Loud ATV drivers at night? City government? Police?
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Anonymous
Yeah? Because I’m Salah? I don’t vote in Ward 1. I don’t work on his campaign. I don’t even like him. But if I would vote for him now, yes. And you can than our MD friends for that I won’t post from tomorrow because I’m starting to pack up the house. Applause to the MD lawnmower brigades for that too |
Anonymous
| Serious question: do people in black neighborhoods not mind this? The NY Times documentary linked previously showed people on the streets clapping. Do people in Anacostia etc actually want this? |
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I think people affected but not benefiting are just people. I don’t know if that’s a serious question, and I hope it’s not trying to devolve this issue into identity politics and never move any closer to the solution. You can go on Twitter and news and see that’s not the driver (despite, what, looks like to me, mostly white and woke people want you to believe). The discussions in Ward 1 are absurd when they get to that level for example (and it’s 60% white).
It’s not a question if but where to ride. To me it’s clear that riding through the traffic and where people reside must stop. |
Anonymous
| I say seize their ATVs and put them in jail. Would they put up with that in Singapore? |
Anonymous
Maybe you should make some friends with some Black people? It’s about half the city, so it shouldn’t be too hard. |
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You’ve posted this same thing all over other threads too. Come on.
Is this Nadeau camp posting stupid questions and stupid answers trying to make it look like a racially charged discussion. I’d bet on that, because this went on for a good month without devolving into this kind of alternative universe. To the PP1, post the video. Probably people who like the trucks applauding the tricks. To the PP2, stop trying to distract and trivialize the problem into a conflict. To both of you, cool it. |
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This is the real issue. And I could care less if the 12 apostles were riding them. They do not belong in the residential areas. Children are affected the most. Low income families are affected disproportionately because of where they live and where the ATV activity occurs.
“Loud ATV exhaust noise has become an issue both medically and environmentally. The threshold of permanent hearing damage, as set by the OSHA, is 85 dB. A gas-powered lawn mower produces 85 dB. The snowmobile industry cannot, under U.S. law, exceed 78 dBs at full throttle, and since 1979 motorcycle manufacturers must stay between 78 and 84 dB. However, most ATVs are between 85 and 100 dBs, which has led to concerns by both riders and non-riders about excessive noise.” – How to Quiet ATV Exhaust Noise (A Practical Guide) How does one reduce the noise to 65 decibels at the property line? The answer is distance, but how much distance? Here’s a guideline: “Doubling the distance between the highway and residence will result in a noise level reduction of approximately 4.5 decibels, depending on the surface composition over which the noise is traveling.” So, at 50 feet from the property line, 95 decibels becomes 91. At 100 feet, it is 87. At 200 feet, it is 84 – at the threshold for permanent hearing damage. That IS the issue. |
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The sales of ATVs are growing 30% yony. Whither the air pollution and climate change impact? It’s pretty atrocious, but the noise is by far the worst. As well as danger to life and limb
motorized amusements require a fairly staggering 2.2 billion gallons of gasoline, with jet skis and pleasure boats combined accounting for 1.4 billion gallons; ATVs 594 million gallons; snowmobiles 188.5 million gallons; and dirt bikes 87 million gallons. All these fabulous toys soak up 1.6 percent of the outrageous 143 billion gallons we consume in the United States annually overall. But because a number of these devices use dirty two-cycle engines instead of the four-cycle engines in cars, their share of total pollution is vastly higher than their 1.6 percent share of gasoline consumption. |
Anonymous
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Completely unsustainable.
Any government that cares about the residents would make sure there’s no riding in DC, unless it’s in an industrial area away from people and wildlife. |
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An Increase in Violence Caused by ATV Riders Raises Concern in DC
A recent shooting involving unidentified suspects riding ATVs that left a man seriously injured has brought up both new and old concerns about ATV crime in D.C. “There’s not to be any person driving an ATV or dirt bike in the District of Columbia. We were frustrated by the fact that that crime was allowed to continue.” News4’s Darcy Spencer reports on the issue. https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/an-increase-in-violence-caused-by-atv-riders-raises-concern-in-dc/3079404/ |
Anonymous
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So it looks like you’ve demonstrated exactly what I’m saying:
# of people annoyed: a lot # of people outaged/angry: a handful Lots of other bigger and more important quality of life issues for most people, particularly violent crime. |
Anonymous
Ahem. “Singapore is widely regarded as one of the safest countries in the world, with consistently low crime rates, a transparent legal system, and a reliable police force supported by proactive citizens.“ -straight from the SG govt website, and it’s true |
Anonymous
That's right! We can only fix one issue at a time. We need to figure out which one is the most important. Come back in two years. |
Anonymous
+1 we live in Shaw and have for nearly 20 years. Two kids. This must stop. Period. It is insanity and it literally helps no one. The men on the bikes may lose their lives or their limbs. The people who live in these neighborhoods like us are losing sleep, sanity, and a sense of security in our own homes. The noise us house shaking and ear shattering. Add to that the terrible throbbing bass with no music — just the bass like your eardrums are about to burst. If i were religious, Id pray for this madness to end. If i were rich, Id move. |