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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If life begins at delivery, why do we have to kill the baby to complete an abortion? You kill what is living. The baby is killed during abortion. The baby is alive; life has begun. [/quote]

I don't understand what you are trying to say but a fetus is not viable outside the womb so it really isn't a separate entity from the host, more like parasite.[/quote]

First, the fetus is the same type of organism as the mother. Parasites are different organisms which latch on to another species, causing it harm.

Second, parasites are not where they belong, but the preborn child is precisely where it is supposed to be. The natural changes that take place in the woman’s body to make room for this new little human do not damage her body. Although there may be challenges in being pregnant, they are in no way legitimately comparable to the damage and harm a parasite does to another organism.

Fetal stem cells are known to travel to sites of damage or injury in the mother, and mothers with a weakened heart, for example, get fetal stem cells which travel to their hearts and turn into cardiac cells, helping strengthen the mother’s heart.

In contrast, the parasitic latching on to another organism does not help the host and there is no mutual sharing of benefits.

Who taught you a baby in utero was “parasitic?” Because they were wrong. [/quote]
I don't know. My mom is a neonatologist (i.e. she's devoted her entire career to treating premature newborns). When talking about maternal health, she refers to fetuses as "highly effective parasites".[/quote]

A parasite is an organism of one species that lives in or on an organism of another species and receives nourishment from the host.
Parasites are invasive organism that come from an outside or external source. A fetus comes from an inside or internal source (ie fertilized egg)
Parasites are generally harmful to the hosts, fetuses may make a pregnant woman experience adverse health effects, but not nearly to the same level that a parasite generally does.
A parasite makes direct contact with the host's living tissues. A fetus lives in the placenta, fed by the umbilical cord, both of which are fetal tissue (ie the cells come from the baby).
When a parasite invades a host, the host tissue will usually respond by encapsulating the parasite in order to cut it off from other surrounding tissue. In the case of a fetus, the mother’s tissue will create a lining tissue that connects, rather than cuts off contact with other tissues (placenta lining).
Parasites usually elicit a surge of antibodies as an immunological response. With the fetus, however, a mother’s trophoblast (the shell of cells surrounding the embryo) will naturally block these antibodies so as not to reject the fetus. This reaction is only found in the embryo-mother relationship.
A parasite will generally weaken the cellular reproductive capacity of the host.For a fetus, the effect is the opposite.
Parasites generally stay with the host for life, a fetus leaves upon birth.
Parasitical relationships are mostly harmful and unnecessary to the host, generally damaging the host in a variety of ways. A newborn (fetus post-birth) is very healthy for the mother, bringing benefits of an emotional, cognitive and chemical nature.
The most obvious one, a fetus is a human being in development. It will never become anything other than human. Even a first trimester fetus will have fully developed arms, legs, ears, facial features, sex organs and a functioning heart, as well as sufficient neurological development to feel pain. A parasite is not a human and never will be.

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You’re not really good at metaphors are you? [/quote]
PP with the neonatologist mom. I'm starting to think this poster is some kind of NLP model barfing out responses. I've seen a demo of GPT-3 producing this kind of nonsense live. It's impressive from that perspective.[/quote]

Can you refute the facts? [/quote]

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