distance, but how much distance? Here’s a guideline:
“Doubling the distance between the highway and residence will result in a noise level reduction of approximately 4.5 decibels, depending on the surface composition over which the noise is traveling.”
So, at 50 feet from the property line, 95 decibels becomes 91. At 100 feet, it is 87. At 200 feet, it is 84 – at the threshold for permanent hearing damage.

That IS the issue.


+1 we live in Shaw and have for nearly 20 years. Two kids. This must stop. Period. It is insanity and it literally helps no one. The men on the bikes may lose their lives or their limbs. The people who live in these neighborhoods like us are losing sleep, sanity, and a sense of security in our own homes. The noise us house shaking and ear shattering. Add to that the terrible throbbing bass with no music — just the bass like your eardrums are about to burst. If i were religious, Id pray for this madness to end. If i were rich, Id move.

Worth repeating over and over again until the DC government hears us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So it looks like you’ve demonstrated exactly what I’m saying:

# of people annoyed: a lot

# of people outaged/angry: a handful

Lots of other bigger and more important quality of life issues for most people, particularly violent crime.

That's right! We can only fix one issue at a time. We need to figure out which one is the most important. Come back in two years.

I dont understand what you’re saying. An atmosphere of lawlessness and blatant disregard for others’ safety leads to violent crime. Did you see the shooting at tysons— in the mall yesterday? Our civilization is coming undone at the seams. Militias rolling through my neighborhoods were not what i expected to see when I supported liberal Democrats, which is what Ive always considered myself. Turns out, Im much more moderate. Im concerned about noise and violent crime and all of my neighbors. And yes, the lives of children and the elderly matter more to me than young men who dgaf and blaze through our neighborhoods popping wheelies and car jacking.

Sorry, there are bigger issues. Like abortion rights. We can only focus on one problem at a time. When we decide what is the most important problem, we will work on it. /s

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So it looks like you’ve demonstrated exactly what I’m saying:

# of people annoyed: a lot

# of people outaged/angry: a handful

Lots of other bigger and more important quality of life issues for most people, particularly violent crime.

That's right! We can only fix one issue at a time. We need to figure out which one is the most important. Come back in two years.

I dont understand what you’re saying. An atmosphere of lawlessness and blatant disregard for others’ safety leads to violent crime. Did you see the shooting at tysons— in the mall yesterday? Our civilization is coming undone at the seams. Militias rolling through my neighborhoods were not what i expected to see when I supported liberal Democrats, which is what Ive always considered myself. Turns out, Im much more moderate. Im concerned about noise and violent crime and all of my neighbors. And yes, the lives of children and the elderly matter more to me than young men who dgaf and blaze through our neighborhoods popping wheelies and car jacking.

Who said that? Is that in the Constitution? A government that can only focus on one issue at the time is not capable of governing. In that case let’s give up the Home Rule.

Sorry, there are bigger issues. Like abortion rights. We can only focus on one problem at a time. When we decide what is the most important problem, we will work on it. /s

[Anonymous]

Who said that? Is that in the Constitution? A government that can only focus on one issue at the time is not capable of governing. In that case let’s give up the Home Rule.

[Anonymous]

Abortion rights are NOT an issue in DC? We protected them. What are you talking about?! You are mixing things up.

As long as you are mixing federal and local, perhaps you are also advocating for a federal intervention? No ATVs when the guard was on the streets after the attempted coup.

[Anonymous]

It’s time to address the ATVs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who said that? Is that in the Constitution? A government that can only focus on one issue at the time is not capable of governing. In that case let’s give up the Home Rule.

Earlier in the thread...

So it looks like you’ve demonstrated exactly what I’m saying:

# of people annoyed: a lot

# of people outaged/angry: a handful

Lots of other bigger and more important quality of life issues for most people, particularly violent crime.

Your issues with ATVs have been declared unimportant. Time to move on.